Well I never
www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8709920/Ecstasy-could-be-used-in-cancer-treatment.html
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:07, 130 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

I did, a couple of times.
It was pretty ace. Apparently proper pills are coming back on the market now. People who munch them are going to get a bit of a shock on the third or fourth come-up.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:08, Reply)

Don't say that : /

( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:09, Reply)

I had student friends a few years back that'd pop one every half-hour over the course of a night out.
They'll be flat on their back if they do that with the proper old-strength pills.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:18, Reply)

Too right.
The early ones I did lasted 5-6 hours and were £15-20 each. White Doves, red & black capsules etc. I had such a good time in those days.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:19, Reply)

Ahhh Dennis the menace
capsules, thems were the days
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:33, Reply)

Good God! Two was my limit for a whole night.
I think I had two and a half once and thought I was going to die. It was a nice way to go at the time.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:19, Reply)

*stays quiet*
( broadsword, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:20, Reply)

*sings*
You say it best when you say nothing at all.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:28, Reply)

Different ballgame -
those shit Dutch pills had about 40mg MDMA, or more likely MDEA or MDA (easier to make and cheaper I think) - about 3 or 4 were the same as a proper one.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:21, Reply)

I used to get the Swedish ones.
They had about 150mg IKEA /jeff
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:23, Reply)

You fucked up by failing to say you took MDF here.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:26, Reply)

Probably.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:26, Reply)

*joke falls flat (pack)*
I think I should LTI here.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:27, Reply)

I wish to god you would.
But then I'd miss you and would pine until you returned.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:28, Reply)

PINE LOLOL

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:30, Reply)

I'd like to get into this conversation but it's pub o'clock, laters taters

( broadsword, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:25, Reply)

See ya Broaders.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:26, Reply)

Someone I know makes them,
so the whole 'you don't know what's in them' thing is not a concern - I know to the milligram precisely what they consist of.

His last ones he coloured bright blue and had a star shape on the top.

Unfortunately they make me so miserable afterwards I'll never (or extremely rarely) go near MDMA again. 1991-3 (and a brief renaissance a few years later) did me right in. I must have eaten several hundred - not to mention the MDMA blotters and powder. Ugh - just thinking about the smell of it makes me feel really fucking sick.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:13, Reply)

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

( broadsword, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:14, Reply)

I am actually so that's not funny yeah?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:16, Reply)

I've done so few, I have never noticed a comedown.
I don't get horrible hangovers either. Feel free to hate me.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:19, Reply)

I loved the afterglow of taking them for a good couple of years.
I felt fucking excellent. Not any more -the price I pay is so high as to render the experience not worth it. Ah well.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:23, Reply)

I recently rediscovered
Crystal MDMA and found it a much smoother ride on the day after
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:37, Reply)

This is true

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:40, Reply)

internet validation
right there folks
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:42, Reply)

That's what my pal makes his pills from.
I saw a fucking great lump of it - repulsive.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:44, Reply)

Well stop him making the pills
and just neck some... it does however taste like a burning tramps arsehole
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:50, Reply)

I shall not.
Honestly I really retired from all that.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:26, Reply)

I hate you
I get hangovers for even sniffing methylphenidate nowadays :(
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:36, Reply)

/links is that way
*points*
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:08, Reply)

I've got cancer, where do I sign up for the free pills?

( broadsword, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:12, Reply)

You've not got cancer silly boy.
You've got teh cat aids.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:13, Reply)

Man, that's the 6th time in a month

( broadsword, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:13, Reply)

It's about 10 years off but still any new treamtment for cancer is a good thing.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:20, Reply)

I hope it works
but I assume that any element of fun will be removed from them
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:24, Reply)

I would assume so.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:25, Reply)

Curing cancer is not a fun thing Monty.
Why should people get better and enjoy themselves.

Bastards!
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:27, Reply)

Can't have those people dying of cancer having a good time in their
last few agonising weeks, can we?
( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:28, Reply)

Jesus would haz a sad.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:29, Reply)

All terminal patience should be prescribed MDs
not for medicinal purposes, but because they are fun.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:34, Reply)

Aldous Huxley took LSD on his deathbed.
What a brave chap. I don't think I'd have the nerve.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:41, Reply)

Mindpiss

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:45, Reply)

Nah, drug companies don't give a shit about side effects unless they're deadly
They'll make it as effective as possible and as cheap to produce as possible.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:34, Reply)

Daily Mail style repoting would see the end to the fun part
"You pay for patience to take Ecstasy"

"leah betts killer Ecstasy is being prescribed on the NHS to cancer suffers whne we reporte just last week that ectasy gives you cancer as does; broccoli, wine, owls, Pete Burns, gypsys and tinsel.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:39, Reply)

*Gurns self well*

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:34, Reply)

I dislike it when people write "xtc" instead of "ecstasy".
Cunts.
( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:34, Reply)

I dislike the way Merkins call it X

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:35, Reply)

I dislike all such yoof buzzwords

( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:38, Reply)

I dislike yoofs

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:39, Reply)

Town was absolutely bloody earlier.
Hordes of horrible oiks with their ill-behaved, screaming children. Scum.

And because they breed twice as fast as the rest of us, we're going to be completely overrun inside of 40 years.
( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:41, Reply)

You've seen Idiocracy then?

(Bazongaloid, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:42, Reply)

I haven't, but somebody has told me the premise.
It's on my list. I imagine it will make me grumpy.
( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:43, Reply)

Uxbridge?
What did you expect?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:42, Reply)

i clawed my way out of there almost 4 years ago now
i used to see kroney slouching around the town. can't believe he hasn't chewed his own way out yet - secretly he must love it!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:56, Reply)

I have reasons, I've been wanting to leave for ages.

( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:58, Reply)

the only reasons to stay
are the slabs of lasagne and amazing chips at martins bistro and the shockingly unbelievably good food at the shit-looking and sounding pop-i-andy's cafe in the ghastly pavilions.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:00, Reply)

I don't think that's there anymore.

( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:04, Reply)

I dislike bras
as they hamper my views of breasts.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:41, Reply)

How am I supposed to look hot without a sexy bra on?

( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:44, Reply)

^this
welded steel
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:49, Reply)

Bras can build a sense of anticipation very nicely
but really they're only ever the warm-up act.
( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:51, Reply)

To be honest I've never really met a guy who was into the whole sexy lingerie thing.
They usually want you naked asap.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:52, Reply)

i have to say i have met a few
usually they like the really fucking uncomfortable stuff though, the corsets and the stockings...

i am in LOVE with the m&s autograph tights range where they look like different types of sexy sexy stockings, but secretly they are just comfy old granny tights underneath.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:54, Reply)

I used to go throught tights like a fucking whirlwind when I had to wear them for work.
I hate the things.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:55, Reply)

they do make your legs look good though

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:56, Reply)

This is true
I love black tights
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:08, Reply)

the most flattering of all, i think
are the smoky carbon grey opaque ones - they make your legs look so slim and toned.

until you take them off, of course!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:09, Reply)

That's the trouble with most clothing though

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:15, Reply)

true
my sack really helps my appeal
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:17, Reply)

+ball

( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:19, Reply)

this is a very novel way of coming out

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:26, Reply)

That must be so hot, when you're peeling them off
and all the flesh is exploding and bounding out.
( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:17, Reply)

fuck off
my legs are my only skinny bit!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:17, Reply)

Doesn't the expansion of matter generally have cooling effect?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:18, Reply)

I imagine it's like that expanding foam
Comes out in a long, thin string, but leave it unrestrained for a short period and you can use it to fill wall cavities.
( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:21, Reply)

mrs al must thank god every single day

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:53, Reply)

I imagine she does
She's lucky enough to have me.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:04, Reply)

it's enough to make you believe in reincarnation isn't it?
she must have been hitler at least. or maybe albert fish?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:08, Reply)

If I were to be diagnosed with a terminal disease
I would like to work my way through a variety of MDs then spend my final days taking heroin. I may also follow Aldous Huxley's example of "LSD, 100 µg, intramuscular" to see me on my final journey.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:43, Reply)

But imagine if you freaked out about dying, that would really suck

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:43, Reply)

Never had a bad trip
Also 100µg is not a spectacularly high dose.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:44, Reply)

But you've never been teetering on the dark abyss of death before

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:45, Reply)

I've never encountered anything on LSD that wasn't uncontrollably funny either.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:47, Reply)

I was like that for years
but one night had a spectacularly bad time.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:48, Reply)

Is that micrograms?
I favour 450-500 but then I am silly. The old red dragons were perfect I thought.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:48, Reply)

It is.
Was usually purple oms, microdots or homemade tabs without pictures round here. The strongest I ever took was a Hoffer, purported to be similar to Dr Hoffman's experimental dose. That one was a bit scary, but then I lost all concept of, well anything really. Came down in a different city in the midst of an anti-BNP demo.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:55, Reply)

Hahaha
The strongest - but also nastiest - that I had were either Pink Floyd Wall ones or 'Nukes' - rainbow coloured with a white CND sign on. They were both pretty alarming and felt rather 'dirty'.

I've had some amazingly professional looking blotters, the best of which had MC Escher's unravelling heads pic on a sheet of about 100. Really well made.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:58, Reply)

I've also drank it neat out of the bottle once.
I do not endorse this reckless stupidity.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:58, Reply)

Oh my
Looong weekend, I bet.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:02, Reply)

I was coming down of a hit of DMT at the time.
We thought it would be 'funny'. For twelve or so hours it was. The trick is to drink yourself unconscious when it gets boring/irritating.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:04, Reply)

Ah the old "this is great fun, we should definitely do more"

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:09, Reply)

This is why more recently I prefer mushrooms
4-5 hours up, then slowly back down to a nice, if fuzzyish, world.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:05, Reply)

A lovely Scots B3tan sent me some fucking tip-top mushrooms a while back.
I took them when my brother and I went to see Hawkwind and we were annihilated. I was amazed at how visual they were. A wonderful night.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:10, Reply)

I haven't had any shrooms
since I took them for the first time with my old mates from school (got into them late) and ended up paranoid and then passed out in the garden and smacked my face on the floor.

Shame, because every other experience was one of pure unadulterated joy
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:15, Reply)

Can't win 'em all, old boy.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:38, Reply)

trudat
I blame my mate Ian.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 16:15, Reply)

And I was amazed
by how visual YOU were............
(Purpledoris I've got afeckin' job, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 16:49, Reply)

^this

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:12, Reply)

Innit. Too risky for me.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:45, Reply)

You'd have to be really at peace with dying
otherwise I imagine the experience would be utterly hellish.
( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:46, Reply)

Quite.
Eff that, yo.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:49, Reply)

For clarification
I include retirement/old age in with terminal disease.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:43, Reply)

I imagine dying to be one hell of a ride.
Why add more to the experience.
( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:46, Reply)

To be honest I am absolutely terrified of awareness at the point of death.
Despite all my big-man claims.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:49, Reply)

I think it just depends how you go.

( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:50, Reply)

Business Class

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:50, Reply)

*sneaks up*
*hits TUP over the back of the head with a lead pipe*

I hope this helps
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:50, Reply)

Thanks. Appreciate that, man.
*collapses*
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:56, Reply)

I read that as "big man-clams".
=/
( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:51, Reply)

Phwoar!

( girlinthehole, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:53, Reply)

he gets that a lot

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:58, Reply)

Thank you, The Great Sarcasmo.

( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:06, Reply)

i was going to do a strikethrough
and say "never". but you beat me to it.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:08, Reply)

Bit of a Freudian slip there...
You know, when you say one thing but do your mother...
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:54, Reply)

I know *I* do!

( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:57, Reply)

I'm on methadone at the moment, as a painkiller, 5mg twice a day. When I first got them, I had 10mg per evening, and the next day I had an audio hallucination.
Right, so I reckon they're pretty strong, but after looking around online, smack addicts have 100-130mg of the stuff. That's 13 times as strong as what I had. And that stuff is supposed to be really weak compaired to smack.

As someone who takes a lot of opiets (legit reasons), I can't imagine what Smack is like.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:57, Reply)

Nature's cruel trick
These things are no fun if you actually *need* to take them
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:01, Reply)

Try taking 13 times the amount

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:03, Reply)

not recommended
some wankers from my school killed and coma'd themselves on methadone.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:13, Reply)

Oh no, I deffo enjoy them, if anything, I enjoy them more, as they stop me from being in pain or anxious.
Almost like what it's like falling asleep on the couch infront of the telly; anyone can enjoy that. But those who go to the gym first (and therefore need to crash out more) would find it even more enjoyable.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:03, Reply)

What I don't enjoy is needing them, but them themselves, yup, I enjoy them.
Enjoy isn't the right word, 'using' I think might be better.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:04, Reply)

'need'

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:04, Reply)

Yah', that's right.
I seriously f'cking hate the fact that not a week goes buy where I don't see at least two doctors. My life is improved like a billion fold since I've started on the methadone; I'm no longer withdrawing 3 or 4 times a day, which I've been doing for the last 4 years.

Every weekend I've been anxous about running out early because I needed an extra dose in the middle of the night.... going to the out-of-hours doctors and ringing around all the phamacies to see who stocks them... begging and being distrort because it's a bank holiday weekend, I didn't realise, and the doctors is closed. Knowing I am an horrific wreck of a person, a shaddow of a person, with everything including time itself iratating me making me worst and worst until I can get that hit again. Franticly looking online to see if you can find somewhere that'll sale them, realising if you get cault, you can go to jail, or worst, that the tablets will be counterfit from india (or whatever) and be rat poison. Knowing that with every dose you take, it'll take more next time to do anything. That eventually you take so much that it has no effect at all, but you still take it, because you're in pain, because they've stopped working.

Morphine addiction is terrible. 4 years of this. 12 years of the same thing with Codine before that.

.... Today when I went to pick up my prescription, I even had left-over morphine tablets, as I felt I simply didn't need to take all my doses in the week. I haven't once felt anxious about taking them, I hardly think about them at all now. And when I do take the morphine, it is _soo_ much stronger.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:13, Reply)

S'funny, it sounds a lot more romantic when William Burroughs writes about it.
You have my sympathy, for all the good it will do you...
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:16, Reply)

Do not tell your doctor that you enjoy them
He will never prescribe them again.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:06, Reply)

See above, he knows I enjoy them, but I also need them.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:14, Reply)

It amuses me that while the boys are down here boasting about their MD experiences
The girls are up there ^ talking about tights.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:14, Reply)

I too had noticed this.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:18, Reply)

I am talking about tights with them.
I'm so metrosexual.
( Kroney, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:22, Reply)

Too obvious
metrosexual gay
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 19 Aug 2011, 15:23, Reply)