A serious question.
Are you finding it just a tad boring now we have been joined by some /talk loving b3tans? I can remember when all this was erudite and replies were longer and a good bit more interesting. If I wanted to read\enjoy a /talk type of exchange I will go there.
Just to quote: Are you a QOTWer? Do you want to start a thread that isn't a direct answer to the current QOTW? Then this place, gentle poster, is your friend.

I welcome any contributor with open eyes, but really, couldn't we have just a little more effort? Hm?
.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:31, 137 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

I take this as a personal attack
I want some qotwers to come on my side of this argument.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:33, Reply)

He has a point.
This place is becoming more like /talk every day.
( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:35, Reply)

It wasn't meant as one.
More of an observation. I do find the occasional oneliners quite the distraction to be honest. But not when they are filling most of the OT. Defeats the object I think.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:35, Reply)

Do you want me to put more line breaks in my posts?



Or

use an irrationaly large number of irrelevent, pointless, annoying multi sylable words because I like the sound of my own typing?

oh and sub Chalie Brooker extended metaphors about sex/bodily functions?

qotw has always been shit, have a look at the archive.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:40, Reply)

this

( WormuIus, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:44, Reply)

Then why are you here?
.
( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:44, Reply)

I like talking to people online,
I answer anything that interests me.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:45, Reply)

But according to you, we aren't interesting.

( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:48, Reply)

fucking hell you're hard work
STOP BEING DULL AND WEIRD
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:49, Reply)

She is a bit

( WormuIus, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:51, Reply)

I may be dull and wierd but I'm not a prick.
It's a simple question which you seem to be unable to answer. Shall I answer it for you?


Well, howabout you like to come to OT and pretend that your fucking funny and that we will actually find anything you say interesting.

Will that do?
( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:56, Reply)

This

( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:57, Reply)

+ 're

( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:58, Reply)

Please ignore me,
I can't be bothered
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:00, Reply)

Please ignore me.
I can't be bothered I can't think of a witty retort.
( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:03, Reply)

This thread makes me :(

( WormuIus, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:06, Reply)

no, what I was doing there was trying not to get in an argument with you.
Stop moaning about offtopic when from what I can remember you contribute nothing. I don't think I've ever laughed at any of your posts and this whiney fucking tone you're taking is pathetic.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:09, Reply)

GO FOR THE THROAT

( WormuIus, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:13, Reply)

I thought we were ignoring each other?

( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:14, Reply)

I got to be honest, QOTW isn't my cup of tea eaither.
I really like OT, esspecialy now I've meet a lot of you, but I find that QOTW quite.... dull isn't the right word, but it doesn't titilate my interests. I really find it hard to get into Online Group Theorpy Sessions, esspeicaly now I meet people face to face. It's not that I'm against them per-say, just that it's not for me. I admire those who can do that though, but I feel sorry for them at the same time, as it tends to get drowned out by bragging. Almost like "I had Personal Tragady X" then someone else coming up with "I had Personal Tragady X more'er". I would also feel quite gutted if I spilt my guts and didn't get a reply.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:08, Reply)

I don't consider here and the rest of QOTW the same though.
Sure, the URL and the posting format is the same, but in reality they're very different kettles of crisps (wait, is that expresion right?).
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:09, Reply)

I pretty much always read the Newslettered ones though, and they never fail to raise a smile.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:10, Reply)

that and /talk are bullies
b3ta.com/talk/popular/
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:48, Reply)

"Psychochomp is shit."?
I clicked that.
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:49, Reply)

it's my own fault,

(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:50, Reply)

You sure it's not genetic?
You could blame your parents then.
They never understood you.
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:51, Reply)

I was hatched from an egg on a moutain top.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:54, Reply)

Shut it,
Eagle-boy.
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:54, Reply)

Someone needs to say it:
Man the Fuck Up and don't be so scared.
(MichaelS wasn't picked again, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:00, Reply)

don't be silly
I even clicked it myself.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:01, Reply)

I just laughed at my own post
b3ta.com/talk/6198423
( WormuIus, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:50, Reply)

not surprised
that is pretty funny.
who was it aimed at? or doesn't it matter
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:52, Reply)

It was aimed at Mykeyboy

( WormuIus, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:53, Reply)

you would have been able to work it out by following the link to the original post.

( WormuIus, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:53, Reply)

I don't have time for that sort of thing
I'm a very busy man. I need people to tell me things.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:54, Reply)

Mykey surely.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:55, Reply)

I don't like /talk therefore I don't visit that board.
Surely the same would apply for /talk members.
( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:50, Reply)

I can't agree with this
QOTW is what's brought a lot of people to B3ta, it's funny almost every week, granted it's not had a lot of scope for major funny lately, but you can bet your bottom dollar that it will be again in the future.
(Herr Doktor Lemminge Is bored, so cheer me up!, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:56, Reply)

Hear here!

(Is this a good idea? ... Yes this is definitely a good idea, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:01, Reply)

Ok I retract the blanket statement that qotw is always shit,
I stand by the rest of it though.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:03, Reply)

Certainly funnier than the 3 types of thread you get on /talk
1) "What did you have for lunch" thread.
2) "JMG looking for attention and adulation" thread.
3) "Wormulus looking for attention and adulation" thread.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:04, Reply)

What?
Where did the idea that I seek internet attention come from?
I've never understood it.
( WormuIus, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:07, Reply)

I always found it a tad boring.
I'm only here because I've exhausted all other forms of procrastination.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:35, Reply)

You fucking love us and you know it.

( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:36, Reply)

Take away the "it"
and rearrange the sentence to say "You love fucking and you know us."

Aye, that's about right.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:38, Reply)

I think it got less boring since the abolition of the Home Sweet Home threads

(Bazongaloid, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:41, Reply)

The home sweet home threads never went away you damn fools.
They just morphed into something else.
( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:43, Reply)

I agree!
*tootles off to find cable that he forgot about and will send GAZ in a 5 minutes*
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:44, Reply)

ok then

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:38, Reply)

COMEDY GOLD, RIGHT HERE.
VALIDATE MEEEEE
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:48, Reply)

wanker
how does that rock your cum stained socks?
( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:39, Reply)

Proves my point I think.
Spunk trench. ; )
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:43, Reply)

I certainly see where you are coming from
nested replies is part of the cause I think (not saying I don't like them)

I think that things just change though. last few days, and particularly today have seen some topics that don't require long answers. when one comes up then there will be some.
It seems to me that we are gradually turning some /talkers into real people, rather than lolinternetbullies ;-)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:39, Reply)

fuck off

(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:41, Reply)

no, you fuck off
or I'll round up the B3NP (see what I did there) and have you deported
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:46, Reply)

Impossible.
Once an internet bully, always an internet bully. Well until they grow up and drop em.
( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:42, Reply)

Or until you drive your Honda Accord into them

( WormuIus, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:43, Reply)

Give me your lunch money and all your pokemon cards.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:44, Reply)

I like how this was posted above a Piston Broke post
for added weight.
( WormuIus, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:43, Reply)

When I clicked on Piston's link
I was half expecting him to have written the story.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:47, Reply)

this,

(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:24, Reply)

All I know
Is that I'm amazing. And you're all lucky that I'm still here.
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:44, Reply)

Seriously, I want to know.
If qotw and OT is so shit then why do you come here?
( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:46, Reply)

I heard there would be cheese and pineapple on a stick
=(((
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:49, Reply)

We lied.
Sorry!
( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:51, Reply)

Why would someone do that to me?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:56, Reply)

I think we're being asked to leave, Gonz :'(

( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:53, Reply)

I won't join any club that'll have me as a member.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:57, Reply)

Nooo!
(before you ask, green today with a red seam)
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:36, Reply)

fucking SCORE

( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:46, Reply)

There's cheese,
but you've got to bring your own stick.
(MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:57, Reply)

What I want to know,
Is that why, instead of moaning they don't like it, don't people DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:47, Reply)

like your mother
she was moaning. I was certainly doing something about it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:49, Reply)

Excuse me,
This was a serious question.
It needs serious answers.
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:50, Reply)

it is a good question
not one aimed at me though, because I do stuff!
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:53, Reply)

Yeah, you do.
Like post shit :p
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:54, Reply)

welcome to b3ta
let me show you around
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:55, Reply)

I don't think they're ready for
The Royal Tour yet.
I'll take my crown off.
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:59, Reply)

shut up or I'll slap you about
*grumbles*
( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:50, Reply)

I'm trying (very).
That's why I posed this as a question in the hope (realised!) that it would provoke some debate. I don't expect it to be a polarising moment in B3ta history. Just more diverting than a series of nested one liners that would be more at home in /talk.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:51, Reply)

*channels Janis Joplin*
Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Honda Accord?
I'm bullied by /talkers, I'm too shit for /board
Vengeance and justice will be my reward -
So Lord, won't you buy me a Honda Accord?
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:50, Reply)

^now this is good internet

(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:52, Reply)

I concur
it needs to be shared with a wider audience
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:53, Reply)

clickin dis
for all the good it will do.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:52, Reply)

I wish we could do something other than click

It's so weedy, could we not smash, punch or cunt this.

This feels more appropriate.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:55, Reply)

Oh Lord, why did you buy Di, a mer-ca-diez benz.
Her driver was too drunk, couldn't make the bends.
She was with a farzi, chased by the paparazi, and now she is dead.
So oh lord why did you buy di, a mer-ca-diez benz.

I wanted to do something about the mercaidiez and the failed bombing outside Tigar Tigar, but I failed on that one.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:55, Reply)

What I've noticed
Is that this last week OT just seems to have becoame another /talk. We've had whole days where all that has happened is that people are insulting one another.

I'm not saying that this didn't happen before, it just didn't happen on such a large scale.

I can't say that it's the /talkers that have caused this, there are a few who have joined us in a non /talk way. It seems to be some of the regulars who have started this trend.
(Herr Doktor Lemminge Is bored, so cheer me up!, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:51, Reply)

Lets be honest you're all a bunch of freaks and geeks

Which is why you post on a forum like this instead of talking to real people.

This does not count during office hours.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:54, Reply)

See that's where you've gone wrong
We're a close knit community here, and we all have lives outside of this place as well.
(Herr Doktor Lemminge Is bored, so cheer me up!, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:57, Reply)

Maybe

meeting other B3ta people doesn't count, that's just 3d internet
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:00, Reply)

I wasn't talking about bashes
Or just meeting up with other B3tans.
(Herr Doktor Lemminge Is bored, so cheer me up!, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:04, Reply)

exactly.
Oh Lord, won't you send me a girl for some sex?
The ones in the real world are highly complex
I'll just yell "surprise" if she cries and objects
So Lord, won't you send me a girl for some sex?
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:01, Reply)

Cock of the bay
typing on the internet,
calling fluff with pics of my pet,
typing on the internet,
wasting my li-ii-ife
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:03, Reply)

Don't need a fitional character to do that
I found one all by myself, in the real world!
(Herr Doktor Lemminge Is bored, so cheer me up!, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:09, Reply)

It's a reaction to the dull as shit HSH threads that populated this place for so long
It's more fun to imaginatively insult someone than to give them internet hugs and cups of tea.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:59, Reply)

keyword being "imaginatively"
there's a fine line, and often the insults get just as dull as tea and hugs
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:01, Reply)

But
As I see it a lot of the insulting isn't all that imaginative, and I don't insult people for no reason, I just see no point in it.
(Herr Doktor Lemminge Is bored, so cheer me up!, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:02, Reply)

I corrected your limerick for you

( WormuIus, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:52, Reply)

Not at all, I welcome the influx of /talk posters
But then I post on all of the boards, so know that all of the boards are set up differently and have different characteristics.

I think this board benefits through having a wider variety of posters.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:56, Reply)

If the boards are used by all B3tans then you just get an homogonized website with no difference in any of the boards.

( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:01, Reply)

I hope you've ignored me by now,
because
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
ffs, it's what you make of it you should have your own board where you spread misery.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:05, Reply)

I concur, its getting boring here.
Can we get the moderators to start an Off Off topic board?
(MichaelS wasn't picked again, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:07, Reply)

^This

( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:11, Reply)

you should password protect it as well,
just so noone you don't like can post.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:12, Reply)

I think I might start sending gazzes to myself instead
or start a board of my own like the top secret wormulus forum
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:22, Reply)

Surely
It should be the Way Off Topic Board!
(Herr Doktor Lemminge Is bored, so cheer me up!, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:18, Reply)

Threads on offtopic
That are less than a couple of lines. Are shit.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:57, Reply)

Fuck me
Another Off Topic self-examination thread.

If you don't like something, don't fucking read it.

Simples.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 14:59, Reply)

do you find something wrong with constant navel gazing?
hmm
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:01, Reply)

Not as such
But regularly saying 'OT should be like this' and
'I don't like that about OT' completely pointless.

This place, like all the boards, is what its posters make it.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:05, Reply)

Thank you :)

( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:07, Reply)

it's shit because of you Kaol
you and only you.

you fucking bastard.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:08, Reply)

And me.
I'm proud of being shit.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:10, Reply)

That's quite a claim.
I like it.
Really swells my ego to think that.
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:12, Reply)

all publicity is good publicity sort of thing?
glad to help
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:13, Reply)

Exactly!
The only downside to this whole Kaoltard thing is that when I search for my name, a bunch of people's sigs show up, and I think that they've been talking about me loads.
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:16, Reply)

heh
how did that came about btw?
just appeared out of the blue as far as I could tell
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:19, Reply)

Odd, isn't it?
Every time I search for posts about hammers, you pop up. It's most frustrating.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:20, Reply)

Actually, no.
Contribute more interesting threads.

Simpler.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:02, Reply)

how interesting can people get?
really, it's all the fucking same, anything that can be said has probably been said before
( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:04, Reply)

I know
Which is why bitching about it is pointless.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:07, Reply)

Right I'm off folks.
I'm going to go and spread some misery at the gym.

Ta ta.
( girlinthehole, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:12, Reply)

Bye bye beegee!

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:14, Reply)

I just don't care any more.
I remember when B3ta was, you know, a bit of fun. Suddenly, all of these self-appointed defenders of what B3ta is 'about' started bleating on about they are somehow superior to other people. You're not, and I hope that you realise that really soon. I, like a few others, try and post on all the boards, and I've met people from /board, /qotw and /talk. I have, I admit, got involved in a few slanging matches in the past, but then I realised I was being a prick and I got on with my life.

There are wankers everywhere, in whatever walk of life - you seem to forget that QOTW has a few of 'em as well. Once again, B3ta is free, and instead of bitching about the content maybe you should try attempting to raise the bar.

Crikey, the way some of you bang on it's no wonder people think QOTW is a pile of wank and shit.

But I still enjoy it

/end rant.
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:43, Reply)

Haha YES!
The voice of reason. I wanna sex you up.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:44, Reply)

This.
Exactly what I said, but with more words.
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:46, Reply)

that is soooooo qotw
but yes I agree with dit he talks sense.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:50, Reply)

He does indeed
And I shall give him a big sloppy kiss manly pat on the back when I hopefully see him next Saturday.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:51, Reply)

I'm probably going to that,
I'll be shunned.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:57, Reply)

No way, man.
No way. Not on my watch.
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:58, Reply)

Ooh
Internet Hardmanning. It's new on me.
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:59, Reply)

Ooooh,
Sexy.
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:59, Reply)

No way
You shall be welcomed with open arms, an open mind, and a greeting of "alright, you cunt, what're you drinking"?
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Fri 5 Jun 2009, 16:00, Reply)

I said
"What I want to know is that why, instead of moaning they don't like it, don't people DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?"
But yeah, DiT is awesome. And looks a bit like you. If you weren't a girl.
( Cawl, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:51, Reply)

I'm not a girl
You sadden me with your gender myopia :(
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:57, Reply)

Perhaps limiting their B3ta time to just 2 hours a day

Rather than all day and all night, might make things seem more special!
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 15:53, Reply)

Wow!
If only there was some kind of search function on the internet so you could find things that interest you. Then people wouldn't have to constantly view something they don't even like!
(Dangerous Disco Trev Isn't my real name, Fri 5 Jun 2009, 16:27, Reply)