
I have not seen anything like that before!
May contain lies

Oh sorry. I thought you said pies and I got all excited.
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I only have Pugsy the Pus filled Pussy

pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie,

I have to confirm that she has no Pie..
Sorry

*goes to Wenzels to buy pie*
Weight Watchers be damned! DAMNED, I SAY!
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Weight Watchers be damned! DAMNED, I SAY!

I figured!Been away a bit though and fancied a lunchtime quickie! :)
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How long did it take you then?
* Now deserves a Woo
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* Now deserves a Woo

Sorry but I think it's pretty horrific to rip the piss about his suicide.
Religion debates are fucking shitlame.
OH FUCKING GOSH. I THINK I NEED TO APOLOGISE HERE. THIS THREAD GOT ALL SUCKY AND SHIT. SORRY GUYS.
APPLY HERE FOR FUNHUGTIMES:
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Religion debates are fucking shitlame.
OH FUCKING GOSH. I THINK I NEED TO APOLOGISE HERE. THIS THREAD GOT ALL SUCKY AND SHIT. SORRY GUYS.
APPLY HERE FOR FUNHUGTIMES:

but i feel the same way about this one, usually there's something to laugh about celbrity deaths, but i genuinely feel sorry for the guy :(
yup call me a wuss but yeah i feel sorry for the poor bloke
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yup call me a wuss but yeah i feel sorry for the poor bloke

You shouldn't encourage me, the board nazis will hang us both!
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And it's Carling:P
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he'll be working as office admin in the afterlife.
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not the pisstaking, but the event itself- I'm a firm believer in Heaven so from where I'm looking he's safe with his lady and happy again.
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The Jesus Heaven doesn't like sucide. So he might be sitting outside the gates.
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god loves everyone and can do anything, (apart from prevent horrendous suffering on earth apparently)
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Stuff happened, but then towards the end I found myself in a mostly submerged cave with a woman struggling against the flow of a grated drain. This woman was screaming "He's dying, and when he sleeps he dreams of me!" She managed to get to dry land, and headed towards a door with something in colourful chalk written on it. She was babbling about how "He loves us all really...he loves us so much he wouldn't really let us go to hell..."
So, she opens the door, and I'm hanging behind her in that weird dreamy way,and there are some stairs, and it looks a little like backstage at a venue I recognise from somewhere. I remember distinctly thinking that Morgan Freeman or someone would appear at the top of the stairs and say it was all true, and he does love us, and BOOM! Blinding light, and a ridiculously loud noise. Woke me up. If I was a religious man, I would've sworn it was the voice of God.
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So, she opens the door, and I'm hanging behind her in that weird dreamy way,and there are some stairs, and it looks a little like backstage at a venue I recognise from somewhere. I remember distinctly thinking that Morgan Freeman or someone would appear at the top of the stairs and say it was all true, and he does love us, and BOOM! Blinding light, and a ridiculously loud noise. Woke me up. If I was a religious man, I would've sworn it was the voice of God.

Or did you really have potentially the most frightening and bizzare dream I have heard of?
*shudders*
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*shudders*

I googled "he's dying..." and it's not a quote from anything. The caves looked a little bit like the antlion lair in HL2 - Ep II though. I had a look at the little thing I jotted down when I woke up, and apparently, she (we?) were being stalked by Koschei the deathless.
I had another dream years ago when I was going down a winding alley with high brick walls. I got to the end, where there was a door, which I opened. There were some steps leading down to a short corridor, at the end of which was a tiled pit filled with writhing souls. Sheer fucking utter terror. Never been so scared before or since. But the setting for that one was a mix between my school and the old swimming baths I used to visit.
They're not all bad though. Last week I got to do the sex with Jessica Alba!
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I had another dream years ago when I was going down a winding alley with high brick walls. I got to the end, where there was a door, which I opened. There were some steps leading down to a short corridor, at the end of which was a tiled pit filled with writhing souls. Sheer fucking utter terror. Never been so scared before or since. But the setting for that one was a mix between my school and the old swimming baths I used to visit.
They're not all bad though. Last week I got to do the sex with Jessica Alba!

I can't remember my dreams, usually, though I did have a Giant Eskimo Home Invasion nightmare when I was a kid that has stayed with me.
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and since the restraining order I can't do it when I'm awake either!
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that I'd actually be interested in reading. Get to it you freaky brained individual!
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where I explain my views, get called a knob and yet again have to put up with fashionable atheists thinking they're dead clever for taking the piss. It's not clever, it's fucking rude. Live and let live, that's what I say but it seems if you have faith of any sort then that rule is squashed by an even bigger rule called 'act like a know-it-all bigotted twat around Christians'. I just don't understand why it's necessary to be so rude about something like someone's faith when it affects you exactly zero percent. Not you, but one. And funnily enough, the people I know who are quite vocally anti Christianity are much less so when they haven't got their little friends around them to pat them on the back after every insult.
So no, not discussing it. I don't think it's that clear cut though, I will say that.
Edit: I know I went off on a bit of a rant there but I've already had a similar discussion today. Sorry for flying off the handle.
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So no, not discussing it. I don't think it's that clear cut though, I will say that.
Edit: I know I went off on a bit of a rant there but I've already had a similar discussion today. Sorry for flying off the handle.

you know i did, you know i did, you know i did.
but in this ever changing world in which we live in it made me give in a try
*Dun Dun Dun - Dun Dun Dun*
Live and Let Die!

through loudspeakers across the city at half one. Cheer everyone up on their lunchbreak.
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bring back routemasters too.
and gold plate all the tramps
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and gold plate all the tramps

can second be getting a whale in the thames, permanently
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Real one, no. That's cruel.
Actually no, different member of the Welsh rugby team each day.
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Actually no, different member of the Welsh rugby team each day.

that make you right 4 the role
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and someone to go round shooting litter bugs
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Im going back to work i understand that better
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Faith is a private thing and should be kept that way.
If this could only happen, the world would be a better place.
I believe this but I an starting to wonder if I should have posted it?

As a certified christian I whole heartedly support your stance.
yay for christians
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yay for christians

Especially the Hindus, I wish everyone else was that colourful. The Hindus win the style contest, for me, bless them.
Anyway, I didn't actually mean to go off on one. I've a few friends who are atheists in that... intolerant way and they're fine people, we just don't discuss religion.
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Anyway, I didn't actually mean to go off on one. I've a few friends who are atheists in that... intolerant way and they're fine people, we just don't discuss religion.

you don't want to get me started on this!
as for christian views of suicide
"The 1997 Catechism of the Catholic Church indicates that suicide may not always be fully conscious – and thus not one-hundred-percent morally culpable: "Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.""
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as for christian views of suicide
"The 1997 Catechism of the Catholic Church indicates that suicide may not always be fully conscious – and thus not one-hundred-percent morally culpable: "Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.""

or just the act of NOT running away from persecution and eventual death at the hands of religious intolerance could be counted as suicide. All shades of grey, innit.
Anyway, I'm off, having had my rant. Hugs to all.
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Anyway, I'm off, having had my rant. Hugs to all.

I just choose to go with the odds where belief is concerned, since I'm a scientist, and believe that based on the evidence I have seen, that there is nothing more than this and that afterlifes and heavens are fabrications of the human psyche.
that, and I prefer to talk about sex with you.
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that, and I prefer to talk about sex with you.

hindu's are fab, i like religions with hundreds of multi coloured deities.
don't much care for the others that only have the one mind you.
but i'm getting into that today.
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don't much care for the others that only have the one mind you.
but i'm getting into that today.

As such people tend to be quite reactionary about the whole thing, much the same thing happened with sexual equality and feminists being incredibly reactionary to try and tip the scales so to speak.
Personally I don't think there's should be any more credence to religious or faith beliefs (whatever you may call them if you don't technically belong to a religion) and don't think they have any right to be elevated above socio-political views or any such secular opinion.
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Personally I don't think there's should be any more credence to religious or faith beliefs (whatever you may call them if you don't technically belong to a religion) and don't think they have any right to be elevated above socio-political views or any such secular opinion.

*gets slaves to build an over-elaborate church to celebrate invisible ice-cream, using money which could have been used to prevent people dying of starvation*
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It affects us that way, even if the religion in question has almost no effect on anything, like the C of E.
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I must say, I have a certain affection for the way you have made your points. Do you have a book about you that I could live my life by plz?
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Being religious isn't clever, and the tradition of giving respect to religion is an error.
I wouldn't be respectful if you sincerely claimed to believe in something equally ridiculous that you'd made up yourself, I'd call you a twat. "Stop saying that, you twat, it's idiotic," I'd say. Hence, that's what I say to religion.
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I wouldn't be respectful if you sincerely claimed to believe in something equally ridiculous that you'd made up yourself, I'd call you a twat. "Stop saying that, you twat, it's idiotic," I'd say. Hence, that's what I say to religion.

is a dangerous thing.
I'd recommend reading some Karl Popper on the philosphy of science, then go read about Bishop Berkeley's ideas on subjective idealism, it's not as cut and dried as you think.
Or alternatively, just continue to be rude of those who see the world in a different way than yourself.
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I'd recommend reading some Karl Popper on the philosphy of science, then go read about Bishop Berkeley's ideas on subjective idealism, it's not as cut and dried as you think.
Or alternatively, just continue to be rude of those who see the world in a different way than yourself.

*pats Unended Quest*
What are you saying? I'm down with Popper: 1) we are perpetually wrong, 2) there exists an objective truth to grope towards. Berkley, on the other hand, can go kick some rocks.
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What are you saying? I'm down with Popper: 1) we are perpetually wrong, 2) there exists an objective truth to grope towards. Berkley, on the other hand, can go kick some rocks.

:D
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but there was always that niggling doubt that I couldn't rationalise against what I knew of science.
Still, I respect christianity, and all other religions, except scientology. It might not be any less believable than the other religions, but I just can't cope with people being suckered into it...
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Still, I respect christianity, and all other religions, except scientology. It might not be any less believable than the other religions, but I just can't cope with people being suckered into it...

I'm happy for you to love any sky daddy you want.
But the implications for beliefs, yours and others are felt world wide. No fault of the belief mind, more the people who carry out such acts in the name of sky daddy.
I’ll believe in people first.
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But the implications for beliefs, yours and others are felt world wide. No fault of the belief mind, more the people who carry out such acts in the name of sky daddy.
I’ll believe in people first.

Another forum I go on, had this very debate, where I called god an 'Imaginary twat in the clouds'
The Christians response to this. Offer to fight me if we ever met. It was pure genius.
For every 'turn the other cheek' there is 'an eye for an eye'.
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The Christians response to this. Offer to fight me if we ever met. It was pure genius.
For every 'turn the other cheek' there is 'an eye for an eye'.

Its basically the space on the internet that is not taken up by b3ta.
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as I don't particularly care - I just like making religo's fume.
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Meh meh meh I'll shut up now.
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Does this make gay peopel straight? Two gays make a plus.....
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think of Maddie!
I agree that it's sad, but tragedy is almost always funny.
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I agree that it's sad, but tragedy is almost always funny.

Suicide doesn't really make me laugh too much at the moment though.
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I had a mate do himself in, it was sad. I didn't joke about it. But then Alan Davies came to his funeral which was a bit funny.
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I'm not going to discriminate against anyone on religious grounds so why does everyone feel the need to give their 20cents from their viewpoint. Honestly don't give a fuck.
Rage rage rage stomp stomp stomp.
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Rage rage rage stomp stomp stomp.

it'll be ok. Promise.
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That and it's lame. Totally weak lame.
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if you feel really evil.
I love religion debates, they're cosy.
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I love religion debates, they're cosy.

that's the third game in a row you've won.
bloody polish version of hangman.
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bloody polish version of hangman.

Winner of a big slice of cayke is AEIYM.
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Help yourself to a slice.
Hang on, have I actually won a cake? Yes. I have. Definitely.

claim your prize by stating
"i claim my prize of a free slice of 'insert cayke type here'"
Pay administration fee of approx. £1.79 per slice.
Enjoy.
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"i claim my prize of a free slice of 'insert cayke type here'"
Pay administration fee of approx. £1.79 per slice.
Enjoy.

It's always the admin charge that bites you in the arse with them cunts.
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or is everything the same again and again
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Edit: IS TONY HART DEAD? FUUUUCK! NOOOOO! TONY!! DO NOT GO GENTLE INTO THAT GOOD NIGHT TONY!! NOOOO!
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