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So, in the last five or six hundred years, religion in this country has gone from being something you burn at the stake for to something you hold a bake sale for. Is this progress?
How will our society be perceived in five hundred years? Are we repeating the decline of the Roman empire?
Alt: if that's too heavy, talk about what you'd do to each other's mums.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 9:59, 214 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
So, in the last five or six hundred years, religion in this country has gone from being something you burn at the stake for to something you hold a bake sale for. Is this progress?
How will our society be perceived in five hundred years? Are we repeating the decline of the Roman empire?
Alt: if that's too heavy, talk about what you'd do to each other's mums.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 9:59, 214 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
I say that the reduction in loss of life in the name of religion is an improvement.
I don't feel like talking about what I'd do to your mum. I'm not really into necrophilia. I'm sure she's lovely and all, I just don't really want to go there, y'know?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:02, Reply)
I don't feel like talking about what I'd do to your mum. I'm not really into necrophilia. I'm sure she's lovely and all, I just don't really want to go there, y'know?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:02, Reply)
Fighting over "god" seems like a good Darwin way of removing idiots
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( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:03, Reply)
i declare holy war on anyone who doesn't believe in the prophet jesus
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( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:06, Reply)
I'm not denying he existed, nothing like that.
But I just doubt he is the son of god.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:07, Reply)
But I just doubt he is the son of god.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:07, Reply)
I'm not denying australia exists, but i doubt it ever has or will contribute anything remotely noteworthy to the rest of the world :/
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It was quite handy when we had a load of undesirables we wished to dispose of.
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( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:18, Reply)
we were stupid for thinking they wouldn't survive the poisonous snakes, spiders, marsupials and all the other shit wildlife
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One of them is an member of the Australian Parliament now
All the other MPs take the piss out of him for it.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:30, Reply)
All the other MPs take the piss out of him for it.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:30, Reply)
I think in the next 20 years there will be some kind of "scum" backlash
The normal folks rebelling against the chav/doley/pikey lots
After that, I'd do your mum
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:02, Reply)
The normal folks rebelling against the chav/doley/pikey lots
After that, I'd do your mum
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:02, Reply)
Isn't that already happening?
With the condemnation of the London Riots and all.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:06, Reply)
With the condemnation of the London Riots and all.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:06, Reply)
Not enough though
I mean the kind of people who have 10 kids just to get benefits, etc. then kick off about how unfair the system is. Fucking scum who put nothing back into the country apart from burden
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:10, Reply)
I mean the kind of people who have 10 kids just to get benefits, etc. then kick off about how unfair the system is. Fucking scum who put nothing back into the country apart from burden
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:10, Reply)
I know what those people are like. There's a bunch of them here in my hometown.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:18, Reply)
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:18, Reply)
And 10 kids which will pay for your middle class pension that you will fail to do by having less than 3 children.
See also immigrants.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:23, Reply)
See also immigrants.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:23, Reply)
Current UK pension liability is £7.1 Trillion
Only possible way of paying it off is above increase above inflation of tax recipts. Economic growth on it's own is generally matched by an increase in inflation so the best way to pay off the pensions of the people that are going to be retiring in the next 20-30 years is by increasing UK population, by having more kids or immigration.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:33, Reply)
Only possible way of paying it off is above increase above inflation of tax recipts. Economic growth on it's own is generally matched by an increase in inflation so the best way to pay off the pensions of the people that are going to be retiring in the next 20-30 years is by increasing UK population, by having more kids or immigration.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:33, Reply)
Yes but what if those 'extra' kids being born are lazy, feckless, workshy cunts who won't do a day's work in their lives?
How is that going to help?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:14, Reply)
How is that going to help?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:14, Reply)
Crucifying gypsies on tv and the like?
Social Security benefit won't be around in its present form much longer, there are less jobs and a growing population, so what to do with doleys?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:06, Reply)
Social Security benefit won't be around in its present form much longer, there are less jobs and a growing population, so what to do with doleys?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:06, Reply)
There are many things that you could do to get dole
Like tidying up places of litter, etc.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:11, Reply)
Like tidying up places of litter, etc.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:11, Reply)
Wouldn't that put council cleaners out of business.
I'm playing Devil's Advocate, to an extent.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:13, Reply)
I'm playing Devil's Advocate, to an extent.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:13, Reply)
You certainly are
You are telling me that everywhere is spotless now using the council?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:14, Reply)
You are telling me that everywhere is spotless now using the council?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:14, Reply)
Well no.
But with the amount of unemployed there are, 2.65 million, after a quick google, there are only so amny crap jobs to do. It was Bismarck who introduced unemployment benefit, he had teams of guys digging holes, and other teams filling them in again.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:20, Reply)
But with the amount of unemployed there are, 2.65 million, after a quick google, there are only so amny crap jobs to do. It was Bismarck who introduced unemployment benefit, he had teams of guys digging holes, and other teams filling them in again.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:20, Reply)
I never said MY mum.
I said talk about what you'd do to EACH OTHER'S mums.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:10, Reply)
I said talk about what you'd do to EACH OTHER'S mums.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:10, Reply)
If we're around in 500 years.
The climate change/peak oil/transition civ lot don't seem to think so, unless we go back to medieval times. Which I wouldn't mind.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:04, Reply)
The climate change/peak oil/transition civ lot don't seem to think so, unless we go back to medieval times. Which I wouldn't mind.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:04, Reply)
I would mind. I don't want to shit and piss squatting over a pot that doesn't flush.
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( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:10, Reply)
Dead link I'm afraid.
Thoufg THIS
aussietraveladvice.com/using-a-squat-toilet/
made me do a lolretch.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:27, Reply)
Thoufg THIS
aussietraveladvice.com/using-a-squat-toilet/
made me do a lolretch.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:27, Reply)
not in civilised places. There are no spiders on my toilet thank you.
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( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:31, Reply)
I'm an optimist.
500 years, we'll be no longer fully bound by the planet, there'll be people living all their lives on the moon and Mars. Asteroid and comets will be grabbed and put into orbit for robots to mine. The idea of 9-5 working will be laughable, no one starving, 100% literacy across the globe. World population will have dropped below its current level as contraceptives are fully available. Most diseases cured or managable to a level you don't really notice.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:22, Reply)
500 years, we'll be no longer fully bound by the planet, there'll be people living all their lives on the moon and Mars. Asteroid and comets will be grabbed and put into orbit for robots to mine. The idea of 9-5 working will be laughable, no one starving, 100% literacy across the globe. World population will have dropped below its current level as contraceptives are fully available. Most diseases cured or managable to a level you don't really notice.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:22, Reply)
To be honest, if we could get the whole world to only be as shit as Coventry
that would be the biggest achievment in Human history
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:28, Reply)
that would be the biggest achievment in Human history
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:28, Reply)
I have,
and talking about 2512 it's far more relavant to this topic than what the newspapers tell you to hate today.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:26, Reply)
and talking about 2512 it's far more relavant to this topic than what the newspapers tell you to hate today.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:26, Reply)
I watched the New Star Trek movie last night
Why is that guys head so big?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:34, Reply)
Why is that guys head so big?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:34, Reply)
I was playing the banjolee at the same time to counteract the effect
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:37, Reply)
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:37, Reply)
I would probably take complete control of your mum
and expand her to be the biggest mum the world had ever seen, i might then go a little crazy with the power and neglect your mum's borders allowing some Visigoths and Bavarians to enter her with extreme violence. This will ultimately lead to the collapse of your mum and i will have a fiddle whilst she burns.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:23, Reply)
and expand her to be the biggest mum the world had ever seen, i might then go a little crazy with the power and neglect your mum's borders allowing some Visigoths and Bavarians to enter her with extreme violence. This will ultimately lead to the collapse of your mum and i will have a fiddle whilst she burns.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:23, Reply)
Yes, of course it is progress.
The grip of fear which kept the church as the mightiest power in Christendom has collapsed: now a young person attending church is an oddity rather than the norm. In western Europe organised religion amongst ethnic natives is in a large decline. Finally, it seems, people have the sense to require evidence of such a preposterous notion as religion before believing in it, and don’t, when this evidence is not forthcoming. The problem is that we are the only part of the world in which this is so. In the US (where they really should know better), ignorance and the denial of science has become a badge of honour. If you declare your ‘faith’ people think it’s great, rather than you being a bit simple as we do here. Not believing in everything you are told unless it can be supported is huge progress.
All ‘empires’ are cyclic, states expand and band together, then disintegrate. It is the turn of the Chinese once again, followed by India (their first go, because they have traditionally not been empire builders). We will be seen in precisely the same way as the Romans, apart from maybe a bit more bent. Gladiatorial games were excellent and we should have them now, like in The Running Man.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:25, Reply)
The grip of fear which kept the church as the mightiest power in Christendom has collapsed: now a young person attending church is an oddity rather than the norm. In western Europe organised religion amongst ethnic natives is in a large decline. Finally, it seems, people have the sense to require evidence of such a preposterous notion as religion before believing in it, and don’t, when this evidence is not forthcoming. The problem is that we are the only part of the world in which this is so. In the US (where they really should know better), ignorance and the denial of science has become a badge of honour. If you declare your ‘faith’ people think it’s great, rather than you being a bit simple as we do here. Not believing in everything you are told unless it can be supported is huge progress.
All ‘empires’ are cyclic, states expand and band together, then disintegrate. It is the turn of the Chinese once again, followed by India (their first go, because they have traditionally not been empire builders). We will be seen in precisely the same way as the Romans, apart from maybe a bit more bent. Gladiatorial games were excellent and we should have them now, like in The Running Man.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:25, Reply)
so now you're generalising about the states too?
i know they have a fundamental minority but ffs
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:26, Reply)
i know they have a fundamental minority but ffs
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:26, Reply)
If you see the electoral campaign of their presidential candidates
you will see that it is not that much of a minority; pandering to the Christian right is considered a political necessity.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:31, Reply)
you will see that it is not that much of a minority; pandering to the Christian right is considered a political necessity.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:31, Reply)
has obama been doing that with his pro-gay marriage stance then?
i did wonder what he was up to
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:35, Reply)
i did wonder what he was up to
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:35, Reply)
who are not in power
and he said 'presidential candidates', and i'm sure he's right. in the past the democrats also pandered to the christian right, but times they are a changin'
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:38, Reply)
and he said 'presidential candidates', and i'm sure he's right. in the past the democrats also pandered to the christian right, but times they are a changin'
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:38, Reply)
O
ask Donald Trump
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:45, Reply)
Trump has the proof
and he's keeping it safe, underneath his toupee.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:47, Reply)
and he's keeping it safe, underneath his toupee.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:47, Reply)
Have five:
From the Christmas Tree lighting ceremony in Washington on Dec. 2, 2011
"More than 2,000 years ago, a child was born to two faithful travelers who could find rest only in a stable, among the cattle and the sheep. But this was not just any child. Christ's birth made the angels rejoice and attracted shepherds and kings from afar. He was a manifestation of God's love for us.
"And he grew up to become a leader with a servant's heart who taught us a message as simple as it is powerful: that we should love God, and love our neighbor as ourselves. That teaching has come to encircle the globe. No matter who we are, or where we come from, or how we worship, it's a message that can unite all of us on this holiday season."
From an Easter Prayer Breakfast on April 19, 2011 at the White House
"I wanted to host this breakfast for a simple reason -- because as busy as we are, as many tasks as pile up, during this season, we are reminded that there's something about the resurrection -- something about the resurrection of our savior, Jesus Christ, that puts everything else in perspective.
"We all live in the hustle and bustle of our work. And everybody in this room has weighty responsibilities, from leading churches and denominations, to helping to administer important government programs, to shaping our culture in various ways. And I admit that my plate has been full as well. The inbox keeps on accumulating.
"But then comes Holy Week. The triumph of Palm Sunday. The humility of Jesus washing the disciples' feet. His slow march up that hill, and the pain and the scorn and the shame of the cross. And we're reminded that in that moment, he took on the sins of the world -- past, present and future -- and he extended to us that unfathomable gift of grace and salvation through his death and resurrection."
From the National Prayer Breakfast on Feb. 3, 2011
"And like all of us, my faith journey has had its twists and turns. It hasn't always been a straight line. I have thanked God for the joys of parenthood and Michelle's willingness to put up with me. In the wake of failures and disappointments I've questioned what God had in store for me and been reminded that God's plans for us may not always match our own short-sighted desires.
"And let me tell you, these past two years, they have deepened my faith. The presidency has a funny way of making a person feel the need to pray. Abe Lincoln said, as many of you know, 'I have been driven to my knees many times by the overwhelming conviction that I had no place else to go.'"
From an Easter Prayer Breakfast on April 6, 2010 at the White House
"For even after the passage of 2,000 years, we can still picture the moment in our mind's eye. The young man from Nazareth marched through Jerusalem; object of scorn and derision and abuse and torture by an empire. The agony of crucifixion amid the cries of thieves. The discovery, just three days later, that would forever alter our world -- that the Son of Man was not to be found in his tomb and that Jesus Christ had risen.
"We are awed by the grace he showed even to those who would have killed him. We are thankful for the sacrifice he gave for the sins of humanity. And we glory in the promise of redemption in the resurrection."
From the National Prayer Breakfast on Feb. 6, 2009
"I was not raised in a particularly religious household. I had a father who was born a Muslim but became an atheist, grandparents who were non-practicing Methodists and Baptists, and a mother who was skeptical of organized religion, even as she was the kindest, most spiritual person I've ever known. She was the one who taught me as a child to love, and to understand, and to do unto others as I would want done.
"I didn't become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college. It happened not because of indoctrination or a sudden revelation, but because I spent month after month working with church folks who simply wanted to help neighbors who were down on their luck no matter what they looked like, or where they came from, or who they prayed to. It was on those streets, in those neighborhoods, that I first heard God's spirit beckon me. It was there that I felt called to a higher purpose -- His purpose."
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:01, Reply)
From the Christmas Tree lighting ceremony in Washington on Dec. 2, 2011
"More than 2,000 years ago, a child was born to two faithful travelers who could find rest only in a stable, among the cattle and the sheep. But this was not just any child. Christ's birth made the angels rejoice and attracted shepherds and kings from afar. He was a manifestation of God's love for us.
"And he grew up to become a leader with a servant's heart who taught us a message as simple as it is powerful: that we should love God, and love our neighbor as ourselves. That teaching has come to encircle the globe. No matter who we are, or where we come from, or how we worship, it's a message that can unite all of us on this holiday season."
From an Easter Prayer Breakfast on April 19, 2011 at the White House
"I wanted to host this breakfast for a simple reason -- because as busy as we are, as many tasks as pile up, during this season, we are reminded that there's something about the resurrection -- something about the resurrection of our savior, Jesus Christ, that puts everything else in perspective.
"We all live in the hustle and bustle of our work. And everybody in this room has weighty responsibilities, from leading churches and denominations, to helping to administer important government programs, to shaping our culture in various ways. And I admit that my plate has been full as well. The inbox keeps on accumulating.
"But then comes Holy Week. The triumph of Palm Sunday. The humility of Jesus washing the disciples' feet. His slow march up that hill, and the pain and the scorn and the shame of the cross. And we're reminded that in that moment, he took on the sins of the world -- past, present and future -- and he extended to us that unfathomable gift of grace and salvation through his death and resurrection."
From the National Prayer Breakfast on Feb. 3, 2011
"And like all of us, my faith journey has had its twists and turns. It hasn't always been a straight line. I have thanked God for the joys of parenthood and Michelle's willingness to put up with me. In the wake of failures and disappointments I've questioned what God had in store for me and been reminded that God's plans for us may not always match our own short-sighted desires.
"And let me tell you, these past two years, they have deepened my faith. The presidency has a funny way of making a person feel the need to pray. Abe Lincoln said, as many of you know, 'I have been driven to my knees many times by the overwhelming conviction that I had no place else to go.'"
From an Easter Prayer Breakfast on April 6, 2010 at the White House
"For even after the passage of 2,000 years, we can still picture the moment in our mind's eye. The young man from Nazareth marched through Jerusalem; object of scorn and derision and abuse and torture by an empire. The agony of crucifixion amid the cries of thieves. The discovery, just three days later, that would forever alter our world -- that the Son of Man was not to be found in his tomb and that Jesus Christ had risen.
"We are awed by the grace he showed even to those who would have killed him. We are thankful for the sacrifice he gave for the sins of humanity. And we glory in the promise of redemption in the resurrection."
From the National Prayer Breakfast on Feb. 6, 2009
"I was not raised in a particularly religious household. I had a father who was born a Muslim but became an atheist, grandparents who were non-practicing Methodists and Baptists, and a mother who was skeptical of organized religion, even as she was the kindest, most spiritual person I've ever known. She was the one who taught me as a child to love, and to understand, and to do unto others as I would want done.
"I didn't become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college. It happened not because of indoctrination or a sudden revelation, but because I spent month after month working with church folks who simply wanted to help neighbors who were down on their luck no matter what they looked like, or where they came from, or who they prayed to. It was on those streets, in those neighborhoods, that I first heard God's spirit beckon me. It was there that I felt called to a higher purpose -- His purpose."
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:01, Reply)
yes, gogle is a search engine that presents various results
where did you copy and paste all that from?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:05, Reply)
where did you copy and paste all that from?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:05, Reply)
Can't remember but the dates of each speech and its context are listed,
cross reference them yourself if you think they are made up.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:10, Reply)
cross reference them yourself if you think they are made up.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:10, Reply)
whose national prayer is that though?
some right wing preacher addressing a congregation? a tv show? what?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:18, Reply)
some right wing preacher addressing a congregation? a tv show? what?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:18, Reply)
Also, fuck off:
www.gallup.com/poll/141044/americans-church-attendance-inches-2010.aspx
Gallup polls confirming US church attendance is rising.
If you really want I will also get you ones showing UK attendance declining, if you like.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:39, Reply)
www.gallup.com/poll/141044/americans-church-attendance-inches-2010.aspx
Gallup polls confirming US church attendance is rising.
If you really want I will also get you ones showing UK attendance declining, if you like.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:39, Reply)
attending church doesn't mean that politicians are still pandering to religion
nor does it mean that any of those people are less temperate than the other americans
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:43, Reply)
nor does it mean that any of those people are less temperate than the other americans
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:43, Reply)
Hmmm, missmatched sample sizes/dates make me doubt the 2010 data.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:43, Reply)
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:43, Reply)
But the point of faith is belief without proof.
If someone proved that god exists, it wouldn't be a matter of faith to belive in him. No-one says "I have faith that gravity is real" because we know it *is*.
Organised religion, of all kinds, is always run by one or two power-mad despots at the top, which is why it will always be corruptible.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:32, Reply)
If someone proved that god exists, it wouldn't be a matter of faith to belive in him. No-one says "I have faith that gravity is real" because we know it *is*.
Organised religion, of all kinds, is always run by one or two power-mad despots at the top, which is why it will always be corruptible.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:32, Reply)
Precisely: that is fundamentally what is wrong with religious belief.
The problems start when such ludicrous beliefs start making people deny things like dinosaurs which are even easier to prove the existence of than gravity.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:34, Reply)
The problems start when such ludicrous beliefs start making people deny things like dinosaurs which are even easier to prove the existence of than gravity.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:34, Reply)
i have never in all my life heard anyone seriously attempt to disprove the existence of dinosaurs
where do you get this shit monty?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:45, Reply)
where do you get this shit monty?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:45, Reply)
It's not my fault you are ill-informed.
There is an argument in circulation that dinosaur bones have been planted in the ground by God to test the faith of his people. What sounds to you like the stupidest shit you have ever heard is actually taught to children in some US schools.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:46, Reply)
There is an argument in circulation that dinosaur bones have been planted in the ground by God to test the faith of his people. What sounds to you like the stupidest shit you have ever heard is actually taught to children in some US schools.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:46, Reply)
I thought it was just evolution they had a problem with?
I love the argument "We can't be descended from monkeys, because monkeys still exist"
I like to counter that with "I can't be descended from my grandparents because my cousins still exist"
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:49, Reply)
I love the argument "We can't be descended from monkeys, because monkeys still exist"
I like to counter that with "I can't be descended from my grandparents because my cousins still exist"
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:49, Reply)
which schools monty?
show me one school where this is taught please and i will eat my words, prove to me that this isn't some daily mail equivalent hyberbole bollocks and i'll apologise
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:55, Reply)
show me one school where this is taught please and i will eat my words, prove to me that this isn't some daily mail equivalent hyberbole bollocks and i'll apologise
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:55, Reply)
I have heard this too and I don't read the Daily Mail.
You really shouldn't underestimate how stupid some Americans are.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:58, Reply)
You really shouldn't underestimate how stupid some Americans are.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:58, Reply)
Tennessee:
www.washingtonpost.com/national/law-allows-creationism-to-be-taught-in-tenn-public-schools/2012/04/11/gIQAAjqxAT_story.html
Indiana: www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/26/indiana-senate-creationism-teaching-bill_n_1234185.html
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:02, Reply)
www.washingtonpost.com/national/law-allows-creationism-to-be-taught-in-tenn-public-schools/2012/04/11/gIQAAjqxAT_story.html
Indiana: www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/26/indiana-senate-creationism-teaching-bill_n_1234185.html
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:02, Reply)
nothing about denying dinosaurs there
i disagree with teaching creationism and intelligent design, but if those states have a higher than average rate of christian fundies and thats what they want to teach, they need learning and will catch up with the rest of us eventually
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:06, Reply)
i disagree with teaching creationism and intelligent design, but if those states have a higher than average rate of christian fundies and thats what they want to teach, they need learning and will catch up with the rest of us eventually
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:06, Reply)
He mentions it too.
doctor.claudemariottini.com/2008/01/dinosaurs-and-christian-faith.html
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:14, Reply)
doctor.claudemariottini.com/2008/01/dinosaurs-and-christian-faith.html
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:14, Reply)
a 2008 article that refernces events in the 80s?
you have totally blown my argument out of the water, all americans are clearly right-wing christian nutjobs who don't believe in dinosaurs
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:17, Reply)
you have totally blown my argument out of the water, all americans are clearly right-wing christian nutjobs who don't believe in dinosaurs
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:17, Reply)
just your dad then?
is that how come your life is such a mess? did his religious beliefs fuck you up?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:23, Reply)
is that how come your life is such a mess? did his religious beliefs fuck you up?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:23, Reply)
What? Right wing American creationism has become worse since then, not better.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:19, Reply)
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:19, Reply)
I've seen it taught
Its ridiculous and all stems from the fact that they do not believe the earth is old enough for Dinosaurs to have really existed.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:10, Reply)
Its ridiculous and all stems from the fact that they do not believe the earth is old enough for Dinosaurs to have really existed.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:10, Reply)
where? in a real school or sunday school?
did they also present evolution as an alternative or was it one-sided?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:11, Reply)
did they also present evolution as an alternative or was it one-sided?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:11, Reply)
Dude.
All I've said is that Christianity is on the rise in the US, and that politicians have to reference this or they will struggle. FFS this is true.
My own father is a Christian minister who lives in Virginia. If you really like I can get you a sample of attendance stats from his own fucking church.
Or you could just shut up.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:13, Reply)
All I've said is that Christianity is on the rise in the US, and that politicians have to reference this or they will struggle. FFS this is true.
My own father is a Christian minister who lives in Virginia. If you really like I can get you a sample of attendance stats from his own fucking church.
Or you could just shut up.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:13, Reply)
no you didn't, you said that politicians pandered to the right-wing christians
i agreed to a point but said obama wasn't doing that so much, things are moving in the right direction there
i couldn't give a flip about your dad, no offence, he has fuck all to do with american politics or education
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:15, Reply)
i agreed to a point but said obama wasn't doing that so much, things are moving in the right direction there
i couldn't give a flip about your dad, no offence, he has fuck all to do with american politics or education
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:15, Reply)
Yes he does.
He's a minister at the College of William and Mary in Williamsburg. he is both a professional Christian and an educator in the so-called bible belt of the US. How much more relevant do you need?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:18, Reply)
He's a minister at the College of William and Mary in Williamsburg. he is both a professional Christian and an educator in the so-called bible belt of the US. How much more relevant do you need?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:18, Reply)
Quiten is trying in vain to contest documented fact.
I wouldn't bother, it's got me nowhere.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:12, Reply)
I wouldn't bother, it's got me nowhere.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:12, Reply)
Could you just clear up the debate about the relative sizes of George Formby and his banjolele instead?
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Those quotes from Obama are not fictitious.
The Gallup polls (whilst perhaps not cast iron) do not reflect the decling in church attendance reported in this country, do they?
Please give this up, it's boring now.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:15, Reply)
The Gallup polls (whilst perhaps not cast iron) do not reflect the decling in church attendance reported in this country, do they?
Please give this up, it's boring now.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:15, Reply)
He was talking about presidents having to pander to the right wing Christians
you said something about that explaining Obama's gay left wing marriage agenda or some sarcastic shit like that, he said Obama had to make Christian noises, you said name one, he listed those quotes.
THe conversational thread isn't that hard to follow if you're not being purposefully dense.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:23, Reply)
you said something about that explaining Obama's gay left wing marriage agenda or some sarcastic shit like that, he said Obama had to make Christian noises, you said name one, he listed those quotes.
THe conversational thread isn't that hard to follow if you're not being purposefully dense.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:23, Reply)
I heard a porn star describing her job as being like a Gladiator for the modern empires.
Interesting thought.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:34, Reply)
Interesting thought.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:34, Reply)
It was an interview with Sasha Grey, but I'm not going to be googling that at work to be honest.
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Sasha Grey is great
Gorgeous, intelligent, filthy and interesting.
I'm a big fan.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:50, Reply)
Gorgeous, intelligent, filthy and interesting.
I'm a big fan.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:50, Reply)
And that vid where she sprays milk out of her arse in to the other girls mouth and vice versa was awesome
A real modern day piece of contemporary art. I watched that one more than once I can tell you.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:12, Reply)
A real modern day piece of contemporary art. I watched that one more than once I can tell you.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:12, Reply)
Religion is shit. Society is shit.
Mums are ok though.
Hope this helps.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:54, Reply)
Mums are ok though.
Hope this helps.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:54, Reply)
What if you mum is a vicar and an imporatnt member of society, then what?
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actually that was an idea for a thread i was considering the other day
i don't think humanity is doing particularly well and wouldn't mind if the whole lot was just wiped out once and for all, but the best methods i've come up with so far have been;
1. set fire to the earth's atmosphere (which it turns out isn't even possible)
2. Radioactive killer bees (which is long-winded and likely to fail)
anyone got any better ideas?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:58, Reply)
i don't think humanity is doing particularly well and wouldn't mind if the whole lot was just wiped out once and for all, but the best methods i've come up with so far have been;
1. set fire to the earth's atmosphere (which it turns out isn't even possible)
2. Radioactive killer bees (which is long-winded and likely to fail)
anyone got any better ideas?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 10:58, Reply)
I'm sure in 1985 you can walk into every corner store and buy some plutonium
but here, in 1955, I'm afraid it's a little harder to come by. I'm afraid you're stuck here.
Stuck here? I can't be stuck here. I have a life. In 1985. I have a girl!
Is she pretty?
Ah, Doc, she's beautiful. Look, see what she wrote here? She's crazy about me Doc.
Let me see that. THIS IS IT.
*Sequence shortened
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:14, Reply)
but here, in 1955, I'm afraid it's a little harder to come by. I'm afraid you're stuck here.
Stuck here? I can't be stuck here. I have a life. In 1985. I have a girl!
Is she pretty?
Ah, Doc, she's beautiful. Look, see what she wrote here? She's crazy about me Doc.
Let me see that. THIS IS IT.
*Sequence shortened
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:14, Reply)
If the oxygen content of the earth's atmosphere was doubled,
The earth would burn very nicely.
By using low carbon methods of electrolysing water this could be achieved.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:05, Reply)
The earth would burn very nicely.
By using low carbon methods of electrolysing water this could be achieved.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:05, Reply)
Local supernova would wipe us all out.
But then you can't exactly set one off.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:07, Reply)
But then you can't exactly set one off.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:07, Reply)
i'm hoping for a ELE soon, yellowstone's overdue, but apparently we're not due an asteroid for 35 million years or so :(
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The problem with natural disasters like Yellowstone is that we'll be able to survive that fairly well.
I mean America and canada will be screwed, but Russia won't be bothered, nor most of Africa.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:11, Reply)
I mean America and canada will be screwed, but Russia won't be bothered, nor most of Africa.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:11, Reply)
It wouldn't be great, but we're talking there about failed harvests and low yields
not all plant life dying.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:14, Reply)
not all plant life dying.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:14, Reply)
I thought they said the caldera would hugely damage worldwide ecosystems if it went off?
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My mum is 49, in good health. Goes to the gym regularly and goes to Zumba twice a week
Blonde, Slim, Blue eyes, enjoys live music, Guinness and parties.
Shall we start the bidding at £50?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:05, Reply)
Blonde, Slim, Blue eyes, enjoys live music, Guinness and parties.
Shall we start the bidding at £50?
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:05, Reply)
I'm very glad to hear it
Now, what are the chances of you re-adding me on facebook? :P
EDIT: Yep, thought as much
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:26, Reply)
Now, what are the chances of you re-adding me on facebook? :P
EDIT: Yep, thought as much
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:26, Reply)
I saw them play at my university. The lead singer had left and been replaced by some guy.
They were a bit shit and the guy complained on stage that he'd specifically asked for no green lighting.
Fucking chutney.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:26, Reply)
They were a bit shit and the guy complained on stage that he'd specifically asked for no green lighting.
Fucking chutney.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:26, Reply)
As we have the same surname
but my actual sister doesn't, can I swap her for you? I've always been the eldest and would love a big sister.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:29, Reply)
but my actual sister doesn't, can I swap her for you? I've always been the eldest and would love a big sister.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:29, Reply)
this is a leading question
i remember last time one of our circle fessed up that they'd totally hit your mum. iirc tables were flipped, beans were spilt, and words were exchanged in a heated manner.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 12:29, Reply)
i remember last time one of our circle fessed up that they'd totally hit your mum. iirc tables were flipped, beans were spilt, and words were exchanged in a heated manner.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 12:29, Reply)
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