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Let's get religious.Are you religious? Do you believe in any kind of god/alien/skyman/etc ? What do you reckon 'bout stuff like that?
Alt: How cool is this article ! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Imaginary_Beings
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:17,
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People that believe in deities are idiotsalt: tl:dr
altalt: yr mum
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:20,
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I have little enough spare time in my life without dedicating any of it to religionI can't prove that there's a little man inside my Xbox playing the opposition on FIFA or the Covenant on Halo any more than I can god, but it's more fun trying.
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I can't remember the quote exactly, but I like this one...."Technology sufficiently advance enough to someone is as indisguinchable as [magic/religion] is to you."
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:29,
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magic is much cooler than religioni mean, which would you rather be, a wizard or a priest/rabbi/mullah?
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rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:32,
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:37,
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Wow, that's me toldI'll go away and think about what I've done now
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i was pretty "live and let live" about individuals who want to believe, although i think it's at the root of all political and world evil, that's because it gets abused as an excuse by the evil and powermadbut when my mum was dying, her school (she was the headmistress, not her school from when she was little, that would just be weird) sent along the priest to give her the last rites. you had this gorgeous slim fit healthy happy 54 year old woman who one minute loved her family and her job and her friends and her new grandson... and the next minute was collapsed into a living corpse... and this old man in a dress telling you that it was god's will and it was for the best?
it was hard not to bite his face off (i didn't, i fetched him a cup of tea and a custard cream). i've been quite hostile about religion since then.
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rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:25,
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that sucks harder than that Priest's choir boys(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:26,
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It's not as bad as my tale of woe, below.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:28,
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don't you know the joke?"why do all choir boys have centre partings?"
make parting motion in front of your crotch.
"good boy".
the implication being it's from having their head stroked as they give the suckjob. now don't make me explain my jokes, that's a cuntish thing to do!
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rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:36,
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However, turn that a bit further, and the thought of the condition she's in now, it's not nice to think that's how its ended.I reckon when we die its like we're dreaming, and sometimes those dreams break through and you can be with the passed person when you dream. On that basis, I'm having an affair with Queen Victoria.
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:32,
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wellif you see someone in a coma like that, it's pretty damning for any kind of spiritual/religious belief. it's literally like a broken machine. horrific.
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rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:39,
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I'm not religious myself, but I don't mind if other people are.Alt: Borges was deadly.
Alt Alt: Dunno, like.
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Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:25,
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How can there be a God,when I just found the teabag still in the bottom of my cup of tea?
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:28,
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The little brown bastards.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:34,
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I prefer it with the bag in, personally.(
G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:33,
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I don't see why everyone doesn't get one, having a shit is so inconvenient at times.(
G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:35,
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Wow, the "brownies" part of that wikipedia page likklebitracistifyouaskme.(, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:28, Reply)
I don't believe in anything or anyone I don't even really believe in you lot, there's no evidence for you, just a load of text on a grey background. I'm increasingly worried I've just been shouting into a grey tube for the last few years.
Alt: .5 megacools
AltAlt: got a friend visiting for the next couple of days, so that'll be quite fun. Drinking ahoy.
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Theoban What of it, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:29,
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I'm increasingly worried about what you do with your rolled up, printed out b3ta tube when you're not shouting at people through it(
glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:11,
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Don't believe in any Gods but fairly happy that "out there" will be other civilisationsAltAlt:
Payday
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:30,
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£800 worth of overtime today\o/
Shame I've got to shell out £5K really
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:39,
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are you some sort of tupperware salesman?(
glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:11,
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“Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest”(
CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:31,
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I find it utterly fascinating that the need which religion fulfils is so strong that it overrides reason in literally millions upon millions of people.Many of whom are in other ways intelligent, rational people.
That is some weird shit yo.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:32,
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I know nothing of this "depeche mode" soz(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:33,
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Part of the make up of humans.Hard wired into us, having no faith is either a relativley abnormal state of mind which is a very recent evolutionary change. Or it's a product of our education system.
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it's hardly biological is itIf you had an island of people where, no religion was ever taught, and extensional questions were answered with scientific reasoning, then no religion would form.
"there is no such thing as a Christian child, only a child with Christian parents"
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:36,
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Every tribal society cut off from the rest of the world for generations has proto religious myths.Creation myths, after life etc. And yes it's biological, and neurological.
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Tribal society. I'm suggesting we section off a group of people with modern scientific knowledge, not a "primitive" tribe(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:40,
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Yes, well as great as that suggestion is, I don't really see what you're getting at.(, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:42, Reply)
He is saying that religion is a way of explaining the seemingly inexplicableand if you isolated people with no background bias and taught them science, the need for religion wouldn't appear.
I don't see why that's so hard to understand, it's perfectly logical.
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Kroney, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:45,
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THANK YOUobviously this is not fool proof, but it would vb interesting
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:47,
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But he says it in response to my original point which was, it's hard wired, having no religion is relativley rare and either something that is being dropped through natural selection OR because we have modern education and scientific method to get round our innate need to answer the inanswerable.
His argument seems to be No you're wrong because: "we have modern education and scientific method to get round our innate need to answer the inanswerable YOU SPASTIC"
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You seem to be saying that religion is in the nature of manwhereas what I think you mean is that the need for explanations is.
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Kroney, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:50,
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I was pointing out that it clearly isn't hardwired, no one bilogically inherits a religeous beliefthey may inherit it from their parents and surroundings, but they are not born with it. Hence the idea that if you remove all traces of religion then a society could form with out it.
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:51,
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None ever have though.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:54,
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Because they need to know the answersnot having access to the real answers, they make up stories. That is how all religions form.
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Kroney, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:55,
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Can't argue therebut if you're brought up to look for scientific answers, then those are the answers you'll seek.
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Kroney, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:59,
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Of course, but far more have now been answered than at any point in human historythe chances of a Jesus figure occurring in the 21st century are slim to none, for exactly this reason.
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:02,
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There's nothing clear about it either way.It's a hugley contentious thing to research. But there's pretty decent evidence and theories that it is innate and instictual and that it gave a competitive advantage and was thus evolved. religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/12/religious-belief-is-human-nature-huge-new-study-claims/
www.amazon.com/Faith-Instinct-Religion-Evolved-Endures/dp/B003B3NVZY
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Problem is everyone has been tainted with religious belief i their lifetime, you'd need a controlthe island of non-religion mentioned earlier, to truly investigate this argument.
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:03,
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But the people on the Island would have to never speak to another human?(, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:06, Reply)
exactly, they are separated away from the rest of humanity and it's religious pressures and historythis would probably have to be more of a thought experiment than one that could be implemented
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:10,
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well it could be done, but it'd be a painin the same way it was a pain to build the LHC.
I don't have the funds at the moment to run this I'm afraid.
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:18,
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Just kidnap a load of kids from the local primary school.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:21,
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Ok, I'll try and put it simply for youI'm suggesting a group of people isolated from all religious knowledge and text, that form a society based on science, where existential issues are answered with facts and theories, not stories. Would not create a religion for it's self.
Religions sprung up to answer fundamental questions about human existence and were manipulated for political gain; we can now answer many of those questions thus there is no need for religion. An isolated group of people with this point of view and without the weight of religious history upon them would most likely not create a new religion as they would have no need for it.
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:47,
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So what is the scientific explanation for why we are here?(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:51,
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The incredibly lucky consequence of a incredibly unlikely string of incredible evolutionary coincidencesI don't see how that makes us less special than "some ineffable being wanted some monkeys to worship him".
Rather the opposite, in fact.
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Kroney, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:52,
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No, they are usually tied together in religions.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:59,
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They're tied together in my answer above. It answers both "why" and "how"Which is what I meant by not mutually exclusive.
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Kroney, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:02,
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There are as many holes in that explanation as there are in the Garden of Eden story.(, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:02, Reply)
Well big question for the christian creation myth "what was there before God?"Has a direct equivilent of "What was before the big bang"
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look you're tolling and that's fine.but you know as well as we know, that while there may be holes in the scientific explanation for life, the universe etc scientists except the holes exist actively look to fill those holes with new knowledge and understanding.
religion says, "we don't know something therefore it was supernatural" which is igorant and lazy
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:07,
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I'm not trolling. Obviously I know that, but saying people won't turn to religion because they'll have a foundation in science to answer their questions. When there's a number of questions that either can not, or have not been answered by Science and you think your Island children will not fill in the blanks themselves?
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I think they'll be too busy getting fucked on the local hallucinogens.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:16,
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not if you teach them that the blanks may one day be filledin the same way that people 2000 years ago didn't understand disease (god is displeased), the universe (god made it from papier mache)or even how our bodies work(God does magik in my tummy)then in 2000 years maybe we will know what came before the big bang.
just becasue we don't know something, doesn't mean we never will
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:17,
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Just because one doesn't exist, doesn't mean it won't exist and that knowledge gap should not be auto-filled by the supernaturalalso, i would counter and say, why does there need to be a reason?
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:52,
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In your original post you referred to 'extensional* questions'Natural curiosity, that's why.
*I assumed you meant 'existential'
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:58,
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you know what i mean by now...Just because the question exists, doesn't mean that there is necessarily an answer.
It's a bit nihilistic, but there you go.
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:00,
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Often, there's also a number of types of epilepsy brain injurys and disorders that cause deeply religious feeling(, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:43, Reply)
My deeply religious feelings cause me to inflict serious brain injuries(
sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:45,
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Nonsense.My evidence: the history of the human race
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:57,
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I believe in God, but i'm not an overly religious nutbagI dont like talking about it here because someone always calls me an idiot and tries to argue and convince me there is no god, which is funny because I dont try to force my beliefs on them, which they hate yet here they are doing the same to me
ugh
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Lisette von Falcon, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:35,
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You're an idiot, there is no God.It is important that you change your worldview to mine immediately.
Edit: fucking hell I need some more sleep.
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:37,
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Militant atheists are just as tedious as any other kind.(
G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:38,
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and I never saw one on the high street with a loud haileror fucking a choir boy
or supporting the Nazis
or killing people in africa by teling them condoms are bad.
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CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:44,
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Well the next time I go to church I will make sure I tell everyone we shouldnt do those thingsIm glad you people are here to correct my awful behavior
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Lisette von Falcon, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:02,
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you're alright, al's not here todayand that's about the 3rd time i've mentioned him. it's no fun when he's not here to see it.
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rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:38,
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i love al like a vegetarian loves baconlike a lesbian loves cock
like an umbrella loves the sunshine
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rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:51,
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Er, I fucking love baconMost people who give up meat don't do so because they dislike the taste
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5.9.83.79/questions/offtopic/post1879232
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:39,
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Woah can you please stop stuffing your insane beliefs down my throat?Jesus christ, fucking fundies. You see this shit?
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Theoban What of it, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:39,
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Good m'manGot a new phone and a ukulele in the same day.
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Two Hats 🎩🎩, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:51,
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I got a new mouse and some judge dredd comics yesterdaywe are best at ordering stuff
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Theoban What of it, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:54,
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SWEETI could do with a new mouse for work. I'm a false economist when it comes to these things...I always buy cheap ones 3 or 4 times a year.
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Two Hats 🎩🎩, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:57,
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Careful, I learned last week that this place frowns on MOUSE CHATThere's a narrow list of topics for talk roudn here it seems
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Theoban What of it, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:06,
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how do you break 3 or 4 mouses/mice a year?(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:09,
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Atheists can be the most aggressively "religious" of the lotThat Dawkins bloke is like the Spanish Inquisition
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People say thisBut I've never had an atheist turn up on my door and try to convert me
Never had an atheist standing in town covered in shouting at me and telling me I'm not going to hell because it doesn't exist
Never been told off by family members for taking Darwin's name in vain
I think rather that Dawkins is a tit, and lots of internet atheists are smug shits, but generally it's the religious who tend to be most 'religious'
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Theoban What of it, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:42,
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He's not even that bad, he's just grumpy and stubborn.If every religious leader was ONLY grumpy and stubborn it wouldn't be too much of a problem.
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I do think a lot of atheists take it waaaaay too far and whine about 'oppression' which plainly doesn't existAnd also think that they're superior just because they don't believe, which is utter shite.
But still, it's just annoying. That's all, not like telling AIDS ridden regions of the world to lay off on the condoms.
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Theoban What of it, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:48,
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silly Theo, are you not listening?it's just as bad!
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CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:52,
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He's much better on Facebook than the pope though(
G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:58,
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you are aware of what the Spanish inquisition actually did?Fairly sure Dawkins has killed and tortured less people.
Edit: Inquisition: 3000, Dawkins: nil.
spastic.
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CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:46,
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Nowt wrong with soft furnishingsDon't you discriminate against his sofa choices
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Sorry, agreeing with this lot ^Being outspoken and opinionated isn't quite the same as thousands of years of oppression and genocide.
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Two Hats 🎩🎩, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:48,
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And, see, you're all lining up to tell me about it(
Lisette von Falcon, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:52,
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mostly calling Local a spazyou've been perfectly sensible
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CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:54,
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No we're notWe're just arguing that lecturing about not believing in god is not quite as bad as torturing people in the name of catholicism.
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Two Hats 🎩🎩, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:55,
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Certainly not as much fun.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:03,
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Dawkins is doing it because if everyone realised that there is no Godand this is it, and this is the only shot we have. The advancements in science, medicine and space travel would be astronomical. Where as the JW's who knock on my door every fucking week are doing nothing to advance society.
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Peej, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:49,
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Admittedly by trying to disprove your point we've all acted in a way that sort of verifies your pointBUT FUCK IT
YOU'RE WRONG
I'M GOING TO EAT THIS DESK
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Theoban What of it, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:50,
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Bit confused hereA quick review of the replies here reveals more historical analysis than Monty Python jokes. What in the name of hell are you lot playing at?
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No it doesn'tSorry, is this a full argument or just the half-hour?
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Nope, come from nothing, go back to nothingThe idea of a 'higher being' just doesn't make sense to me. I'm not about to look down my nose at someone that does believe though, anymore than I would appreciate a person of faith doing the same to me.
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Two Hats 🎩🎩, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:41,
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EeeeeexactlyThe bit inbetween birth and death is the bit we should be more concerned about.
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Two Hats 🎩🎩, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:49,
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Damn straightPossibly there is some kind of immense spiritual high to be attained by a lifetime of worship, but drugs are quicker
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I find your lack of faith in me is disturbing(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:48,
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Look, you're differentIf I had the slightest shred of evidence that God was harder than Chuck Norris, I'd go to church tomorrow.
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Two Hats 🎩🎩, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:50,
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Please say this to the next christian who accosts you in the street on on your doorstep!(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:54,
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So there IS a question that the bible can't answerIs God harder than Chuck Norris?
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Two Hats 🎩🎩, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:56,
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There are others tooIt's fucking useless on the subject of who was the best James Bond
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This deserved more of a responseI'm saddened
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:11,
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nah, I'm not a cunt in real lifeI could be an internet Pope
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:11,
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Clearly you haven't read itRevelation 24 verse 16
"And lo, there came from amongst the tribes of Celts one who was to set the standard for all who were to follow, and his name was Con-nery."
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*sigh*Verse 24 onwards
"And the Lord said, mark well this Bond, for all that come after him shall be his inferiors, even the ones with the acting eyebrows. "
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Timothy Dalton and I'll batter everyone that laughs at me for it.*glares*
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Kroney, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:09,
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Difficult to judge Dalton as he never really got a decent crack of the whipTwo films, one of which was shite. Nothing to go on.
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By 'good', do you mean 'formulaic and shit'?
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:12,
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I am not surprised that the need for religion is so prevalent at all.Man's survival instinct is so strong and the fear of death so pervasive, that I'd be more surprised that some means of fooling yourself into thinking "it's ok, I won't *really* die" didn't exist.
That said, I think it's for people of weak character and the way it's hijacked by people to justify war amongst other things is repugnant.
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Kroney, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:42,
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Not only do I not believe in God(s)but I do look down my nose at people that do because they are fucking retarded. How can my aunt with degrees from Cambridge, Oxford and Bristol who is doing her PHd believe in God? She's supposed to be an intelligent woman!
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Peej, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:51,
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Because she's scared of dying, PJ.That's all it is. It's rather sad when you look at it from that perspective.
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Kroney, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:53,
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My friend's dad died of a brain tumour a couple of years ago.He was totally unafraid and at peace with it because he knew he was going to heaven.
I'm a teensy bit jealous of this lack of fear.
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:05,
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Or perhaps the tumour eat his fear part of the brain(
sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:07,
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He was pretty confused for the last year of his life.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:12,
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I think it's nice if a person has a belief that helps them make sense of the universebut it should be an individual thing. Any group belief is eventually going to end up creating fundamentalists, and they're the main reason that religion is 'fucking shit'.
Them and the corrupt kiddy fiddlers.
AltAlt: I got sent a link to a good job vacancy last night. Someone, somewhere, doesn't think I'm *completely* unemployable.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:56,
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Agreeing with this^my bile is reserved for religion, not faith.
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CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:02,
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i have faith in the ground beneath my feet and the air that I breath(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:05,
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I don't understand either of these comments.(
b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:13,
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soham_murders
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:14,
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holly_Willoughby
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:19,
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But it doesn't help them make sense of the universeit just makes them think they have made sense of it. Hence my main problem with it. It slows down the advancement of mankind
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Peej, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:21,
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But if your own personal rationalisation of the 'reason' or 'purpose' behind our existence (even if that reason is 'random chaos') makes you feel betterwhere's the harm?
If we only had people concerned with scientific advancement, we'd have no great art.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:23,
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The harm is when people spend hundreds of years purposely slowing the progression of manbecause God wouldn't approve
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Peej, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:34,
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I often wish I did believe y'know?It'd be nice to have something to blame.
Also, I do wonder how a lot of people deal with having friends/family who don't believe.
I mean, if I believed, truly believed, that if you didn't follow my god and go to my church, you would BURN IN SUFFERING FOR ALL ETERNITY, I'd be a bad person if I didn't spend all my time trying to convert people.
I know the hardline Muslims get a lot of bad press but at least they're honest about their beliefs, not this CofE Tea and Cakes 'oh it's all fine we can be a multi faith society' bullshit. Bring back the hellfire and damnation, that's what I say.
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Theoban What of it, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:57,
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There is something to be said for fundamentalistsat least they have courage in their convictions. The CofE and other watered down religions simply undermine themselves as they evolve.
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 11:59,
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Aye, the CofE is generally lovely now but it's lost its fire, its soul.I tell a vicar I don't believe and he should be trying to convert me, telling me I'll be damned if I don't. Instead it's all hugs, handshakes and weak smiles.
I think people crave absolutes, they want someone bellowing fire and hell from the pulpit, not 'and remember Thursday night we have Gerry who'll be giving us a talk about his pigeons.'
It's become a WI offshoot these days.
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Theoban What of it, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:03,
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yeah, Fuck Gerry the pigeon fingering cunt(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:04,
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He feeds them booze soaked raisins then buggers themSo I hear
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Theoban What of it, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:05,
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The CofE was made purly so a bloke could fuck more women without going to hell.There's something to be said about that.
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:08,
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Can you imagine if Henry VIII wanted to change the Church so he could marry a bloke?The CofE wouldn't be so fucking prissy now, would it?
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:11,
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I like dthat one.And the one about all those celebrities making a mockery of marriage.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:14,
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and they'd all wear dresses and get blowjobs from choirboys(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:19,
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I like soul music - does that count?(
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:32,
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Yes - I have two older sisters.(
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 28 Feb 2013, 12:38,
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