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So anyway, exciting as coat thread is...
It seems that Professor David Nutt can talk nothing but sense. I, for one, would like to hereby self-diagnose myself with a crippling depression that can only be cured by NHS 'shrooms.
www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jan/23/magic-mushrooms-psilocybin-depression-drug
Can anyone think of a better cure?

Alt: One for the fatties: best magic mushroom recipes.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:19, 173 replies, latest was 14 years ago)
why can't i access the guardian website on opera?
i tried yesterday too when i was searching for something and it just freezes
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:23, Reply)
Have you tried switching it off?

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:25, Reply)
Because opera is a bit crap on PCs
Very good on phones though.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:25, Reply)
oh right
i like it cos it saves my passwords and i just click the key
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:29, Reply)
CHrome will do this, without even needing to click the key

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:33, Reply)
i don't like chrome tho

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:35, Reply)
What about Firefox?

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:42, Reply)
the shit film with Clint Eastwood?

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:45, Reply)
All of Clint Eastwood's films are shit.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:46, Reply)
Unforgiven

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:47, Reply)
Kelly's Heroes

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:53, Reply)
Gran Torino

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:13, Reply)
*thinks in Russian*
*Google pornski*
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:46, Reply)
POTD

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:25, Reply)
Fuck off i've got an exam in a minute

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:25, Reply)
Roooooooooooooooooota!

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:26, Reply)
i'm tellin ya kid

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:26, Reply)
Just nice to see another lady on here today.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:27, Reply)
*looks round*
Nope, soz.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:28, Reply)
Hi Roots.
If I apologise will you stop ignoring me?
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:27, Reply)
Whatchu dun now Willis?

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:28, Reply)
I dunno what fuck he's on about, I haven't got him on ignore

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:28, Reply)
I have.
And you.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:29, Reply)
No need.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:29, Reply)
I can't even see what you're saying.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:36, Reply)
I know you've not got me on ignore.
but you do ignore me terribly /needy
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:31, Reply)
*ignores*

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:33, Reply)
*flounces*

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:34, Reply)
one of them ones with your legs in stirrups?

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:28, Reply)
nah they're a piece of cake.
Microsoft Access.
Don't laugh. Never used it before.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:29, Reply)
Good luck rootz

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:29, Reply)
Thanks Chomp

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:30, Reply)
*joke about disabled access*

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:30, Reply)
You're no help

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:30, Reply)
soz ...um, i hope you don't fail
and your good at the spreadsheets and data and that?
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:32, Reply)
that's the spirit

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:33, Reply)
Good luck
But who the hell uses Access these days? Apart from you, obviously.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:34, Reply)
i fucking don't
Some bird in work just said she does. Wevs.

see you peeps, trah
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:34, Reply)
My work still does, as the software for our card machines accepts it

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:38, Reply)
Nah! she's too much of a prude to let a strange man near her lady garden.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:31, Reply)
thats not what i heard

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:33, Reply)
ta quent, appreciate it

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:34, Reply)
BYE

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:35, Reply)
BYE

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:35, Reply)
baby, bye bye bye

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:36, Reply)
Hello!

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:48, Reply)
Considering the last time I had shrooms I laughed like a mad fool for hours on end, I can believe this.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:23, Reply)
I prescribe a course of 'shrooms for you right away

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:47, Reply)
I once mashed them in organic buffallo milk yoghurt at Glastonbury.
Most middle class trip EVAH.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:25, Reply)
Stonehenge meets Notting Hill.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:27, Reply)
I can't compete with that.
Although I did once put a load of resin in an Actimel. Wanted to see if they were still good bacteria once they were stoned.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:09, Reply)
There's some proper effeminate guys on offtopic.
Yeah, I saw that... miles away from a treatment but still good idea.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:26, Reply)
you don't say

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:36, Reply)
Never had 'shrooms, but expect they would go well with goat's cheese in a risotto.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:26, Reply)
While they do a great job
They taste vile, so would need strong flavours to mask the taste.
Goat's cheese might work, but I don't really like it.
Also you should be aware that psilocybin turns blue when it reacts with the air, so you might want to think about presentation.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:42, Reply)
Peppermint tea masks the taste.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:43, Reply)
Really?
'Cause I've found that peppermint tea (like all herbal teas), whilst smelling a bit like the herb, actually tastes like boiled water.
I always used to favour brewing them in strong coffee.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:46, Reply)
I had Khat once brewed up in tea.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:47, Reply)
Only ever chewed that,
had green teeth after. Lovely.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:49, Reply)
Dry them out , and preserve them in honey.
Alternatively, eat them raw whilst picking, along with mud, grass and cow shit, then fall down a bank, pissing yourself laughing and puking.
Fucking GREAT day!
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:28, Reply)
haha!

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:48, Reply)
David Nutt speaks a lot of sense a lot of the time
Just a shame that the government are fucking spacktards when it comes to how they've treated him.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:30, Reply)
If you get involved in politics you have to play the game.
If he didn't want to he shouldn't have taken them up on their offer.
It's srs bsns can't go running away crying if people aren't nice to you.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:33, Reply)
Bollocks.
If the main issue is that the game is broken then it is absolutely your responsibility as an advisor to point this out. Anything less is intellectual cowardice.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:36, Reply)
You're meant to bring that up in private not in the media.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:44, Reply)
he probably did, wasn't listened to so pitched for wider support

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:45, Reply)
Because ... ?
He was an expert advisor to a government that made a big deal about open government and evidence-based policy making. How dare he make public statements based upon his expertise. What a shit.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:46, Reply)
If I go to a meeting here and say "doing things that way will be a waste of money"
then don't persuade them enough to change their course, I shouldn't go crying to the papers.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:47, Reply)
You do come and bitch about it on here though

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:49, Reply)
Yeah but you cunts aren't in positions of power.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:51, Reply)
Again ... because ... ?
The decisions and decision-making processes of government should be transparent. If you don't agree with the way decisions are made then you have a responsibility to involve the fourth estate.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:51, Reply)
I'm with Dr Shambo here
I would argue that the man knows more about drugs & effects of them than Government, yet they ignore his research.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:41, Reply)
because they know the public wouldn't support anything that made them look "soft on drugs"
which i though was a problem after too many lines, but still.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:42, Reply)
I think that premise is not as true as it once was.
Think of all those stoners that would vote for pretty much anyone that promises to legalize drugs. When you're talking about 25% of 18-35 year olds having smoked weed in the last year, there's plenty of votes in that.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:46, Reply)
Yeah.
Stoned teenagers are famous for voting.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:47, Reply)
Maybe they would be if they had that sort of incentive.
I think the point that has been made for years that appearing "soft on drugs" is electoral suicide is no longer the "fact" that it used to be and that there will be both good and bad consequences from that sort of policy decision.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:50, Reply)
We just rejected a move towards proportional representation.
Under the current fptp system, the government is effectively chosen by a small and unrepresentative group of reactionary middle-englanders.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:52, Reply)

a small and unrepresentative group of reactionary middle-englanders The Daily Mail
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:57, Reply)
That's true if there isn't major swings in seats.
I think a controvertial policy like full reform of drug law could change things in previously safe seats.
And lets face it, it's a issue that nearly everyone has either been affected by or has an opinion on.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:58, Reply)
Can you give me some examples from the past fifty years where it hasn't been true?

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:59, Reply)
1997

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:02, Reply)
how was Blair's government not elected by a small and unrepresentative group of reactionary middle-englanders
again, exactly?
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:07, Reply)
Because it was a large group of reactionary middle-englanders

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:18, Reply)
It wasn't really, though, was it?

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:33, Reply)
I mean, the number that voted for him
was at least a factor of two smaller than the number who didn't.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:34, Reply)
See, what is happening here is you are each defining your own terms for 'large group of reactionary middle-Englanders'
Just thought I'd mention it...
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:37, Reply)
+ 2million votes from 1992
Torys got about 5 million less votes.
I don't think that change in voting behaviour could be called small.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:37, Reply)
I don't think you've quite got the point of this conversation.
I'm not for a second arguing there wasn't a huge swing. I'm just saying the government is still chosen by a relatively small group of middle-englanders regardless.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:47, Reply)
No need to be quite so patronising.
In 1997, 182 seats changed hands, nearly 28% of the total. That's not dissmissable as middle england deciding the parliment, that's over a quarter of MP's being chucked out.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:54, Reply)
It doesn't really work like that, though.
it requires a frightening small number of people to swing a close seat, so a very small number of people actually made a difference. You're right that there was a large swing in voters, but becuase of the system we use, the actual large swing in seats that made a difference was caused by a very small number of voters, relatively. I mean, you could probably work it out but I'd be astonished if the swing voters that changed seats added up to much more than half a million or so.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:00, Reply)
Surely every election can theoretically be won on one vote.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:08, Reply)
yes, but our system allows a government not wanted by the majority
to be placed in power by the actions of a minority.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:10, Reply)
Are you on crack?

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:27, Reply)
I am
*grins*
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:38, Reply)
I can't imagine either of the two major parties' loyalist supporters backing that sort of change though

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:54, Reply)
Just slip in "full independant review of UK drug policy, with binding recommendations to be put before parliment"
as part of the manifesto and I don't see a big problem with the majority of supporters.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:57, Reply)
Unless the papers get hold of it in which case it will be reported as:
'Tories want to feed your children and pets heroin on the NHS'
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:58, Reply)
You might have some objections to that word "binding" from anybody who has even the slightest clue about our constitution and parliament.
Apart from that ... yeah.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:58, Reply)
Well the word that follows it is recommendations
I was thinking more that every recommendation had to be discussed openly in the house or something.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:00, Reply)
So you've redefined the word "binding" then?
Good work, Humpty.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:27, Reply)
words mean different things depending on the other words around them.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:28, Reply)
Now would probably be a good point to take a deep breath and admit that you shouldn't have used the word "binding".

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:29, Reply)
But that might distract from all your effort from changing the point.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:38, Reply)
Except the polling station is in the opposite direction from the all night garage.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:48, Reply)
hahaha
they should make the voting slips all shiney
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:50, Reply)
This is true
However, public opinion should never influence the decisions government make. Especially not about something important, like drugs policies.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:46, Reply)
Why do you hate democracy AA, WHY!!

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:49, Reply)
I'm simply referring to the fact that 90% of the general public are fucking idiots who'd rather watch reality TV than pick up a book.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:50, Reply)
watch?
Be on?

Masturbate to?

Come on man, don't make us guess like this.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:52, Reply)
Fuck, edited.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:53, Reply)
Did we abandon representative democracy when I wasn't looking?

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:49, Reply)
Yes.
Most of us weren't paying attention though, so don't blame yourself.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:51, Reply)
Fucking heroin.
It's all rosey while you're fucked and then BAM! you wake up to autocracy.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:53, Reply)
They should put pictures of this on the packaging to scare people into not taking heroin

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:54, Reply)

autocracy Dundee.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:05, Reply)
As all Dundonians know
That is the time to take more heroin.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:07, Reply)
It's always time for more heroin in Dundee.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:09, Reply)
In Victorian times
Dundee cake contained at least an ounce of opium per pound.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:28, Reply)
Funny, because these days the exact same ratio can be applied to Dundonians themselves.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:31, Reply)
It's not so much the government as the general public

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 14:42, Reply)
86% pass in yo face

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:46, Reply)
\o/

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:47, Reply)
*swimming pool logo*

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:07, Reply)
Geek!

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:47, Reply)
I'm in shock Chomp

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:07, Reply)
Well done
Access is fuckin' cuntish
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:48, Reply)

cuntish shit
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:51, Reply)
That too.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:53, Reply)
Innit, but there was no need for them to make me learn SO MUCH shit for it.
The exam was pish compared to that book.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:07, Reply)
congrats
Now go write a database
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:50, Reply)
Oh aye yeah

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:06, Reply)
That more than one person can use at the same time
Hah!
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:41, Reply)
now you have more work to do
you mug
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:51, Reply)
er no i don't!
I'm totally leaving and just got some free qualifications for my CV
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:06, Reply)
woohoo!
it'll look good on your CV too!
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:12, Reply)
+wind

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:20, Reply)
now ere!

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:26, Reply)
I'm bored now, someone tell me their favourite Asian recipe
So far I can make, special fried rice, nasi goreng, red/green curry, prawn teryaki, spicy thai chicken soup
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:55, Reply)
No.36
with special sauce
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:58, Reply)
I once was having my filthy way with a Chinese lass
She asked if there was anything I'd like to do with her, to which I suggested a 69. She told me to fuck off, as there was no way she was cooking at that time of night.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:01, Reply)
Ah the oldies
Are the best
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:11, Reply)
I have a nice poverty noodle recipe
boil some noodles, drain them.
then fry a lot of garlic in a pan with chilli ground ginger salt and pepper, add honey a bit of tomato puree Soy sauce and Vingar and turn the heat up until it's bubbling, chuck the noodles stir until it's nearly burnt and eat.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 15:59, Reply)
Mix a gelling agent with petroleum.
Ignite.
Drop on civilian targets.
LOL most heartily.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:00, Reply)
ROFTTPYO
Rolling On Floor Trying To Put Yourself Out
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:14, Reply)
Haha

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:15, Reply)
Lion burgers, barbecued
oh you said Asian, not Aslan


lol
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:04, Reply)
that made me sad

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:08, Reply)
he was a cuntlion

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:12, Reply)
He was noble as fuck

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:27, Reply)
like fuck he was, he'd have still been rolling around narnia licking his arse at every opportunity
and liam neeson was the wrong voice him an all
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:28, Reply)
i'm not on about liam neeson.
I'm on about ASLAN the fucking lion, BBC version if you have to
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:31, Reply)
i liked the books and the one i saw when i was a kid
neeson was a mistake for sure, the only good thing about them films was when they were grown up and big suze was one of the older versions of the girl
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:34, Reply)
I liked the books.
Can't remember them much now.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:37, Reply)
much better than that harry potter nonsense

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:38, Reply)
Well I read the Narnia books when I was a kid
I didn't read Harry Potter because I was a fucking ADULT when the came out. What a load of tosh.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:39, Reply)
sacktly
s-acktly
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:40, Reply)
Think of the bible with posh kids and talking mice

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:39, Reply)
Haha yeah

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:40, Reply)
I wouldn't worry
Lions taste of shit, most people wouldn't bother.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:16, Reply)
fuck off, rice krispies, chocolate and toffee
you can't beat a decent lion
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:19, Reply)
deliberate misunderstandinglols.

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:20, Reply)
what misunderstanding? lions are fucken lush

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:21, Reply)

lol
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:08, Reply)
Shut up Quentin

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:10, Reply)
what did i do to deserve such abuse?

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:12, Reply)
Sorry, none I've ever made without using packet sauces, except for really simple sweet chilli stir fry meals.
However, I'm thoroughly looking forward to the summer, so I can make this (stolen from Levi Roots, not sure who he stole it off though)
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:15, Reply)
I've never had them

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:13, Reply)
Not even in the parking lot behind Walmart?

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:15, Reply)
Not even of f chuck hughes nipples

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:22, Reply)
Neither have I

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:15, Reply)
Then you have missed out
I recommend that you both rectify this situation forthwith.
The car park behind Walmart would make an ideal venue.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:26, Reply)
They don't really tempt me, tbh
Then again, I'm off to a festival in August with a few people who are rather fond of illicit substances, might end up having some there.
(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:31, Reply)
im highly uninterested

(, Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:33, Reply)

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