
Sorry no fluffiness & no pic. Trying not to a) get stupidly pissed off and b) make this tl;dr.
At what point does b3ta make a user so utterly shit that they email a fellow user (me) and call them unpleasant names for no good reason?
This user has been nasty to me from the moment I joined. I got so fed up of it a few days ago I went to glassco.cx to find the posts he'd been nasty to me on. Every single time he'd gone back and deleted the abuse! So I can't do anything about it.
Sorry, but it stops being board pedantry when I get emails like this.
Sorry everyone. But am rather hacked off.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:14,
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At what point does b3ta make a user so utterly shit that they email a fellow user (me) and call them unpleasant names for no good reason?
This user has been nasty to me from the moment I joined. I got so fed up of it a few days ago I went to glassco.cx to find the posts he'd been nasty to me on. Every single time he'd gone back and deleted the abuse! So I can't do anything about it.
Sorry, but it stops being board pedantry when I get emails like this.
Sorry everyone. But am rather hacked off.

I just want to know if there's anything I can do - I mean obviously ignore, but how in hell did he get my private email I'll never know.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:16,
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I remember you gave me your MSN account a while back, cos I was chattin to you on it. Maybe he got it then.
And if someones ripping into you for no reason, then us ripping backon here is perfectly justified.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17,
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And if someones ripping into you for no reason, then us ripping backon here is perfectly justified.

What freaks me is that my actual email addy is my full name, which I never disclose on the net.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:20,
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and all my work mails route to there. Gah.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:24,
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the one who's harrassed you here?
maybe in some twisted way, he likes you, and this is the only way he knows how to deal with it.
...this just makes me really sad. I'm pretty sure I know who it is, and I've always liked the guy. :(
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:24,
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maybe in some twisted way, he likes you, and this is the only way he knows how to deal with it.
...this just makes me really sad. I'm pretty sure I know who it is, and I've always liked the guy. :(

Most B3tans have the mentality of 4 year olds.
I still laugh whenever someone says poo.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:26,
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I still laugh whenever someone says poo.

when you walk past a fire extinguisher that says "Strike knob".
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:39,
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at work, where the emergency door lock opener says "kick black knob towards the door".
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:42,
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blacklist their e-mail adress... rest easy in the knowledge that you will forever be nicer than them
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18,
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ignore the feckers then post jeremy beadle family videos thru their door
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:19,
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Sorry :(
*hugs in a theoretical/virtual sense*
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:15,
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*hugs in a theoretical/virtual sense*

youa re a wonderful artist. was it tonay?
cos he is a twat and we all know he is.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:15,
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cos he is a twat and we all know he is.

Thought I'd better answer. Isn't fair to have you thinking it is him when it isn't, even if he is a cock ;)
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:22,
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the odd few i've deleted in the past can usually be found buried somewhere on there.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17,
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but you can edit the content of a post so it won't show up.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17,
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a deleted post is still accessable, but if you edit first there's nothing to see.
Or so I hear.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18,
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Or so I hear.

Email a mod and tell them.
Playful banter is fine, but harassment is not and they should not be emailing you abuse.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:16,
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Playful banter is fine, but harassment is not and they should not be emailing you abuse.

there has been some serious trollage recently. needs to be stamped out, methinks.
don't forget, though, that for every dick there are a hundred lovely people. B3ta has by far the highest ratio of good to bad i've ever come across online. fact.
*hugs*
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:16,
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don't forget, though, that for every dick there are a hundred lovely people. B3ta has by far the highest ratio of good to bad i've ever come across online. fact.
*hugs*

talk board TALK BOARD
wankshaft*
*yeah now smell her(unless its tonay?)
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:16,
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wankshaft*
*yeah now smell her(unless its tonay?)

It's late at night, the board is pretty slow, and the talk board aren't likely to give a shit.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17,
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HEY....NO.....HOT
*no pics+ talk + drunk = dont know whats going on :)
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18,
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*no pics+ talk + drunk = dont know whats going on :)

if one has a willy to begin with
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:19,
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comma in sensible non vitriolic answer shocker ! ( wuv woo ;))
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:20,
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that sometimes exceptions are tolerated and I'm sure most would agree that this is definitely one of those times. It's pretty nasty what is happening, wtf is he supposed to so.. shop nohands?
By the way, if you were joking then I have egg on my face :)

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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:35,
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By the way, if you were joking then I have egg on my face :)


And Zoot, you are far too nice. I will get around to drawing you a doodle to say cheers :)
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:59,
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well if a blow jobe is out of the question a doodle will suffice.
oh lord, did I just type that out loud?
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:02,
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oh lord, did I just type that out loud?

don't you know? ( and pissed, beer plus anger {over this thing} always ends up in me becoming dyslexic, my fingers go too fast for my brain )
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:17,
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she's one of your breed and if I might say so, when it comes to actual drawing I would be a very, very long time trying to consider another user that is on par, let alone better. This person has had his ego bruised because he's been shown to be mediocre at best.
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but an admin may be able to help. " Anybody on the board trying to annoy and cause trouble will be banned." -the faq
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:45,
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who it is so we can give them a damn good spanging! Grr!
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17,
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don't let it drag you down and just ignore them
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17,
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more freaked out that a) someone would search that hard for an email address (which is my name, which I've never disclosed in full!) and b) send me shit when they don't know me or my circumstances.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18,
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In all fairness if the mails are actual abuse and not a fucking childish scottish boy just being a twat then please feel free to contact me. You can forward me the mails and full headers and I shall inform his service provider of his breach of his TOS. I have done it before both for myself and for others when I ran a very big messageboard. I had the police turn up at one idiots door when he thought he was anonymous.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:23,
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It's pretty sad that there comes a time that people need to be reminded that not everyone is a kid, some of us are grown ups who might actually give them a spanking.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:27,
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But its cool that you can actually do that though. I just have to resign myself to accepting that if I ever met them in the street I could more than likely kick their fucking arses.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:29,
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up just thinking about it. Oh for the next meet up there that he is foolish enough to attend. I have a Phd in new arsehole tearing.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:31,
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Zoot is completely right. If it's anything that would be considered harrasment to your face or through your door, the same applies with emails. You be the judge.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:26,
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anyone determined enough could find you or me from posting on here, nevermind being a messageboard owner with access to logs etc.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:28,
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most just use hotmail or something shit which log IPs and stuff. Emaling the email providers will halt their service. if you think its worse than that, ask them to see the police.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:27,
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and I find it very difficult to believe that it's our Scottish boy.

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you either way. But I was there the last time it happened regardless of what the archives say.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:34,
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that the deleter of threads where he was rude to Sam is a scottish boy.
And he might be able to draw better than you.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:36,
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And he might be able to draw better than you.

Might be just some drunken abuse but it showed no signs of it.
I'm going to discuss it with my uncle (is a copper) and get the living daylights scared out of him. And change my email.
Thanks though love, might need your help at some point :)
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:34,
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I'm going to discuss it with my uncle (is a copper) and get the living daylights scared out of him. And change my email.
Thanks though love, might need your help at some point :)

E-mail abuse is taken seriously if handled correctly. It does no harm whatsoever to inform an ISP of the abuse even if it serves only to shake the idiot up. I am happy to help and would also have my lawyer send the complaint. That works wonders.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:36,
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I've had a few dealings with that kind of thing. Basically, if you present it correctly (i.e, not in a silly tabloidy hysteria internet stalkerish way) then you can get all the same kind of things done as if it were in real life.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:39,
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an ex Staff sergeant Royal Artillery. It's not my fault, they made me like this ;)
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:45,
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it's a breach of privacy and breaks laws
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:37,
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point if anybody ever bothers to read their terms of service you will see that using their service to harras and abuse via any medium, be it mail, messageboard orwebsite hacking is a breach. Just 1 mail that proves abuse will have his Internet service provider dump him, it just has to be handled properly.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:48,
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in real life I could wander up to them and mash their heads in with a shovel.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:19,
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He can't draw that fucking good anyway. Any cunt with a tablet can draw childish cartoons.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:21,
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childisn cartoons.......has own website........
is it Rob?
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:32,
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is it Rob?

mind you, I hope think that everyone's gay.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:33,
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we? I could never get a boyfriend and have had to live a lie, shagging hundreds of women in the last 25 years.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:38,
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I never had to buy you a drink or anything. Hang on, you don't hang around under Hammersmith bridge do you? ;)
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:49,
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block their adress, and next time they harass you on the board, save a few screenshots and zip them over the b3ta techno-rulers (Cal, primarily, I think) and plead your case.
That, or just click ignore.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18,
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That, or just click ignore.

is so persistent that it carries on from here then please, mail Rob about it, he will be very pissed off, and then name and shame him ( I know already who the foolish twat is ) and let everyone give him some back.
Childish prick.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18,
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Childish prick.

otherwise, the entire board might accidentally spam his website, or something.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:22,
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saying "fuck off and leave Sam alone you cunt"?
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:33,
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I need to know who this is. Email me and tell me somebody.
I'm just curious.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:36,
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I'm just curious.

I was just about to head off to bed, but I thought I'd just say a few words (words, words, words. Hahaha)
Anyway, no. From what I've seen you draw remarkably lully pictures and are a loverly person. From my experience with arses on the
internet, arses on the internet don't like that sort of thing. I don't know if you heard about my experience with Don Hertzfeltd, but I think
that started when I got an email from some incredibly, incredibly (yes, incredibly) angry freak of a person saying that I'd ripped off Don Hertzfeltd, they'd like nothing better than
to see my site taken off the Internet and that I was nothing better than scum. They must have emailed Mr. Don with a suitably angered email because a few days later the whole thing began. I was out to hurt no-one, I do what I do because I like making people happy.
Basically, a lot of people in this world are bastards who like inflicting pain and misery. For that I feel not hatred, but pity.
They know not what they do. Worry not, everybody (that matters) luvs ya.
G'night
*is a bit drunk*
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:36,
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Anyway, no. From what I've seen you draw remarkably lully pictures and are a loverly person. From my experience with arses on the
internet, arses on the internet don't like that sort of thing. I don't know if you heard about my experience with Don Hertzfeltd, but I think
that started when I got an email from some incredibly, incredibly (yes, incredibly) angry freak of a person saying that I'd ripped off Don Hertzfeltd, they'd like nothing better than
to see my site taken off the Internet and that I was nothing better than scum. They must have emailed Mr. Don with a suitably angered email because a few days later the whole thing began. I was out to hurt no-one, I do what I do because I like making people happy.
Basically, a lot of people in this world are bastards who like inflicting pain and misery. For that I feel not hatred, but pity.
They know not what they do. Worry not, everybody (that matters) luvs ya.
G'night
*is a bit drunk*

I could be an "it" too, you know. Some sort of gaseous entity, maybe.
*g'nights again*
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:40,
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*g'nights again*

said the drunk Neville. Night fella. I'm sure Don Hertzfield admires you as much as we do.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:39,
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the hell is Don Hertzfeltd?
I say that he is ripping off you. Possibly with the aid of a time machine and wrinkle resistant trousers.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:43,
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I say that he is ripping off you. Possibly with the aid of a time machine and wrinkle resistant trousers.

www.bitterfilms.com/
Seems to think all stick type men are his copyright.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:46,
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Seems to think all stick type men are his copyright.

that have yet managed to bore me.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:50,
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i have to say there's a distinct similarity but Nev's are better.
Plus Don looks like bit of a minge.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:51,
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Plus Don looks like bit of a minge.

www.b3ta.com/board/5074251
I'll take it away if you want me to. I just always considered him such a good person, a real child at heart.
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I'll take it away if you want me to. I just always considered him such a good person, a real child at heart.

i like it how Bild tries to give Mongy a random shoeing at the end though. ;D
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this comment about him only last night, then later that same night, he seemed human to me for the first time. I thought we had an ongoing feud.
I have worries about his personality. I didn't get off to a good start with him at all.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:48,
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I have worries about his personality. I didn't get off to a good start with him at all.

By the way, Derek (and all of you for that matter). Don't desert the board because of the recent "decline". I remember the exact same thing happening last year at this time.
School term starts again very soon and all will return to "normal" then :)

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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:49,
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School term starts again very soon and all will return to "normal" then :)





you are truly a photoshop god! I've even got a name for it. First bit of wolf+last bit of whale=whale. Crazy name, crazy animal.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:01,
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AND become a tattyshop genius!
this is fucking lemon squeezy!
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:02,
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this is fucking lemon squeezy!

at the end of the day we are all kids at heart. I love how this place allows me to be the utter idiot that frankly as a 40 year old married man I can't be in real life. Sometimes I do have to get serious as in this instant and I really would prefer not to have to.
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That was pretty mild, but yeah, I was at the end of my tether.
I avoided posting pics because I'd get 'that's shit', 'learn to draw noses/eyes' etc and my pictures take hours. Didn't seem worth it.
Nothing compared to the email, but yeah, it pissed me off.
Where'd you get it? I searched and it was deleted.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:50,
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I avoided posting pics because I'd get 'that's shit', 'learn to draw noses/eyes' etc and my pictures take hours. Didn't seem worth it.
Nothing compared to the email, but yeah, it pissed me off.
Where'd you get it? I searched and it was deleted.

I think he's just jealous he has such worthy competition.
Would you rather we didn't mention it to him, or we did?
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:53,
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Would you rather we didn't mention it to him, or we did?

It's not a competition, and styles are different, and people have different strengths.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:58,
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It's just that the idea that it's possible for one nice picture to be fundamentally better than another in every way is something we should avoid perpetuating.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:13,
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maybe the error of ways will be revealed if he happens to spazz back and read this thread.
Personally, I've rather liked his work, but I don't think I've ever posted in a thread of his. Guess that says something.
Anyhoo, Sam, I'm sure with the much support and advice in this topic, you'll have a few things to go to work on.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:51,
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Personally, I've rather liked his work, but I don't think I've ever posted in a thread of his. Guess that says something.
Anyhoo, Sam, I'm sure with the much support and advice in this topic, you'll have a few things to go to work on.

and now I've calmed down from the mail, I probably should have posted in Talk. Sorry everyone. But thanks for all the advice.
When someone finds out personal info on me, I freak out. Anyone would I think!
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:54,
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When someone finds out personal info on me, I freak out. Anyone would I think!

I'm on my way to your house now with a hip flask of whisky and some rohypnol, just to cheer you up of course. ;)
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:56,
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enough of uncle Zoot to go around ladies, they don't call me 'Airwolf ( super chopper ) for nothing you know! ;)
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:05,
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You can't knock a Yorkshire lass down!
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:01,
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I'm not a lemon. I'm a fourteen year old kid who gets bullied constantly. People say, "Don't let it get to you", but it's really not possible. People say, "Have a talk with him", but that's not possible either, the person is not rational. The fact of the matter is it does matter and it can't be resolved easily. I know the frustration you must feel.
That was a really gay speech. I'm not usually dead serious, and you can see why.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:01,
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That was a really gay speech. I'm not usually dead serious, and you can see why.

and got told "Stand up to them". What bollocks. You can't. Anyway, the head bully is dead now, got beat up real bad starting a fight in town a couple of years ago.
He had seen me and apologised to me a few months before.
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Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:05,
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He had seen me and apologised to me a few months before.

I was the academic one. All these years later after I have moved back to Manchester, a wealthy man if I may say so, an ex soldier and also an ex competition kung-fu fighter on the European circuit, there is not a man jack of them can look me in the face let alone confront me as they used to.
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