Let's talk about the oldest profession there is, prostitution.
What are your thoughts people? I have some friends who think it's abhorrent and others who regularly get involved.

Alt: Best sunday evening dinner? Not roast as that should be had at lunchtime not in the evening.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 18:41, 127 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Alt:
The best of all the sunday evening meals is a takeout.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 18:47, Reply)

evenin bro,
not the best start to the season eh. James looks pap.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 18:48, Reply)

No. Not the best of starts.
Thankfully, I was busy this weekend, so I never went.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 18:49, Reply)

Small mercies.
I am not looking forward to this season.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 18:56, Reply)

You say that now.
You wait until the season starts and you get a few good results early on...

Good weekend?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 18:58, Reply)

Have you seen the first months fixtures for the arse?
v good thanks mate, booked amsterdam and london and having a little dooby before top gear.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:01, Reply)

So top gear before Top Gear.
Are your planned trips business or drug/stripper/alcohol related?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:04, Reply)

last hoorah on the doobies before trying to quit.
figure 10 weeks in usa should sort out the detox.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:10, Reply)

When are you off to the land of the hamburger?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:14, Reply)

eo october
I think it might be good.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:15, Reply)

The eo of October. A fine date in October you'll struggle to find.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:16, Reply)

end of, sorry

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:28, Reply)

Is this to visit the English school?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:30, Reply)

yup, teaching for 8 weeks, two weeks observation.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:33, Reply)

I hope you get paid!

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:39, Reply)

do i fuck!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:52, Reply)

Sucker.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:03, Reply)

I trust they'll be paying for your flights, food and digs.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:16, Reply)

nope, costing me 2000

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:41, Reply)

If they kicked you in the face, would you say "thank you"?

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:41, Reply)

Only if Bob could pay them first.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:44, Reply)

and ask for more sweet kicking.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:45, Reply)

I don't see anything wrong with it as long as the prostitute is in the profesion via choice.
Sure, when you're with a tart, I imagine it's as clinical as getting a bed wash from an NHS nurse. I think you can't say that the punter is taking advantage, or the 'tart, it's different for each situation. Is it really any worst than those people who go with others for elaborate gifts and lavish lifestyles? To say 'worst' means there is something wrong, it's a simple exchange of service for money. I think the legacy of being a religious country continues to hound into the minds of people that there is something wrong. And also, I think it's wrong to lead someone on just for sex. It's just a natural bodily function, a natural urge, that the vast majority of people have.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:27, Reply)

As long as all the parties involved are consenting adults, what folk do in the bedroom is no concern of mine.
Legalising it and subjecting it to regulation, taxes etc. would make the experience less seedy all round, give both the tarts and the johns a stronger defence against being exploited, and provide an extra source of income for the state.

I wouldn't do it myself though, not for moral reasons but because I'm a tight get.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 19:31, Reply)

I think it's fine, as a business transaction.
It's supply and demand, isn't it? Someone wants to buy sex, and someone else wants to sell it. As long as the person is selling it by choice. And if there is any security, it should work for her, not the other way round.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:11, Reply)

So only women can sell themselves...
You learn something new everyday.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:15, Reply)

It's more usual, through, isn't it?
Rent boys not withstanding...
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:29, Reply)

I don't know.
I've never tried to book either a rent boy or a whore.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:44, Reply)

I believe you

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:47, Reply)

I'll bet the pier is teaming with whores.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:05, Reply)

I wouldn't know, I've still not been.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:06, Reply)

I'll bet even on the pier bash you'll fail to make it to the pier.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:07, Reply)

There's probably a force field that will hold me back

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:15, Reply)

Either that, or your ASBO.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:16, Reply)

we can deactivate it
by reversing the polarity
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:16, Reply)

Of the neutron flow?

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:28, Reply)

or the tide

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:29, Reply)

You could try getting rid of the mud at Weston.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:33, Reply)

or spiting in the wind

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:39, Reply)

I think it's pretty abhorrent
but that's my own opinion
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:23, Reply)

I would be curious to hear your reasons.
But understand you may feel like discussing them.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:57, Reply)

It's because Amberl is really a bearded lorry driver from Yorkshire called Peter.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:04, Reply)

no, no, I've met her and she's definitely a gurl
I suspect one with morrals that scum likr you and I don't share. But she seems inteligent so I'm curious.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:16, Reply)

There's quite a lot of research to indicate
that people who pay for sex tend to be more violent towards women, objectify them more etc. Most studies indicate the vast majority of prostitutes have been raped while working as a prostitute and physically abused by their customers. For the most part those who work as prostitutes have been damaged by life, are often victims of childhood sexual abuse and in a lot of cases have PTSD. These aren't problems that legalising it will fix.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:06, Reply)

Thanks.
Interesting stuff will look into to it at some point.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:23, Reply)

People should know what's on the other side of the sex industry,
rather than dealing in the idealistic 'what it could be like.' But it's not a big interest of mine
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:28, Reply)

nor mine, other than as a moral question
The difference between the ideal and the reality is a reason I've not tried it.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 8 Aug 2011, 0:08, Reply)

I have no moral objection in pricipal.
I avoid being involved in the practice because of reservations about the reality of it and because I think it would decrrease the number or women who would voluntarily sleep with me if I did and they knew.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:54, Reply)

There's a right dirty one I see touting for srs bizness down by Piccadilly station in Manchester, it might be your mum I dunno
Anyway she ain't got teeth and has various prison tattoo's, and looks like she does a lot of meth; but fair play she's been on TV and must end up with punters, that or she enjoys looking desperate in the rain outside a train station.
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 20:57, Reply)

There are issues with it
but mainly they revolve around the dangers for the prostitutes themselves. Plus, I think doing it would suck.

alt: right now I'd like to eat a chinese and a whole cheesecake
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:07, Reply)

I'm guessing the sucking would cost extra.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:07, Reply)

they'd charge more for a blow job than
sex? really?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:10, Reply)

I don't know.
I guessing that if you wanted both a blow job and sex, it would cost more than if it was just sex.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:11, Reply)

In principal I can't see anything inherently wrong with consenting adults paying for or getting paid for sex.
In reality it involves human trafficking and abuse and it's abhorrent. The vast majority of women in prostitution are problematic drug users. It objectifies people, be they male or female, and I don't consider objectification to be a good thing.

Alt: soup.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:08, Reply)

this is what I would have said if I wasn't tired and was more good with words
except the bit about soup. That bit's wrong
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:14, Reply)

Soup is where it's it.
Carrot and lentil with cumin and coconut milk tonight, oh yes.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:17, Reply)

soup is a thick drink
not real food
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:18, Reply)

I agree that it needs a solid accompaniment like decent bread.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:29, Reply)

I like Oasis soup.
You get a roll with it.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:31, Reply)

lti

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:31, Reply)

*cries*

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:32, Reply)

i'm hungry

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:31, Reply)

Eat something then, you daft mare.
alright Captain Cavy
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:48, Reply)

all right
After half a cup of tea I managed to persuade myself to cook supernoodles. I nearly forgot about them. Best go check again
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:49, Reply)

Tea, from a clean cup!

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:51, Reply)

cleanish
I rinsed out one I used earlier

i have a house inspection tomorrow morning :(
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:52, Reply)

How are the piggies this weekend?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:53, Reply)

right now they are sleepy pigs
I weighed them the other day. Full grown ones are meant to be between 700 and 1200 grammes. These guys are 4 months off that. Boson is just under, while Higgs is 1300g. He's a big pig.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:55, Reply)

So Higgs is almost ready for eating then!

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:57, Reply)

D:

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:58, Reply)

I've no idea what D: means.
I assume it is the face of someone who will get to enjoy roasted guinea pig in the not too distant.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:59, Reply)

it's a shocked frown
imagine I'm kind of pouting and doing sad-eyes, too. No one roasts my pigs
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:00, Reply)

Sorry Captain.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:06, Reply)

hehe
s'OK, just don't make me bring out my pig-defending guns
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:07, Reply)

also, who could ever be mean to a face like this
up2.it/ali/Higgs+drying1.jpg ?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:11, Reply)

Such a wise face.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:11, Reply)

I reckon that roasted guinea pig would taste alright

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:13, Reply)

Ask the Peruvians, they've been doing it for centuries.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:13, Reply)

so would roast dog

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:14, Reply)

+ spit

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:16, Reply)

It's your CD-ROM drive.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:00, Reply)

haha

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:06, Reply)

I wish I understood this objectification thing
I don't think I get it. Treating people as objects I guess, which is probably why I dont get it because I think we are objects, among other things. Ho hum. Sorry I won't be here to reply to any reply to this post, but I'll read any answers later on with interest.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:21, Reply)

When people start failing to recognise other peoples'
'personhood', reacting to people as their bodies rather than on an empathetic level, that's when shit gets bad. That's when people excuse treating others like shit. Surely you consider yourself to be more than your external appearance?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:26, Reply)

Would I like to be seen only as my body? no
Do I object to people noticing that I have one and reationg to it as the physical object it is? No.
I don't see that the one necessarily implies the other althou I can see how it can do. Cheers for the clarification.
/breif

Back in an hour.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:20, Reply)

I think it's when it's one without the other
i, personally feel weird when people comment on my physical form. I see it more like a machine that carries my brain around. But at least now people can comment on my tat - I'm cool with that.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:25, Reply)

I don't disagree
But I tend to see both mind and body of integral parts of who we are. Ther's an interesting conversation to be had about this, but now is not likely the time, not least as I am soon to head to bed and you may. Already be there
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:15, Reply)

no
I went to my own bed. It seemed more appropriate
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:24, Reply)

well I should hope so young lady!
We hardly know each other, what ever Darth may say.

Actually you'd be safe, I'm not in my bed andway.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:28, Reply)

*shrugs*
"Object" denotes passivity. Objectification suggests that individuality is being ignored. It's dehumanising. It suggests inferiority.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:27, Reply)

But what if the prostitute has REALLY BIG TITS?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:31, Reply)

Then she hopefully owns a really big bra.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:34, Reply)

Thank you.
This has helped me understand the meanings attached to the term. This in turn helps me understand a point of view I have often not.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:26, Reply)

The way I see objectification
Is when you talk about what you would do to a person, as if they had absolutely no say in the matter. I get this a lot when people talk about my boobs, as if there wasn't a person attached. I know I talk about them a lot, and I don't mean anyone joining in those conversations. I mean those people (and it's not always blokes) who go ' are they real? They're massive' just out of the blue.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:43, Reply)

Cheers b3th, more food for thought
Please feel free to tell me off if my silliness ever crosses the line.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 8 Aug 2011, 0:10, Reply)

I don't have a problem with it, or anyone getting involved in it.
But I wouldn't partake in a million years, half the enjoyment of shagging someone is the fact they actually want to shag you too. That said the hotel I stayed in in Turin last year was actually a giant brothel, and I got us kicked out of the place after bursting into one of the rooms and shouting 'AHAAAAAA!'. That was fun, I'd definitely do that again.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:42, Reply)

Alright Bazza.
Did you have it large down Tottenham last night?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:52, Reply)

I was at a house party in Dalstan, on the way to the tube station this morning we went to have a look.
Walked for what seemed like forever, got to Tottenham High Road eventually. It was like something out of a zombie movie, the amount of burnt out cars was mental. Never seen anything like it.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:55, Reply)

Was it like the Nigerian Whites had been on the piss down the High Road?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 21:56, Reply)

Yes in the same respect it was very civilised anarchy.
We went past JD Sports being looted, all the yoots were queueing up outside in an orderly fashion waiting to go in. How brilliant is that?
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:00, Reply)

this is when you need a camera

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:01, Reply)

I hope you treated yourself to a new coat.
Well, I say 'treated' I mean, 'helped'.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:06, Reply)

This man dem could barely see straight when I was walking though there this morning.
Plus I was wearing a Hawaiian shirt whilst literally everyone else in the area was head to toe in black, I reckon I'd have been the easiest and most hilarious arrest the police would ever make.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:09, Reply)

Maybe they thought you were like Magnum P.I and working undercover for the feds!

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:12, Reply)

Not with my lack of ability to grow facial hair.
My shirt was far worse than any Selleck has ever worn though, it's brilliant: a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/283550_120819324681161_100002592826021_129340_1030378_n.jpg

That's Dianne by the way, a lovely transsexual who tried to get me to do a gram line of ketamine in the women's bogs. I said no.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:19, Reply)

Dianne reminds me of Barbara the taxi driver from The League of Gentlemen

(Zoz prayed for twink on, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:47, Reply)

Like a weekend in Basildon then?

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:01, Reply)

it's called marriage isn't it?!
it would be fine if it were clean and fair. but this is only the case for a tiny portion of the business.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 22:27, Reply)

*hates to agree with Swipe again*

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:18, Reply)

"others" who get involved eh dr3wyork?
Eh? I get yer
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:02, Reply)

;et us spunk on yer tits! go on I'll give you a fiver.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:16, Reply)

chuck in a big mac and I'll let you come on my face

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:17, Reply)

do you want fries with that?
and by fries I mean penis
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:19, Reply)

only if it's small and mostly flaccid

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:23, Reply)

IAMYOURMAN

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:25, Reply)

and has a slice of gherkin

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:25, Reply)

I am vaguely considering taking it up as a side profession if my tutoring kids keep telling me they're busy at short notice.

(Poppet some assembly required., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:21, Reply)

charge them a cancelation fee

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:26, Reply)

'My vagina is unfilled. That'll be a fiver please."

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:28, Reply)

a fiver? bargain. I can probably afford two goes!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:29, Reply)

*clicks*
that'll confuse the dayshift
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:30, Reply)

Nah cos then they'll ditch me altogether to find someone else. .
and then I'll REALLY have to start walking the street corners at night.
(Poppet some assembly required., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:29, Reply)

PPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTT
You don't have to put on the study light, teach those kids for money, You don't have to work late into every night, PPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPEEEEEETTTT
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:31, Reply)

arguably one of my best posts and nothing! damn you critical bastards. Another tear soaked pillow tonight.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:36, Reply)

aww, it was lovely bobby
well done, you can have a silver star on your chart for trying so hard. Now if you ehave all day tomorrow and don't pull the girls' hair you can trade it up to a gold one
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:37, Reply)

are you sulking?
do you want it downgraded to red, again? turn that frown upside down!
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:43, Reply)

No sorry, was rolling a doob.
Silver star does me grand.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 23:45, Reply)