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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Honestly, I pop out for an hour and you lot let the attention-seeking massive take over. Anyway, I'm confident you'll like this.
Having twenty minutes spare before I needed to be back at work, I popped into the Steam Packet for a pint for the simple reason that it's 30 seconds' walk from my office door. I read my copy of FHM (hey, it's funny) and drank Amstel. Bliss.
I mentioned this pasttime to my workmate upon my return to the office. He sniggered and told me to check out www.norwichgaypubs.com. It turns out I was sat in a gay bar, looking like the slightly camp and frequently-accused-of-bumdering fellow I am, reading F-H-fucking-M. On my own. I may as well have had "doth protest too much" tattooed on my forehead.
What gaps in your knowledge have led to embarrassment of late?
Alt: Star Wars or Star Trek?
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That's not a very nice way to talk about BGB.
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other than them secretly being a fan of yours.
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Better to get a reaction than to be ignored.
Spoken like a true attention seeker eh!
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:53, Reply)
I, on the other hand, have Dr. Shambolic to wind up into tooth-chattering fury. Even got him to delete a thread where I was mocking him, the poor dear.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:56, Reply)
It was mod deleted. Shambles had nothing to do with it, your "victory" didn't happen.
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when I went back to check if anything good had happened in it.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:13, Reply)
But he did seem to get genuinely pissed off and deleted his post, taking out everything under it.
It was a good way to pass time while waiting for paint to dry.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:16, Reply)
I did however get the measure of the man, so to speak.
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Did Wormulus have him "disappeared"?
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"It would have been okay, but he brought along a little wheely case, and it was just FULL of scarves"
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but since its well known on here that I support Leicester I'm going with Derby or forest, probably forest.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:47, Reply)
That level of detail screams GOOGLE. However I am prepared to admit that as my own passion for Forest is well-known you could have guessed that.
I must also advise you that any hostility towards you between now and the end of May is entirely impersonal and based only on the possibility of you making a decent run for the playoffs and going up ahead of us
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:51, Reply)
but you're going to choke and Leicester will be promoted before you.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:52, Reply)
Unless we put together a blinding run against the other promotion-seeking teams in March and April, we'll end up in the Playoffs, where we ALWAYS choke. I fancy Norwich to surprise people by winning the final, and get battered next season alongside QPR and Swansea
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:55, Reply)
Larger universe, Sisko and Picard are better than any Star Wars character. It never had Ja Ja binks in.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:03, Reply)
As if you read FHM. *looks disapproving* That is a pretty funny story though.
I don't think I have any gaps in my knowledge that bother me, if I want to learn about something, I'll learn about it.
Alt: Neither. I still have some small part of non-geekiness left. On an entirely seperate note, I'm not sat here reading YouGov studies. Honestly.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:46, Reply)
If I was going to talk about something, I'd make sure I knew what I was talking about first.
However, with something like sport, I'm not interested in it, therefore I'm unlikely to talk about it, therefore I don't read things about it.
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'Looking it up' during the course of such an event wouldn't be an option.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:04, Reply)
Which would be why I don't join in conversations I have no interest in and then talk out of my arse.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:07, Reply)
The Danny Dyer of /ot
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:53, Reply)
Shamefully I watched the Danny Dyer season of films the other week. He really is 'fucking shit' (tm Monty Boyce, all royalties will be paid forthwith)
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I want my minute and a half back please.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:18, Reply)
ask AA for a happy five minutes, you'll end up with over four minutes spare then.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:20, Reply)
Do you want to goad me into a feminist rant?
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:52, Reply)
I never said they were a girls band, I simply admitted I don't rate 'what I know' of theirs.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:06, Reply)
I was just adapting something you said to annoy Bella to try and get you to provoke her further. You are, sadly, too wise in the ways of women for this gambit to work.
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So yes, I'll pick FHM over them any day.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:08, Reply)
New blog in the pipeline?
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Please note that I have added the full stop you appear to have missed at no extra charge.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:01, Reply)
Tonight Darth I'm going to be Wormulus.
*sings*
Dontcha wish your girlfriend was hot like me
Dontcha wish your girlfriend was a freak like me
Dontcha!
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:48, Reply)
But there's no need to be obsessive over the man.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:57, Reply)
I daren't stretch myself.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:59, Reply)
I'll get bored in a while, like I did with the salsa classes.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:07, Reply)
and mix it all up and put it on your nachos.
EDIT - that wasn't how you spell tomato
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:17, Reply)
you've probably been wiggling in time to music with little concern for technique. Nothing personal, I just have no time for Salsa.
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Now, I love it, don't get me wrong, but are you going to produce any new materials?
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:57, Reply)
or unless its missus had sex with the milkman. does that count as new material?
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I'm going to resist the urge to Chompy my joke.
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let's face it, quite a few people on here wouldn't have noticed.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:14, Reply)
Whoa, whoa which Star Wars/Star Trek are we comparing?
You can't possibly generalise like that (same is true of Blake's 7).
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:10, Reply)
never mind have an involved opinion on the merits should be physically forced to step away from the television/internet and do something OUTSIDE.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:11, Reply)
less interesting than being keen on shoes or handbags?
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:18, Reply)
at least there is sex in sex and the city.
when was the last time being a trekkie got anyone laid?
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:22, Reply)
any woman who watched that and didn't feel degraded and offended really needs to look again, look at themselves and then realise that the reason gender equality hasn't happened yet is because of people like them. They also need to stop having sex with Agnostic Antichrist.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:26, Reply)
I just wish she'd confirm the rumours concerning his microknob
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:32, Reply)
You make a very good point about SATC and its ilk. The fact that women are happy to accept such base and offensive stereotyping, and even embrace it, means it is further propagated into everyday encounters.
Plus, it's really, really fucking stupid.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:33, Reply)
anyone who watches it and takes it seriously deserves a slap.
it's fine to hate it!
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:42, Reply)
It's four foul harridans ticking every offensive female stereotype box they could find.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:49, Reply)
and Kristin Davis, who really could charge for it but is obviously too stupid
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:59, Reply)
gender inequality will never happen because there will always be sexist men at the top, and there will always be women who actively want to stay at home and spend their husband's money all day long. this seems to happen even to career women when they start pushing out the crotchfruit!
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:31, Reply)
And no, the sexiest men are not always at the top.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:34, Reply)
and their parents. certainly out of all my friends to have had kids, it is the woman who has not gone back to work. and hardly any of my friends' mothers worked when we were growing up, although mine did. this is usually because their husband earns more money, but quite a few of them have said to me that something mushy just happens inside your head when you have one child, so that all you want to do is have MOAR BABIES and MAKE THE HOUSE ALL HOMELY-LIKE.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:37, Reply)
with women doing the identical job as men being paid less money purely because of their lack of a penis.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:38, Reply)
and this is what has happened: for those with families, ambition gets replaced with home-making. for those without, the pay is equal.
anything outside my friends and colleagues, i don't know enough about it to comment. not that this usually stops me.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:40, Reply)
I bet a few minority groups wish they had you on their side too. "Look people, you're never going to stop being treated unequally, BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST DIFFERENT! Now just go back to your shit lives, there's good chaps"
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:35, Reply)
it is this sort of thinking that causes problems in the first place. i don't give a fuck what other women want to do. i wanted a career, i worked my arse off, i got a bloody good one. anyone else who wants it can work for their own, regardless of whether they are male, female, gay, straight, black, white or sky blue pink with yellow dots on them. for the record, i have refused to join any of the female initiatives at my firm. i resent being given a leg-up just because i am female. it should be about my legal and client skills, nothing more, nothing less.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:39, Reply)
But what about outside of your highly skilled bubble? A 25% pay disparity can't all be to do with child-induced lack of ambition, surely?
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:43, Reply)
She doesn't know anybody paid less than her and she doesn't know any women paid less than men for the same job. Therefore it DOES NOT HAPPEN.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:44, Reply)
i won a scholarship when i was 9 that paid for all my education, and then worked my arse off to get good enough grades to do what i do now.
there must be a disparity, as it seems to be a well-established fact, but it is not something that i've ever come across in practice. the only thing i have come across in real life is the fact that there are very few female partners in law, accountancy etc, primarily because a large number of them give up their careers when they have a family. a fact which everyone recognises tacitly, openly says "we must fix this", but realistically can't because you can't work the sort of hours that i work (eg 2am last night, will be post midnight tonight) if you have kids - it's not fair on them.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:49, Reply)
What about other careers? What about the fact that women are routinely discriminated against before their employment is even commenced? What about discrimination in the law, in having interests represented or anything else like that?
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unkempt pubic hair.
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Level 10 Didactic Wiccan stage has been attained !1!!
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:56, Reply)
i can ONLY talk about those careers. it's all i know about. i can tell you why there are very few women at the top in those careers, and i have done. more girls go into law than boys. more trainees are female than boys. but the partnership ratio is about 20:80 female:male. because the women leave the career and don't come back.
i can't talk about other careers because apart from a student stint behind the bar, i've never been involved in them.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:55, Reply)
because you know nothing about it?
We know that, it's quite clear from your posts, what we we're trying to point out is that outside of your little bubble of perfectly equal pay, there are lots of women who are paid less for doing the same job.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:01, Reply)
so what are YOU doing about it?
posting on an internet forum but carrying on taking more pay than a woman anyway?
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:06, Reply)
for doing the same job.
This started because I pointed out that SATC was profoundly offensive against women, and I will stand by that comment.
I never said you ought to be ought marching in the defence of equal pay, but I would like to think someone as well educated as you would have been at least aware of the problem, as I am.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:10, Reply)
you're just happily doing nothing about it? shame on you, al...
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in all fairness
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Remember the large holes in your general knowledge we were on about earlier...
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:12, Reply)
Given that I've studied law, and have actually specifically studied gender discrimination in both family law and criminal law in order to contrast the two.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:20, Reply)
I studied GCSE maths, but that don't make me a mathmatician.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:22, Reply)
Given that you have no idea how large a hole would have to be in order to drive a bus through. You probably should avoid driving buses too.
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what about women really only being good for sewing and playing with kittens?
What about THAT? These lesbians are getting me down.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:08, Reply)
You see, isn't it so much easier when you let us men do your thinking for you?
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:11, Reply)
It's false fucking advertising.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:11, Reply)
How can you not have "any such thing as a minority group".
If we all started off equal then yes, anyone regardless of ethnicity or sexuality could achieve anything that anyone else could.
But we don't start off equal, so to start saying "You know the problem with all those black kids from the deprived areas is that they just don't work hard enough" is just racist.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:43, Reply)
and your wife APPARENTLY has wonky tits, doesn't give you the right to speak for minority groups.
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Is this Al's gravitational pull or some kind of medical defect?
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:51, Reply)
it's already got legs.
Monty look at this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnPJmDc0b_M
at 0.33, that's what I would look like if I was black.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:53, Reply)
people should be assessed on ability and effort and no more. yes it is hard if you are born into a deprived area. but at some point you've got to take responsibility and if your parents didn't, that sucks, but you either stay in a shithole or you work your way out of it (like my dad did).
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:53, Reply)
Growing up at the time he did meant he had it the easiest he could possibly have had it.
You are a white middle class girl so you've had it pretty much as easy as he did.
And I say this as a white middle class man who also had it very easy to get where I am today.
There is no comparison to my nice upbringing in a big house in the country to being raised in a poor area of a large city and I wouldn't pretend to have any idea how much harder it would have been if that was the case.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:58, Reply)
however, i wouldn't say that getting 1 out of 25 scholarships when i was 9 (about 10,000 kids took that exam) or getting 1 place out of 150 to get into school (about 2000 kids took that exam) or slogging my guts out to get A*s and As at GCSE and A-level and a good degree or getting a training contract (about 2,000 applicants go for each training contract) was EASY!
however, it's also about what you do when you get to where you are. you and i both repay the system with taxes which helps people in poorer areas (although not in the most efficient way imho) we are both good citizens, what else can we do?
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:05, Reply)
i have actually only ever seen about 2 episodes if that helps...
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:10, Reply)
things aren't right or fixed yet. But I have to point out that just because he was white didn't necessarily make her father's path easier. The disadvantage of class as versus colour is far more marked. It's about money and its distribution rather than skin colour.
You're also seemingly rather determined to paint the middle class with a massive brush as having had it easy. It's just not true. I'd be fucking happy right now if it was true.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:13, Reply)
a black person from the north of England would have had a far harder time making a lot of money than a white person.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:17, Reply)
Christ how unlucky can one person be?
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:20, Reply)
but that's quite a long time ago. You can't dismiss hardship but saying 'oh well some other people have had it harder'
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:20, Reply)
I don't really see where you're coming from here.
My initial argument was that Swipey has dismissed "minority groups" as requiring any sort of extra help because all they should do is work harder.
I'm just saying that the reality of the situation is that if you don't give people opportunities then, although some people will always work to better themselves, a lot of people either can't or won't and you will end up a big group of people with no education and no prospects and simply relying on benefits.
Oh hang on, it's pretty much what has happened.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:25, Reply)
i meant there SHOULD be no such thing. i didn't say it doesn't happen in practice!
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:34, Reply)
that the middle east should just stop being nasty and just be nice instead.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:42, Reply)
Her mom went on to marry someone else and have two other kids, neither have jobs, one has a baby, the other dropped out of high school, while my best friend could have done the same thing she graduated, went to college, graduated from college and has a good job.
Pretty good for someone from a family that's considered poor white trash.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:54, Reply)
and equally there are lots of privileged people who piss their opportunities up the wall.
But it takes a lot more effort to get where your friend from her start in life.
This is really a whole different argument to the point I started off making, which is that Sex and the City is extremely sexist and actually hampers equalty.
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with chat like that it's the only way to get your audience wet
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don't put your nerd skillz down
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but couldn't bring myself to disparage against someone pointing out how far superior TNG is to SATC. Even grammatically.
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:54, Reply)
Two epic films, two good films and two crap films plus a load of offshoot video games and books is hardly a fair comparison to the enormity of Star Trek's back catalogue
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:12, Reply)
The entire Trek canon is obviously incomparably gigantic
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I don't know how to dougie. I was drunk and they were trying to teach me at my birthay party, it was embarrassing trying to learn, which was pointless anyway because it's a stupid dance.
alt: uuuuuggggghhhhhhhhh
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:11, Reply)
GAY BAR! GAY BAR! GAY BAR!
(I just needed to share that ear worm. Sorry. Bye.)
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:40, Reply)
At the GAY BAR! GAY BAR! GAY BAR!
*Dances like one of Monty's gyppoes.*
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:50, Reply)
Basically, Monty's strikethrough earlier is my favourite post so far, and this is technically a gay jibe, so I had to qualify it slightly further.
Bet you're glad you asked now
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 16:01, Reply)
I know how to fix shit, but not how pretty much any of the rest of the business work!
Star Wars all the way
(, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:49, Reply)
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