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# we're doing a sponsored image challenge this week
ask me questions
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:08, archived)
# Why did the fly?
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:09, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:09, archived)
# are there prizes?
(benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:09, archived)
# yes - the winner will get their electricity bill paid for a year to about £500
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:11, archived)
# What if we don't have an electricity?
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:12, archived)
# I dunno
you can get your mums bill paid maybe?
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:12, archived)
# fuck that
I want a good prize..if it's an electricity company they can dig deep into their fat pockets

(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:12, archived)
# initiate rebellion in 5, 4, 3, 2....
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:15, archived)
# *pzzzt*

(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:15, archived)
# well they don't have big fat pockets
they are a small company that adds a few wind turbines to the national grid that started with a wind turbine used to power an old army truck.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:15, archived)
# then I want a wind turbine as a prize,
so I can glue bread to it just to piss off the local pigeon fanciers

and if we win do we have to change to their electricity just to spend it?
(there's always a catch with these cnuts)

(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:18, archived)
# Oh, that's highly skilled bad-bastarding!
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:19, archived)
# *waits for them to perch*


START THE FANS PLEASE!!!

(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:22, archived)
# did you know the production costs, energy used, pollution released and maintenance for turbines and solar power
currently outweigh any benefits they can provide.
The reason for companies pushing them is because they get grants and subsidies from governments wanting to appear to be eco friendly.

nPower are currently throwing lots of money to get a massive windfarm behind our house so we've done a lot of research :(
It would be ironic if I entered this challenge and won.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:19, archived)
# yeah I know there's lots of conflicted messages on this issue
I have no problem with you entering your views into the challenge and if you win - you win.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:22, archived)
# So...will they select the winner
or us?
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:23, archived)
# And what will they do with the images?
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:23, archived)
# paint them on the turbine blades
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:25, archived)
# !!!!
POV LEDs on a wind turbine displaying b3ta
That would be wonderful

ed. bindun:
hackaday.com/2009/12/02/worlds-largest-pov-display/
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:27, archived)
# dunno
just trying to find out

EDIT: Ecotricity pick the winner. You can vote of course, but the prize goes to one picked by them.

Also ecotricity aren't going to do anything with the images - they are sill yours etc. It's not a cheapo way of getting stuff for a poster campaign.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:30, archived)
# My click can be bought for a reasonable fee
(I helped save b3ta! Tribs 🦇 ↓ dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥʇ ↓🦇, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:22, archived)
# Certainly true for PV solar,
but my understanding is that wind and non-PV solar this is not true.
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:23, archived)
# The one planned behind us (8 turbines 125m tall)
would require various roads to be rebuilt and the turbines to be transported across the country from where they are made in Wales.
They would not be able to be active all the time not just due to wind dropping, but also excessive winds in the area, estimates put them at 30% efficiency (which is the national average I think).
Plus the usual concrete pollutants, 20 year MAX lifespan, untested engines, etc. And then you start considering environmental issues like wildlife killed (turbines kill bats not through collision but air pressure changes crushing their ribcages) and peoples lives disrupted my house would be less than a km from the first turbine, someone elses about a quarter of a km.
They are money grabbing cnuts. making a quick buck before the laws are changes to a 2m minimum distance from homes (like there is in Europe) which would cancel something like 80% of current proposed windfarms onland. Oh and they want to do these onland ones because its cheaper for them even though the wind levels/energy produced is massively less than at sea. See they couldn't give a fuck about energy production, they just want that subsidy. Rargh! Rant! happytoast has gone off on one again, get the tranquiliser gun.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:34, archived)
# The cnuts!
(I helped save b3ta! Zak McFlimby Twibbling @McFlimby, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:45, archived)
# You are such a NIMBY!
You and your educated ways and facts and things.
(I helped save b3ta! Tribs 🦇 ↓ dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥʇ ↓🦇, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:48, archived)
# personally, I quite like them.
Theyre not perfect now but they are a relatively new technology which, if we start developing them now, have the potential to significantly lower the amount of fossil fuels we use.
(benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:52, archived)
# Neuclear power is my fave
(I helped save b3ta! Jamnog Sardines in her eyebrows, lobsters up and down, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:27, archived)
# Outweigh how? Cost during production shouldn't be that much of an issue.
Do turbines and solar plants produce pollution? Or do you mean during manufactor/building? And if you do, do they produce more than during the building of a coal/gas/whatever plant?
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:30, archived)
# I would love them to be the solution I really would
and wouldn't mind seeing them out my window all the time.
But there's just too many problems with them right now.
Sticking them out to sea is an improvement because at least you get a much better level of consistent wind to make them worth the negatives.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:37, archived)
# I quite like the look of turbines.
I hear they're bastard noisey though.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:47, archived)
# that's what scares me
the sound reports that the power firms are using are at least 10 years out of date, they are pushing through turbines based on audio data of designs a 10th of the modern sizes.

Plus the "acceptable" level of noise is the same as a town high street during rush hour. The thing is, even high streets don't have rush hour 24 hours a day, villages with no through traffic have it even less :(
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 16:03, archived)
# PV is a mess
The plants that build the PV cells have been dumping all the nasty
chemicals used in silicone doping in rivers in China. the PV cells have
finite lifespans of around 20 years; not long enough for them to make
enough energy to cover their production (or purchase!) costs.

Wind has problems, but isn't half so bad.
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:37, archived)
# not as much research as the two academic doctors
who i share an office with i am willing to bet!

although they would say 'it depends' rather than make a definite statement.

fwiw, it's surely a stepping stone thing, even if for now they are carbon positive, the cultural shift is to be encouraged, as only through uptake will systematic efficiencies be developed.....

and on a more basic level, the farm i am selling my paintings at this weekend have a turbine that provides enough energy that it has recovered it's cash costs in 6 years.
(I helped save b3ta! moke a man, a plan, a canal, panama!, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:38, archived)
# Blimey! Good Prize, but..
Isn't it a little ironic that the prize will allow you to waste as much 'leccy as you want for a year...
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:13, archived)
# ha ha
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:13, archived)
# Hahahahah
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:14, archived)
# :D
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:14, archived)
# you could charge your neighbours to run extension cables to their houses
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:14, archived)
# You could heat your garden all year round with thirty 3-bar heaters
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:15, archived)
# *nods*
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:14, archived)
# arf
(I helped save b3ta! DogHorse plop, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:15, archived)
# can they just send the money
so I can buy drugs with it.
I am in constant pain and am worried that the doctor will stop prescribing Diazepam so need to prepare to buy it on the black market
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:14, archived)
# dress up as a cat/dog/llama
and get taken to the vets. They'll give you anything as long as its paid for
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:15, archived)
# Triazipan ftw!

(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:25, archived)
# Try Marzipan!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:26, archived)
# Why the long face?
(I helped save b3ta! Jamnog Sardines in her eyebrows, lobsters up and down, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:09, archived)
# I am a horse
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:12, archived)
# *Applies rosette*
(I helped save b3ta! Jamnog Sardines in her eyebrows, lobsters up and down, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:15, archived)
# YES?
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:10, archived)
# is it football related
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:10, archived)
# tsk
only questions with a question-mark will be accepted . . .

'allo Toasty!


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:11, archived)
# maybe I didn't want him to answer it ;)
'allo Aunty Grampa
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:13, archived)
# Bah!
II
V

He answered it anyway!


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:16, archived)
# No
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:13, archived)
# am it true we all came from stars?
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:10, archived)
# Yes
Freddie Starr
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:14, archived)
# can I put my hand in one
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:10, archived)
# Daddy or chips?


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:10, archived)
# I like chips a lot but I'm on a diet
so I'll go for Daddy. As eating my dad would make me vomit - more weight loss.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:33, archived)
# once, twice or three times a lady?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:10, archived)
# Depends.....
on how much you pay I guess.
(I helped save b3ta! The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:11, archived)
# That's one fat lady
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:34, archived)
# I hope it's worth it
is it?
(asciifaceofbob bob bob bob bob bob bob bob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:10, archived)
# Were you in Vortin's diamond warehouse on the night of the 14th?
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:11, archived)
# inny or outy?
(I helped save b3ta! hekim 66 ɐʇƐ𐐒 ʞɔnℲ uooW, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:11, archived)
# I have an outy belly button
and an inny cock
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:16, archived)
# Was growing a hitler moustache as funny as you thought it would be?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:11, archived)
# it was small gingery and I didn't look much like hitler
more a paedophile
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:20, archived)
# If whatever will be will be, what about wasps?
(I helped save b3ta! edjogs Collared doves are shit., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:11, archived)
# Do they know what happened last time.....
...and the time before?
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:11, archived)
# ^
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:14, archived)
# I have told them about Virgin
but they are keen - it puzzles me too
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:20, archived)
# Either they have a b3tan insider
or want to be 'edgy'.
or something else.
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:25, archived)
# I think the problem with Virgin was everyone hates them.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:25, archived)
# I think the problem was that Branson had only just stopped having nightmares about being chained to a radiator and pissed on by rob
and the challenge brought it all back.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:28, archived)
# I think
you're remembering this wrong
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:32, archived)
# I am indeed
my memory is not what it once was. carry on.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:34, archived)
# Know anyone good in the Central Belt who can replace my kitchen?
(I helped save b3ta! Tribs 🦇 ↓ dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥʇ ↓🦇, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:11, archived)
# What's it of?
(I helped save b3ta! Ninj, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:12, archived)
# Would they be open to rainbow dinosaurs?
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:12, archived)
# Goddamnit.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:15, archived)
# I'm a one trick pony.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:19, archived)
# Can you point on the doll where the bad man touched you?
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:12, archived)
# fancy a pint?
(I helped save b3ta! DogHorse plop, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:13, archived)
# ok
are you in London?
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:35, archived)
# Unfortunately no*
I was just repeating Ben Wheatley's reply to the "what's the best question we could ask" question.

*living near Grantham now, so it's just an hour into Kings Cross, hoorah!
(I helped save b3ta! DogHorse plop, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 16:03, archived)
# why can't they invent a kind of electricity tablet that you just add water too?
can they get me a cheaper deal on my car insurance?
what really happened to the dinosaurs?
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:13, archived)
# dehydroelectric power.
Good idea.
(I helped save b3ta! DogHorse plop, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:14, archived)
# Until you forget and leave one in the pocket of the trousers you just put in the washing machine!
(I helped save b3ta! The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:16, archived)
# FIZZY FUN!
the ladies will lurve that one on spin cycle
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:17, archived)
# Washing machine eats electric,
so maybe that's what you'd do anyway.
(I helped save b3ta! DogHorse plop, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:18, archived)
# I can answer that last one
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:15, archived)
# what happens when he sleeps?
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:18, archived)
# Ice ages.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:20, archived)
# YES IT DOES!
clever
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:22, archived)
# Why are you such a sell-out?
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:14, archived)
# IT'S DOG EAT DOG OUT THERE MAN!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:18, archived)
# because if I didn't do the occasional commercial sponsorship thing
I wouldn't be able to afford to put the time in it takes to run the site
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:19, archived)
# No no no that isn't wacky and/or crazy. Be more wacky and/or crazy.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:20, archived)
# "Molicare air active" dont buy themselves you know
(I helped save b3ta! Jamnog Sardines in her eyebrows, lobsters up and down, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:19, archived)
# I would be a much, much, much bigger sellout than Rob
If I owned b3ta
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:21, archived)
# All you have to do is ride Richard Branson.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:23, archived)
# my attitude is to let stuff in a bit
but don't hammer it so that there's still a website worth visiting.

Always thought I'd completely alienate the core members if it was sponsored this and that every week.

But it's also possible that I worry about nothing and a complete sell out would mean I had a much better life and B. B3ta would be loads better as I could afford to develop it more etc.

Who knows?
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:26, archived)
# You know I was kidding, champ.
Here, I'll change my question to:

Do you iron your t-shirts once you've washed them, or just let them dry and fold them?

PLS ANSWER QUICK OMG.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:28, archived)
# It's great as it is.
Except maybe the borken search function...
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:32, archived)
# How is babby made?
(I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:15, archived)
# babby made from assembled parts of other babbys
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:17, archived)
# what's the challenge going to be then?
are they as shite as VoteForAChange?
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:23, archived)
# it's going to be quicker
it's a week long challenge - that I promise!
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:32, archived)
# How many bushels in a quart?
(I helped save b3ta! Captn Hood-Butter is not dead yet., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:24, archived)
# I predict 10,000
pictures of vuvuzelas powering turbines.
(I helped save b3ta! DogHorse plop, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:25, archived)
# oh god NO
(benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:26, archived)
# *closes photoshop without saving*
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:27, archived)
# Who put the bump in the bump-a-lump-a-lump?
What is the difference between a duck?

Why are the clouds?

Can it be milked?

Is the Categorical Imperative the supreme principle of all morality?
(I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:33, archived)
# Are you my mummy?

(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:53, archived)
# Could you please send me your favourite dvd?
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 16:14, archived)
# Is six billion people too much or not enough.
(I helped save b3ta! cowcat Bituminous squeegee, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 16:42, archived)
# Yes.
(I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 16 Jun 2010, 20:05, archived)