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# Wtf.
Sorry no fluffiness & no pic. Trying not to a) get stupidly pissed off and b) make this tl;dr.

At what point does b3ta make a user so utterly shit that they email a fellow user (me) and call them unpleasant names for no good reason?

This user has been nasty to me from the moment I joined. I got so fed up of it a few days ago I went to glassco.cx to find the posts he'd been nasty to me on. Every single time he'd gone back and deleted the abuse! So I can't do anything about it.

Sorry, but it stops being board pedantry when I get emails like this.

Sorry everyone. But am rather hacked off.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:14, archived)
# who is it?
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:15, archived)
# I don't think ripping him to shreds on here is fair
I just want to know if there's anything I can do - I mean obviously ignore, but how in hell did he get my private email I'll never know.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:16, archived)
# It seems thoroughly bizarre to me.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17, archived)
# Dunno.
I remember you gave me your MSN account a while back, cos I was chattin to you on it. Maybe he got it then.


And if someones ripping into you for no reason, then us ripping backon here is perfectly justified.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17, archived)
# My msn account isn't my email account, just messenger
What freaks me is that my actual email addy is my full name, which I never disclose on the net.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:20, archived)
# hmm.
that is odd. Maybe just change email accounts?
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:21, archived)
# Yeah, just pisses me off, I work from home, as you know
and all my work mails route to there. Gah.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:24, archived)
# and you're sure it's the same guy?
the one who's harrassed you here?

maybe in some twisted way, he likes you, and this is the only way he knows how to deal with it.

...this just makes me really sad. I'm pretty sure I know who it is, and I've always liked the guy. :(
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:24, archived)
# Maybe.
Most B3tans have the mentality of 4 year olds.

I still laugh whenever someone says poo.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:26, archived)
# damn.
I laughed at that.

*dispairs*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:30, archived)
# poo
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:31, archived)
# I'm not falling for it again.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:32, archived)
# *chokes on coffee*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:33, archived)
# I bet you giggle
when you walk past a fire extinguisher that says "Strike knob".
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:39, archived)
# I know I do
!
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:42, archived)
# that's nothing to the offence I feel
at work, where the emergency door lock opener says "kick black knob towards the door".
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:42, archived)
# I'm pretty sure you don't call girls you fancy
words like that!
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:27, archived)
# ignore them
blacklist their e-mail adress... rest easy in the knowledge that you will forever be nicer than them
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18, archived)
# yeah
ignore the feckers then post jeremy beadle family videos thru their door
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:19, archived)
# this^
and have a hug and stuff.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:19, archived)
# You can tell us
No reason to keep it in any longer.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:24, archived)
# Some people are just unexplainable
Sorry :(

*hugs in a theoretical/virtual sense*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:15, archived)
# calm down dear.
youa re a wonderful artist. was it tonay?
cos he is a twat and we all know he is.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:15, archived)
# Not tonay.
Thought I'd better answer. Isn't fair to have you thinking it is him when it isn't, even if he is a cock ;)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:22, archived)
# Doesn't GC
also archive deleted posts....?
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:16, archived)
# yes, that's what i thought.
the odd few i've deleted in the past can usually be found buried somewhere on there.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17, archived)
# deleted posts might be there
but you can edit the content of a post so it won't show up.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17, archived)
# depends..
a deleted post is still accessable, but if you edit first there's nothing to see.

Or so I hear.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18, archived)
# LYNCH MOB!!!
LETS KILL THE FUCKER!!!
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:16, archived)
# Who is it?
Email a mod and tell them.
Playful banter is fine, but harassment is not and they should not be emailing you abuse.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:16, archived)
# yeh
youve hit it right on the cunting clit you fucking bastard
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:26, archived)
# shit, that's horrid! :(
there has been some serious trollage recently. needs to be stamped out, methinks.

don't forget, though, that for every dick there are a hundred lovely people. B3ta has by far the highest ratio of good to bad i've ever come across online. fact.

*hugs*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:16, archived)
# oi
talk board TALK BOARD





wankshaft*



*yeah now smell her(unless its tonay?)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:16, archived)
# Why?
It's late at night, the board is pretty slow, and the talk board aren't likely to give a shit.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17, archived)
# hey
HEY....NO.....HOT


*no pics+ talk + drunk = dont know whats going on :)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18, archived)
# because shouting 'talk board' makes one's willy grow bigger
if one has a willy to begin with
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:19, archived)
# well
it didnt have an effect on mine..
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:20, archived)
# you might want to visit a doctor
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:21, archived)
# i would..
but shes kinda pervy
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:22, archived)
# i know i want to visit her now
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:23, archived)
# really?
makes two of us*



*big willie style
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:24, archived)
# fuck me
comma in sensible non vitriolic answer shocker ! ( wuv woo ;))
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:20, archived)
# That's what I thought too
and she offered sage advice.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:30, archived)
# It's obvious from all the responses (apart from yours)
that sometimes exceptions are tolerated and I'm sure most would agree that this is definitely one of those times. It's pretty nasty what is happening, wtf is he supposed to so.. shop nohands?

By the way, if you were joking then I have egg on my face :)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:35, archived)
# I'm a she :)
And shopping nohands, eh....
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:37, archived)
# Oh oops
you are Sam, not Derek. Sorry.

*Passes Monkey Beer Lite*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:55, archived)
# Ooh, new lo-carb monkey lite!
And Zoot, you are far too nice. I will get around to drawing you a doodle to say cheers :)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:59, archived)
# Haha nice?
well if a blow jobe is out of the question a doodle will suffice.





oh lord, did I just type that out loud?
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:02, archived)
# Jobe, arf ;)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:13, archived)
# Im poshe
don't you know? ( and pissed, beer plus anger {over this thing} always ends up in me becoming dyslexic, my fingers go too fast for my brain )
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:17, archived)
# Oh I thought you knew each other
she's one of your breed and if I might say so, when it comes to actual drawing I would be a very, very long time trying to consider another user that is on par, let alone better. This person has had his ego bruised because he's been shown to be mediocre at best.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:44, archived)
# Are the mails offensive enough to warrant sending them to an admin or mod?
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:16, archived)
# there's not much that a mod can do, we just get the approve, edit, delete buttons
but an admin may be able to help. " Anybody on the board trying to annoy and cause trouble will be banned." -the faq
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:45, archived)
# Tell us
who it is so we can give them a damn good spanging! Grr!
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17, archived)
# Because like real life there is always some cunt pissing in your coffee
don't let it drag you down and just ignore them
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:17, archived)
# I wish a cunt would piss in my coffee.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18, archived)
# I know and it's not like I'm crying over it
more freaked out that a) someone would search that hard for an email address (which is my name, which I've never disclosed in full!) and b) send me shit when they don't know me or my circumstances.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18, archived)
# *hugs*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:20, archived)
# Sam.
In all fairness if the mails are actual abuse and not a fucking childish scottish boy just being a twat then please feel free to contact me. You can forward me the mails and full headers and I shall inform his service provider of his breach of his TOS. I have done it before both for myself and for others when I ran a very big messageboard. I had the police turn up at one idiots door when he thought he was anonymous.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:23, archived)
# thats pretty fuckin cool.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:25, archived)
# It's not really
It's pretty sad that there comes a time that people need to be reminded that not everyone is a kid, some of us are grown ups who might actually give them a spanking.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:27, archived)
# yeah.
But its cool that you can actually do that though. I just have to resign myself to accepting that if I ever met them in the street I could more than likely kick their fucking arses.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:29, archived)
# I'm getting wound
up just thinking about it. Oh for the next meet up there that he is foolish enough to attend. I have a Phd in new arsehole tearing.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:31, archived)
# hehehehe
"They call me DR Arse tearer"
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:32, archived)
# yup, this too
Zoot is completely right. If it's anything that would be considered harrasment to your face or through your door, the same applies with emails. You be the judge.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:26, archived)
# haha evil bastard,
I didnt know that was possible.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:26, archived)
# of course it is
anyone determined enough could find you or me from posting on here, nevermind being a messageboard owner with access to logs etc.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:28, archived)
# this is a cool idea.
most just use hotmail or something shit which log IPs and stuff. Emaling the email providers will halt their service. if you think its worse than that, ask them to see the police.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:27, archived)
# hang on zoot, there are two people that fit his description
and I find it very difficult to believe that it's our Scottish boy.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:32, archived)
# I'll not try and convince
you either way. But I was there the last time it happened regardless of what the archives say.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:34, archived)
# blimey
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:40, archived)
# I think it's safe to say
that the deleter of threads where he was rude to Sam is a scottish boy.
And he might be able to draw better than you.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:36, archived)
# My flabber is well and truly ghasted
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:41, archived)
# The words used weren't childish.
Might be just some drunken abuse but it showed no signs of it.

I'm going to discuss it with my uncle (is a copper) and get the living daylights scared out of him. And change my email.

Thanks though love, might need your help at some point :)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:34, archived)
# No problem.
E-mail abuse is taken seriously if handled correctly. It does no harm whatsoever to inform an ISP of the abuse even if it serves only to shake the idiot up. I am happy to help and would also have my lawyer send the complaint. That works wonders.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:36, archived)
# yup
I've had a few dealings with that kind of thing. Basically, if you present it correctly (i.e, not in a silly tabloidy hysteria internet stalkerish way) then you can get all the same kind of things done as if it were in real life.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:39, archived)
# Wahey, you're like a one-man army!
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:39, archived)
# well I am
an ex Staff sergeant Royal Artillery. It's not my fault, they made me like this ;)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:45, archived)
# it boils down to him harassing you
it's a breach of privacy and breaks laws
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:37, archived)
# even before you get to that
point if anybody ever bothers to read their terms of service you will see that using their service to harras and abuse via any medium, be it mail, messageboard orwebsite hacking is a breach. Just 1 mail that proves abuse will have his Internet service provider dump him, it just has to be handled properly.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:48, archived)
# what grandma said
*wipes*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18, archived)
# difference is though,
in real life I could wander up to them and mash their heads in with a shovel.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:19, archived)
# *makes spang noise*
*chuckles to self*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:24, archived)
# I've already taken to ignoring him.
He can't draw that fucking good anyway. Any cunt with a tablet can draw childish cartoons.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:21, archived)
# ah I think I know who it is now
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:22, archived)
# *Tries to guess*
childisn cartoons.......has own website........

is it Rob?
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:32, archived)
# hahahahahahaha
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:33, archived)
# I thought he was gay?
mind you, I hope think that everyone's gay.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:33, archived)
# we are aren't
we? I could never get a boyfriend and have had to live a lie, shagging hundreds of women in the last 25 years.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:38, archived)
# awww, you poor thing
*takes off trousers*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:39, archived)
# Good evening Mr Commando Sir.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:48, archived)
# RESULT!
I never had to buy you a drink or anything. Hang on, you don't hang around under Hammersmith bridge do you? ;)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:49, archived)
# if someone's been e-mailing you,
block their adress, and next time they harass you on the board, save a few screenshots and zip them over the b3ta techno-rulers (Cal, primarily, I think) and plead your case.

That, or just click ignore.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18, archived)
# ^ this
Users have been banned for much less.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:20, archived)
# I think I will email Cal.
Thanks for the advice.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:23, archived)
# If the idiot
is so persistent that it carries on from here then please, mail Rob about it, he will be very pissed off, and then name and shame him ( I know already who the foolish twat is ) and let everyone give him some back.
Childish prick.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:18, archived)
# yes
otherwise, the entire board might accidentally spam his website, or something.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:22, archived)
# *makes script*
so easy.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:30, archived)
# a script that repeatedly leaves guestbook messages
saying "fuck off and leave Sam alone you cunt"?
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:33, archived)
# Sorry, been on the phone and missed all the hullabaloo.
I need to know who this is. Email me and tell me somebody.

I'm just curious.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:36, archived)
# Hello
I was just about to head off to bed, but I thought I'd just say a few words (words, words, words. Hahaha)

Anyway, no. From what I've seen you draw remarkably lully pictures and are a loverly person. From my experience with arses on the
internet, arses on the internet don't like that sort of thing. I don't know if you heard about my experience with Don Hertzfeltd, but I think
that started when I got an email from some incredibly, incredibly (yes, incredibly) angry freak of a person saying that I'd ripped off Don Hertzfeltd, they'd like nothing better than
to see my site taken off the Internet and that I was nothing better than scum. They must have emailed Mr. Don with a suitably angered email because a few days later the whole thing began. I was out to hurt no-one, I do what I do because I like making people happy.

Basically, a lot of people in this world are bastards who like inflicting pain and misery. For that I feel not hatred, but pity.
They know not what they do. Worry not, everybody (that matters) luvs ya.

G'night

*is a bit drunk*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:36, archived)
# Well said that man.
(Or woman)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:37, archived)
# Haha
I could be an "it" too, you know. Some sort of gaseous entity, maybe.

*g'nights again*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:40, archived)
# good night mate
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:39, archived)
# *buys one more*
Yays.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:39, archived)
# Thankyou for that :)
I feel lully again. Night!
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:39, archived)
# well
said the drunk Neville. Night fella. I'm sure Don Hertzfield admires you as much as we do.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:39, archived)
# Fine points sir
Sleep well

Image hosted by Photobucket.com
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:40, archived)
# who
the hell is Don Hertzfeltd?
I say that he is ripping off you. Possibly with the aid of a time machine and wrinkle resistant trousers.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:43, archived)
# He did the Rejected film
www.bitterfilms.com/

Seems to think all stick type men are his copyright.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:46, archived)
# Did he do
"Life as a Guy".

It rings a bell.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:50, archived)
# To be fair, the last two minutes of Rejected are true brilliance
that have yet managed to bore me.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:50, archived)
# well, having just flicked through the bloke's galleries,
i have to say there's a distinct similarity but Nev's are better.


Plus Don looks like bit of a minge.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:51, archived)
# :( I wasn't happy to see this.
www.b3ta.com/board/5074251

I'll take it away if you want me to. I just always considered him such a good person, a real child at heart.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:40, archived)
# ew, no - what a horrible and miserable thread!
i like it how Bild tries to give Mongy a random shoeing at the end though. ;D
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:48, archived)
# arf yeah
if in doubt, blame him :)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:49, archived)
# I made
this comment about him only last night, then later that same night, he seemed human to me for the first time. I thought we had an ongoing feud.

I have worries about his personality. I didn't get off to a good start with him at all.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:48, archived)
# Me too
By the way, Derek (and all of you for that matter). Don't desert the board because of the recent "decline". I remember the exact same thing happening last year at this time.

School term starts again very soon and all will return to "normal" then :)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:49, archived)
# i haven't noticed a decline recently at all - what's everyone on about?
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:53, archived)
# haha but
you don't mind being told how shit you are ;)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:55, archived)
[challenge entry] ;¬)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:58, archived)
# Topshop!
hahahahaha

(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:58, archived)
# yeah, i was just showing amon how i could thrash him at animangling. :D
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:00, archived)
# That's amazing
you are truly a photoshop god! I've even got a name for it. First bit of wolf+last bit of whale=whale. Crazy name, crazy animal.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:01, archived)
# hurrah! i've invented the whale!
AND become a tattyshop genius!



this is fucking lemon squeezy!
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:02, archived)
# Yeah this
at the end of the day we are all kids at heart. I love how this place allows me to be the utter idiot that frankly as a 40 year old married man I can't be in real life. Sometimes I do have to get serious as in this instant and I really would prefer not to have to.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:54, archived)
# Well, everyone knows who it is anyway
That was pretty mild, but yeah, I was at the end of my tether.

I avoided posting pics because I'd get 'that's shit', 'learn to draw noses/eyes' etc and my pictures take hours. Didn't seem worth it.

Nothing compared to the email, but yeah, it pissed me off.

Where'd you get it? I searched and it was deleted.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:50, archived)
# Searched for it on your profile on Glassco.cx. It's there.
I think he's just jealous he has such worthy competition.

Would you rather we didn't mention it to him, or we did?
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:53, archived)
# This is silly.
It's not a competition, and styles are different, and people have different strengths.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:58, archived)
# It's just a guess, really.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:02, archived)
# No, I think you're possibly right that the poor chap is motivated by jealousy.
It's just that the idea that it's possible for one nice picture to be fundamentally better than another in every way is something we should avoid perpetuating.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:13, archived)
# well
maybe the error of ways will be revealed if he happens to spazz back and read this thread.
Personally, I've rather liked his work, but I don't think I've ever posted in a thread of his. Guess that says something.
Anyhoo, Sam, I'm sure with the much support and advice in this topic, you'll have a few things to go to work on.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:51, archived)
# I do, I didn't think I had any grounds to mail a mod
and now I've calmed down from the mail, I probably should have posted in Talk. Sorry everyone. But thanks for all the advice.

When someone finds out personal info on me, I freak out. Anyone would I think!
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:54, archived)
# Don't worry love
I'm on my way to your house now with a hip flask of whisky and some rohypnol, just to cheer you up of course. ;)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:56, archived)
# 'ang on
you said you'd stay the night!

You bastard!
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 1:59, archived)
# haha there is ( just)
enough of uncle Zoot to go around ladies, they don't call me 'Airwolf ( super chopper ) for nothing you know! ;)
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:05, archived)
# MORE rohypnol? I've already had a pint!
You can't knock a Yorkshire lass down!
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:01, archived)
# Really now
I'm not a lemon. I'm a fourteen year old kid who gets bullied constantly. People say, "Don't let it get to you", but it's really not possible. People say, "Have a talk with him", but that's not possible either, the person is not rational. The fact of the matter is it does matter and it can't be resolved easily. I know the frustration you must feel.

That was a really gay speech. I'm not usually dead serious, and you can see why.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:01, archived)
# Hit the nail right on the head.
/huggles
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:02, archived)
# *huggles back*
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:06, archived)
# I was bullied at school.
and got told "Stand up to them". What bollocks. You can't. Anyway, the head bully is dead now, got beat up real bad starting a fight in town a couple of years ago.

He had seen me and apologised to me a few months before.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:05, archived)
# Yeah, they say that too.
That's a kind of sad story.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:07, archived)
# I had the rip taken out of me at school something chronic because
I was the academic one. All these years later after I have moved back to Manchester, a wealthy man if I may say so, an ex soldier and also an ex competition kung-fu fighter on the European circuit, there is not a man jack of them can look me in the face let alone confront me as they used to.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:09, archived)
# If you had posted in talk
We wouldn't have seen it. (Well, I wouldn't)

You did the right thing.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:03, archived)
# Just saw your profile.
Fuck me, you're good.
(, Mon 5 Sep 2005, 2:14, archived)