right, battered's turgid turd needs to be flushed away
oscar pistorius: did he do it on purpose? will he get off?

missing plane: do we believe the latest stuff? or is the only truth the fact that various governments cannot be trusted to tell it?

conspiracies: do you believe they exist everywhere? or is the simplest explanation usually the right one?

random: what was the last thing you put in your mouth that wasn't food or drink?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:01, 98 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

so ronery
so.... yes he did, but he might well get off.

bit of both. i always thought it went down in the sea but the governments keep a lot of shite hidden.

usually the simplest one is the right answer.

a toothbrush.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:06, Reply)

Ew
Yes. Probably.
Yes. Tinfoil nutter.
No. Bit general.
YM.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:06, Reply)

Oscar:
I've seen all kinds of dishonesty in my day, but this little display takes the cake. Y'all come in here with your hearts bleedin' all over the floor about slum kids and injustice, you listen to some fairy tales, suddenly you start gettin' through to some of these old ladies... well, you're not getting through to me, I've had enough! WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU GUYS? You all know he's guilty. He's got to burn! You're letting him slip through our fingers.
Plane: Yes
Conspiricies: Bollocks
Random: My quarter bent bulldog bowl tobacco pipe
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:07, Reply)

Morning miss
I can't quite decide. Kroney mentioned about him getting his roid rage on so we will see

I think they have found it, yes. Its just working out what happened now. Suicide by pilot/decompression ala Payne Stewart/terrorism. I love a bit of conspiracy stuff, yes. I like the fact that by their definition they cannot be proven. The 9/11 stuff really was interesting. Stuff like finding molten pools of steel weeks afterward when the fires couldn't have burned that hot, etc.

Pen
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:08, Reply)

+is

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:08, Reply)

Last thing I read on it before I got bored with the whole thing
was that he used to hear things and think there was an intruder. He'd go marching around his flat with his pistol pointing it at tumble dryers etc.

The man's a stone bonker.

However, I cannot reconcile the intruder theory. I simply cannot believe that anybody, thinking there was an intruder, would fire through a closed door before calling the police. The door was locked from the inside, all he had to do was call the rozzers. Instead he fired dour times through the door. It seems more likely to me, based entirely on supposition, that they had an argument, she lcoked herself in the bog and he shot her in a rage.
( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:14, Reply)

The problem with that
Is that we don't live in the same crime environment as they do is SA, there was a rugby chap who shot his daughter thinking she was nicking the car (a good few years ago)... Crime stats in joberg are horrific and the climate is to shoot first call second
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:19, Reply)

Or maybe he just really needed a wee and she always took ages in there

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:20, Reply)

He could just keep his legs off and piss in the bidet

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:22, Reply)

He could have just pissed into the socket of his legs
like a portable urinal
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:25, Reply)

do you lock the door if you go for a piss in your own bathroom?
would mrs tangles lock it if you were home alone together?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:26, Reply)

Only when he is snorting lines from the top
he wouldn't want to share
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:26, Reply)

I usually do that off the breasts of supermodels

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:27, Reply)

We don't have a lock on our bathroom door

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:26, Reply)

i just did an epic zing on you in that last thread

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:27, Reply)

Yeah, epic.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:28, Reply)

well, ok
accurate
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:30, Reply)

Animals.

( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:27, Reply)

We don't keep animals in the house, no.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:29, Reply)

no of the rising sun
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:31, Reply)

Yeah, the gun laws are also very strict.
You're only allowed to discharge your firearm if somebody's coming at you personally and you believe your life to be in danger, neither of which are true in Pistorius' case. People don't usually murder people when they're hiding in toilets.

Unless they're Windy, of course.
( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:22, Reply)

ima call ZING

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:23, Reply)

Isnt there a defending you property law as well?

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:26, Reply)

I'm not familiar if there is
I was paraphrasing a quote from the trial I read.
( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:27, Reply)

Ol pistols
I think her probably did it on purpose but will get away with it due to the evidence. Had the prosecution gone for unlawful death they would have it bagged by now but as they went for premeditated murder they could struggle.

the missing plane thing is probably pilot related.

Conspiracies of course they exist but I would think less often than people want them to. Most of the time the simple explanation is correct.

mouthwash
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:12, Reply)

The weird thing about the plane is that NONE of the passengers managed to squeeze off a text or a call.
It went completely dark, after changing course 180 degrees, suddenly - which is very, very weird.

I think it was shot down - either by accident or deliberately, and no one wants to admit it.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:20, Reply)

Would there be a signal over the sea?

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:21, Reply)

there are phones you can use to make calls
hence the 9/11 passengers were able to make calls home.

the lack of calls here suggests that either someone was stopping them, or they were all out cold already, maybe.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:25, Reply)

Not on all planes though
I've not been on a plane with skyphones. Also, they were over land and low
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:26, Reply)

i think the fancy parts all have them
did this plane have a turn left section?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:26, Reply)

The 911 pasengers were using mobiles
AS THEY WERE FLYING LOW OVER AN INHABITED COUNTRY NOT THE MIDDLE OF ONE OF THE MOST REMOTE PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN OCEAN
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:27, Reply)

THIS^

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:30, Reply)

shut up, IT boys
lots of planes have phones in the headrests that you activate with a credit card.

SO THERE.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:30, Reply)

AND LOTS OF PLANES DONT

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:31, Reply)

Especially
ones made in 1992 for the chinese
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:32, Reply)

I think they would have made more of this in the press if no calls were made, despite every fucking seat having a telephone next to it.
So I think we can safely assume that that wasn't the case.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:09, Reply)

Doubt if you can get a mobile signal five miles up in that part of the world tbh
For me it all points to a deliberate act, turning off the transponders and having the plane "vanish" in the 10 mins dead time between two different countries air traffic controllers is too much to be a coincidence.
Question is why? A terrist would surely have screamed about it for publicity's sake by now, so maybe it's a very odd suicide by the pilot?
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:26, Reply)

I think it is pilot suicide

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:30, Reply)

Nah, mechanical failure, down under the sea before anyone knew what was going on.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:32, Reply)

But why didn't the black-box-that-goes-off-on-immediate-contact-with-water go off?
Also, wouldn't the systems have started screaming at ATC that the plane was way too low?
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:33, Reply)

Wasn't under ATC at that point, plus transponders turned off, so no screaming possible.

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:35, Reply)

Still sounds suspicious - it would have had to have gone down very bloody quickly.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:49, Reply)

It takes a fair while to fall 5 miles

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:33, Reply)

For a massive fuck off plane that can flying at 600mph?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:38, Reply)

it's not going 600mph in a straight line when it's falling, though...

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:41, Reply)

Well it ain't slowing down as it plummets towards the sea

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:41, Reply)

Any horizontal speed is likely to make it stay up longer if anything
Other than that it's terminal velocity vertical, less air resistance.
Whether making a call is your first thought while being effectively thrown around the aircraft like a rag doll along with everyone else and their luggage is another matter......
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:48, Reply)

It's not going straight down, either.
Planes are designed to fly. They want to stay in the air, their entire bodies are specifically constructed to generate as much lift as possible, they don't just drop out of the sky.
( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:49, Reply)

They're also designed to come back down again

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:50, Reply)

You idiot.

( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:50, Reply)

I'm not claiming to be an authority on aerodynamics, I just think it is plausible that a plane could come down quite quickly.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:02, Reply)

I am under no illusion that you are an authority, old bean.
The only way an aircraft with an active autopilot will come down "quite quickly" from cruising altitude is if a wing fell off.
( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:03, Reply)

We can at least agree on me being an idiot then.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:03, Reply)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft
( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:06, Reply)

they can but you would need a lot of system failures
in order for it to happen, there are back up for the back ups,
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:03, Reply)

It's almost as though they're designed to stay in the air.

( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:05, Reply)

Maybe it's still up there somewhere then?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:05, Reply)

Purposeful idiocy is still idiocy.

( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:07, Reply)

You should take comfort in the fact that I have had no hand in the design of any aeroplanes then.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:08, Reply)

what DO you do?
it's something in IT, isn't it?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:08, Reply)

It's nothing in IT

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:09, Reply)

you've got IT written all over your face

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:12, Reply)

Ok Adam Ant calm down

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:12, Reply)

Lots of comfort. Lots and lots and lots.

( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:09, Reply)

^Very soft clothes^

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:14, Reply)

Maybe on a good solid British plane, but these yellow fellows are renowned for cutting corners.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:05, Reply)

boeing is american
what do you think about them yanks?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:07, Reply)

It was a mistake to let them run their own affairs.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:09, Reply)

This is something we can agree on.
They've made a right bloody shambles of it.
( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:10, Reply)

they glide for something like 60 miles
without fuel from 25000 ft, assuming they are piloted.
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:54, Reply)

Assuming the autopilot's still active, it will attempt to maintain altitude and airspeed.
If all the control surfaces are still active, it certainly won't just drop like a brick. Without fuel it will attempt to maintain a controlled glide.

I'm agreeing with you here, by the way.
( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:58, Reply)

HOW DARE YOU AGREE WITH ME

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:01, Reply)

If all the engines simultaneously died, it's possible to glide it for up to 50 miles.
Loads of time to get a mayday off. Given that the plane was still automatically sending out engine data for hours afterwards, I think we can discount it dropping out of the sky or exploding in mid air.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:14, Reply)

This is it. Where the debris is turning up is 180 degrees from where they were going, and the act of becoming invisible has to have been a very deliberate effort.
It's all very, very weird.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:32, Reply)

i would prefer to think that something happened and the pilots changed course, trying to head for an airport
but got overwhelmed by smoke or oxygen failure or something, as did the people on board. the plane then drifted on until it ran out of fuel. it's awful but better than pre-meditated killing of 238 other people.

but then why not send some sort of distress signal? why turn off the tracking instruments, unless you thought there was a fire in those circuits, maybe?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:34, Reply)

I thought this was quite plausible
www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:38, Reply)

i also thought this
well reasoned and not just "HE'S BROWN, HE WANTED TO KILL EVERYONE".

but is the debris in the bit of water where he said it would be?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:40, Reply)

pretty much

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:52, Reply)

Jesus 'raptured' it.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:33, Reply)

I'm pretty sure a giant space spider selected it for it's tea.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:37, Reply)

don't be stupid.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:41, Reply)

Yes, and likely
I think it was shot down, and governments of the world are shitting themselves in trying to hide it.

Not a fan of conspiraces for the most part

A pen.

I've found Tangles next holiday destination
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:33, Reply)

i certainly think no government wants to come forward and admit that their air traffic control didn't spot it
it's like saying, HERE'S A BIG HOLE IN OUR DEFENCE SYSTEMS
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:36, Reply)

Also, none of them want to admit that their satellites can or can't see it
cos that's a military secret.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:41, Reply)

Holiday?
Where do you think I live?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:39, Reply)

Why would anybody shoot down a plane that was flying over trackless ocean?
They turned towards the nearest airport, were overcome before they got there and the plane carried on with autopilot until it ran out of fuel and ditched.

They haven't been able to find it yet because they're relying on defence radar which is a secret and the sea moves. It moves quite a lot. By the time they've got a ship out to where they think they saw debris, it's moved.
( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:46, Reply)

I like how he posted a tinfoil conspiracy and then went on to say he's not a fan of conspiracies

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:49, Reply)

'for the most part'

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:51, Reply)

Aviation, navigation, communication.
The pilot will have attempted to fly, find a safe landing area and then would have communicated his distress. That is the order in which pilots are trained to respond to a crisis. He could easily have been overcome by whatever happened before he got to communication.

There is a lot of stupid speculation around this crash.
( Kroney, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:01, Reply)

especially as they had spent the first week or so
looking along the original flight path. so you would get a lot of drift in that time on some of the worlds roughest oceans
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:53, Reply)

And we know more about the surface of the moon than about the oceans
Last time that part of the ocean was surveyed at all was 20 years ago.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 10:57, Reply)

Yeh he did it, yeh he'll get off
I don't know, it's all speculation at this point
Conspiracies? Occam's razor innit
My toothbrush I would imagine.
( Peej, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:21, Reply)

I think its most likely that the bermuda triange has moved due to global warming and vaccinations
and that Aliens beamed up the plane to a spaceship. The plane will land in two years time like nothing happened and everyone will be confused.
( Peej, Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:23, Reply)