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(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:13, archived)
# class
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:15, archived)
# Heh heh heh.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:15, archived)
# heehee!
I'm a donor. Got one of the old cards and I'm on the register.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:16, archived)
# You can still be over-ruled by meddlesome relatives.
What is the world coming to? Etc...
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:18, archived)
# Not a chance.
They're under strict orders. In fact, thank you for reminding me, I must check the will and make sure it's on there.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:20, archived)
# hahahahahaha!
and just so you all know, should i suddenly die while typing this reply, the whole of my body is up for grabs on a strictly first come first served basis.

(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:17, archived)
You've got excellent hair.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:17, archived)
# it's yours
*attaches raffle ticket, pink 576.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:20, archived)
# \o/ success!
*wears hair, drinks tea, smokes a rollie*
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:21, archived)
# *pores over naked corpse*
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:21, archived)
# /autocomplete
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:23, archived)
# heh.
i wish i could donate body parts.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:17, archived)
# hahahaha
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:18, archived)
# hahahahahahahahahaha brilliant! *prints out*
That gets a well deserverd Woo and a YAY!
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:21, archived)
# To be honest
I'm all for people who chose not to give up fags/booze/drugs not getting first dibs.

There was a thing on dutch TV last year about a little girl and a 40 odd year old alcoholic, both needing a new liver, and the premise of the show was deciding who got it. It was more a publicity effort to make people think about donating, but if it was a decision I had to make, there wouldn't be one. Little girl gets it, no questions asked. Unless the dying alky is curing cancer or something...
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:21, archived)
# also depends
Would tha alcy host a party after getting the liver, im pretty sure that would be a party to be at.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:24, archived)
# true.
not if he did a George Best...In what way does being good at something ultimately pointless like football, entitle you to life while other more worthy people die?
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:29, archived)
# Damn right.
Or environmentalists, they don't interest me at all, they can all die too.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:32, archived)
# I'm just saying
football is essentially pointless. As are most things, really.

Being good at football doesn't entitle you to be a dick, and fuck up not one, but two livers. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but he brought it on himself.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:35, archived)
# I can't deny that it's careless behaviour
given the finite supply of livers.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:39, archived)
# well
most of them belong to people already.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:45, archived)
# but by your logic
being a child doesn't 'entitle' you to a liver either.

If it was two children needing a liver, I agree the decision would be harder, because with 1 child and a 40 yr old alcy then its a no-contest (although I assume we all agree it shouldn't be a 'contest' in the first place).

I say get them to fight it out. I mean, the alcy will have the weight behind his punches, but balance will be an issue.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:41, archived)
# I hate this debate about who's 'entitled' to treatment
Where do you draw the line?

Smokers and drinkers are an easy target.
People who eat shit food?
People who play sport or exercise?
Stupid people who do stupid things?

You make a case that just about everyone has done something that makes them 'unentitled' to treatment.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:46, archived)
# I am
entitled to treatment, because I think I am important enough.

Just give me all the livers, ill keep them in storage.

(On a serious note though, yes I agree, entitlement cannot be judged on how 'bad' you treated yourself. If we all lived life thinking that then there would be no life to live, however someone like best who KNEW what happens, well, I can't have much sympathy for him I am afraid').
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:51, archived)
# It's a cold hard fact that, although children are as human as anybody else, few of them are likely to do great work for humanity in the next five years of their lives.
So I think the 40-year-old has the edge in this meritocracy actually.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:56, archived)
# You're right that some people are more valuable than other, but it would be terrible to have anybody in charge of deciding that.
How about simply giving the organs to the people who can afford to pay the most? As a rule of thumb, those are usually the best people. Also, they'd be giving lots of money to hospitals as a result.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:31, archived)
# you'd best be taking the piss
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:32, archived)
# I'm not sure.
I'm musing about free and equal health care at the moment, having read something in the Times that left me unsure of my arguments.
Edit: it was this
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:34, archived)
# with the little girl and the wino
it was more of a clear cut case I suppose, than if you had two similar cases. And thats without taking into account compatability and all that.

She has nothing to do with her illness, cruel twist of fate. He on the other hand, knew the risks, and went ahead anyway.

But I agree, such issues are complicated
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:42, archived)
# There are some outstandingly great moral dilemmas based around organ transplants.
For instance, what is it that's wrong about killing somebody in order to donate all their body parts to other individuals who would otherwise quickly die? The principle of ownership of one's own body parts, that's what. Which would seem to suggest that you can (morally) fuck up as many livers as you like without being refused new ones.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:48, archived)
# SO
If by killing one person you could save 4 others, 2 people get kidneys, 1 a liver, 1 heart lung, then we should kill off people even if they are fine as 3 other lives will be saved.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 12:52, archived)
# that would be awesome!
...I'm looking in the direction of the prison near where i work.. not sure why?
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 13:52, archived)
# Better still
would be to have a liver lottery ona wednesday night. We can line up some C list celebrities to start up Lancelot and away they go. Livers slopping around inside, until a platform rises up, pulling with it a spray painted liver with a number on. Then voiceover man can talk about who its going too whilst the organ people put it in their picnic box and whisk it away to Dudley*.

*Dudley is an example, if this idea comes to fruition and someone from Dudley DOES win then it is entirely coincidental.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:48, archived)
# That actually is interesting
And some of the comments totally miss the point as well.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:46, archived)
# Meh
The assumed consent thing is supposed to mean there's plenty to go round.
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:38, archived)
# Absolutely brilliant!
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 9:28, archived)
# *prints*
*puts in wallet*

(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 11:36, archived)
I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking of doing it :p
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 17:01, archived)
# simply put. Awesome :)
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 14:20, archived)
# Ha-ha! Excelente!!

Megenta cock teim!
(, Thu 17 Jan 2008, 22:44, archived)