My tema came second in a pub quiz last night
Thanks in no small part to my team-mates, in my absence because it takes fucking forever to get served at the bar I was in, attributing the credit for writing Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas to Reginald D. Hunter. Not joking.

What unbelievably ridiculous numptyism have you been subjected to lately?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:04, 169 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

My mother and sister.
Daily.
( girlinthehole, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:07, Reply)

Her mother and sister
daily
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:08, Reply)

Possible Potential Threesome on the cards?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:23, Reply)

Not me, you, your mum and your sister.
I'll just watch or something.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:24, Reply)

you can't spell team
also, your mrs, for going out with you.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:08, Reply)

Fucking hell that's embarrassing
The team thing, that is. Enough of the jealousy already Al
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:10, Reply)

Are you making up for Monty's apparent lack of being here so far?
Also, your mrs.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:13, Reply)

Excuse me?
You write a sentence like "Are you making up for Monty's apparent lack of being here so far?" and you try and criticise me over a capital letter?
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:15, Reply)

Actually, no
I was saying that your mrs was a ridiculous numpty.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:24, Reply)

But, but, why would you say something like that?
Why? You knew it would hurt my feelings, so why would you set out to deliberately upset me?
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:25, Reply)

Because I secretly harbor a desire
To be more like you, al.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:27, Reply)

I read it as Tenna
and thought he was claiming victory over incontinance.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:16, Reply)

haha

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:20, Reply)

Did you know your profile was mentioned on /talk a while back.
They commented (quite correctly I thought) that the further down you go in your profile the gayer it gets.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:12, Reply)

It starts at Tom Cruise
and goes through Steven Gately to Micheal Barrymore
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:14, Reply)

ends with bruno
www.b3tards.com/u/313f276056b3485b1c22/n692760023_4602829_1099.jpg
(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:15, Reply)

(no offence)

(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:16, Reply)

This is so true

(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:16, Reply)

ha ha ha
(no offence)
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:16, Reply)

This peacock has seen many a cock pee.
www.b3tards.com/u/313f276056b3485b1c22/9527_273903225023_692760023_9055688_2311910_n.jpg
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:26, Reply)

This is about the most funny thing I have ever said, and it's not recieved an ounce of attention =(

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:30, Reply)

Here is a carefully measured ounce of attention
no more no less
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:33, Reply)

I thought the first one
was more John Barrowman
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:25, Reply)

You mention /talk as if they are one sentient being made up of many many individuals

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:17, Reply)

Not that many,
I would think about 50 regular posters.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:18, Reply)

t
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:19, Reply)

I heard
that it is the fevered ramblings of one person with a severe multiple personality disorder.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:20, Reply)

I am both flattered and terrified

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:24, Reply)

Haha
Don't worry Darth, being taken apart by /Talk is a right of passage. You should be proud.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:26, Reply)

Did you see when poppet went on there?

(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:27, Reply)

link please

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:29, Reply)

first this
www.b3ta.com/talk/6216773
I'm trying to find baldmonkeys post afterwards...
(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:30, Reply)

The lady in the back ground there almost doesn't have any facial features what so ever, I've never seen that before.
i43.tinypic.com/2ikuv54.jpg
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:32, Reply)

doesn't seem that bad a roasting

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:36, Reply)

The next thread was better but I've given up finding that.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:38, Reply)

fair enough

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:38, Reply)

I was expecting full on talk rape
I'm a bit disappointed
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:58, Reply)

She looks a bit like me at that age.
Poor thing : (
( girlinthehole, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:43, Reply)

No
But I want to.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:29, Reply)

No, I'm still laugthing after my disection
What happened to Poppet?
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:29, Reply)

I seriously doubt if there;s anyone on /Talk
who's as ruthlessly jealous and unmitigatingly bitter as Al
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:29, Reply)

you have no idea

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:30, Reply)

I absolutely cannot be bothered
If I wanted someone to take the piss out of my face, haircut or general unatteactiveness I'd call any one of a number of people who can adminster said insults in real life, in the knowledge that they will probably buy me a drink shortly thereafter
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:32, Reply)

that's right
on the internet it's all about being insulted for one's personality
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:34, Reply)

Or lack of it.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:39, Reply)

I'm pretty confident that most of the insults being hurled my way
are about my hair
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:39, Reply)

but there's so much more to choose from...

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:47, Reply)

I aim to please

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:52, Reply)

I was called a nazi lesbian on /talk so it's all uphill after that.

( girlinthehole, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:50, Reply)

what excellent judges of character

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:54, Reply)

I know.
It's like they've met me or something.
( girlinthehole, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:55, Reply)

Not so
I can account for the fact that Blousie isn't a lesbian. She said I was hot.

Oh, hang on...
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:09, Reply)

Have a pop at JMG

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:30, Reply)

You're on their radar now and will be bummed mercilessly

You are Gary Lucy
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:26, Reply)

ha!

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:59, Reply)

people in the cinema last night watching Alice In Wonderland
despite the playing card soldiers being pretty much card shaped and covered with playing card markings I overheard someone saying why weren't the soldiers like playing cards like in the book.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:20, Reply)

they did look
a bit more like cockroaches. And I was a bit bewildered as to why the White Queen's men were actual chess pieces
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:24, Reply)

because it was an amalgam of in wonderland and through the looking glass
in looking glass it was all about the chess pieces
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:26, Reply)

But
in through the looking glass, the White Knight was human. He did not have a knight chess piece as a head. I realise that sounds a bit pedantic, and it was all part of the reimagining. It just felt like Tim Burton was stealing the bits that he liked and ignoring the rest
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:28, Reply)

how do you know they weren't wearing helmets?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:29, Reply)

I don't know of course
but I'm pretty sure I saw their faces move. Could well be wrong though :/
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:30, Reply)

may well have done
I thought it was a nice touch

bit weird how Anne Hathaway had her hands in the air the whole time.

and Johnny Depp's occasional throaty scottish voice.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:31, Reply)

I liked it
but the dance at the end almost ruined the entire film for me.

My main problem was that it could have been so much better than 'alright' because the source material is so fantastic
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:33, Reply)

I was a little troubled by the dance, but at least it didn't turn into a massive whole cast dance scene.

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:35, Reply)

That would have been
AWESOME
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:36, Reply)

Johnny Depp does a Scottish voice in it??

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:35, Reply)

only when he is being a bit 'wacky'

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:36, Reply)

occasionally
it's as if he slips into an evil scottish character now and then.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:37, Reply)

ACE!

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:41, Reply)

Yeah
for some reason his accent cuts between his roles in Pirates of the Caribbean and Finding Neverland
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:37, Reply)

He had a horse shaped helmet in the illustrations
I don't know if this was mentioned in the actual text though
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:29, Reply)

Because in alice through the looking glass
they have chess pieces, since the book is based upon a pawns journey from one side of the board to the other.

EDIT - mindpiss
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:26, Reply)

indeed
was pleased to see you are a great fan of the books.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:27, Reply)

I much preffered Through the Looking Glass
But they are both excellant stories with the original illustrations.

I live by the lines:
"He only does it to annoy
Because he knows it teases"
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:43, Reply)

they are indeed
I have a lovely copy with colour plates and stuff

as far as poetry goes, Jabberwocky is the only one I'd say I actually really like
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:45, Reply)

Taken from Monty Python
The walrus and the carpenter,
Were walking hand in hand.
"If only," said the Carpenter,
"The law would understand."
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:58, Reply)

that's excellent

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:59, Reply)

It's in really tiny writing in the Brand new Monty Python Bok.
Next to a picture of tweedles dum and dee.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:02, Reply)

r'tards

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:25, Reply)

I'm unhappy that this film is more a remake of the Disney travesty.
Combining the books unacceptable.

I still want to see it though.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:28, Reply)

it combines elements of the books
it's a new story though.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:29, Reply)

Yeah
it's best to think of it as Tim Burton's half-baked Alice in Wonderland, rather than Lewis Carroll's
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:31, Reply)

I'm off to see Clash of the Titans IN 3 FUCKING D this weekend. Woo!

( girlinthehole, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:45, Reply)

I'd rather not see it in 3D I reckon

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:46, Reply)

The first film I saw in 3D was Alice in Wonderland.
The novelty hasn't worn off yet.
( girlinthehole, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:47, Reply)

I found the 3D in Alice to be an unnecessary extravagance
I saw Avatar in 3D though. It'll be years before another film matches it for ambition
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:49, Reply)

The ambition to have a fucking shit story?

(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:51, Reply)

I just like sitting there with my silly glasses over my real glasses.

( girlinthehole, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:52, Reply)

the best part of the experience is turning to whoever you are with and laughing at how ridiculous they look

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:58, Reply)

I've just seen that and Avatar
I don't find that it adds anything to my experience.

If it looked like you were just looking across a room it'd be better, but it mainly looks like a bunch of flat layers one behind the other
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:53, Reply)

It felt a bit like that game
American McGee's Alice in Wonderland. But not dark enough
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:32, Reply)

I love that game

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:35, Reply)

I'm shit at computer games
so don't play them, but I finished that one mostly even so
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:37, Reply)

Just to bring the discussion back to something which annoyed me
My example of numptyism is that Delroy Smellie (he has a funny name) had a mere 7 seconds to work out if a carton of orange juice was a deadly weapon before he assaulted a member of the public.

So, after 7 seconds he still made the wrong decision and was therefore found not guilty by virtue of being a retard.

I hope he's in a pub and walks up behind someone "in their blind spot" and they turn around only to see a large man holding what appears to be a glass weapon and they smash a bottle into his face in self defence.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:32, Reply)

I don't know anything about this, but wish to have an informed opinion to get angry about, so I can join your rage.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:34, Reply)

Don't bother getting informed
You can get much more enraged if you don't know the actual facts.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:35, Reply)

Fucking hippies

who gives a shit, she didn't even have the balls to testify
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:37, Reply)

She didn't want her lifestyle to be brought into question in court.
I'm not sure what she meant by that.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:44, Reply)

that she takes lots of drugs

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:44, Reply)

This is true
she would almost certainly have been a very poor witness.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:53, Reply)

She is obviously a miscreant
with something to hide, she needs a haircut and a spell in the army
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:53, Reply)

The little minx

( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:53, Reply)

I though that 7 seconds is a hell of a long time to make a decision
Not really fight of flight, more fight or have a cup of tea and think about it for a while.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:38, Reply)

That's what really grates
If it had been the middle of an actual riot, or the police had been charging in a battering everyone, then he's clearly not going to take stock or the situation. But to need 7 seconds and then to make the wrong decision really means you have no business being a policeman, even if he is only in the TSG, since he's clearly a fucking spastic cunt.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:42, Reply)

it's unbelievable
if it takes him that to look and understand what is in front of his face he should be a politican rather than a policeman
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:44, Reply)

Too much "Constable Savage" for my liking

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:44, Reply)

What bothered me was the back-hand slap across her face
even though it did less damage. I refuse to belive that bitch-slapping is part of Police training or in any manual.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:46, Reply)

I was confused/amused
By the bit that said backhanding her was better than hitting her in the face with his elbow, and then something about how if he had hit her arm, he would have broken it. I presume this was back to talking about the baton rather than his elbow.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:51, Reply)

He said backhanding her was better than elbowing her in the face
which is true, but surely just a shove backwards while he assessed the situation would have been even better?
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:52, Reply)

The worst thing is, this is NOTHING compared to some police-inflicted injuries I've seen
It's just that the people on the receiving end are usually criminals who either don't want any more 'fuss' or feel it's pointless to complain as they wouldn't be believed.

Just because somebody has broken the law by being a public nuisance or a shoplifter or whatever, it doesn't justify what is, in effect, corporal punishment.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:56, Reply)

But Roota, you're missing the point, she could have had a weapon.
A WEAPON! Do you see? It could have been a WEAPON. And then where would we be? eh? WHERE WOULD WE BE THEN ROOTA?
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:58, Reply)

I'm SHIT-SCARED of Tropicana
Especially the one 'with bits'.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:59, Reply)

to be fair
a lot of riot / crowd control policing nowadays can directly be linked to this fucking awful occurence

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Keith_Blakelock
(Halfy By light alone, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:59, Reply)

facking 'ell
I was unaware of that
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:02, Reply)

yep
he tends to get forgotten about when people complain about modern day policing tactics regarding riots and crowd control
(Halfy By light alone, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:05, Reply)

Yeah, if he hadn't bitchslapped that woman he might have ended up macheted to death
By a load of stinking hippies with fuck all else better to do
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:07, Reply)

hehe
no because it was a "never again" scenario, from there and the other riots in London and the miners strikes, they basically over police and try and clamp down on any potential flare ups nowadays.

Still, compared to a whole lot of police forces around the world a swift smack in the leg with a baton is a pittance
(Halfy By light alone, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:12, Reply)

Well that makes it alright then
The police were out of order during the miners strike as well.
Police brutality was rife in the 80s. SO just as the police have 'long memories', maybe PC Blakelock was an innocent victim of people with long memories.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:15, Reply)

Oh that's alright then
as long the abuses of our rights to protest are the least of all the abuses in the world, then it's perfectly acceptable.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:17, Reply)

oh ffs
pretty much yes, bearing in mind hundreds or thousands of innocent people fill up NHS A&E wards every weekend because fucking dumb twats think its funny to glass / stab / punch / kick the shit out of people for no better reason than "looking at them funny" having a woman screaming abuse and using threatening behaviour in an already tense and potential powderkeg environmant was dealt with, not brutally or over violently, reasonable force was used. this woman and a diddums bruise screams daily mail look what labour have done, this middle class white woman is being oppressed by the evil scum nazi racist met police.

there will always be protestors that use "peaceful law abiding protest" as an excuse to fuck shit up and there will be the very very occasional police officer that uses excessive force but the monstrous over-reaction to it is ridiculous.

the next time a protest kicks off into a full blown riot because the police are terrified of being able to use force to control the situation everyone will scream and shout and say "why was this allowed to happen, the police are a shambles" so they are in a no win position from a large minority of the media no matter how they react or operate to any given crowd control operation so just give it a rest.

for every person who says "I have a right to peaceful protest" someone else will turn around and complain that that protest is a "breach of the peace"
(Halfy By light alone, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:38, Reply)

No, I won't "give it a rest"
Your logic is like telling people people living in shit bits of the UK to stop moaning as they've got it worse in rural Bangladesh. It has no relevance at all.

The police were roundly criticised for their actions in policing the protests at the G20, and yet despite basically admitting they got it wrong and they will change, nobody has actually been rebuked for anything they have done.

I'm coming back to the Ian Tomlinson fact again, but it is very important. A man, who had nothing to do with the protests, is dead because of a policeman going gung ho and lashing out for no reason, and rather than try and restore confidence in a system by showing that, when mistakes are made, the police will admit it and deal with the problem in a reasonable manner, they have done nothing at all and the CPS appears powerless to act.

And that is what is disgraceful about this situation.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:48, Reply)

You're right Al
It is wrong that the police are not held to account for individual actions. They are no longer public servants when they bash your head in, and their colleages should see to it that the reputation of the whole is maintained, not the reputation of the one.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:55, Reply)

I remember that well.
Those were very troubled times, and we are well out of them now.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:05, Reply)

hell yes
But the police tend to have long memories, and take death in service very very seriously sometimes they go too far the other way, but in the same way an ordinary protester shouldn't have to die in a protest due to over-reaction, neither should a police office be basically slaughtered on the spot for simply trying to keep the peace
(Halfy By light alone, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:09, Reply)

I think everyone takes death pretty seriously
the death of a protester, such as Blair Peach, is going pretty far too, not to mention the death of someone who wasn't even a protester, that being Ian Tomlinson.

I think you're wrong if you're suggesting that the riot police these days use that case as the reason why they act the way they do, they act the way they do because they can get away with it as they know they will never be disciplined no matter what they do, and their commanders are equally complicit.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:14, Reply)

All correct,
the problems occur when the systems break down.

Your average plod doing his duty, unthreatend, will not overreact, and the average Joe on the street is happy with a bobby walking the beat.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:15, Reply)

That's horrific

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:09, Reply)

I read a police manual
from a friend who joined the force, and i'm sure in there was a thing relating to this, and they advise a slap or pinning and to never ever shove someone unless in a full on baton charge, because it is more provoking and will garner an immediate response of aggression, whereas a slap / hold is used more to shock or temporarily stun someone due to the surprise element of it.

Obviously in a huge crowd situation pinning is unlikely unless the person can be removed and isolated, which could inflame the crowd more than a short sharp shock.

You should sign up to be the crowd in the riot training they do for the Met and regional forces
(Halfy By light alone, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:58, Reply)

You have to remeber she wasn't the only threat
There were hundreds of "protesters" all surging and writhing in around the cops, many trying to provoke a reaction from the police for the cameras, she just happened to be the most irritating.

The slap seemed unecessary, but she repeatadly refused to comply with request to back off so she got a smack on the legs and bruise, boo fucking hoo, sometimes you need to suffer for your "cause".
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 12:59, Reply)

She was standing in a public place
why should she have "backed off"
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:03, Reply)

Because she was part of an aggressive crowd baiting the police
who most of the time do an excellent job and don't deserve the abuse that they get.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:07, Reply)

Most don't deserve it
But then there are pricks like Smellie who seem to think that joining te force gives them the right to assault people.
There's one here who likes to head-butt buskers.
Or the ones who BIT somebody on the back in the police van because he was being a drunken arsehole in a restaurant.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:10, Reply)

s in a restaurant behind the bar at The Cambridge
( djtrialprice, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:18, Reply)

Afternoon, villiain
;)
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:19, Reply)

The TSG are the single most complained about section of the police
they are known colloquially by other sections as the Thick and Stupid Group. They get away with absolutely anything in the name of "public order". I don't understand how anyone can watch the footage of the protests in London and not think that the police over-reacted.

Don't forget that the reason they were there is because an officer was filmed assaulting a member of the public in a way which directly lead to his death, known commonly as "Manslaughter", and yet no-one has been brought to book for it.

The problem with this whole situation is that the police are a law unto themselves and can operate in any way they choose with almost complete impunity, and this case is just another example of that.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:12, Reply)

Though I do believe that the police do go over the top,
The protesters have to understand that fucking the police off is a very risky venture.

Would you prod a tiger with a stick then complain when it bit your arm off?
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:12, Reply)

So you're comparing the police to a wild animal?
That's hardly reasonable is it? The police are meant to be well trained and disciplined aren't they?
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:16, Reply)

Well they're not
So we'll all just have to treat them accordingly, and DON'T FUCKING PISS THEM OFF!!
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:17, Reply)

apropos of nothing
you trying to go for the full day? If so, best of luck.
( djtrialprice, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:19, Reply)

I really was!
But there's one in 'compose' right now :(
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:20, Reply)

A full day of being pissed or being naked?

(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:20, Reply)

Pissed
Why disturb the daily routine eh?
( djtrialprice, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:21, Reply)

*deletes*
My phone is still borked
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:23, Reply)

I haven't even started on the booze yet!
I have chores.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:22, Reply)

c w
( djtrialprice, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:25, Reply)

have am a
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:25, Reply)

You can fuck off an all

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:26, Reply)

you love it

(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:30, Reply)

Possibly
But I shall express appropriate guilt, as it is still technically Lent
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:33, Reply)

Your boyfriend had better get hold of some Southern Comfort
Applebite has got her ticket for Download.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:36, Reply)

I'm keeping his plums in a jar when he goes
If he returns without the lil' lady's chest apples burnt onto his retinas, he can have them back.
If not, I have new earrings.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:39, Reply)

Do I get a say in this?
What if I don't want my plums in a jar? What if I'm pinned down by burly, moustached men (al's "friends") and forced to look?
( djtrialprice, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:48, Reply)

That wouldn't be his fault at all
If we made him look then you can't be mean to him.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:48, Reply)

If he enjoys it
I keep his knackers
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:51, Reply)

What if I poke him in the ear with my finger
he won't like that and overall he won't have had a good time.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:55, Reply)

Unless it's like that scene in A Clockwork Orange
No dice.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:57, Reply)

"I'm singing in the rain
just singing in the rain"

It'll be totally like that scene.
( djtrialprice, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:59, Reply)

Go ahead...
See where it leads you.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 14:03, Reply)

Will it be into a threesome with you and some 20 year old breasts?

(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 14:04, Reply)

No it bleedin won't
I liked you when you were Good Al.
Remember, that brief spell a few weeks ago?
It was like Quantum Leap.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 14:07, Reply)

Awwwwwww, I'm sorry Roots
I was only kidding, we're not really gonna look at boobies, even if we wanted to we'd have to give away Southern Comfort, and that's just not going to happen is it, have you ever heard of a scot giving away booze?
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 14:08, Reply)

Haha, I know
That was my safety net all along.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 14:10, Reply)

Sorted
Plus, I hate looking at the breasts of 20 year olds. Eugh.
( djtrialprice, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:57, Reply)

Yes, so save yourself the petrol money
Bent shot
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:26, Reply)

I am comparing them as such
I don't wish to, but their actions, some mentioned above, show that a degree of unpredictableness is present. Hence the wild animal link.

As for being well trained, they are. Discipline is another matter. A well disciplied force will behave as ordered, and it is a measure of a unit's discipline as to how much force can be applied to it before elements break down. I would say that the discipline of the police is less than, for example, a line of troops ordered to stand firm, though being slaugthered by enemy gunfire, and standing firm.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:27, Reply)

In that case, an appropriate analogy is thus:
I leave my car unlocked while in the Toxteth area of Liverpool, unsurprisingly Roota breaks in, steals my radio, hotwires the car and crashes it into a wall, then burns it.

I should have expected it and locked my car, therefore I am a silly sausage, but that doesn't make what Roota did any less of a crime and I am still a victim of a crime.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:30, Reply)

I also did Mrs Al on the backseat with her own dildo
She enjoyed it and I returned said dildo, so this was NOT a crime but a compassionate act.
Cancels out the little bit of theft, no?
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:32, Reply)

Got it in one
Except she would have stolen the wheels too.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:34, Reply)

team mate at football last night.
With the score at 9-8, we had a penalty to level the score against one of the better teams in our league. He blasted it straight down the middle, not a bad technique as Cesc Fabregas will atest, but when the goal keeper wasn't ready he managed to block the shot without even knowing about it.
In five-a-side football you should not miss a penalty, this guy has missed both penalties we've ever been awarded.
I must also mention that I gave away a penalty in the first half in a particularly stupid way. Our team's a bit crap which is why we're second from bottom.


Apologies for mentioning football.
( Holly Would long wheel based tranny, Thu 1 Apr 2010, 13:45, Reply)