News of the world is closing
Sunday will be it's last edition, looks like internet bullying works.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:40, 156 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

really?
good work, sir. Daily Mail, next?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:41, Reply)

James Murdoch is doing an announcement now!

(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:42, Reply)

I want to believe this
but sadly I can't.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:42, Reply)

we can do anything if we try!
come on, internet - let's fuck 'em up!
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:44, Reply)

it does start to look true
Wow, if only the Mail were next
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:46, Reply)

they treated someone I work with like shit
sending emotionally blackmailing letters to get them to talk to them when they just wanted to be left alone. If I didn't hate them already, that was evidence enough
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:47, Reply)

reading it once was enough
scary shit
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:00, Reply)

why do people think the internet had anything to do with this?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:49, Reply)

to be honest
probably wishful thinking. I expect it did have an effect, though, mainly because it allows people to communicate their crossness quicker.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:52, Reply)

i think the internet has become such a part of our media and communication
network that, perhaps, everything is affected by it. Maybe this is the point we can no longer dissociate 'The Internet' from culture in general
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:54, Reply)

for the purposes of this
I'm disassociating things like actual online media (valid news sites and such) from "the internet" because what people really mean in this case when they say "the internet" is "facebook and twitter"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:00, Reply)

I'm not sure about that.
What it does is allows massive over-reaction to the slightest thing and allows any fuckwit with a keyboard the ability to rail against everything and anything.

In this case, NotW would have been under just us much pressure without the internet, becuase they have done something geneuinely awful.

You might have a point about the speed things can happen though, I concede.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:58, Reply)

I agree with over-reactions and shit
I think the speed of communication also makes it harder to spin things in a controlled manner (or even tell the truth once a lie has got out) - not impossible, by any means, but you'd have to be quick and lucky. I suspect this won't be true in a couple of years as people catch up with the new model of communication.

I'd like to think you're right about NOTW getting fucked up either way, though. I can't see how anyone thought it might be an OK thing to do
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:08, Reply)

The Daily Mail is the best paper in the world.

(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:50, Reply)

Nope
Can't see any evidence here.
(888777555, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:42, Reply)

www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-live-coverage
(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:43, Reply)

Is true. Breaking news on BBC news.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:43, Reply)

hardly fucking matters as long as Rebekah Wade is still breathing.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:43, Reply)

also, I suspect it has approximately the square root of fuck all to do with the internet.
or any other fat handed sweatys.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:44, Reply)

I think the tweets directed at advertisers had a hand in them backing out.
I think the constant facebook groups and hundreds of comments on news stories gave the non NI papers enough motivation to keep the story going.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:50, Reply)

I disagree
I mean, you're right about internet allowing an outlet for outrage, but this would have happened exactly the same without it, because it is actually outrageous.

the problem with the internet is it mobilises retarded people to be outraged about utterly meaningless, often untrue things. Sensible people can manage outrage without faceache and twitter.

And do you honestly think companies like Ford give the tiniest little shit about what people tweet at them? really?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:55, Reply)

Of course they do,
the people who deal with those tweets sit right in the head office walking distance from the heads of communications. If they get 400 tweets in an hour saying they should stop doing something then they wander over and tell them.
Then they make a calculation does stopping these adverts give us better publicity than not stopping them.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:06, Reply)

what, you've been to Ford's corporate comms department and you know this?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:07, Reply)

I know how that works with this stuff.
To say they don't care about "Ford bastards" or whatever trending on twitter is naive, they'll do an awful lot to stop that.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:11, Reply)

I suspect in a corporate world
obsessed with image and trying to get hard data on corporate image, twitter trending is probably seen as a handy (and importantly, free) way to judge the mood of the consumer. Whether it is or isn't
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:16, Reply)

Apple might give a shit about "twitter trending"
Nokia might. Orange might. high throughput relatively low cost consumables.

People who spend £15K upwards on new cars, in general, do not base their choices on nor, frankly, could they give a fuck about twitter trending. IMO.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:20, Reply)

Depends why "ford bastards" was being trended. and they'd only do anything if the effort was worth it
and since only the tiniest fraction of ford's customer base gives the tinest shit about what is trending on twitter, I'd suggest that "an awful lot" is a massive stretch.

however, I concede I might have over-generalised, since I was replying to your suggestion that Ford would take notice of people tweeting them to stop advertising in NotW. They didn't and they wouldn't. They may, I concede, take notice of a protracted campaign against them in any form of media, but that's hardly what happened, is it?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:18, Reply)

How much does Ford spend in advertising and PR each year? Let's round this figure at a complete and utter guess, a conservative £10m....
.... What's the objective of that investment? To sale products and attract investors*. Shit goes down the pipes so that nobody will uninvest or un-buy a car because they're advertising with a questionable distribution methord, and nobody is going to think "I'm going to pick a different car" because of it.... However, some people who are sitting on the fence when it comes to investing something _might_ move over to their side over this.

I think that makes sense, they've turned a potentially negative PR event into a fantastic one. People are talking about Ford because they did pull out, where as if they didn't (and in time) they would have been just one of a long list of advertisers.

* Yes, it's to get their name out there, but that is pointless if you can't convert that to finacials.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:38, Reply)

totally agree.
the point I'm making is that it had fuck all to do with facebook campaigns or twitter trending. Ford just thought it up by themselves, but more importantly, pulled out first. That's what got them the press. If you like, they created the twitter trend.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:40, Reply)

But Social Networking is a big impact on advertising these days, huuge, one could say more so than TV/Print depending on the company involved.
It creates a feedback that was impossible before it. I think most big companies would be mad not to employee an expert in that field, it's as essenchall now as an SEO expert.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:56, Reply)

Yep, and all the people who work there get the sack
while she deflects all the criticism.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:45, Reply)

I hope she she has savings cus she is now unemployable.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:49, Reply)

of course she isn't.
She'll be editor of another rag within a year.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:56, Reply)

Or she'll get a seat in the house of Lords

( Boss Keloid Got your mother's maiden name tattooed on my arm, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:56, Reply)

and a unicorn and a scalextric
and a years supply of chocolate
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:58, Reply)

I'd also offer you the point
that she's got away with worse and kept her job before.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:59, Reply)

seriously?
what the hell is wrong with people?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:12, Reply)

She asked a gay MP why wasn't he on Clapham common as it was dark.
And assulted her husband.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:16, Reply)

when are apple bringing out the iweep?
I need it to keep up
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:18, Reply)

far worse
she published names and addresses of convicted sex offenders after they had served time and were released from prison. She may well have been directly responsible for people's deaths over that.

Oh, and the assult thing? She was in the middle of massive campagin against domestic violence that she personally was spearheading as editor of the Sun. Oh, the hypocrisy.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:23, Reply)

You'll be suprised how often people like this get new jobs.
They've got enough friends in high places.
Don't you think there are a bunch of companies that really want Murdoch to owe them a favour?
(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:57, Reply)

she's rather chummy with Dave Cameron.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:01, Reply)

He's madea massive error getting mixed up with her and Coulson

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:04, Reply)

Plenty of other shit rags to take up the banner

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:43, Reply)

News International will simply relaunch it in any event

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:44, Reply)

OMG ITS TRUE!
BBC NEWS CHANNEL!!
(888777555, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:44, Reply)

I have to ask...
If the NOTW was still supporting Labour, or even If it had been the Sunday Mirror, would the Guardian and BBC have come out so strongly against them?
(888777555, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:46, Reply)

I think, considering what they were doing
yes they would
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:48, Reply)

I'm surprised Murdoch didn't sell.
Without 'News International' I'm sure the advertisers would have flocked back.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:47, Reply)

It was a loss maker.
It wouldn't have sold for much.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:50, Reply)

I'm amazed it was a loss maker.
I thought it was the biggest selling newspaper in the UK.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:52, Reply)

Biggest selling tabloid,
but only once a week.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:54, Reply)

They just said on Talksport that it was the most popular paper in the world?
that can't be right can it?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:54, Reply)

i weep for humanity

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:55, Reply)

iweep? new apple gadget?

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:57, Reply)

makes cultural grief both simple and trendy

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:09, Reply)

Gotta think outside the uk... It's the only British tabloid you can get in north Cyprus, lots of expats throughout the world...
... And although none of them would choose it in the uk, they get a taste of home over there.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:02, Reply)

It probably is
because it's a sunday, so it sells more than dailies, there isn't a sunday sun (because that's what the NotW is effectively), which is the best selling daily, and I suspect that the sundays have more of a market amongst expats as well.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:02, Reply)

and because I think we're quite unique as a culture (well, maybe translates to Europe too)
in having such a high proportion of newspaper readers.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:03, Reply)

I don't think the Sun et al count as newspapers

( rofl harris, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:22, Reply)

technically, I'm afraid they do.
Then again, Rebekah Wade apparently counts as human, so who knows?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:24, Reply)

So... Sunday Sun anyone?

(888777555, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:49, Reply)

More to do with Murdoch
wanting to disassociate himself from bad publicity than the internet.

NOTW is a fucking shitty rag, anyway.
( Kroney, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:50, Reply)

How else will I find out if Steve McFadden has pissed himself again?

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:52, Reply)

The 'Fake Sheikh' will have to do something else now as well.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:53, Reply)

:(
Gosh darn look what twitters gone and dun now
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:58, Reply)

Hang on.
Does this mean that 'Captain Cash' won't be sending me twenty quid for some worthy cause I invented?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:50, Reply)

Now let's stop the BSkyB take over out of this.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:53, Reply)

But it's like the politicians crowing over the other side's improprieties
when they know damn well they've been at it too, just not been caught. If this is standard practice, it doesn't matter which paper is pilloried. If they're all at it, closing one paper won't make a difference.

And all the people who were responsible for commissioning the hacking are the ones who should be paying, not the ones who work in typesetting, distribution, advertising &c who are now also out of a job.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:54, Reply)

I Imagine they'll be employed by the Sunday Sun...

(888777555, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:55, Reply)

It's a bit shit for a lot of the clerical and background staff though.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:56, Reply)

I agree.

(888777555, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:57, Reply)

I would put you on ignore but half the thread would disappear.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:57, Reply)

I was thinking that, I hope they get redundancies.
Plus that is a lot of jobs that no longer exist in one go, all thanks to management.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:58, Reply)

I would imagine lots would be rehomed quite easily but still some poor sod is going to lose out.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:59, Reply)

They employee 1000s of people in their head office alone.... probably.
Plus all the people they hire for one-off things.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:19, Reply)

News international is just trying to draw a line under this
maybe because the most explosive revelations are yet to be revealed.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:57, Reply)

Full statement
"I have important things to say about the News of the World and the steps we are taking to address the very serious problems that have occurred.
It is only right that you as colleagues at News International are first to hear what I have to say and that you hear it directly from me. So thank you very much for coming here and listening.
You do not need to be told that The News of the World is 168 years old. That it is read by more people than any other English language newspaper. That it has enjoyed support from Britain's largest advertisers. And that it has a proud history of fighting crime, exposing wrong-doing and regularly setting the news agenda for the nation.
When I tell people why I am proud to be part of News Corporation, I say that our commitment to journalism and a free press is one of the things that sets us apart. Your work is a credit to this.
The good things the News of the World does, however, have been sullied by behaviour that was wrong. Indeed, if recent allegations are true, it was inhuman and has no place in our Company.
The News of the World is in the business of holding others to account. But it failed when it came to itself.
In 2006, the police focused their investigations on two men. Both went to jail. But the News of the World and News International failed to get to the bottom of repeated wrongdoing that occurred without conscience or legitimate purpose.
Wrongdoers turned a good newsroom bad and this was not fully understood or adequately pursued.
As a result, the News of the World and News International wrongly maintained that these issues were confined to one reporter. We now have voluntarily given evidence to the police that I believe will prove that this was untrue and those who acted wrongly will have to face the consequences.
This was not the only fault.
The paper made statements to Parliament without being in the full possession of the facts. This was wrong.
The Company paid out-of-court settlements approved by me. I now know that I did not have a complete picture when I did so. This was wrong and is a matter of serious regret.
Currently, there are two major and ongoing police investigations. We are cooperating fully and actively with both. You know that it was News International who voluntarily brought evidence that led to opening Operation Weeting and Operation Elveden. This full cooperation will continue until the Police's work is done.
We have also admitted liability in civil cases. Already, we have settled a number of prominent cases and set up a Compensation Scheme, with cases to be adjudicated by former High Court judge Sir Charles Gray. Apologising and making amends is the right thing to do.
Inside the Company, we set up a Management and Standards Committee that is working on these issues and that has hired Olswang to examine past failings and recommend systems and practices that over time should become standards for the industry. We have committed to publishing Olswang's terms of reference and eventual recommendations in a way that is open and transparent. We have welcomed broad public inquiries into press standards and police practices and will cooperate with them fully.
So, just as I acknowledge we have made mistakes, I hope you and everyone inside and outside the Company will acknowledge that we are doing our utmost to fix them, atone for them, and make sure they never happen again.
Having consulted senior colleagues, I have decided that we must take further decisive action with respect to the paper.
This Sunday will be the last issue of the News of the World.
Colin Myler will edit the final edition of the paper.
In addition, I have decided that all of the News of the World's revenue this weekend will go to good causes.
While we may never be able to make up for distress that has been caused, the right thing to do is for every penny of the circulation revenue we receive this weekend to go to organisations – many of whom are long-term friends and partners – that improve life in Britain and are devoted to treating others with dignity.
We will run no commercial advertisements this weekend. Any advertising space in this last edition will be donated to causes and charities that wish to expose their good works to our millions of readers.
These are strong measures. They are made humbly and out of respect. I am convinced they are the right thing to do.
Many of you, if not the vast majority of you, are either new to the Company or have had no connection to the News of the World during the years when egregious behaviour occurred.
I can understand how unfair these decisions may feel. Particularly, for colleagues who will leave the Company. Of course, we will communicate next steps in detail and begin appropriate consultations.
You may see these changes as a price loyal staff at the News of the World are paying for the transgressions of others. So please hear me when I say that your good work is a credit to journalism. I do not want the legitimacy of what you do to be compromised by acts of others. I want all journalism at News International to be beyond reproach. I insist that this organisation lives up to the standard of behaviour we expect of others. And, finally, I want you all to know that it is critical that the integrity of every journalist who has played fairly is restored.
Thank you for listening.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 16:58, Reply)

I'd like to think that this might be a new dawn for the tabloid pressa nd the way they generally conduct themsleves
and the kind of stories that they print. But i doubt it.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:01, Reply)

They'll just be more careful to cover their tracks.

( Kroney, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:07, Reply)

Not just that per se
I'd like to see the entire focus of the red tops change, but it won't
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:11, Reply)

I'm sure the Mirror and the rest were at it.
NOTW are just taking the shit for it. The Mail is a far worse rag, absolutely appalling.
(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:11, Reply)

could the newsof the world still be sued or will it be news international?

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:13, Reply)

I think the main thing is I can hear every footballer in the country celebrating this news.
About eight million of them are going to cheat on their wives this weekend now there's no one to hold them to account.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:13, Reply)

That won't happen at the Cottage Barry.
Imagine turning up to work and having the holy effigy that is MJ sitting/standing/moonwalking in judgement.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:16, Reply)

Now let's look into all the other rags into the vile practices they put through.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:17, Reply)

Agreed.

(888777555, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:20, Reply)

They'll be none left

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:20, Reply)

If only you could put into law "Don't be a prick"

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:23, Reply)

Don't say that!
Nakers here would be locked up within hours of that legislation being passed.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:28, Reply)

"What's that knocking at the door?"

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:34, Reply)

Is it a monster?

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:38, Reply)

Let's start on the Reader's Digest Prize Draw
'Mr Tom Champagne', If indeed that is your real name &c...
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:21, Reply)

I am unashamedly looking forward to the last Harry Potter Movie
what are you fuckers looking forward to?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:20, Reply)

same

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:21, Reply)

I thinkI I'll watch in 2d though
as they tend to be quite darkly lit anyway
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:22, Reply)

3d is crap, only 38% of people opted to see POTC4 in 3d.
hopefully it's fucking off again.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:28, Reply)

I still haven't seen Half Blood Prince yet
and it's been sitting on my desk for nearly two months.

I can't see things at the cinema any more, because of the whole crippling arthritis issue.

/please feel sorry for me blog
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:23, Reply)

*there there*

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:25, Reply)

Oh b3th, I've tried to watch it too, and DHp1, but I keep on falling asleep.
I just found it dull and borring, probably because I wasn't in the right mood.

If only there was a way of maybe me and you and lusty and roota and berk and SirSandGoblin to all watch it together at the same time in the same place.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:25, Reply)

What happened with that girl on OK Cupid?
You were getting on well, the last I heard.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:43, Reply)

No such luck, she's not interested I think, donno, not much interaction on her part.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:49, Reply)

The girl's a fool to herself, Gonz.
She's the one missing out. Doesn't she know what a top gent you are?
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:51, Reply)

I guess not ! Not many do, I'm afraid.
Maybe women are scared to love me because they're scared of true happiness ?
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:57, Reply)

That must be what it is.
Or they're afraid they're not good enough for you. No-one likes to be the munter in a relationship.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:59, Reply)

I don't believe in leagues when it comes to this sort of thing.
Sure, I might be better looking, more funny, better at cooking, better at saying the right thing at the right time, more generous, more kind, more inherantly loveable and just generally a better human being.... than her, but she has tits and a fanny.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 18:01, Reply)

Sounds like you've got a multiplex condition.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:25, Reply)

want me to burn you a copy?

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:28, Reply)

Of which one?
The only ones I'm missing are the last two - it you have them, I'd love a copy.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:34, Reply)

I've not seen the last one yet
I'd like to, but chances of me getting round to it are minimal and I've still not got my head around going to the pictures on my own.

I'm looking forward to SUMMER! Greenman! visiting friends in Edinburgh! larping!
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:24, Reply)

the cinema is surely one of the most sensible things to do by yourself...
like watching telly
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:25, Reply)

and flashing at kids in a local park.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:27, Reply)

I suppose
but I find it odd to justify spending the money on myself. Also, what if I bump into a student and they are like "ha ha! she's totally going to the cinema on her own"? eh? answer me that.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:27, Reply)

cunt punch them

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:28, Reply)

good answer

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:30, Reply)

Speaking as someone who is married to a serial 'during the film talker'
I was quite happy to to the cinema on my own.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:37, Reply)

how the fuck?!
it must be love, talking during films gets me all stabby.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:38, Reply)

anyone talks after the trailers
there's gonna be trouble
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:39, Reply)

"Who's that?"
"Where did she come from?"
"Is that the guy that did that thing half an hour ago?"
"What are they going to do next?"
"Is he the murderer?"
..
..
..
..
"Shut. The fuck. Up. I've seen exactly what you've seen. How do you expect me to know more than you do?"
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"There's no need to be nasty about it. I was only asking."
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:41, Reply)

my ex would wander in during a short news item
"oh what's happened?"

"shh"

"Zoz, what's going on?"

"sshhhh!"

*news item ends*

"what was that all about?"

"I ... don't ... know"
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:48, Reply)

It's a wonder I haven't killed him yet.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:50, Reply)

Feel your pain
Ex wife used to do this, do not miss it.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:51, Reply)

Surely none of you is so naive as to not see that all they will do is relaunch it with a new name?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:25, Reply)

have you read any of this thread?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:28, Reply)

No.
I saw your name and skipped to the end. As usual.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:40, Reply)

no, but let us wallow for a few seconds
in a good thing? please?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:28, Reply)

I have something(s) for you.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:29, Reply)

Oh yeah? Do tell.
I like things.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:41, Reply)

One is trivial and funny, the other is just quite cool. saw them both on the G road and had to get them.
total cost £6.99. You can have them at your bash.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:44, Reply)

The G road?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:47, Reply)

gloucester road

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:48, Reply)

You've got Monty a chicken bucket meal from the Talivan haven't you.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:49, Reply)

nah, chicken and lamb wrap from Rita's

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:50, Reply)

That's very kind of you.
Thank you.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:54, Reply)

If he has found a cheaper 'george the bear' outfit I won't be happy.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:58, Reply)

World of News Sunday Edition !

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:29, Reply)

The Day Today Sunday

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:31, Reply)

course they will.
but if you check the thread, I don't think anyone's being naive and thinking anything has really been achieved here.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:33, Reply)

webwhois.nic.uk/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=thesunonsunday.co.uk
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:33, Reply)

interesting
but that could equally be some random trying to stir up shit. But still, interesting.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:38, Reply)

even John Prescott knows that!

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:36, Reply)

If all of the NOTW readers go for the Mail on Sunday, It will have a circulation of about 5 million.
Making it as popular as the NOTW was 30 years ago, and twice as popular as it was this year.
It will be the western worlds most read paper by a country mile.
The Mail, and possibly Littlejohn and Peter Hitchens, will become THE VOICE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION ITSELF! :-O
(888777555, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:32, Reply)

Will this make the bag of papers you deliver heavier or lighter?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:33, Reply)

hahahaha
It will amke them 34% more racist
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:35, Reply)

I am totally buying a totem pole off ebay!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:42, Reply)

woah! how big?

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:42, Reply)

Captain. You've got it wrong. The correct question is...
Woo!-Woo!-Woo!-Woo! Big. How?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:48, Reply)

6ft 11 or another one is 2m.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:49, Reply)

wait a minute
you're not a larper...what are you going to do with it?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:55, Reply)

Dance around it naked and make the rain stop.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:56, Reply)

well it's worked here already

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:56, Reply)

stick it in the garden and feel fucking smug about it.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:58, Reply)

because you got one over on those
pesky red indians?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:59, Reply)

'cause I'm the coolest kid on the block

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 18:05, Reply)

I fucking wish I thought of this
webwhois.nic.uk/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=thesunonsunday.co.uk
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:43, Reply)

Gut-ted.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 17:57, Reply)