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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Good morning to you all.
Speaking as the villain of /OT, professional old person and purveyor of fine unpleasantness since 1854, I ask you to name the heroes of the modern age.

I nominate fat-tongued mockney imbecile Jamie Oliver for his school meals drive and for staffing Fifteen with society's rejects - we've done this one before, yes - and terminal dullard Bill Gates for his charitable donations. Who else is a Good Thing in these dark times?

Also done before but RIP Smiley Culture - you were a fucking GENIUS.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:01, 244 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
For a horrible moment there I thought Carol Smiley had died before I got a chance to bang her massive mouth
Modern heros -David Cameron and Nick Clegg

EDIT: and of course Maggie for teaching those dirty Northerners a lesson
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:02, Reply)
Also don't forget their CRONIES, working tirelessly and frequently thanklessly behind the scenes.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:03, Reply)
Ah, Carol Smillie (that's how it's spelt). She took over from "the lovely Angela" as letter-turning eye-candy on Wheel of Fortune after one series.
I know this because my Dad was on series one, winning a car, an answerphone (this was 1988), a set of pots and pans which my parents still use and a trip to Alton Towers. Which sort of makes my £2,610 look a bit paltry.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:04, Reply)
what sort of car was it?

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:05, Reply)
Now bear in mind that this was the late '80s when this car was new and relatively sparkly,
and yet to be forever tainted by the indelible stain of chav "culture".

Vauxhall Nova
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:07, Reply)
ha ha ha ha
That car didn't do so well in Spain as nova means "won't go"
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:08, Reply)
Haha, that's genius!
When I passed my test in '96 it became the only car I've ever owned, to date. I drove it for 9 happy, carefree months, and then moved to Norwich where such contraptions are banned
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:11, Reply)
I had a Nova, fucking great little motor
until I locked the keys in it and tried to get in via the sunroof. While trying to prise one of the plastic bolt covers off with a screwdriver the sunroof shattered into a trillion tiny shards of pointy arse-puncturing glass. After searching breaker's yards high and low for a replacement I ended up fitting a marine-plywood replacement, which eventually curved up at the edges adding a noticeable proportion of downforce.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:10, Reply)
Pink convertible beetle

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:07, Reply)
You are Lawrence Llelwyn-Bowen

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:06, Reply)
You mean Lawrence Llewelyn-Bowen?
Are you on some sort of mission today?
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:08, Reply)
Nah, I'm off on some boring training in 10 mins, so getting my fill of OT
and throwing SPAG to the wind!

EDIT: strikethrough as you will
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:10, Reply)
I had no idea you were an oilman

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:11, Reply)
He's not very 'slick' usually.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:14, Reply)
Be careful with your coffee this morning
You don't want to cause a spill
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:16, Reply)
i don't get it

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:16, Reply)
Boring training
I was implying you were being trained to bore... I'm not sure it works myself
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:17, Reply)
That's because you're ugly, stupid and you smell.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:17, Reply)
that's not fair I had a shower this morning

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:19, Reply)
'golden' ones don't count.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:27, Reply)
You're not alone
Oh wait, I do now - boring.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:19, Reply)
See above

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:19, Reply)
I MADE A JOKE THAT TWO PEOPLE DIDN'T GET
Clear me a space on the pantheon
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:20, Reply)
The Yellow Pages used to have a section that said
Boring: See Civil Engineers.

After discovering this I immediately texted my brother, training to become a Civil Engineer at the time, and he pinned that page to the noticeboard at his work. Score!
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:24, Reply)
the thing is
it is totally right. Civil Engineers on the whole are complete fucking dullards with a massively over-inflated opinion of themselves.

Fortunately I am a hydraulic engineer.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:28, Reply)
Engineer turf wars
Do you have gang signs too?
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:32, Reply)
no
I am actually technically a civil engineer. I'm not typical of them though. The majority are very grey and very unimaginative
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:42, Reply)
Your Simpsons tie helps you stand out from the crowd.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:55, Reply)
Check the Yellow Pages
it might still have that entry.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:33, Reply)
I'm finding it hard to choose which minority I should bash today.
Fatties or the mentally ill? I just can't decide.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:02, Reply)
How about people with fat brains?

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:03, Reply)
WE CAN'T HELP THE WAY WE ARE MADE
*runs off crying*
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:04, Reply)
Don't let your massive fat brain topple you over!

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:07, Reply)
Lucky he has a huge simian, mong-browed forehead
or he'd be in real trouble, eh?!
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:09, Reply)
Oo like Mammoff?

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:11, Reply)
don't forget my enormous feet

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:13, Reply)
How could I
when your stamping them last week has caused such problems for our Japanese cousins?
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:15, Reply)
Start with fat mental people. Two birds innit.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:04, Reply)
I like both your thinking here, thanks for your input.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:04, Reply)
There's only one fat mental bird now
the other one died.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:20, Reply)
Minority? Faakin' joke, innit, fouzands of 'em, faakin' skinnies who are mentally stable, they're minority these days.
Don't feel safe in my own town anymore.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:15, Reply)
Paxman
nuff sed
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:05, Reply)
Seconded. A real hero.
I also nominate Ian Hislop.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:06, Reply)
I second that

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:07, Reply)
motion carried
edit: good link you posted on /talk btw.

it raised a good point in that the disaster that has befallen Japan is fucking massive, and it's largely down to the quality of their work that they aren't completely fucked.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:14, Reply)
Yeah it was a good article
far more balanced and reasonable than the 'OMG HUGE EXPLOSIONS' headlines
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:19, Reply)
you are correct
carries more of a ring of truth to it. Probably because the Reg doesn't have a motive like selling papers.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:22, Reply)
I passed Ian Hislop on a flight of stairs at my old school once
Our debating society had arranged for him to be a guest speaker and tickets were like gold dust. As one of the organisers I had a front-row seat and was very excited. Obviously that day I developed the most painful eye infection of my life to date and had to go to hospital to have my eyeball scraped.

He's very short.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:10, Reply)
Note to Darth, close your eyes when your playing the cum sponge at a German gay club

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:11, Reply)
7/10
Not bad at all, especially given the early hour
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:16, Reply)
It made me feel a little sick

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:19, Reply)
Note to NakedApe, close your mouth when you're playing the cum sponge at a German gay club

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:21, Reply)
LEONA LEWIS

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:06, Reply)
HERO, not NEGRO, Noel.
Learn to read you fucking cunt.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:07, Reply)
This is what happens when you get your opinions from Metro.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:08, Reply)
Whoever invented jeans with lycra in them.
They should have a fucking statue built.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:09, Reply)
David fucking Bowie yo!!

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:18, Reply)
I'm loving Johann Hari a lot lately.
Not literally, what with him being a flaming homosexualist and all that, but, y'know, he's pretty cool all the same.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:18, Reply)
I don't know who that is
but welcome back. I'm encouraged by your stance on loving homosexualists.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:23, Reply)
This is possibly the best thing he's ever done:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtwYfcw441I

But he writes for the Independent and other things. He's only very young as well. *sighs*
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:26, Reply)
Time to turn him then
I'll have to watch that in full later - I like that amongst the associated videos is "Cheryl Cole farts on X Factor". These YouTube folk really know their target audience.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:28, Reply)
Yeah, I'm still not sure of the logic of that one.
How are you today, anyway?
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:34, Reply)
I am Vic Reeves and the Wonder Stuff
Yourself?
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:40, Reply)
I'm OK.
Trying to work my way through a backlog of bookmarks and write some things I've been meaning to and not let my mind wander at all.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:51, Reply)
Good call. Keep busy.
Am seriously considering pulling a sickie and fucking off home so text me if you need a damn good talking to again
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:54, Reply)
Why are you pulling a sickie?
Nah, I think I'll be OK. Just trying not to think too much. It can't be fun for you to have to tell me the same things over and over again and me still be a mardy twat. Thanks though :)
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:00, Reply)
Don't be daft, I'm glad if I can help at all
This being an area I know a little about. I refer you to my previous point about being dizzy, or rather "diz-ZEE, my head is SPIN-ing"
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:01, Reply)
Ah, I get it now.
Why is it spinning? Are you hungover? Have you eaten? You should probably eat something sugary*. If I were to talk about it, it would just be self-indulgent whining, I know the answers, I'm just sulking about them. Like I say, thank you :D


*I am not a doctor, this might be fucking awful advice.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:08, Reply)
And Ryan Gigss, the man is a freak.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:19, Reply)

freak Welsh Gorilla
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:20, Reply)
20 years playing at the highest level of club football
More appearances for his club than anyone else, a club that has boasted the talents of Bobby Charlton, David Beckham, Denis Law, Eric Cantona and George Best
Arguably the most gifted winger ever to come out of the British Isles

AND YOU STILL CAN'T SPELL HIS FIVE-LETTER SURNAME CORRECTLY
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:23, Reply)
Actually I speak Welsh and that's the correct spelling!

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:27, Reply)
ACTUALLY

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:29, Reply)

reak ootballer and thus a hero only to the mentally subnormal, the type of person that would have been quietly removed from society and gassed in 1930s Germany.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:23, Reply)
This is clearly nonsense on two fronts
- The Nazis didn't start gassing people until the 40s
- If they extinguished their brightest footballing lights during the war, how did they win the World Cup in 1954? Eh? EH?

I expect better, Monty
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:27, Reply)
No, I must correct you
they didn't start blogging about it until the '40s. There's a difference

Besides I thought they won in '66?
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:29, Reply)
They started removing menkles in the 30s.
I concede this was probably by lethal injection though - but that would have been less amsuing in my quip, so I made use of artistic license, much as you do when you describe yourself as 'heterosexual'.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:35, Reply)
7/10
Nicely incorporated
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:36, Reply)
I prefer my answer
but yours has the ring of truth
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:37, Reply)
I prefer yours too
Mainly cos it doesn't call me a bumder
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:38, Reply)
You missed my exhibition of sporting fact though

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:39, Reply)
No, I chose to ignore it for reasons of absurd nationalistic pride
act iction
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:41, Reply)
You're German?

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:45, Reply)
Plus
I state that football fans are subnormal, not players - you haven't read what I have written properly and are thus an idiot.

The difference is that I did not expect better of you.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:37, Reply)
Just 'cause you're crap at sport doesn't mean it's shit.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:29, Reply)
No, it's shit for a million and one other reasons.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:39, Reply)
There are two I can think of
Who have consistently gone above and beyond the call of duty, often making personal sacrifices and risking life and limb in order to do what had to be done. I can't choose between the two, so I'll nominate both John McClane and Jack Bauer.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:20, Reply)
McClane would kick Bower's arse

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:20, Reply)
Not if McClane had some information that Bauer needed

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:21, Reply)
McClane would happily give him that information
written on a hail of bullets.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:22, Reply)
Bauer's been shot more times than Jenna Jameson
He'd just say "Dammit!", get Chloe to send something to his PDA and then get creative on McClane with a lightbulb and some cornflakes.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:25, Reply)

John McClane Daphne
Jack Bauer Celeste
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:22, Reply)
I'm in a better mood, this morning.
The inventor of diet coke. Love him.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:22, Reply)
There are few heroes :(
Why don't presidents fight the wars, why do they always send the poor?
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:23, Reply)
OMS ftw
EDIT - I know this is wrong, YES I AM A SPASTIC.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:29, Reply)
One Minute Silence?
She's quoting SOAD.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:30, Reply)
It's a stupid lyric though
the answer is "because they can."
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:32, Reply)
that's why it gets posted a lot

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:34, Reply)
Of course it's a stupid lyric
It's by System of a fucking Down. The most overrated metal band of all time
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:37, Reply)
Megadeth.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:39, Reply)
I don't think anyone ever rated Megadeth above the level of "second-rate Metallica"
which is exactly what they were
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:41, Reply)
error
Megadeth have hordes of fans. They have done some good stuff, different to Metallica.

I prefer Metallica in general, but Megadeth had some great moments. They also produced a lot of shit.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:44, Reply)
I was a huge Megadeth fan in my teens
but as soon as I drifted away from classic metal (ie when Metallica disappeared and resurfaced with the execrable Load album) I stopped listening to them too. Your assesment in the bottom line of this post chimes exactly with how I feel about them.

They were my first ever gig, mind. Lost my glasses.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:53, Reply)

glasses brown wings to an acne-faced teenage boy with patches sewn all over his sleeveless denim jacket.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:56, Reply)
Go on then, have an 8/10
You're certainly trying hard enough
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:00, Reply)
you have some really stupid opinions
SOAD are at least a bit different. They write interesting songs, and they are superb live.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:41, Reply)
Noah and the Whale are "a bit different"
It doesn't make them good. SOAD seem to believe that an excess of infuriating zaniness can make up for a lack of decent tunes.

I will have to concede that the only time I've seen them live was back in '98 supporting Slayer and Sepultura, they were certainly not yet in their stride and the whole crowd badly wanted them to fuck off and make way for the headliners.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:43, Reply)
I like SOAD
more than I like Slayer
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:44, Reply)
I think Slayer are impressive although not my 'thing' at all.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:50, Reply)
Really?
I find them incredibly boring
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:51, Reply)
Conversely, they say you are 'a right barrel of laughs'.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:55, Reply)
just the barrel bit actually

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:56, Reply)
They are very dull live

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:56, Reply)
I thought they were excellent last year
and that was next to some first class performances from Bigelf and Karnivool. and Europe.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:57, Reply)
Slayer?!
Are you sure it was Slayer you saw?
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:59, Reply)
Absolutely
Yes, the music is good. But there is zero crowd interaction, and that gets dull very quickly.

Still sounds great hearing Tom Araya roaring "Raining blooooooood!" though
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:01, Reply)
The crowd were too busy trying to kill each other when I saw them

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:02, Reply)
some bands can get away without crowd interaction
and I believe Slayer to be one of them.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:03, Reply)
You can be 'different' and be 'different from good'.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:44, Reply)
My bro made me go and see Noah and the Whale a couple of years back
It wasn't bad. Then I heard the album. Fucking dreary shite. Would never have even considered going if I'd heard them before I saw them.

Let me put this to you: Why on earth do people go crazy for The Strokes? They are bland and uninventive and far from original.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:46, Reply)
Oh god, I have no argument with that at all
I heard all the hype about the Strokes before hearing the band and was vaguely intrigued. Fuck me, that was an anticlimax. Stunningly dreary crap.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:50, Reply)
The opposite of the 'vinegar strokes' then?

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:53, Reply)
I quite like The Strokes
But I'd never try to defend their music.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:52, Reply)
Very wise.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:53, Reply)
I disagree.
I saw them 'live' on the television and concluded they were fucking terrible in around 3 seconds. Some of the most embarrassing lyrics I have ever heard - and I've heard 'The Lebanon' by The Human League.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:44, Reply)
It may have helped that the support band were the worst band I have ever heard

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:45, Reply)
Who were they?
And worst band you'd ever heard or ever seen live? If the former, I'm going to have to play the Oasis card again.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:50, Reply)
Pendulum.
Must have been.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:54, Reply)
they win the award for "band that has most quickly put me off listening to them with their appalling live act"

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:56, Reply)
and a minor medal
for 'band that drives people to Fightstar's loving embrace'
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:58, Reply)
Fightstar are an odd band
They started with two pretty damn good tracks, then just completely went to shit. It was embarrassing.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:00, Reply)
that is impressive

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:00, Reply)
ten minutes of Pendulum
and I fucked off to Fightstar who were quite good
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:02, Reply)
Dillinger Escape Plan
they were so bad it hurt. I led the booing.

The best part of the gig was when the guitarist fell over, then dropped his guitar when he stood up.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:55, Reply)
Hahaha
Worst band I've ever seen live were the White Stripes. They were perfectly organised, just unbelievably dull.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:56, Reply)
see, I saw them in 2001 or 2002 and they remain one of the most intense and exciting gigs I have seen

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:57, Reply)
Maybe they just weren't up for it when I saw them
Which is fucking inexcusable as they were headlining Glastonbury
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:59, Reply)
that's a shame
they really were excellent
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:00, Reply)
Maybe all the cunts with juggling balls and waki hats
put him off.

Fair enough I say.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:02, Reply)
I like the cut of that fellow's jib.
He stands for proper music on decent vintage kit and turns his nose up at polished production. I throughly approve.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:01, Reply)
he is also an outrageously good guitarist
the point where he'd put his guitar down on the stage and was playing it like a man possessed in a lap steel way was amazing.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:03, Reply)
He is.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:09, Reply)
They are fucking dire
The singer has attempted to start an online argument with Jared Leto. It just reeks of jealousy.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:57, Reply)
damn you're right! I'm on fire this morning.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:35, Reply)
And no-one will piss on you.
Sad times.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:36, Reply)
It's alright it's a lovely day and I have no lectures.
Might get up in a minute.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:41, Reply)
Best warn the Japs first, eh?

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:42, Reply)
This is very cruel
I am ashamed to have laughed so hard when I read it
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:44, Reply)
did you laugh so hard pooh escaped from your loose bowels?
you know 'cause you love cock up it and what not ;)
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:48, Reply)
No, but Piglet and Eyore popped out.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:50, Reply)
What I do with my nephew's stuffed toys is my business and mine alone

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:51, Reply)
6/10
Quite good but you should never show your working, you're much funnier than Chompy
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:51, Reply)
As a teacher I would advise always show your working!
unless you're a massive helmet like Chompy then you should just top yourself.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:54, Reply)
I like this

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:55, Reply)
too soon! was at my folks' on Monday night
news comes on "death toll in Japan reaches 10000, nuclear disaster imminent" old man doesn't bat an eyelid,"Small child killed by bus" my old man pipes up "oh that's a shame". Unbelievable.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:47, Reply)
I think one of Monty's heroes said "The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million is just a statistic"
It was Brian Warner
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:54, Reply)
nice, but utter bollocks imo.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:55, Reply)
^this
there are always plenty of retarded little children around. Yes, it's a tragedy for the parents or whatever, but in the grand scheme of things, who gives a shit?
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:59, Reply)
POTD

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:04, Reply)
Everyone does it.
It's impossible to comprehend what the death of 10,000 people means, because all our empathy has to be divided by 10,000. If it's one person, we can concentrate it.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:58, Reply)
I take the opposite view
it has to be loads of people to make me give enough of a shit
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:59, Reply)
Yeah, not everyone's the same
Have you ever heard of the 'Monkeysphere' theory?
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:04, Reply)
I have not

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:04, Reply)
Quite interesting:
www.butireaditinthepaper.co.uk/2011/02/16/multiculturalism-and-the-monkeysphere/
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:05, Reply)
That's one of the most ridiculous things ever
I reckon. He's basically saying that we have limited amounts of empathy and imagination.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:08, Reply)
I don't think that's what he is saying
but that it is harder to empathise.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:11, Reply)
I don't think this is true
the man's backing up his ideas with Facebook research anyway
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:12, Reply)
yeah, clearly a lot of that is bollocks
some people have over 500 friends because they are fucking gimps.

I think though that you are making the mistake of judging the majority by your own standards. You may not have a hard time empathising with people outside your immediate circle (probably bigger than in the article, or at least there are several shells of it) but most people are stupid, belligerent and awful.

and I freely admit that I don't much care about most people.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:20, Reply)
Most people do.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:12, Reply)
Is this why I have an unstable social relationship with you lot?

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:10, Reply)
No, that's because you are bent.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:10, Reply)
Thought as much.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:11, Reply)
that is interesting
I believe I'd heard of the Dunbar number, but not the term monkeysphere. Thanks.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:10, Reply)
I read something just yesterday about the empathy for one v empathy for 10,000.
But for the fucking life of me, I can't remember where.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:13, Reply)
You might find this interesting, if you haven't seen it already.
Bad Science.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:18, Reply)
that is also interesting

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:24, Reply)
Turdd for the lose.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:31, Reply)
I wouldn’t necessarily say ‘hero’, as that just seems excessive to me. So here are some people I have varying amounts of respect for...
Footballers Jamie Carragher, for making Nani cry and Dirk Kuyt, for giving 1/3 of every wage packet to charity.

Author Stephenie Meyer, for attempting to reinvent a genre, and not doing too bad a job of it.

Vincent K McMahon, for revolutionising an entire sport, and proving that being a complete bastard can make you obscene amounts of money.

And my Dad, for raising us kids alone for 8 years, during which we went through several severe money issues, he managed to keep us fed and clothed.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:38, Reply)
Shut up about sport. It's shit.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:39, Reply)
^this
Apart from syncranized swimming. That stuff is amazing.

And women do that bringing up kids with no money stuff all the time.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:40, Reply)
People bringing up dinner in bus shelters is more impressive than
an adult saying 'look, I can jump really far'.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:47, Reply)
no it isn't.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:42, Reply)
Apart from maybe your dad
that is the shittest list ever.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:40, Reply)
it really really really is

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:41, Reply)
Stephenie Meyer reinventing a genre?
don't be ridiculous. You might as well say that JK Rowling did the same.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:41, Reply)
And with more justification
Stephanie Meyer is incredibly bad
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:43, Reply)
You could argue she's fueled the fantasies of thousands of tween girls
And is therefore grooming-by-proxy on a massive scale.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:45, Reply)
This as well
maybe we can charge her as accomplice in some domestic violence cases in the future
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:46, Reply)
At the very least we can do her for 'incitement to self harm and be all emo and shit'

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:48, Reply)
...and is therefore fucking GREAT.
I'm with AA here.

(Who is she?)
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:46, Reply)
Seriously?
She wrote the Twilight novels.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:47, Reply)
Oh. Sorry AA, I've changed my mind.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:48, Reply)
Not to worry, I knew I'd get a flaming for that
But I'm of the opinion that the books were nowhere near as bad as the films seem to be.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:49, Reply)
The film wasn't as bad as the book
it managed to subtract most of the creepy vibe.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:50, Reply)
But lost any humour whatsoever
In the books, Edward was actually quite funny, very silly sense of humour.

In the films he's just a miserable fuck.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:58, Reply)
Yeah but like I said
less creepy misogynism
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:59, Reply)
Ahh, true

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:01, Reply)
the whole thing seems very disturbing

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:02, Reply)
wrote Twilight

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:47, Reply)
I DID NOT.
YOU wrote Twilight - no returns.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:48, Reply)
I cannot second this more strongly
The first book is so riddled with mistakes and incongruity that the pathetic sobbing emo-ness of it almost passed me by

Almost
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:45, Reply)
Note the word 'attempting'

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:47, Reply)
Torn on the Carragher thing
On the one hand, he's a twat and a talentless clogger who's made a career out of committing fouls and getting away with 90% of them.

But making Nani cry is a genuinely admirable achievement.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:46, Reply)
You want to get that sewn up, then,
With your lifestyle, that tear could become infected very quickly.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:49, Reply)
7/10
Good work this morning Mr Boyce
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:54, Reply)
Don't be shy, give a big shout out to your heroes Green Day

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:54, Reply)
How's Austria this morning?

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:19, Reply)
Ronald Spiers

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 9:56, Reply)
This suprises even me, but Heston Blumenthal is my hero today
watching the fellow last night help the navy solve a dietry problem (submariners are too fat to get out of the hatches after 90 days at sea). He introduced a boil in the bag system so that the matelots don't have to eat chips every day. It also enables the silent service to stay at sea longer for extra buggary and rum.

There was much rejoicing at the admiralty.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:15, Reply)
I respect Blumenthal greatly
although I think he may be a ginger
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:23, Reply)
Hence the shaven head.
You may be onto something there.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:24, Reply)
he has the colouring of one I think
from the horse's mouth: "The truth is I have the biggest mop of red hair; it’s like strapping a doormat to my head. I could have a ginger afro – the truth is out!"
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:25, Reply)
I used to like him
until I saw his pompous and self-congratulatory 'feast' series where he feeds a load of b-list 'celebrities' some over-waki shit, all the while making himself out to be a boundary-pushing kerrazy guy.

He is boundary-pushing but has ruined my admiration for this by his being a fucking tosser. My brother-in-law's best mate works for him and claims that he really is a fucking genius though.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:28, Reply)
His OTT food just looks fucking stupid to me

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:30, Reply)
'I've made edible fake snow!!!!'
Yeah well done you fucking spastic.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:35, Reply)
I disliked the celebrity aspect of it
but I enjoyed the research and development parts of those.

What appeals to me is that, unlike other top chefs (Ramsey, Marco Pierre White etc.) he doesn't seem to be an obnoxious cunt.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:31, Reply)
Rick Stein is reputed to be one of the worst.
A foul-tempered alcoholic, I am told.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:35, Reply)
I strongly dislike Rick Stein
for playing a large part in spoiling Padstow. It's a shit place now.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:36, Reply)
He is widely disliked by the residents, I understand.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:37, Reply)
doesn't surprise me
what's worse is that his fish and chips aren't even the best within about 30 seconds walk, let alone in Padstow or Cornwall.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:40, Reply)
This gladdens me for some reason.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:44, Reply)
me too

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:44, Reply)
You'll never beat Keith Floyd.
He was ACE.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:37, Reply)
trudat

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:41, Reply)
^this
I read a really interesting article about him once. He said he used to be the sweary, shouty type, and then one day he actually hurt someone while they were cooking, and now even at the worst points he runs a calm kitchen. If someone doesn't pull their weight he makes them stand in the middle of the kitchen and watch as everyone else struggles to pull the extra weight, until they're absolutely desperate to get back to work and help.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:37, Reply)
Did you see
that fantastic new programme on Biblical history last night?

I am utterly in love with the presenter. She is fucking outstanding. I plan to make a shrine to her with collage pics etc when I get home tonight.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:40, Reply)
What's it called/ channel?
I like biblical history
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:44, Reply)
BBC2 9:00pm Tuesday

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:46, Reply)
BBC2 The Bible's Buried Secrets
She is Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou and I am in love. I clearly haven't learned to beware Greeks bearing tits.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:47, Reply)
That made me laugh
I'll keep an eye out for it
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:53, Reply)
So will I*


*of the Japanese variety
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:54, Reply)
quite pretty
also, I notice a lecturer at Exeter uni
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:54, Reply)
Can I come and stay for a bit?
I just need to finish customisig this jumper and then I will have something urgent to attend to in your area.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:55, Reply)
as long as you bring a big bag of marijuana

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:56, Reply)
I'll need to get you stoned
so you don't object to the strange noises coming from my room.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:58, Reply)
I'm fine with that

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:59, Reply)
just goes to show that you don't need to be a shithead to succeed as a chef

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:41, Reply)
Raymond Blanc also shows this to be true.

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:43, Reply)
There are a few of them about.
Raymond Blanc has the genial frenchman vibe going. The Roux family seem like decent sorts. The older ones at least.

I have a particular dislike for Marco Pierre White for some reason.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:46, Reply)
My brother managed the installation of Roux Jr's kitchen at home.
Despite being an even bigger racist than me, he declared Roux to be a sound fellow.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:48, Reply)
it's quite nice to hear that your impression of someone is accurate
particularly when it is a positive impression
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:55, Reply)
I've got a mate on HMS Turbulent
so I tuned in. Very interesting.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:53, Reply)
Is he a bit tubby?

(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:56, Reply)
He's not skinny
But I haven't seen him for a while as he's down on the South Coast when he's not out in the sub.

Did you know that none of our subs were working a year or so ago? They were all either drydocked or run aground somewhere. Strangely, I don't remember us being invaded at all.
(, Wed 16 Mar 2011, 10:59, Reply)

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