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 So UberGruppenFuhrer Boyce is in Chermany
	So UberGruppenFuhrer Boyce is in ChermanyMost appropriate/Least appropriate holidays please
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:14, 217 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
 shudder
	shudderi dread attending meetings there
i can feel my soul being sucked out of my body
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:38, Reply)
 Plus every time you say anything it suddenly become as though you never said it and everyone gets confused.
	Plus every time you say anything it suddenly become as though you never said it and everyone gets confused.(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:40, Reply)
 no, first they have to go actively looking for something i might possibly have said to someone else
	no, first they have to go actively looking for something i might possibly have said to someone elseand when they find it, then make it as if i never said it
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:45, Reply)
 I've gone on a mad chilli-sauce making mission, Windus
	I've gone on a mad chilli-sauce making mission, WindusI've made three so far, and I'm quite pleased with them. I really want other people to try them though.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:31, Reply)
 By all means
	By all meansI made one today with bananas. It's seriously sweet and pretty spicy. Might have to knock up some burgers over the next couple of days to take it for a test drive.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:33, Reply)
 I want to know more about these.
	I want to know more about these.I bought some chili-jam that i love to eat with lamb chops on a bed of turkish rice.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:44, Reply)
 Todays one is banana, ginger, onion, bit of brown sugar and two types of chilli (scotch bonnet and something jalapeno-ish)
	Todays one is banana, ginger, onion, bit of brown sugar and two types of chilli (scotch bonnet and something jalapeno-ish)The other two were tomato, mango and garlic based. The only difference between them was the raw scotch bonnet mixed through one of them.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:49, Reply)
 That's fine, but you'll have to bring your own spoon and/or crackers
	That's fine, but you'll have to bring your own spoon and/or crackers(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:34, Reply)
 anyway,
	anyway, highlights of the weekend were Airbourne, who are jsut AC/DC but younger. right down to the marshall stacks on stage, Satyricon, who fucking blew me away, Queens of the Stone Age were really on form, Alice in Chains were fantastic, and a new band called Krokodil who don't even seem to have anything on youtube, let alone a record.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:55, Reply)
 Cool
	CoolI wish I'd gone to a couple of festivals when I was younger. I'm sure I'd still dig it now, but I'm slightly less comfortable sleeping in mud than I used to be.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:58, Reply)
 it wasn't too bad really,
	it wasn't too bad really, we had a decent air bed and quilted double sleeping bag, and apart from a bit of mud on day one, wellies kept us pretty safe from it all.
It depends where you camp i reckon. In the campsites close to the action shit gets raucous, but we were down in one of the further back ones and it was pretty sedate. met some nice folks, smoked a metric fuck ton of weed with strangers, got a bit pissed.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:13, Reply)
 I'm taking the kids to one down the road from you in August.
	I'm taking the kids to one down the road from you in August.I'll be honest I'm dreading it.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:00, Reply)
 Hey, that IS near me.
	Hey, that IS near me.You need to cross water to get there, but still! That is the one on the island, right?
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:04, Reply)
 Nearly - this is the little brother of the one over the sea.
	Nearly - this is the little brother of the one over the sea.It's in Dorset, but google maps said I had to go near your house to get there from here.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:06, Reply)
 Aha
	AhaYeah, Dorset's further away than IOW. Still, I'll keep an eye out for you. We notice when new people pass through the town, you see.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:08, Reply)
 I've just looked again and we don't really go anywhere near you.
	I've just looked again and we don't really go anywhere near you.Still, might be worth making a detour if there's any of that chilli sauce left.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:13, Reply)
 It's gonna be shit
	It's gonna be shitI will never take my kid to a festival. They can go on their own when they're old enough.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:01, Reply)
 Seriously, I know what I got up to at festivals, and I know what I saw other people doing
	Seriously, I know what I got up to at festivals, and I know what I saw other people doingI don't want to be seeing my offspring doing that. What I don't know can't hurt me.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:05, Reply)
 This is even worse - a 'family friendly' festival.
	This is even worse - a 'family friendly' festival.There's only realty two bands I want to see, I will probably spend the rest of the time arsing about with the kids.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:09, Reply)
 there were a lot of children at Download,
	there were a lot of children at Download, the amount of breasts on the big screen was bad enough for the younger ones, let alone all the drugged up crazies and other goings on. There was a kid no older than about 12 down the front for Down that i thought was gonna get killed when the mosh pit kicked in
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:11, Reply)
 I fucking hate the site layout at Download so much.
	I fucking hate the site layout at Download so much.it really is shit.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:13, Reply)
 Very much this
	Very much thisEven with the cracking lineup this year, I was never considering it, due to how shit the layout is.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:17, Reply)
 It's also the getting parked and getting out again
	It's also the getting parked and getting out againthey never even try and make the car parks accessible despite knowing it's going to get muddy.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:19, Reply)
 took us 2 and a half hours to get out of the car park.
	took us 2 and a half hours to get out of the car park.but that was mostly because it wasn't marshalled properly in any sort of fashion.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:21, Reply)
 yeah, the walk from the campsites up to the venue was a fuck of a long way.
	yeah, the walk from the campsites up to the venue was a fuck of a long way.last time we were in the disabled site, which means we had a bus up, and year before we got a good spot in black camp, so it wasn't too far, but outside of black or top of Gold, it's a hell of a trek.
30 min walk this year from our tent to the venue.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:17, Reply)
 it's a bit daft,
	it's a bit daft, but i guess if you've got a huge race track in the middle there is little you can do.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:21, Reply)
 When I first went it was held within the racetrack
	When I first went it was held within the racetrackit was really good.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:27, Reply)
 nothing, but i'm not sure you should be exposing children to that sort of behaviour young.
	nothing, but i'm not sure you should be exposing children to that sort of behaviour young.We all know the tits out on the big screen is all a bit of a laugh, and i imagine most of the girls do too, but there are those who feel women HAVE to get their breasts out, and exposing children to it that young is adding to modern rape culture in young men, or something. My feminist friend got very angry about it. I just like to look at boobs, is that a crime?
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:19, Reply)
 As long as it goes no further than looking, no.
	As long as it goes no further than looking, no.My youngest gets exposed to breasts several times a day.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:23, Reply)
 really?
	really?Edit: Breastfeeding or you really are on some sort of commune.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:24, Reply)
 There's a weird dynamic in our culture where apparently it's ok for small children to wath
	There's a weird dynamic in our culture where apparently it's ok for small children to waththe power rangers or whatever knocking lumps off stuff, but boobs are verboten. Especially since kids spend the first few months of their lives sucking the damn things.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:26, Reply)
 Not only that, we like to see breasts just about everywhere, apart from being functional and feeding a child.
	Not only that, we like to see breasts just about everywhere, apart from being functional and feeding a child.Then the hippy bitch should have the decency to go and hide in the bogs or summat.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:28, Reply)
 Airbourne are fucking mental live
	Airbourne are fucking mental liveSatyricon are astonishing, caught them at Download 2006, was in shock at how good they were. Trying to work out if I've seen them again since.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:16, Reply)
 Satyricon were incredible,
	Satyricon were incredible, the crowd were fairly small as they clashed with the first half of Rammsteins set, but they blew me away. They said that they have just finished a new record, and are touring end of this year.
I am getting tickets as soon as they come up.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:23, Reply)
 Just messaged my friend to enquire whether I have seen them since
	Just messaged my friend to enquire whether I have seen them sinceEither way, if they come near me, think I'll be getting tickets for that.
The other gig I'm off to later this year is 30 Seconds to Mars.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:28, Reply)
 i didn't see 30 seconds to mars, in fact, I'm not sure I've heard any of their music.
	i didn't see 30 seconds to mars, in fact, I'm not sure I've heard any of their music.Alice in Chains are touring, go and see them, even the new stuff is good.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:34, Reply)
 I'm not sure I want to cash in a night out card to go an see them again
	I'm not sure I want to cash in a night out card to go an see them againthough I did really enjoy them when I saw them a few years back at teh Forum.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:35, Reply)
 Don't really know any Alice In Chains
	Don't really know any Alice In ChainsI'm not a big fan of 30STM, but I hear they're excellent live, as I know the support are, so going to see them on the strength of their performances, over the 'strength' of their music.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:35, Reply)
 THere is a difference between "camp" and "fucking tragic emo wank"
	THere is a difference between "camp" and "fucking tragic emo wank"(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:38, Reply)
 I'm going to see some proper noise next month:
	I'm going to see some proper noise next month:www.factmag.com/2013/05/30/nazoranai-stephen-omalley-keiji-haino-and-oren-ambarchi-and-nicholas-bullen-to-descend-on-birmingham/
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:41, Reply)
 See, I don't get that shit either.
	See, I don't get that shit either.There isn't anything even musically interesting about that, it could literally be performed by three people who had never seen their instruments before.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:44, Reply)
 Yet when I say that about bands like Cannibal Corpse, people say I'm an idiot.
	Yet when I say that about bands like Cannibal Corpse, people say I'm an idiot.Then again, they also say that when I'm not even talking.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:47, Reply)
 It's not lazy, if you're billing yourself as "noise supremos"
	It's not lazy, if you're billing yourself as "noise supremos"then it would help if a) your music was actually noisy, and that wasn't and b) if something interesting happened, even once.
I can't really get into Meshuggah, but they are both noisy and musically very talented.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:52, Reply)
 Same with me, my friends are crazy about them, I just don't get it.
	Same with me, my friends are crazy about them, I just don't get it.Same with Opeth
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:52, Reply)
 It's likely to be uncomfortably noisy live.
	It's likely to be uncomfortably noisy live.I have an Oren Ambarchi album which, on first listen, I thought nothing happens on it.
Further listens have proven it to be brilliant.*
*If you like that sort of thing.*
**Which I do.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:55, Reply)
 These are closer to pop punk than anything
	These are closer to pop punk than anythingFriend of mine loves them, dragged me to see them at Sonisphere, where they were superb. Have seen them since, it wasn't a one off performance, they actually are pretty damn good.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:39, Reply)
 No I'm sorry, this is the most tragically fucking shit emo wank I've ever seen
	No I'm sorry, this is the most tragically fucking shit emo wank I've ever seenwww.youtube.com/watch?v=mLqHDhF-O28
You really shouldn't support this kind of behaviour.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:38, Reply)
 No I'm sorry, THIS is the most tragically fucking shit emo wank I've ever seen
	No I'm sorry, THIS is the most tragically fucking shit emo wank I've ever seenwww.youtube.com/watch?v=aUUSz54G6jc
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:41, Reply)
 No, that video doesn't cut to a 12 year old girl in eyeliner saying "I wish there was ... no such thing as fighting"
	No, that video doesn't cut to a 12 year old girl in eyeliner saying "I wish there was ... no such thing as fighting"(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:43, Reply)
 I hadn't actually watched that video, I'll be honest
	I hadn't actually watched that video, I'll be honestI was reminded yesterday that HIM actually exist, something I'd quite happily forgotten for several years.
Here's another spectacularly emo video
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:44, Reply)
 
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I'd also like to point out I made a gold comment at the bottom of this thread, and I don't think it's even been noticed.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:46, Reply)
 I reckon B3th would enjoy the villages surrounding Cambridge.
	I reckon B3th would enjoy the villages surrounding Cambridge.Most notably Six Mile Bottom.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:31, Reply)
 I think I liked this place better when it was a load of self-contained stories and not part of an overarching narrative.
	I think I liked this place better when it was a load of self-contained stories and not part of an overarching narrative.(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:45, Reply)
 Yeah me too. It's gotten too complex for it's own good.
	Yeah me too. It's gotten too complex for it's own good.You'll never find something as good as eggy cup any more.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:51, Reply)
 Sometimes I just wish you would die
	Sometimes I just wish you would dieand other times I wish you would die in a really unpleasant and protracted manner.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:57, Reply)
 Chompy - his workstation.
	Chompy - his workstation.Pretty sure that's somewhere he doesn't spend a lot of time at.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:34, Reply)
 Rory - fat camp.
	Rory - fat camp.He'd soon rally the troops with his motivational plain speaking.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:36, Reply)
 But Lego isn't even in his top 10 favourite plastic brick based toy sets
	But Lego isn't even in his top 10 favourite plastic brick based toy sets(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:40, Reply)
 Mega Bloxs, Character Design, Chad Valley and two others that I'm not allowed to name for legal reasons
	Mega Bloxs, Character Design, Chad Valley and two others that I'm not allowed to name for legal reasons*ahem*
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:46, Reply)
 I'd like to go somewhere hot and sunny
	I'd like to go somewhere hot and sunnywith some nice food and drink and lots of breasts.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:53, Reply)
 Hey, as long as it has good food, drink and breasts, I don't mind where it is
	Hey, as long as it has good food, drink and breasts, I don't mind where it is(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:58, Reply)
 The cars I want to buy are taxed between 200 pounds and 475 pounds :(((((
	The cars I want to buy are taxed between 200 pounds and 475 pounds :((((((, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:56, Reply)
 I don't have an expensive car witha  massive engine
	I don't have an expensive car witha  massive engineI would if I could, but I can't justify it
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:05, Reply)
 If he's on the £20 tax bracket
	If he's on the £20 tax brackethe must be driving around in something pretty close to a three cylinder sub 1 litre job.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:07, Reply)
 Citroen C1 or its clones
	Citroen C1 or its clonesVW Polo diesel, Fiat 500 Twinair, couple of others,
Or go the whole zero and get a Prius
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:09, Reply)
 BMW '10 330i
	BMW '10 330i38mpg combined cycle, 200 tax, 0-60 sub-6 seconds.
I like the compromise, right there.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:16, Reply)
 Yes.
	Yes.If you drive like a retarded granny you can get it to do about 65mpg, but more realistically it gets about 50-55.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:12, Reply)
 I don't like diesels.
	I don't like diesels.Sure, they're low on CO2, but they have a bunch of other nasties that petrol doesn't. They're especially bad for particulates, I believe.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:13, Reply)
 They produce coarser particulates yes
	They produce coarser particulates yesbut actually it's the fine particulates that are more dangerous. If you can see the soot then it's aesthetically poor, but not actually particaularly bad for your health.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:16, Reply)
 Every diesel I seem to see belches thick black clouds of crap.
	Every diesel I seem to see belches thick black clouds of crap.What does it for me though is that the power's all backwards.
Power should go "waaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
Diesels don't do that.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:18, Reply)
 I was looking at a Mark2 landy mudplugger
	I was looking at a Mark2 landy mudpluggerWith a nice V8 lump in it, I don't think there is a better sound than a V8
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:21, Reply)
 4x4s should be dieseasels for the torque
	4x4s should be dieseasels for the torqueThe concept of a diesel V8 is all, all wrong.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:22, Reply)
 Depends if you regularly off road, and what sort of off-road you do
	Depends if you regularly off road, and what sort of off-road you do(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:28, Reply)
 They're great, long as you can afford the juice, they're a bit dipso.
	They're great, long as you can afford the juice, they're a bit dipso.(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:27, Reply)
 I had no intention of buying it
	I had no intention of buying itI was just looking at one, short wheel base
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:33, Reply)
 My mate used to have an old ex-police V8 Range Rover for offroading
	My mate used to have an old ex-police V8 Range Rover for offroadingTwin carbs, manual choke, between 3 and 14 mpg. On 4 star.
Would climb just about any hill though, at some speed
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:35, Reply)
 Cars are fun. People forget that.
	Cars are fun. People forget that.Small, clean, city cars are not fun.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:23, Reply)
 I'm not sure Ken Blocks Fiesta would come under Small, clean, city cars
	 I'm not sure Ken Blocks Fiesta would come under Small, clean, city carswww.youtube.com/watch?v=zGBNHukCf7s
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:35, Reply)
 they are awful for sulphur dioxide emissions
	they are awful for sulphur dioxide emissionswhich is what the merkins judge the environmentalness of a car on, thus you get few diesels in merka
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:26, Reply)
 get a car with a smaller engine then fuckwit...
	get a car with a smaller engine then fuckwit...Or get an older car where you aren't charged tax on emissions.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 14:59, Reply)
 pre-1972, yes.
	pre-1972, yes.They're mostly as slow as balls, though.
I did think about getting a mk1 Celica and putting a new engine, gearbox etc in it, but I'm pretty sure that the amount of mods I'd want to do would get it a Q plate and thus taken off the classic tax bracket.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:05, Reply)
 yeah but it doesnt change
	yeah but it doesnt changeso you can get a 6lt penis enhancer for the same price as a 1600
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:20, Reply)
 Well yes, I know
	Well yes, I knowThe insinuation seemed to be the pre'02 cars are cheaper, which isn't really true.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:21, Reply)
 I'm torn between wanting a decent turn of speed
	I'm torn between wanting a decent turn of speedand wanting a decent amount of economy.
I am on the horns of a dilemma.
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:30, Reply)
 it's a tax paid by car owners to for the upkeep of the road network
	it's a tax paid by car owners to for the upkeep of the road network(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:00, Reply)
 Really? Can you point me to any kind of official guidance on this "road tax" you speak of?
	Really? Can you point me to any kind of official guidance on this "road tax" you speak of?(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:02, Reply)
 I reckon twohats would like a hat museum, but not a room exhibiting a series of explicit photographs of his mum
	I reckon twohats would like a hat museum, but not a room exhibiting a series of explicit photographs of his mum (, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:06, Reply)
 Like so?
	Like so?www.stockport.gov.uk/services/leisureculture/visitstockport/museumsandgalleries/hatworks/
(, Tue 18 Jun 2013, 15:18, Reply)
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