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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Bands that have aged well / badly
I listened to Therapy? for the first time in years the other day. Whilst it's easy to see why I thought Troublegum was the dog's bollocks when I was 16, it has not stood the test of time well at all. Conversely The Wildhearts still sound as enjoyably brash as they did in the mid-90s. Who's aged well or badly in your opinion? Please note; "Oasis don't sound any worse now than they did then" is not a viable answer, as they literally could not sound any worse under any circumstances.

Look fuck off the last thread was about Fleetwood Mac, at least I'm trying.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 13:58, 195 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
I am going to the Earth Vs The Wildhearts 20th aniversary gig in Manchester next month.
I still have a t-shirt from 1993 of theirs.
It still fits me too.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:01, Reply)
Fucking hell, how did I not know about this?
I fucking love that album. I'm Googling this shit RIGHT THE FUCK RIGHT NOW
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:02, Reply)

Googling this
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:06, Reply)
Damn, only four shows
Too far away / too far away / sister's birthday so won't be about / shithole

Tricky
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:05, Reply)
Few of my friends are off to that, have invited me along
Unfortunately, I don't think I've heard a single song by The Wildhearts, so it wouldn't be for me.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:10, Reply)
If only you had some time to listen to their music, say a month.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:18, Reply)
I'd also have to want to

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:22, Reply)
Oh a music thread...
I'll ring up the mobile people to complain then.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:02, Reply)
Listen you can blame them for a lot but not this thread.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:06, Reply)
"Some gay is posting shit about bands I don't know, I demand compensation"

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:07, Reply)
Sorted, in your face doubters.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:13, Reply)
I'm going to get it swapped over on M-Day 2

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:20, Reply)
OH MAN IT COULD BE CALLED MTV-DAY LOL!

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:21, Reply)
I don't know how the fuck I'm supposed to know the name of the band when you don't.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:03, Reply)
Hawkwind are better now than at any time since the early 90s.
They are better now than they were for a good proportion of the late 70s/early 80s too.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:05, Reply)
Not quite what I meant but go on then
Better in terms of live shows, new material or both?
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:06, Reply)
are they a real thing then?
i always thought monty made them up
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:10, Reply)
They have been going for 44 years

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:16, Reply)
They're as dreadful now as they always were.
Like Status Quo, only for hippies.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:13, Reply)
YEAH, WELL......FAT WIFE!!!!!!

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:18, Reply)
Dude, you missed a golden opportunity to say 'RENTED HOUSE' of get upset because I've quoted a comedy sketch on a comedy website.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:19, Reply)
I'm saving that for when I'm REALLY not bothered

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:24, Reply)
They recruited a new bassist a couple years ago and have beefed up their sound as a result.
They've also ditched a lot of the electronic bits from their sets which could be a bit dull - and as a band famous for light shows, stage sets etc technology has caught up with them and their shows look better than ever. Digital projections are way, way better than the old slide ones despite their nostalgic appeal.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:15, Reply)
Oh yeah I remember you saying
Mate of a mate of yours who wears a war helmet onstage in a thoroughly Lemmy-esque way. Or something
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:21, Reply)
That's right.
He's done wonders for the old gits.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:24, Reply)
SEE I DO LISTEN
and my brain retains the most ludicrously random things.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:27, Reply)
have you got a prince albert?

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:06, Reply)
I'm surprised you don't remember
given how long it took to get the damn thing untangled from your tongue stud
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:07, Reply)
stupid magnets

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:08, Reply)
Mozart has aged pretty well

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:07, Reply)
when i was about 7 i was really struggling with one of his pieces (obviously it was massively dumbed down, i ain't no child genius)
and eventually i slammed the piano lid down and said vindictively, "wolfgang amadeus mozart. i wish he was dead."

any glee at being told he was was ruined by my parents' pissing themselves and repeating it for weeks. i fucking hate mozart.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:09, Reply)
yeah me too, classical music is shit

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:10, Reply)
i have 4 stars on it on "songpop" now though
not entirely ignorant, me.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:10, Reply)
i don't know what this means soz

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:11, Reply)
you don't have songpop on your ipad?
you heathen, you
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:15, Reply)
i don't have an i pad soz

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:16, Reply)
you heathen you

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:18, Reply)
I haz ipad mini.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:31, Reply)
Hang about
You play SongPop but haven't challenged me? HOW DARE YOU
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:27, Reply)
Duur, it's 'Amadues'. FFS

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:16, Reply)
who do i look like, battered?
if you say "yes" to that, imma stick your head in a pizza at the next secret bash.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:19, Reply)
AMADUES AMADUES

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:23, Reply)
Look out for the coach

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:41, Reply)
suede still sound exactly the same as they ever did

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:09, Reply)
This falls foul of the Oasis ruling above
STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:09, Reply)
i get where you're coming from but here me out,
it is slightly different because suede have just released a new album, and i am describing that new album as sounding the same as they ever did, so where with oasis you might say that their old stuff sounds as shit now as it ever did, suede are still churning out the same level of shit
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:13, Reply)
Aha
I've also just remembered that Suede did a song I liked once. "Still Life" from Dog Man Star. Somehow Brett Anderson sounds like an actual singer and not a whiney cunt on that one.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:15, Reply)
the bassist is the brother of richard osman, who is the guy on the quiz show pointless

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:27, Reply)
Every time I watch that I end up thinking that Xander Armstrong secretly hates that guy

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:28, Reply)
Tell us that joke about being a popular band from the 80s, I like that one.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:09, Reply)
gonz i need a cuddle

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:14, Reply)
I don't wanna infect you mate, I'm proper colded up, or flued up, or got a cough.... I can't tell the difference to tell you the truth.
I'd snug you so hard and even sniff at your chest hair if I was well though.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:29, Reply)
dayum

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:35, Reply)
I could rub vicks vapo rub on your chest and give you a gas-mask.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:41, Reply)
is a gas mask a type of sex act

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 15:20, Reply)
so does prince
but soon he will start to sound like a dirty little old man
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:09, Reply)
I dunno, Phil Collins is pretty shit.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:09, Reply)
I like Oasis.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:11, Reply)
Fucking hell Kroners
I'm not sure even Dozer likes Oasis
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:13, Reply)
Don't you think it's a bit overpriced for cordial?

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:14, Reply)
ladies and gentlemen
ladies and gentlemen

please gather round

here we have officially the WORST answer in the entire history of OT.

well done old chap!
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:16, Reply)
in fact, it's so shit i had to click it

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:19, Reply)
I dunno, there's some corkers in here
b3ta.com/search/answers?q=whiskey+chat
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:19, Reply)
as an overall topic there are many fucking dull things that people think other people want to hear about
whiskey chat is just one of those verboten things.

but as an individual post, i think it shines like a solid turd in a sea of diarrhoea.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:21, Reply)
\o/

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:22, Reply)
I can't bring myself to agree because Loakers is a good bloke
and, crucially, not Al. Or Dozer. Or Freefair. Or Piston.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:24, Reply)
at it is just pre-diluted squash
he seems like a canny chap
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:48, Reply)
Coldplay sound as good today as they ever did.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:12, Reply)
Killswitch Engage started well, then went downhill quickly.
They've just gone back to their original singer though, hoping they improve again.

Bullet For My Valentine managed to improve massively from their early stuff, but they're still very much hit and miss.

Suffocation's new stuff doesn't sound anything close to as good as their old stuff, they sound like they've gone soft.

Cannibal Corpse stuff has got better over time, but my favourite track of theirs is still one of the old ones.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:12, Reply)
BFMV's first album is fucking brilliant
Less hit and miss, I would have said, than Scream Aim Fire
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:13, Reply)
Their first album was gash.
At least by the time Scream Aim Fire came out, they'd realised that they couldn't continue to whimper like little girls, and actually worked on learning to play their instruments.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:14, Reply)
Always a bonus for a musical ensemble.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:15, Reply)
I'm not sure I actually agree with this.
On the one hand: snotty teenage mid-60s garage punk bands, on the other Emerson Lake and Palmer.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:19, Reply)
This is quite true
Although you could argue that some of the snotty teenage mid-60s garage punk bands turned out to be quite good because one of their members grew up to be Emerson, Lake or Palmer.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:24, Reply)
You could argue that, but you would lose the argument pretty quickly.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:28, Reply)
I wasn't going to argue that.
Just saying that you could.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:36, Reply)
SHUTS UP!

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:25, Reply)
Explain "Bittersweet Memories" then smartarse
that was on SAF and was the worst kind of emo shite. Also, explain the chorus lyrics to "Hearts Burst Into Fire". Is Matt Tuck a fucking Time Lord or summat?
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:16, Reply)
I haven't listened to the album well enough to know different tracks off it
Is it as emo as 'All these things I hate'?

The only good track I'll accept off the first album is 'Tears Don't Fall', although it does have a remarkably gay title.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:18, Reply)
As emo, yeah, but not as good a song musically. At least All these Things I Hate is moshable.
Just Another Star, which is actually from an EP predating The Poison, is my favourite song of theirs. Absolute belter.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:25, Reply)
all of these bands are shit
hth xx
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:15, Reply)
You are shit
hth xx
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:17, Reply)
He's right, "Ben Fogle" (IITIYRN)
You are shit.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:18, Reply)
I think you should listen to Fogesy here guys.
He's making a valid point.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:20, Reply)
I didn't want to get too bogged down in detail, but i think the point is valid

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:22, Reply)
Basically, death metal bands are all shit.
Bar Napalm Death. They're merely amusingly bad.

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/va-forced-to-cancel-napalm-death-gig-over-fears-for-historic-building-8539759.html
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:28, Reply)
They are fucking awful
Shane Embury is absolutely massive, though.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:29, Reply)
Cannibal Corpse are basically what you get when you cross Napalm Death with Sickipedia.
I bet they all finger kids as well.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:34, Reply)
The fact that they are able to have a laugh now improves them, somewhat
They seem to know full well that the messages of their songs are crap, so have some fun with it. The singers 'actions' to Fucked With A Knife made me chuckle.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:38, Reply)
Lawnmower Deth are the best death metal band.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:30, Reply)
Cannibal Corpse, for me.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:34, Reply)

b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1904361
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:35, Reply)
I used to like Sore Throat and ENT as well

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:46, Reply)
Shem in Ipswich.
They were shit.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 15:02, Reply)
I used to go to see Napalm Death all the time when I were a lad
This was in the Lee Dorrian days. He's a good egg.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:31, Reply)
I went to see them once at Chelmsford Army And Navy.
They were awful, but hilarious.

I'm fairly certain that they now this as well.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:36, Reply)
Last time I saw them two things of note happened:
1. their fat bassist got pissed off with someone shouting out that he was a 'fat bastard', jumped off the stage and chinned him
2. my mate Biddy threw up all over the mixing desk
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:45, Reply)
A few years ago I would have been excited beyond measure at the release of a new My Bloody Valentine album.
They finally got around to releasing it this year and, d'yknow what? I'm not that bothered.
Turns out I already owned all the MBV that I needed.
Still bought it obvs.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:20, Reply)
Kevin Shields has BO.
Just sayin'.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:21, Reply)
Yeah, you just say that every time I mention them.
Just sayin'.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:22, Reply)
read this entire post thinking it was about My Chemical Romance

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:46, Reply)
I'm gonna say "Mike and the Mechanics"

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:20, Reply)
go on then

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:21, Reply)
*looks back over shoulder*
"Mike and the Mechanics"
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:21, Reply)
oh you rotter

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:22, Reply)
i do hope no one has this song stuck in their heads now

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:23, Reply)
When are you planning on saying that?
I want to make sure I'm around, that's all.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:22, Reply)
Music is for children.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:23, Reply)
this doesn't really work btw
hth xx
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:27, Reply)
Music is for children and the childish.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:27, Reply)
You should go and play Pac Man or something then.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:32, Reply)
You should listen to the Glee album or something then.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:32, Reply)
still doesn't work, soz

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:32, Reply)
It works exactly the same amount as your argument works.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:32, Reply)
no it doesn't

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:33, Reply)
Yes it does

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:33, Reply)
no it doesn't.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:35, Reply)
yes it does.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:36, Reply)
no it doesn't.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:36, Reply)
yes it does.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:38, Reply)
no it doesn't.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:38, Reply)
yes it does.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:38, Reply)
no it doesn't.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:40, Reply)
yes it does.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:40, Reply)
no it doesn't.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:41, Reply)
Yes it does

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:41, Reply)
no it doesn't.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:43, Reply)
Yes it does

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:44, Reply)
yes it does.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:44, Reply)
yes it does.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:44, Reply)
yes it does!

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:44, Reply)
yes it does!

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:44, Reply)
yes it does.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:44, Reply)
Yes it does

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:45, Reply)


(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:45, Reply)
no it doesn't.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:48, Reply)
yes it does.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:45, Reply)
yes it does

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:45, Reply)
yes it does

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:45, Reply)
No it doesn't

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:46, Reply)
Yes it does.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:47, Reply)
no it doesn't.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:50, Reply)
YES IT DOES YOU BENT SPASTIC

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:45, Reply)
It works as well as your new phones shitty OS

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:48, Reply)
The point I'm making is the argument is shit.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:50, Reply)
I think we've all learned a lot from this debate.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:50, Reply)
No we haven't

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:53, Reply)
Yes we have.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:56, Reply)
no it isn't..

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:51, Reply)
but not as well as his 3in CRT Alba TV

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:51, Reply)
I like REM

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:28, Reply)
*comes in and trys to wake you*

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:30, Reply)
That's me. In the corner.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:31, Reply)
no one puts Kronely in the corner!
unless it's the Blair Witch
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:32, Reply)

like am a

+EDIAL
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:30, Reply)
Fucking hell, you're not coming across very well at all in this thread are you

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:34, Reply)
I like The Verve.
Sorry, Richard, I do of course mean "Verve"
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:34, Reply)
They are dull as dishwater Northern moaning twats

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:36, Reply)
Now I'm sure you're just trolling us

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:38, Reply)
Good God Holmes, how *do* you do it?
*does 'clapping spastic' impression*
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:42, Reply)
Preparation is key
Always have KY to hand
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:43, Reply)
Richard Ashcroft got even better when he went solo.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:44, Reply)
I like The Devinyls.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:36, Reply)
Are you touching yourself?

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:37, Reply)
Look who you're asking

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:39, Reply)
I like Crystal swing

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:39, Reply)
Well that explains a lot
swing meth
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:41, Reply)
*toothless grin*

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:43, Reply)
I like The Sundays

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:42, Reply)
i fucking love the saturday's but not in a musical way

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:43, Reply)
I had a cassette of one of their albums in about 1993
It was alright at the time.
Dunno how well it has aged though.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:45, Reply)
I have an awful lot of sublime that just gets skipped

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:45, Reply)
I havea sublime album, but it won't play on my ipod so I've never heard it
true story
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:46, Reply)
Blur went downhill after they released "Charmless Man"

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:49, Reply)
Some tracks have stood up well to the test of time
Althea and Donna's uptown etc for example still stands up as a great one off hit.

I mean it's no Joe Dolce but still a good tune
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:53, Reply)
So your story is 'some songs are good'?

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:54, Reply)
It's a fair point.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:56, Reply)
prove me wrong
Or Shaddupa your Face...
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:57, Reply)
Primal Scream haven't released anything to the standard of XTRMNTR and that was about 2000.
DJ Shadow's output since The Private Press has been pretty poor as well.

I listened to Royal Trux for the first time in ages last night. They were pretty good back in the day.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 15:02, Reply)
Royal Trux were ace.

(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 15:02, Reply)
so were JSBX
Both graduates of Pussy Galore. I saw RTX support the Primals a few years ago.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 15:16, Reply)
Domino reissued all the RTX albums a couple of years back.
Hagerty's other band Weird War were alright and all.
(, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 15:24, Reply)

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