So, those Pikeys in Basildon.
Should be granted leave to stay after not bothering to get planning permission for ten years, or should they all be shot in the head and their graves tarmacced over?
(Bazongaloid, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:28, 166 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

I have no clue what you're talking about

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:29, Reply)

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/31/dale-farm-travellers-planning
(Bazongaloid, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:34, Reply)

only cunts read the Guardian

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:37, Reply)

We may be cunts.
But we read it and feel a high sense of smugness and superiority because of it.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:38, Reply)

that's a shit reason to feel smug and superior

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:39, Reply)

Says "smug because he has a beard"

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:48, Reply)

no, I tend to be smug for good reasons

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:50, Reply)

Ten years seems a bit excessive for nothing to have been sorted yet

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:37, Reply)

I can't decide which is shitter
your thread or dr3wyork's?
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:30, Reply)

have you commented in his?
if you haven't, then it's this one
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:31, Reply)

Ant & Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:33, Reply)

Last of the summer wine and cheese.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:42, Reply)

then you should have started a better one
full of truth
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:34, Reply)

One Brie Hill

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:35, Reply)

One foot in the Gruyère

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:37, Reply)

Edamdale

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:38, Reply)

Battlestar Taramasalata

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:43, Reply)

Ha ha
Star Trek: Deep Spiced Naan
(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:44, Reply)

that's a great one

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:47, Reply)

The Eggs Factor.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:52, Reply)

Holly-boakes
/bulimialolz
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:45, Reply)

bbc says that applications have been made for planning permission several times and not been granted.

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:31, Reply)

And in any other situation where planning was refused,
the people applying for permission would either have to give up on their idea of building what they wanted to build, or would have been ordered to tear down whatever it was they had built.

But the rules appear to only apply rather selectively to "travellers"
(Bazongaloid, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:34, Reply)

you may not have noticed
but they don't tend to live within the law. At least those ones are on land they own, rather than doing the same on some other poor bastard's land.

out of interest, if I'd said they should all be made to bite the kerb, would you have taken the humanitarian angle and said they shouldn't be kicked off?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:36, Reply)

I skipped over that story but I'll disagree with you if you want.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:36, Reply)

did you log in as one of your sock puppets to see rachel's thread?
did ya? did ya? huh? I bet you did!
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:38, Reply)

I don't have any sock puppets, they're shit and not funny.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:39, Reply)

yeah you do.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:40, Reply)

and anyway
all you'd have to do is log out
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:40, Reply)

And anyway why would I ignore someone just to read what they say.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:41, Reply)

I cannot remember the last time I logged out of here.
completely forgot that was an option. Have you finished the first book yet?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:41, Reply)

yeah, I've read a couple of other books since then
I read fucking fast. The next one should have arrived in the post by now...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:42, Reply)

I have just got to the bit where Jon finds out about Ned and finds the bodies.
should have it done by tomorrow. It is brilliant.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:43, Reply)

yeah, I really enjoyed it
best fantasy stuff I've read since I first read Robin Hobb's stuff.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:46, Reply)

I might skin up and have a little read now actually.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:49, Reply)

everytime someone posts how good it is
I feel a little bit vindicated
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:49, Reply)

why?
did you write it?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:50, Reply)

no, I just spent 10 years telling everyone they should
read it and how awesome it is. Suddenly it's like the whole world agrees with me :)
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:52, Reply)

They've been around for ages haven't they?
I definitely remember the second book coming out.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:02, Reply)

late 90s, i think
probably 1999 for the second one given where I think I was living when that one came out.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:05, Reply)

A quick wikipedia tells me 1998
I remember reading the first two, but no more
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:09, Reply)

Everyone in our house read the 3rd one when it came out
and as each person reached that bit you'd see them wandering round the kitchen looking forlorn
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:11, Reply)

what bit? what happens? oh god!!!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:18, Reply)

if she tells you I'm going to punch your face off

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:25, Reply)

I'm not that kind of person
it's OK
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:26, Reply)

like I'd tell you
I'm not that mean. Can't remember if it's the 3rd or 4th book in paperback. There's one bit you will think is that bit but then that bit happens :(
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:25, Reply)

but wouldn't it be cool if
I was GRR martin in disguise? It would explain why the last couple of books took so long
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:53, Reply)

Has anyone ever had zero replies before?
do I win a prize?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:39, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1337511
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:40, Reply)

change your name to ARTBITCH

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:40, Reply)

.
www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1337511
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:41, Reply)

Not clicking!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:42, Reply)

It really is a week of humiliation

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:41, Reply)

I am so glad I didn't take you up on your offer.
What a fucking nightmare. How's tricks?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:42, Reply)

I can send you a signed program if you want
All in all Arsenal got away with it from the home fans, you all shut up after the fourth went in. Based on what I saw down Highbury after the Liverpool game it's gonna be a season of misery.
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:46, Reply)

Well Liverpool are showing that a couple of seasons out of the Champions League
need not be a disaster. Wenger should go I think and Bring in Hiddink and Bergkamp. Although the board are also a fucking disgrace.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:48, Reply)

Wengers alright, apart from poor dog walking skillzors, you've just got a shower of shit players and need to spend big and the youth aint up to much

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:51, Reply)

Defence should be ok with the two new signings, I am expecting a midfielder by close of play today
and I think we should be ok then. I think 6th is a realistic target this season.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:54, Reply)

6th is the absolute best you can hope for, Spurs could easily do the double on ya if they get their act together, and no Champions League or Cash next season

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:59, Reply)

Fancy a little wager to make it a bit more interesting?
£50 says Arsenal finish 6th or higher.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:03, Reply)

I'll lay down ten million internet pounds

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:09, Reply)

c'mon it will be fun! you can afford it you merchant cunt

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:10, Reply)

Soz whilst having many vices betting ain't one, I've never been to a bookies in my life.
Pennys make the pounds etc etc /tight cunt
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:12, Reply)

fair enough misery guts
anyone fancy a bet?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:13, Reply)

If Wenger goes, I don't think you'll even finish in the top half of the table this season.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:54, Reply)

He has failed for the past six years, since Dein left signings and transfers have been woeful
he is adamant his project will work despite extensive evidence to the contrary and is not the only option for Arsenal. He was brilliant but the club needs a change to progress and stop this decline.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:58, Reply)

You do make a very good point here, who would you rather came in?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:14, Reply)

Kroenke and Ushmanov to sortit out so we have an owner, Hillwood to go, Gazidis to go,
dein back if Wenger stays or Hiddink with Bergkamp working beside him. Dixon, Keown, Adams to act as ambassadors and be in the dressing room on match days.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:20, Reply)

Rebuilding right from top to bottom?
Could well work, hope it does.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:23, Reply)

Me fucking too!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:25, Reply)

3 miles from where I grew up. 5 from where I live now.
In a council area that grants more space for travellers than any other in the South East.

They can stay anywhere legal as far as I am concerned, even if the legal site that is being suggested does happen to be nearer to where I actually live, but where they are is not legal so they can fuck off.

And so can Vanessa Redgrave.


Also, they aren't fucking travellers if they've built concrete homes and been there 10 years.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:42, Reply)

They all pay their taxes and are from a disadvantaged section of society, the planning rules need to take into consideration their human rights to a private family life in their now settled and thriving community

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:48, Reply)

Aw, you want to play, how sweet.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:51, Reply)

Nimbys like you with your narrow mindedness disgust me.
I do hope common sense and equity prevail with their retrospective planning application.
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:53, Reply)

Gypseys/travellers are scum, and I say this not from a hysterical Daily Mail reading point of view
but from one of experience.

They should be forcibly removed and their assets seized to pay the landowner compensation.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:43, Reply)

They do actually own the land.
They just had no legal rigt to build on it.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:44, Reply)

Well then they can live there in tents
i really don't see why we afford them the rights that we do, everyone knows they are thieving gits/cowboy builders/land thieves/tax dodgers etc etc...
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:46, Reply)

it's because they are a reasonable sized group of people
saying "no" if they are told to do something. There's fuck all anyone can actually do about that.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:48, Reply)

I'm with you up to a point.
It's complicated by the fact that some of the development is legal, so they are not trying to move that part, just the illegal part. But they are claiming this will split up families.

I still think fuck 'em. Move them all into the legal part and let them sleep four to a bed if they must and they can stay for all I care. But I don't see why they should get special treatment to have retrospective permission that has already been declined granted to live in the bits they shouldn't have built in the first place.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:50, Reply)

And while we're at it, what about those jews, blacks, women and gays?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:50, Reply)

OK, 'retard' (which is all I originally said) was a bit harsh
but that's such a 'rediculous' argument that I can't be bothered to engage on it.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:51, Reply)

If your starting point is a fundemental difference between one set of people and another
then yeah your argument isn't worth starting.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:53, Reply)

Good job that isn't my argument then isn't it.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:55, Reply)

You do know I replied to a thread that called them all "thieving gits/cowboy builders/land thieves/tax dodgers etc etc"
And my point was that saying that is, in my opinion, just as grossly disgusting as saying it about any other group of people. And if I hear "It's not all of them, I'm sure a lot of them are fine, it's just the ones I've delt with" then, well, I ordered a zinger tower burger from KFC the other week and it didn't have any zinger sauce, I'm not saying _all_ black people want to cheat me out of what I've paid money for, I'm not saying _all_ black people are trying to cheat me, and this one _isn't_ representitive of them all, it just gave them a bad name.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:59, Reply)

No, you replied to my point.
If you want to reply to Al, reply to Al.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:03, Reply)

ummm, no he didn't
he replied directly to Ape's post, which is the one he refers to
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:04, Reply)

Oops.
I stand corrected.

Apologies. I'll just go and pick these toys up now.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:05, Reply)

Such a spastic.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:11, Reply)

It's been said before.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:12, Reply)

What?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:53, Reply)

don't know why we didn't think of it before
CHiPs
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:54, Reply)

Hoummus and Away

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:19, Reply)

Bratzwurst

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:24, Reply)

Desperate House Wine

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:24, Reply)

Invader Zimfandel

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:30, Reply)

COPOUT ALERT!!!!!!!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:55, Reply)

Oh FFS
OK, my point is that half the people there have no legal right to be there and they have built a community in the full knowledge of this. They are now crying it's unfair to split up that community. Well fuck that, they should have built it legally.

There are many places in and around the area where there are legal sites for travellers. They have been offered options that they have refused to take, so it's reached where it is now.

I have no problem with them as people, and I've already said that actually, one of their legal options would be nearer to where I live than where they currently are and I would still be happy for them to settle there. (so I am not sure where Rory got his NIMBY claim from).

It's not like Laindon/Wickford/Pitsea are full of upright members of the community themselves but they do at least by and large live where they are legally entitled to, and I'm certainly not judging the travelling community as being 'scum' or worth less than any body else. They just should not be where they are under the current law and have always known this, so I'm not about to get all pussy liberal in their defence.

but to leap from that viewpoint to a 'what about the jews' is a whiny, ill thought out knee jerk reaction that isn't really worth the time I have just spent responding to.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:02, Reply)

the thing about the jews etc. wasn't in response to you
it was in response to Ape's comment about them all being tax dodgers etc.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:04, Reply)

yeah, I've just picked up on that.
Apologies all round.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:06, Reply)

one last thing and that will be the end of it
*belms*
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:09, Reply)

You're the kind of cunt who puts up a conservatory in a conservation area and sticks two fingers up at THE MAN

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:06, Reply)

I don't really give a fuck but thanks for the effort.
I hope you look back on that minute of your life and consider it a wasted one.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:06, Reply)

Just so you know how this place works, when you get a thread, the reply to it is the one under it and a bit nudged on to the right.
I was replying to the comment "everyone knows they are thieving gits/cowboy builders/land thieves/tax dodgers etc etc." that a lot of people here actually believe.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:07, Reply)

I've apologised twice now.
I think that's probably sufficient.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:07, Reply)

That's alright, also, just so you know, posts don't instantly appear, you have to refresh the page.
When I typed my reply to you your appologise wern't on my screen. No need to be uppity about it.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:09, Reply)

I apologise for my apology....

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:13, Reply)

Jeeves & Wooster(shire sauce)

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:09, Reply)

Lock Stock and Two Smoked Kippers.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:19, Reply)

that's not a tv show!
FAIL
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:21, Reply)

Yes it was.
www.imdb.com/title/tt0243714/
(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:22, Reply)

Quornblower

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:27, Reply)

Mince behaving badly.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:28, Reply)

Studio 60 on the Chicken Strips

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:30, Reply)

The West Buffalo Wings.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:30, Reply)

Seed-y:UK

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:31, Reply)

My Family (bucket)

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:32, Reply)

(miniature) Heroes

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:30, Reply)

a good pun
and a very strange mental image
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:28, Reply)

Who wants to be a Scallionaire

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:33, Reply)

The Jeremy Kale Show

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:33, Reply)

River Cottage Pie.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:34, Reply)

Chives & Wooster

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:20, Reply)

I've not really read up on the subject, but I like the "TRAVELLERS/GYPSIES ARE SCUM" lot so I can get self rightous about how they're a diverse group of society just like any other ethnic (for lack of a better word) group.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:52, Reply)

a diverse group that is breaking the law

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:53, Reply)

I'm pretty sure there are legal gypsy/travelers, who live on land they have permision and legal right to be on... that it's not 100% of them.
You're pretty much saying the equivilent, in regards to black people who break the law, that they're representitive of all black people.

Except their skin is white so it doesn't count.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:56, Reply)

I was referring to these ones in particular
who have flouted planning laws.

I have nothing against any culture or group. Cunts are cunts regardless of colour, race or culture.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:58, Reply)

People who enforce and design planning laws are often cunts as well.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:59, Reply)

that is all too true.
I have quite a bit of experience with those sorts
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:01, Reply)

I used to do planning enforcement work
Just sayin
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:02, Reply)

oi, I have propositioned you above.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:08, Reply)

QED

(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:11, Reply)

They are not an ethnic group
they are a group of people who have chosen to live outside of many of the laws of this country. Comparing them to blacks or jews is ridiculous.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:10, Reply)

Of course they are.
Definition is law is based on these.
(1) a long shared history, of which the group is conscious as distinguishing it from other groups, and the memory of which it keeps alive;
(2) a cultural tradition of its own, including family and social customs and manners, often but not necessarily associated with religious observance.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:15, Reply)

being a thieving git is hardly a social custom to encourage
By this definition long standing crime syndicates are an ethnic group
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:22, Reply)

don't be such a mafiaist, man.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:39, Reply)

but they smell funny

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:41, Reply)

Like spaghetti bolognaise

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:42, Reply)

hahahahaha
RL-LOL
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:43, Reply)

Don't spout shite.
Definition of ethicity is "common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage".

travellers have none of those. Romany gypsies may well, these aren't Romany gypsies, they are a bunch of people who wish to chose an alternative lifestyle. That doesn't give them any fucking right to break the law any more that it would give you the right to say that your alternative lifestyle of having sex with women against their will was something you should be allowed to do. You bloody tool.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:32, Reply)

not that being an ethnic group gives you any more right to break the law either, mind you.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:37, Reply)

No. it doesn't. Or it certainly shouldn't.
The law of the land ought to transcend the traditions of a culture.
( Kroney, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:39, Reply)

I don't like cases like that
basic humanity says it's wrong to split families up etc and to break up what appears to be a thriving community, but they've done it illegally in the first place, and granting them essentially retrospective planning permission is quite patently unfair to everyone who has been denied it, and just moved on.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:56, Reply)

I just watched Sucker Punch
it was kind of boring
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:05, Reply)

I agree, nice soundtrack though but it was pretty shitting pap.
looked great but lacked any actual content.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:07, Reply)

yeah
now I don't know what to watch. I'm trying to decide whether I should do some work...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:10, Reply)

Angry boys mate

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:12, Reply)

I'm going to watch Hot Rod
(not gay porn)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:24, Reply)

Brilliant film
I watched that a few months back.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:31, Reply)

I watched Hanna last night, that was good
I have Tron Legacy, Tucker & Dale versus Evil, and something else to watch the rest of the week. Source Code is out on DVD, might get that.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:22, Reply)

Source Code is excellent

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:24, Reply)

Source Code is an excellent film

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:24, Reply)

Does this mean we can be friends again

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:26, Reply)

if you can promise to stop being so shit

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:28, Reply)

I can't promise to try, but I can try to promise

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:30, Reply)

Tuckr and Dale vs evil looks hilarious. And Vipros is in it.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:26, Reply)

I'm way thinner than that guy now
and have different hair

he was also in Rise of the Planet of the Apes
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:29, Reply)

I know and spottier too.
I haven't watched that, I don't know why but I hate apes.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:29, Reply)

:((((((((

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:31, Reply)

fuck off you hairy nonce

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:33, Reply)

I may be damned and I may be dirty, but a nonce I am not

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:34, Reply)

it's not bad
considerably better than the first piece of shit remake
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:33, Reply)

They broke the law and refused to do anything about it
to the point that now they're up against eviction. If they're willing to comply with the law, then give them the time to do so. If not, kick them out.
( Kroney, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:14, Reply)

In the intervening years, 2005 I think, the settlement was
declared legal and within planning laws. Then reversed.

Fucking Essex NIMBY's.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:37, Reply)

Then I think that where the options are "split up a community" or "annoy some local nimbys"
I'd say honour the original planning decision.
( Kroney, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:40, Reply)

Bit late for that.
Shift them after a short period if you can but unfortunately the legal process doesn't really allow for that.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 14:50, Reply)

I have a question
The half that are there legally. If you buy a piece of land and build a home on it how are you a traveller? Surely you are a homeowner.

There's a big gypsy site about 5 miles from my town and the site is full of criminals and scumbags, they also refer to themselves as travellers which I find funny and most of them were born there and have never left the town.
( Peej, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 15:42, Reply)