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So the earth is actually warming or is it? Lets see how many of you people are climate change deniers now?
(PsychoChomp, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:31, 127 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

you know people still willl be,
Because peoples is dum.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:32, Reply)

I see the deniers are already commenting like mongs with verbal diarrhoea at the bottom of that article.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:34, Reply)

GERVAIS!

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:39, Reply)

Oh yeah, do we have to call them spackers now, or something?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:40, Reply)

I think 'Scopers' is the preffered term.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:42, Reply)

Yes.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:43, Reply)

Yes true, I quite like the fact this study was paid for by some of those people.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:34, Reply)

Then how come the weather is getting colder then eh?
So much for this "global warming"!
( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:34, Reply)

There is a difference between global warming and climate change
Fucked if I know what it is though.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:35, Reply)

One is global
and one is more to do with regional variation from established norms. I think.
(berk, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:37, Reply)

I'm assuming this is a subtle parody of the sort of idiotic argument the Clarksons of this world use.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:38, Reply)

Because we're entering into La Nina, which is the cooling part
of the El Nino/La Nina ten year cyclical period of warming and cooling. It's helping to offset the worst of the temperature increases caused by pollution. Also, where we are, the Gulf Stream is slowly being pushed away from Europe by meltwater from the Arctic, causing a general lowering of temperatures.

After about 2020 we'll be back in El Nino and temperatures will start spiking again.

I'm assuming you were being serious.
( Kroney, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:44, Reply)

He was being serious
he was talking about the fact that it's winter.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:46, Reply)

Oh God
*belm*
( Kroney, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:47, Reply)

People will just put their fingers in their ears and go "LALALALALALALALALALA"
And "Lord" Lawson will still be a cunt. Even if his daughter makes my willy do that funny thing.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:34, Reply)

What dribble a bit more piss once you've put it away? That's not Nigella Al, that's age.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:36, Reply)

Such as this one here:
"It is acknowledged by almost all relevant scientific bodies that the earth is getting warmer but that comes under the heading of Climate Change. I seriously doubt that man is having any really significant effect on climate. Until there is universal acceptance that mankind contributes to global warming I will continue to believe that this view is derived from biased analysis or misinterpreted data."

So unless every single other person in the entire world believes it's true, they won't.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:36, Reply)

*Goes straight to look at the lowest rated*

(PsychoChomp, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:39, Reply)

How the fuck does he get new labour into this?
Ah, here we go, an "independant" study by those who are in on the global warming con.

They wouldn't need this study if other scientists hadn't been dishonest about their findings, and now it's been verified by some other scientists, how very convinient.

I hoped with the death of new labour this lie would be exposed, sadly the loony liberals got their concessions on this then!
(PsychoChomp, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:41, Reply)

HAHAHAHA!

(Bazongaloid, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:43, Reply)

Oh, man, fucking hell.
Stop depressing me by repeatedly pointing out cunts like that exist.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:13, Reply)

I went to dinner with her brother/his son once.
He is a massive, massive cunt who wore a velvet Chinese-style 'Tang' jacket, which did not help his case.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:41, Reply)

Since she doesn't pose for sext photoshoots
I really can't see any point in that entire family.

All Nigel Lawson did was fuck the economy up the arse in the late 80s and then appear in interviews bemoaning the Euro.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:44, Reply)

He also managed a fairly successful diet
In fact, didn't he write a book on it?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:51, Reply)

Her beef stew recipe alone has saved her from the gas chambers
when I get into power.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:59, Reply)

I thought that there was no debate about the changing climate,
merely about how much of that is down to human activity and how much is cyclic change that we as a species have little or no influence on?

Or are really people who are actually denying our climate is changing?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:39, Reply)

There are a lot of people that deny the warming data,
but as that's become more and more accepted and accurate they move on to how much is human activity.
After that becomes more reasearched and understood they'll move on to something else.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:42, Reply)

Really?
Genuinely? admittedly I try not to converse with retards, but I wasn't aware of anyone who thought that thermometers had somehow become inaccurate over the last 200 years.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:55, Reply)

There was a lot of people banging on about Al Gore lying about the hockey stick graph on that film of his.
And people jumped on the UEA scandle. Not serious scientists but not just nutjobs on youtube. Politicians, pundits, that sort of thing.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:59, Reply)

And rightly so.
Not the conclusions the pundits drew, I mean, but people who behave like the UEA lot don't really help science's cause.

In any case, I struggle to regard a fair few climate change "scientists" as really scientists at all
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:07, Reply)

Top of the comments:
"While accepting that global warming exists I question the actual data. For instance how accurate was the equipment 200 years ago compared with today ? Have the same global 4000-odd sites been monitored continuously or have new sites been included possibly skewing trends?"

You may belm at this correspondent now.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:59, Reply)

Honestly, I'm amazed someone that stupid can use a keyboard.
It's actually quite sad that even at my age I still stand open-mouthed in wonder at the fucking stupidity of the human race.

Then again, Big Brother. So maybe when we hit the bottom of the barrel we were still accelerating?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:05, Reply)

You thought right

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:42, Reply)

There are plenty of people in America who dismiss any such claims as "alarmism"
I distinctly remember one chap replying to a post on a forum to say "if there is a problem with the earth's climate our scientists will sort it out".

The bulk of his post was used to defend the Bush Presidency, so he was obviously an idiot; unfortunately there are millions of idiots like him across the pond. They call themselves Republicans.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:44, Reply)

What we do to the planet must affect it somehow.
Chaos theory innit.
( girlinthehole, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:44, Reply)

Like my running causing the Japenese earthquake
and your norks causing the al-anese pants quake.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:45, Reply)

Thanks Ian

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:47, Reply)

Jurassic park didn't give an accurate explanation of chaos theory.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:47, Reply)

Dinosaurs find it difficult to grasp the simplest things

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:49, Reply)

because of those ridiculous arms.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:50, Reply)

I hope someone posts
'That was the joke' now
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:51, Reply)

'That was the joke' now

(Bazongaloid, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:51, Reply)

Oh!
Sorry.

I thought it was a brain size joke.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:51, Reply)

Quickly, edit your post to be about brain size.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:54, Reply)

That would have been the smarter thing to do.
I think it may be my brain size that is the issue.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:55, Reply)

(PsychoChomp, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:53, Reply)

Sorry seams to be the hardest bird.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:51, Reply)

Bohemian Cat-sody

(Bazongaloid, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:51, Reply)

are we doing songs and animals now?
Eye of the Tiger!
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:00, Reply)

That doesn't count, you need to change a word.
I'm not playing any more.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:02, Reply)

Freebird

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:07, Reply)

Iron Lion Zion

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:09, Reply)

you ain't nothing but a hound dog

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:10, Reply)

what's new pussycat?

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:10, Reply)

crazy horses

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:10, Reply)

The disappointing ITV spinoff series

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:51, Reply)

I think that would have been a lot less disappointing that the original series.
I still wouldn't watch ITV though.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:55, Reply)

Little fingers innit?
They can't count properly
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:54, Reply)

I watched a Horizon programme about chaos theory therefore I am an expert.

( girlinthehole, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:55, Reply)

I enjoyed that a lot
i missed Dr. Jim on BBC 4 last night annoyingly
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:58, Reply)

well of course it'll show a temperature increase
their weather station is at an airport
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:48, Reply)

It didn't book a package holiday to the Costa Del Sol.
/not letting the fact that you may have a valid point get in the way of my joke.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:51, Reply)

I'm in favour of a bit of global warming
I hate cold weather, and everyone looks better with a bit of colour
(DeeDee, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:52, Reply)

Tell that to Paul Eddington

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:57, Reply)

Or Dawn French

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:03, Reply)

hahahaha

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:06, Reply)

Or Philip Lawrence

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:09, Reply)

There isn't a single person in the world who is a climate change denier.
there are, however, millions who are man-made climate change deniers. This article won't address a single issue of theirs.

All this vastly funded study did was prove that the thermometers that everyone else used really were probably right. In fact, it will actually add to the sceptics case because it links global temperature to North Atlantic temp fluctuations - i.e. warm/cold currents - which has been the mainstay of the scientific sceptic argument for years.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:53, Reply)

Whether it is real or not (and it is)
All the proposed actions to mitigate it are good things in their own right, so we should do them anyway. Anyone who disagrees should be turned into biofuel.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:56, Reply)

these people have an agenda and therefore twist the evidence to prove their theory
rather than using the evidence to come to a sensible conclusion.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:57, Reply)

Just like anyone and everyone else with any kind of agenda, then...

(berk, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:01, Reply)

So do those that support the theory of man-made climate change, though
Frankly it's the most fucked up branch of science available to humanity. Certainly, it's the only one where those that question it are treated as pariahs regardless of what evidence they offer. It's not really science at all any more.

For the record, the best stance is TLiC's one. And anyone, scientist or otherwise, who claims to have "proved" climate change is man-made or isn't man-made is a lying charlatan cunt. Proof is for courts. Evidence is for scientists. And the global climate is far too complex for anyone to extrapolate meaningful conclusions from any amount of evidence.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:03, Reply)

Woo!
Wait, do you mean "do those things" or "mulch the idiots“ ?
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:19, Reply)

I think either works fine.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:22, Reply)

As for deniers
I usually wear 40-60 denier tights

pun lol!
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:58, Reply)

Do they belong to your sister?
/still flogging a dead Bert
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:01, Reply)

yeah they do
I'm always putting my penis in her for some reason, can't help myself
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:02, Reply)

Aha! You fell into my clever trap!
I knew you'd admit it eventually. Or something.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:05, Reply)

I think we've all worn our sisters underthings from time to time
It's perfectly natural. Isn't it?
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:07, Reply)

I hope you mean clothes
pervert
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:08, Reply)

*sings "walking round in womens underwear"*
/previous thread homage
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:21, Reply)

Al-bert Fish

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:02, Reply)

Ha ha.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:05, Reply)

the best bit about autumn/winter
is getting to wear nice tights. i like those ones they have at m&s which look as if you are wearing sexy slutty stockings, but secretly are comfortable fat-ass granny warmers without the hassle of hold-ups that fall-down or suspender belts.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:06, Reply)

Ypu won't pull homosexual gym addicts with that attitude

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:08, Reply)

funny you should say that
we nearly got thrown out of the cinema, he reacted so well to them.

he was probably picturing himself in them.

i can slag him off now it's over!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:10, Reply)

I have a horrid mental image :s

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:15, Reply)

is it a buff gym addict wearing nothing but slutty tights
and bulging out at the seams?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:16, Reply)

GO AWAY

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:16, Reply)

Don't lie. You're wanking so hard right now you damn near pulled your own cock off.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:20, Reply)

Yeah
suspenders are for the bedroom only, otherwise they're a complete pain
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:08, Reply)

they really are. see also thongs.
why can't men have a fetish for dishcloth grey marks and spencers 5 for a tenner pants instead?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:10, Reply)

There will be a man somewhere that does.

( girlinthehole, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:10, Reply)

probably a b3tan

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:11, Reply)

here I am!!
I love my girlfriendses skiddies
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:11, Reply)

hi wormulus

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:12, Reply)

I'm all for plain, simple underwear.
Over the right body, of course.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:12, Reply)

lots of guys like very pure simple white cotton pants
i agree with this, as they are comfortable, but i always think it is edging a bit near a schoolgirl fetish.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:13, Reply)

This is what worries me about the whole 'white knickers' thing
See also the 'fully shaved' thing and the 'school uniform' thing.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:16, Reply)

Ian Tough really was a kinky fucker

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:31, Reply)

It's really just that school's when guys started getting turned on by girls,
it doesn't make them a paedo. That's a tremendously simplistic interpretation of it.
( Kroney, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:50, Reply)

Nonce

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:54, Reply)

Paedo

( Kroney, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:57, Reply)

Touché
Les enfants
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:59, Reply)

I'm not so into white
unless the person is really quite dark skinned, tbh. I don't think it's really a schoolgirl fetish, though, even if people are into plain white. Boys don't really get to see girls in their smalls at school, so schoolgirl fetishes tend to revovle around uniform etc, surely?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:17, Reply)

I did on a fair few occasions.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:30, Reply)

Monty, you are a role model to us all.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:32, Reply)

I'm with you on thongs but I like wearing stockings and suspenders in every day.
If you get those 6-strap deep suspender belts, you know the old fashioned ones, you feel like Sophia Loren, or Marilyn.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:46, Reply)

Not if you cycle to work, it's not :(
The best bit about autumn/winter is cardigans. I'm not even sure you can get a slutty cardigan, so it's just the comfortable fat-ass granny warmness for me.
(berk, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:08, Reply)

Cut nipple holes

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:10, Reply)

the best bit about autumn/winter
Is the seasonal food. Eat properly and you are less likely to get cold (within reason).
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:10, Reply)

The best thing about winter is going snowboarding/skiing
I love being in the mountains so so much, the fresh crisp air, beautiful fresh snow and bright sunshine is the cure to all ills
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:12, Reply)

Never done either.
Can't now due to the metal in my lower back from the impact of falling - same reason I can't play rugby anymore.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:15, Reply)

Game of scrabble?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:17, Reply)

Does your back tingle when you walk past your microwave?

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:17, Reply)

No but it has set off the airport detectors at Tel Aviv and Frankfurt as their detectors are more sensitive
Tel Aviv for obvious security reasons & Frankfurt as that was where the Lockerbie bomb was planted.

When I used to travel a lot for work I used to carry an x-ray copy with me. All other airports have been fine.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:24, Reply)

^this, so hard it could cut glass.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:18, Reply)

*fives*
I was lucky enough to spend an entire season in Val d'Isere once, 26 weeks of back to back snowboarding, bliss.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:20, Reply)

My brain's not up to much today
so imagine I made some hilarious joke about standing back to back with someone while snowboarding, and how that would be very difficult.

kthnxbai
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:22, Reply)

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Is that ok?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:22, Reply)

It's a start.
Also, fuck off, Captain Sarcastic.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:28, Reply)

Good man.
I'm going to do that as a sabbatical once I've got enough books and papers that I really need to write..
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:23, Reply)

Oh, this too
lots of interesting soups and stews and crumbles. And sloe gin. Mmm.
(berk, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:29, Reply)

Whenever I see the word 'deniers'
I always read it as the tights thing, instead of people who deny stuff. Then I feel silly.

I know we're on the brink of another ice age, but we're also affecting our ecosystem by causing global warming. I think I get that the net effect of this will be lots of weather upheavals, tsunamis, cyclones, earthquakes and shit, but I really haven't read enough about it to have a proper grasp of the situation.

I should really start watching Newsround again - they always knew how to break the complicated shit down for morons like me.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:13, Reply)

Haha!

( girlinthehole, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:14, Reply)

my grandad calls the winter tog duvet "the 50 denier quilt"

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:47, Reply)

I'm not sure
...but there's no harm in NOT polluting the air around you.

However, people have been banging on about being 'green' since at least the early 90's. That graph shows that despite all the 'green' cars, and 'green' taxes, that the steep curve continues to be steep, so in all, being 'green' hasn't made a blind bit of difference.

If anything, it could be argued that the graph shows that it's NOT a man made occurrence.
I also think the term 'deniers' and it's obvious connotations lends credence to the 'denier's' theory.
(dchurch bah, Mon 24 Oct 2011, 21:05, Reply)