To get the debate going
I find that, in general, people who ride motorbikes drive pretty dangerously, especially on motorways when they have a habit of weaving in and out of traffic. Consequently I don't have a lot of sympathy for motorcyclists who get clipped by cars. Discuss.

Or alternatively, I like scones just with butter (or margarine). How do you like scones?
(Bazongaloid, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:24, archived)

I like my scones like I like my motorcyclists.
In my mouth.
( Edd: The Unfunny Try-Hard Edgelord, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:26, archived)

And wrapped in leather.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:26, archived)

And with a hard, shiny helmet.
/i feel a bit sick
( RR I love you ... in a way, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:35, archived)

I have some spam
Will anyone read it if I post it here?
( WormuIus, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:36, archived)

No
unless it involes your cock
(Bazongaloid, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:38, archived)

I used to ride, and I've dated several bikers.
My ex had crashed twice, and both times it was the fault of the teenage girl driving the car he argued with.*

I find that car drivers tend to drive with less care and attention, possibly because of the relatively safe environment they're in.

With lashings of butter and jam.



*Having said that, I also know a chap who's crashed about 6 times in 4 years, and he refuses to admit defeat and get a car. Bloody danger to other road users.
( Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:26, archived)

I'm sure that there are probably equal numbers of bad car
and bike drivers, but surely the person who drives the extremely vulnerable vehicle which only needs a minor tap when going at 90mph to cause instant death shouldn't be the one cutting into the inside lane to go past someone.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:30, archived)

There's cunts everywhere, Holmes.
Power rangers tend to ride like knobheads, but that's just bike pricks (99% of R1 riders, for instance).
( Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:31, archived)

there are people out there who ride motorbikes badly, yes
also, i imagine that you notice them more than people who ride them well, for obvious reasons.

i like the full works on a scone. also cheese scones with philadelphia and pickle. mmm.
( manolith hooray for me, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:27, archived)

dunno about motorcyclists but I have a lot of experience as a cyclist
and I find that generally cyclists are treated like crap by car drivers.
I get honked at for having the audacity to cycle ON THE ROAD OH NOES!
( VampireMonkeyOnSpeed a super sexy sexual sex terrorist sex, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:29, archived)

people overtake much too close when you're on a bicycle too
bastards
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:30, archived)

Very much yes
especially some of the rich commuter tosspieces round here.
( Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:35, archived)

I've found men in transit vans to be the worst

( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:37, archived)

mind you anyone driving an executive car can also be relied on to think they're going somewhere very important
and so to overtake badly.
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:39, archived)

'rich commuter tosspieces'

( Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:39, archived)

This is why I drive a little Renault Clio

( Maximinimus you stick around I'll make it worth your while, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:42, archived)

They always, always are.
I used to have to walk to work via a road that had no paths, so I kept on the verge as much as I could, walked facing traffic etc.

There was one cunt that used to take that road, in his transit van, and try and play chicken with me.

Yes I said walk. Yes I said van.
( Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:39, archived)

fuckers
I assume most of them have micropenises that do not satisfy their trophy wives/girlfriends.
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:42, archived)

Just ill-bred, badly raised peasants.

( Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:44, archived)

With jam and clotted cream.
and the same for the scones question.
( theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:29, archived)

Cherry scones with jam
or cheese scones with cheese on. OM NOM NOM
( Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:29, archived)

AND PICKLE

( manolith hooray for me, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:32, archived)

The baker down the road makes cheese and bacon scones.
I'm determined to try one soon.
( Maffers I flow kinda strange like Spina Bifida footprints, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:34, archived)

:O

( manolith hooray for me, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:36, archived)

I might make some of those at the weekend.

( Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:38, archived)

>:O

( manolith hooray for me, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:56, archived)

If you drive properly
i.e. in the centre of the road, be defensive, always assume cars are not going to notice you so make yourself visible, then you shouldn't get clipped.
Unfortunately, car drivers don't pay attention and some riders drive dangerously because they're on a machine that can.
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:30, archived)

this
100%. I wanna get a new bike, my last one got, erm, damaged.....
(Goatse not a comedy account, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:32, archived)

I had one delivered yesterday
:)
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:35, archived)

ooooooooo
what is it!?
(Goatse not a comedy account, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:41, archived)

suzuki maruader 125
I just passed my CBT, see. It was sitting in a garage for months so needed a lot of fiddling and playing with the choke to get it going. Needs riding, or a service. Fucking lovely though :) What did you have?
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:43, archived)

last bike was an er5
it hit some traffic lights, luckily I slid right past...
(Goatse not a comedy account, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:46, archived)

ooh, very nice
bet that was painful, to be in and on the wallet...
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:50, archived)

nothing wrong with weaving
as long as you are aware of what is around you which is one thing you get a really good appreciation of as a bike rider. if everyone had to learn to ride a motorbike it would make roads safer, I think I am a more aware car driver as a result of learning to ride a motorbike.

scones are shit, too dense and claggy.......
(Goatse not a comedy account, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:31, archived)

You can be as aware as you like on the bike
but if the car driver isn't expecting you to be coming up the inside fast, then you're still getting knocked off aren't you.

I will say that I know that many car drivers are totally unaware of their surroundings and they annoy me too, but at least if you get bumped in a car by another car, there is much less chance of death.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:34, archived)

meh, it's worth it for the buzz

(Goatse not a comedy account, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:40, archived)

discuss your lack of sympathy? i'd rather not to be honest
not with the bad news i've just had....
( mongychops, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:33, archived)

MARGARINE?

( LimeyTreat Bitch. Lover. Child. Mother. Sinner. Saint., Wed 13 May 2009, 9:34, archived)

Well okay, not your actual marg
but Flora spread or something similar. I prefer butter, but flora will do.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:36, archived)

Having got a motorbike myself...
...I'd say that really it's a bit of both. Seen some terrible biking on the roads, and don't understand why they feel the need to do it. Filtering down the lanes between stationary traffic is ok, but weaving in and out of moving traffic is just stupid.

There's a biker who visits someone on my road who cranks it up on his way out - an R6 hitting the limit in first gear is travelling considering it's a 30 zone. Hope the karma he deserves heads his way.
(BombayMick Dogs are better than cats, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:36, archived)

having dealt with thousands of motorbike accidents, and a fair few of those involving horrendous injuries to the biker
I can honestly say that the cases where the biker is to blame are extremely rare.

Car drivers just do not keep an eye out for them.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 13 May 2009, 9:37, archived)

Too true!
Having mopped a few up myself, I'd agree.
(BombayMick Dogs are better than cats, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:39, archived)

The thing is that people that own something that is little more than a huge engine on wheels
will tend to drive them like bit of a cunt, I'm sure they're tremendous fun to ride when you're not flying off them though.
( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:37, archived)

They're bloody good fun.
Though I prefer to keep the wheels on the ground and my arse on the seat.
(BombayMick Dogs are better than cats, Wed 13 May 2009, 9:39, archived)