YOU ARE ALL RACIST.
Just to keep some perspective here - NO ONE has come on and related any tales of how their grandad and his mates once ran down a nigger in a pickup truck and then lynched him from a fucking banyan tree for the crime of smiling at some white cunt. It's all been about some doddery old fruits making retarded comments.

You can claim that it was understandable for the grannies to be racist because they didn't know any better. They were told that their race was the most superior and that other races were morally decadent, and a threat, and had that attitude reinforced by fear and ignorance for their entire lives.

So what is your excuse?? If you are so damned enlightened now and claim to know better, why are you still supporting the regime that keeps struggling third world economies in economic bondage?

The cocoa in your chocolate IS produced by slave children. The coltan in your mobile phone IS mined by slave children. The palm oil in so many of your products IS grown by removing tribal peoples from their lands at gun point.
Make changes to your habits now, or die a racist that your grandkids will mock and despise.

*edit* Right. That's that lot told.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 4:47, 171 replies)

*camp* Oooooooo!
Someone's on their high horse. I don't think you'd like Sickipedia
(wehttamman via B3ta for microwave, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 4:56, closed)

'Like' is a subjective term.
I've stolen many jokes and gotten inspiration for many 'shops from there.
I don't think it comes down to like/dislike.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 5:00, closed)

But do you not get outraged at all the racist jokes?

(wehttamman via B3ta for microwave, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 5:12, closed)

No. Jokes make me laugh. It must be something about the nature of them.
I'd get outraged if no one was making a mockery of racism. If we treat it like a Sombre Horrible Thing then we are still giving it power over us. If we take the piss, mock and sneer -then WE have the power over it.
There's a flaw or two there.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 5:29, closed)

I try to shop more ethically
but I don't even know what coltan is, how can I make sure it's Fairtrade or whatever? The people require information before making informed decisions - not saying it's your job, but you can't blame Everyman Joe for supporting a slave trade he's not even aware exists.
( Bats, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 7:04, closed)

Start here.
www.google.com.au/search?q=coltan+mining&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

You all have access to the same internet I do, the information is there to be found. It's not hard.

Ooh, for shits and giggles, do a google search on 'modern slave trade' and have a real fucking belly laugh at what racism really means, so as to stop bitching like little girls with hurty feelings over some powerless words.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 7:08, closed)

Interesting...
You do know how to do a basic google search, you seem to have been unable in previous posts.

Well done.
(The Kwyjibo A big, dumb, balding North American ape., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 14:20, closed)

One picks one's battles.
One doesn't waste breath on some pedantry.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 14:41, closed)

You pick your battles...
until you have no argument, and move on to something else.
(The Kwyjibo A big, dumb, balding North American ape., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 16:15, closed)

Sure, why not?
I *could* bitterly stay the course, grimly and unswervingly holding the line and staying true to myself.

But my 'Oh dear, for fuck's sake!' gland would get infected.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 23:54, closed)

I imagine my grand kids will mock and despise me whatever happens.
But that will be kids for you. Ungrateful bastards should all be out in the fields...

I take it your internet enabled device of choice for ranting is ethically sourced?
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 8:20, closed)

It's motherfucking UPCYCLED, baby.
and some bits are held on with super glue and gaffer tape.

Kids are ungrateful little shits, why when I was a wee girl, my dad smacked some respect right into my face.
And I did not grow up bitter with an anti-authority streak or anything...
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 8:38, closed)

I refuse to eat chocolate that isn't made by slaves

(TheManWithThePlan cussed your mum on, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 8:24, closed)

The bitter tears of slave children do add a certain
Je ne sais quoi

but its probably just your soul calcifying.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 8:40, closed)

I think you're misunderstanding what the term "racist" means.
Buying "unethical" products isn't racism. I'm sure hardly anyone is aware if it's little black or white children doing the mining.

I find it hard to take someone seriously when they are complaining about the origin of the innards of a mobile phone, when they probably use one themselves, and the very computer they are writing on has no doubt many dubiously sourced metals inside it.

I should think it's very hard to even survive in a modern world without unwittingly committing an ethical offense!
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 8:41, closed)

I didn't want a computer.
But I stood outside and yelled and you couldn't hear me.

And that would be a dead-set fucking tragedy, wouldn't it?
(yes)
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:11, closed)

Your voice was drowned out
By all the nutters camping outside St Pauls. I'll send them your regards when I pass them tonight...
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 10:40, closed)

how are they nutters?
does giving a fuck make one insane?
oh, why am I asking you, you're obviously not smart enough to find me an answer.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 10:50, closed)

So it decends to personal insults!
You really do know how to make a valid argument, don't you!

For what it’s worth, their campaign would have been taken much better if they’d had a coherent message. As it is, most are a bunch of crusties with banners complaining about anything involving money, be it related to capitalism or not, without seeing the irony and certainly without understanding how economies work. Where do they think the money’s coming from to cover the story, police the site and arrange for their eviction?

Unfortunately having little understanding of a subject certainly doesn’t stop people from having a very vocal opinion about it. As you proved in your initial post.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 12:27, closed)

your failure to independantly research even the basic fundamentals of what the #Occupy movement
is so desperately trying to tell everyone makes the veins in my eyeballs bulge with contempt.
You just pretty much spewed word-for-word an 'unbiased' faux news 'coverage'.
Cheers for that. I like to mix talkback radio stylee offensiveness in sometimes.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 13:47, closed)

Occupy has no coherent message
It has access to the same media outlets as any other protest group. It remained tight lipped for as long as it could because the more lucid members knew full well that it couldn't put out a simple mission statement. It is the People's Front of Judea writ large for the 21st century. When the London group did finally put out a list of requests/demands, it was straight out the big book of centralised economies and given that I'm supposed to be part of the "99% (I'm certainly not in the 1%) it had me running for the hills rather than manning the barricades.

Pretending that there is any great pattern to protests across the planet is also pretty shaky. The "indignants" in Spain want their employment law loosened to give them a slight chance of getting a permenant job before death. This is totally at odds with the resistance to proposed employment laws here.

Like pretty much every protest movement in the last fifteen years, it is a self congratulatory circle jerk that allows those protesting to feel better about themselves whilst never once putting them at risk of having to show the courage of their convictions.
(Leonard Hatred briefly did some work on, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 14:28, closed)

You think now that camping out in New york City in a blizzard - in a tent - is not showing the courage of one's convictions?
Shall they set themselves on fucking fire to convince you?
They are not going anywhere. They will be here next year and they will be bigger.
When your mind wakes up from your 20th century need for a lineal 'storyline' and you will see that the complex dialogue surrounding #Occupy does not fit into neat 5 minute news bite,
I'd strongly suggest you DO SOME RESEARCH here. Knowledge is power.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 14:49, closed)

I seem to recall that people sat outside Greenham common for decades...
...and sure enough nuclear disarmament was achieved. Oh wait.

When the poll tax riots actually succeeded in changing something, you'll note that the mission statement was "return to the old system." The two million residents of Manilla who protested against Marcos rigging their election didn't tack a list of sub demands on the side (they did at least wait for Aquino to assume power first). You can ignore the lessons of history all you like. You can pretend they don't apply. There has been no significant alteration in the way that a message is delivered with any success. That delivery is currently totally beyond the occupy movement. You won't change the 5 minute (more realistically, 90 second) newsbite. You either work with it or fail.

Consider this. The tea party are a bunch of dislikable hardliners. They did however go from nascent protest to political power brokers in about the same time the occupy movement has sat in snowy contemplation. The message is simple, the reinforcement effective and the results clear (if not ideal). Occupy would benefit from learning how they did it.
(Leonard Hatred briefly did some work on, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 15:12, closed)

I'd say that the Tea Party has something of an advantage,
in that it represents the feelings of a significant percentage of members of an existing political party, and they have the support of significant sections of their country's media.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 19:11, closed)

There is also the helpful fact that the tea party were bankrolled by the Koch brothers.
The media support is a given when you own a massive stake in in it.

english.aljazeera.net/programmes/peopleandpower/2011/10/2011102683719370179.html
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 23:58, closed)

"Koch"
It's funny, 'cause it sounds like "cock", which is slang for "penis". The Tea Party are a front for some penis.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 8:46, closed)

It's pronounced "coke"

( argyleblanket The man on the roof works for me, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:59, closed)

I think you'll find that it is pronounced pee-niz.

( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 13:19, closed)

More excuses, no solutions
That bloke Obama, the one currently President of the United States. His 2008 campaign was financed to a huge extent by grassroots donations. If we accept that the movement is too packed with fiscal illiterates to attract large single donors and supporters, why not try that route?

Could it be that- once again- with no easy to explain aims and objectives, no solutions and (when it boils down to it) no actual consensus even within the protestors themselves, there is nothing to campaign with?
(Leonard Hatred briefly did some work on, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 13:26, closed)

the campaign is still growing
and forming as more people see the value.
There is no hurry to rush into anything.
But the sheer amount of information coming from these people is fucking phenomenal.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 14:02, closed)

Seriously, i'll put the kettle on...
I've probably got something Fairtrade somewhere if you want, isn't chamomile soothing or restful?
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 14:25, closed)

So where is this "information?"
The Beeb has a story about how the Church supports a transaction tax (we'll leave the irony in that for now) with a vague link to the protests but otherwise nothing. Nothing on the front page of the Guardian. The New Statesman, which has been fairly uncritical so far- even sending Rik from the Young Ones impersonator Laurie Penny to "cover" the movement, is asking if the occupy movement actually has a fucking point.

I'm sure the blogosphere is alight. The converted have never been so well preached to. Everyone else, not so much.
(Leonard Hatred briefly did some work on, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 14:38, closed)

Excellent description of Laurie Penny which I will now steal.
She gets right on my ruddy tits.
( Pig Bodine., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:39, closed)

Challenge:
Give one clear argument that the protestors are putting forward, and with their solution. Just one. One that can stand to a bit of critisism. One that's not half-baked and wouldn't be circumvented by the city within half an hour.

You can't campaign against something and not expect someone to ask this question.

Step up to the mark or piss off. Your choice...
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 18:16, closed)

wtf? I'm not doing your research for you.
You're gonna have to read a webpage on your own, like a big boy, at some point.

I don't like the choices you gave me, far too narrow and restricted, but as they came out of your mind, I'm not terribly surprised at their limited scope.

I choose daiquiri, instead. I think we can all be happy with that.

*edit*
If I give you your clear argument, will you go away and suck down the business end of a shotgun for me?

-Do NOT put your money in a big bank. Instead bank locally using a building society, credit union or community bank. Encourage all your relatives and friends to do the same. Get them to encourage all THEIR friends and relatives to do the same.

It really isn't terribly difficult to stand up and demand change.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 0:04, closed)

Oh, that'll work.
I wonder where all the banks and building societies came from originally... Oh yes, from the very same principle.

Are you suggesting we legislate small local banks so that they can never combine for the sake of efficiency, thus giving poorer returns than the bigger banks? It's like buying Fairtrade chocolate. You'll never compete financially, only ethically. And when it comes to money most people drop their ethics faster than you type responses without thinking.

I'd give your idea a few years before these "friendly" and idealistic banks either get bought out by a bigger bank or went under. And you only need look to history for that. Or don't you learn from history?

Edit: Thinking on your idea, maybe we could use it to stop all crime in the world as well. You stop committing crimes, tell you family and friends to do the same, and they tell their friends and family...
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 7:19, closed)

It's not about economic efficiency anymore, you muppet.
When 9 times out of 10, that 'efficiency' is at the cost of some poor soul having his/her job shipped off to India.

WHO is benefiting from those fabulous fucking 'bigger returns', then? Not the newly unemployed, not their families and not their community or their country.

The majority of the people ARE waking up to this fact, just because you're one of the slower ones doesn't mean you should be so snappy. It's impolite and I WILL GET OFFENDED, YOU CUCK SUCKING CONT.

And do you really think that spreading empathy and love in families, instead of poverty and disenfranchisement, may help lower the crime rate? Then you are a fucking communist hippy scum who smokes crack.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 7:33, closed)

Wow! I certainly touched a nerve.
Good idea to answer with unfounded insults and ill-conceived ideas. Makes you look like you really know what you're talking about.

Why do you think people put their money into a bank? Safety? Ease of access from anywhere in the country? A return on their investment? These are the benefits for the people investing, and the more efficient the bank is, the better these factors *could* be. Or are you going to argue against efficiency of any sort, as you only equate it to job losses? Now that's slow thinking.

I like your statement about the majority of people waking up to the facts you mention. It's just like any other "fact" people make up on the spot to prove a point. What are you, a spotty 16 year-old with no experience in the real world, spouting idealistic claptrap? I think you're the one that should look outside and wake up to reality.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 7:43, closed)

Your world is very black and white, isn't it?
RACIST.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 7:55, closed)

Ha ha ha.

(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 8:11, closed)

ha. I just saw some red, too.

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Thu 3 Nov 2011, 0:59, closed)

You've been seeing red throughout this whole thread
Just a shame you've not seen sense
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 7:17, closed)

The contempt you have can be nothing for the contempt I have for you.
"Research". Does that mean reading just what you want to hear, or does it mean basing your argument on a Financial Degree and years in the financial sector...

Readjust your tin-foil hat and come back when you've grown up.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 15:37, closed)

People with years of experience in the Financial Sector
crashed the world economy in 2008.

So, what the fuck, sunshine?
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 0:00, closed)

Duuuh...
Try thinking a bit. In a QOTW aimed at racism (and arguably against negative stereotypes of groups in general) you certainly do like to show how narrow-minded you are.

You're the sort of person that could argue we shouldn't have any police because of the behaviour of a minority. There will always be people around with years of financial experience because we use money on this planet, you numpty. Are you putting them ALL in the same bucket? Are you suggesting we put the world finances into the hands of people with NO financial experience? If you are, you're more frightening than I though.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 7:12, closed)

Yes. Putting the world economy in the hands of the 'experts' was a major stunning fucking success.
Well, it was for them.
They got bonuses and bailouts and bigger yachts.

Let's do it again?

www.occupywallst.org/
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 7:50, closed)

I didn't get a bigger yacht. I feel cheated.
So we put the world economy in the hands of people that aren't experts?

Is that why the OccupyWallSt group's arguments are so unrealistic and, well, lacking in expertise?

Would you entrust your life savings to Alan Sugar or the crusties outside St Pauls? I think we both know who'd make you money and who'd not. And at the end of day, we're both talking about money. Ethics aside, everyone still wants their slice of the pie.

I can't argue against your feelings that there is unfairness in the world, and that there are thieving gits who will screw whole economies just to make a quick buck. I just don't think anyone's put forward a more *sustainable* model for a world economy. There will always be someone out there that will take advantage. What we need are more laws to restrict them. I don't think we need a system based on ethics - some people just don't have them.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 8:24, closed)

yeah. and you just outted yourself as one of them.

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:06, closed)

"Them" being one of the top 1% controlling the world economy?
Thanks for that. I'm off to wield some power...
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:58, closed)

probably a nobler way to spend your time
than arguing with a small be-boned breakfast fish on why the dinosaur ideals he is clinging to so desperately are fucking him over.

Still, different strokes, eh?
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 12:19, closed)

You do realize
That you've just called yourself the "small be-boned breakfast fish" (sic) with the dinosaur ideals.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 13:50, closed)

not at all.

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 14:04, closed)

You mean "Not at all"
Until someone pointed it out to you.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 14:59, closed)

FLOUNCED ^



what do I win?
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Thu 3 Nov 2011, 1:01, closed)

A brain cell
To keep your other one company.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 7:22, closed)

Isnt it...
...just the usual Poshos with scarves over their faces?
the 'bollo bollo' accents I heard when I had a nose over there suggests it is...

must be terrible for the poor little darlings not fitting into any aspect of real life


'Shiiit, you gotta be rich in the first place to think like that'
( bigmeuprudeboy is using powerpoint or paint...have MERCY, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 16:19, closed)

You poor soul
I've done my research. Unfortunately The Occupy website doesn't actually give a clear message. Their arbitrary 1% and conspiracy theories seem to be quite prominent, but unbiased, well thought-out and balanced views do not.

There's lots of talk about "them" and "the people", with loads of unsubstantiated "facts" thrown about. All with a good dose of American patriotism so cover any cracks in their arguments.

There may have been a message in there somewhere, but the multitude of activists with an axe to grind have jumped in to bask in the media attention.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 10:56, closed)

Get off your
soapbox, you tosser.
(username failed moderation, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 8:44, closed)

Best flounce eva innit!!!

( addickted has attained freedom, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 8:46, closed)

xxx

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:04, closed)

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hahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaha
hahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahaha
hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaa...wait...you mean you weren't intentionally being funny?
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 8:55, closed)

If I have to explain it
it ruins it
so stfu
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:05, closed)

Hmm
That's a typically western attitude of self-righteousness.

I hope you've actually been to these places and seen it for yourself before making patronising judgements about other people's work and living conditions.

If you haven't then you have absolutely no right to the moral high ground as you're displaying just as much prejudice as those you're deriding.
( durbster durbster.co.uk, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:31, closed)

Fuck you.
I'm actually displaying MORE prejudice. Because I should know better. I'm white, you see.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:34, closed)

Wow, that's a witty response
:)
( durbster durbster.co.uk, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:38, closed)

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( bigmeuprudeboy is using powerpoint or paint...have MERCY, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 16:20, closed)

I'm a Nazi.
Why the fuck should I care about slaves?
( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:33, closed)

because cheap consumer goods.

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:35, closed)

Cheap consumer goods are good.
I repeat, why should I care about the slaves that provide me with them?
As Himmler put it "We should not give any concern about the welfare of a slav woman digging an anti-tank ditch in the East as long as the ditch is dug."
( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:48, closed)

Godwin's law slays yet another valiant young hero =(

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 10:52, closed)

Goodwin's Law only applies when you're NOT talking to a Nazi.
I told you up there /\ that I AM.
What are you, some kind of Jew?
( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 11:13, closed)

why would you care?
do you need a loan?
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 11:19, closed)

I'm making a list.
And checking it twice.
So people can see who's naughty not nice.
/Nick Griffin blog.
/ac
( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 11:21, closed)

It's a little-known side clause, it's true
Also doesn't apply if you're talking to a sentient monkey. No-one knows why
(Godwin's Lawyer is more evil than Hitler, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 22:31, closed)

But surely it specifies whether it must be a genuine nazi
and not just some bicycle seat sniffer who is just lying about being one online?
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Thu 3 Nov 2011, 3:38, closed)

'Goodwin's Law only applies when you're NOT talking to a Nazi'
Fuck me, I fell of me chair laughing there.
(El Fandango carved a big EF onto his nemesis' doublet on .., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 18:20, closed)

"bondage"
*snigger*
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:34, closed)

sadist

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:36, closed)

racist

(TheManWithThePlan cussed your mum on, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 11:35, closed)

Racy sadist
Phoarr!
( bane, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 15:10, closed)

I only buy fair-trade chocolate, tea etc. and I get almost all consumer goods second hand
...and when I set up a cafe, I made sure the ingredients were as ethically sourced as possible, with no GM, Israeli, animal products etc etc.

You're making sweeping generalisations about everybody without actually knowing what we buy. I consider myself an ethical shopper, but it can be bloody hard to get accurate info on absolutely everything, especially with all the greenwash around.

It can also be difficult to influence people to follow your example if you come across as self-righteous. Just saying.
(IHateSprouts is baking a huge pie shaped like an enormous pie, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:56, closed)

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 9:59, closed)

So
Where will you get your bacon from? Not a proper cafe if it doesn't do bacon butties.

cheers
( Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 10:19, closed)

Israel
Apparently their exports of porcine produce is huge due to the low domestic market.
(Greencloud Wanted to go fishing on, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 11:17, closed)

savage, uncompromising, deeply hypocritical AND self-righteous.
I'll gaz you my recipe for free-range garlic and wholemeal lentil bake.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 10:39, closed)

that sounds
like a delightful duvet rattler
(andythepieman Is surfing the waves of indifference on, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 11:00, closed)

Who's to say they're setting an example?
It just looks like preaching to me.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 21:14, closed)

preaching scolding.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 0:06, closed)

i like that you've posted this from off-grid on your clockwork computer.

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 11:13, closed)

Yeah, you'd think I would at least be a bit humble about my hypocrisy.

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 11:24, closed)

This post makes me want to buy a jar of Nescafe.

( The Mock Turtle ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 11:17, closed)

I personally think there's nothing quite like the rich aroma of child labour to wake you up in the morning

(TheManWithThePlan cussed your mum on, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 11:36, closed)

Taste the pain.
And Nescafe kill babies too. Double bonus.
( The Mock Turtle ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 11:39, closed)

Nescafe have been a bit lax in the whole killing babies business recently.
They've bowed down to political correctness and do-gooder libruls.

I get my eau-de-dead-baby shipped in from China these days. Hidden up the vajojos of enslaved prostitutes.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 13:01, closed)

they cost a little more
but they taste so much better
( Ya What Skiddlyboop, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 13:03, closed)

"vajojos"? Really?
Now c'mon Shambles, srsly!
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 19:58, closed)

if he said 'cunt'
it would be offensive.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 5:44, closed)

Nice thread. Can I come in for a swear?

( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 12:14, closed)

why the fuck not?
throw a few profanities back while you work out if you're supposed to feel offended or not.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 12:23, closed)

well then, i'll be on my lunch...
...seeing as Gritty is already on the cross...
( Ya What Skiddlyboop, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 12:52, closed)

you terrible, awful troll.
i'm telling the mods on you.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 13:38, closed)

?
Why?
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 14:07, closed)

You're a nob.

(natakins, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 14:52, closed)

Do you feel better with that off your chest?

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 15:03, closed)

Succinct, yet oddly appropriate.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 15:30, closed)

It isn't succint, not at all.
In fact, it raises more questions than it answers.
What does he mean by 'nob'? That I am a member of the nobility?
Or does he in fact mean 'knob'? That I am a male generative organ?

Both of these assertions are entirely problematic.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 4:27, closed)

You can't count either.
Only one of those assertations is problematic.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 8:53, closed)

Well then you should address me as 'Your Lady'.
that's what you meant, right?
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:05, closed)

I get your user name now.
Gritty in this thread, fluffy in my one.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 15:18, closed)

That's not racism.
It's called CAPITALISM.
And it doesn't give a fuck about what race/creed/age group is subjugated for profit.
In fact, it could be argued that you're being racist by projecting your discriminatory belief system onto it.
Although I believe that you're probably not.
( P-MONKE We're all fucked, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 14:25, closed)

It's high time for a revolution.
Capitalism is eating itself.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Tue 1 Nov 2011, 15:05, closed)

I thought that that was pop?

( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 18:20, closed)

If you have access to a dictionary, you may discover that racism and capitalism have different meanings...
(anvil, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 17:16, closed)

But that's OK, because ALL isms are caused by the same thing, remember.
www.b3ta.com/questions/racistgrandparents/post1412724
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 17:40, closed)

^Nicely done^

( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 18:21, closed)

That works very well
If you ignore my correction.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 19:32, closed)

You do take yourself awfully seriously, don't you?

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 19:51, closed)

Only when I think it's appropriate.
My highest scoring joke on Sicki is racist (or possibly worse)
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 21:31, closed)

oh fucking great....
lets all make racist jokes popular again - that will show those racists a thing or two won't it.

Feel free to surprise me with some "holier than thou" justification for it as well... go on impress me !
( sutit only the crumbliest, flakiest posts, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 0:18, closed)

No. I want to make SEXIST jokes popular again
So I can be offended, too.
Why do you oppress me?
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 4:36, closed)

1. It's a sick joke site.
2. It was about the Irish. (can't wait for your response)
3. Nobody's perfect, or ever claimed to be.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:36, closed)

well that makes it ok then
as long as its nothing to do with Trinidadian, Carib, French, English or Scottish then your fine.

...(my ancestors got around and fucked any race they could find)
( sutit only the crumbliest, flakiest posts, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 18:48, closed)

You are either a genius troll or a fucking retard.
I know what my money is on though.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 8:50, closed)

Not sure I need to be either
to express an opinion on here.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:37, closed)

I didn't say you needed to be.
I said you were.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:52, closed)

some people get real touchy
when your opinion is not the same as theirs.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 10:42, closed)

Don't the plants in your greenhouse die?
What with all the cold air swirling around and lack of insulation.
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 15:26, closed)

good lord, no.
I don't live in the frozen wastes of the north like some sort of fucking barbarian.

The weather is utopian here. I don't need a greenhouse. Although I *suspect* you meant glasshouse. DIDN'T YOU?
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Thu 3 Nov 2011, 0:45, closed)

Nothing gets past you does it?
I rather figured the more modern alternative may improve the subtlety of the implied insult, if you got offended by words of course, which you don't.


Also, what is utopian weather, is it good for sitting down with a nice brew? Earl Grey anyone?
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Thu 3 Nov 2011, 8:04, closed)

FFS yet again
"NO ONE has come on and related any tales of how their grandad and his mates once ran down a nigger in a pickup truck..."

We are not niggers - we are are black people. Try reading it out loud to yourself. Why did you say this?
( sutit only the crumbliest, flakiest posts, Tue 1 Nov 2011, 23:34, closed)

The same reason I said 'white cunt'.
because it is apparently 'offensive'. If you sit back like a passive victim and insist that it is, it will always be.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 0:09, closed)

what the fuck
How on earth is calling a black person a "nigger" or white person a "white cunt" only apparently offensive.

Who the fuck are you to decide this? Wake up and stop trying to be clever and put yourself in the real world for once.

I suggest you go and field test your theory by going into any area of London with a large black or Asian ethnic community and shout nigger. Then come back to me after you explain that they are being passive victims.
( sutit only the crumbliest, flakiest posts, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 0:37, closed)

If you read what I actually wrote
I said that NO ONE was coming on here saying that.
NO ONE does go into ethnic areas and make racist slurs.

I also said that mean words are not racism.

Getting pissy and flouncing because some nasty sod said some mean words and I CHOSE to get offended and my feelings all did a big hurty is entirely subverting what REAL racism is.

And that is fucking pathetic.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 4:34, closed)

Can you just confirm for me
that we can call you whatever we like and it will only be offensive if you so choose? I think that is what you just intimated but I wanted to make sure.

Oh, and whilst you're at it can you let me know what 'REAL' racism is as opposed to that fancy knock off stuff that you can pick up for a quid down at the market.
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 7:59, closed)

Yeah, um the REAL racism that you so casually overlooked up there would be
how cheerfully we let the inequality continue.
Don't go for cheap home brands, as they are only trying to seize control of the market.

call me what you want but just don't bother trying to shock me, princess. you'll be wasting your time.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:01, closed)

Holy cow.
Are the words people have been using too long for you? You seem to be a very confused young person.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:10, closed)

no.
it's just you.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 10:41, closed)

Did you really just try to claim that calling a black person a nigger is not racism?
Please, help me out, I think I must have misunderstood.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 8:52, closed)

nigger is just a word
not a sword drenched in the blood of slain infants.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:03, closed)

OK, thanks for confirming.
I needed to know if I was talking to someone who has any footing in the world or a complete fucking imbecile.

Now I know.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:06, closed)

^this^
succinct and to the point !

fucking superb !
( sutit only the crumbliest, flakiest posts, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:22, closed)

Well said.
Maybe we need a "Troll Alert" button. You don't want to ignore them, it's fun to see them floundering, but reasoning with them only makes things worse.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 11:54, closed)

You need a 'I Just Poohed My Corduroys' button
much more than a Troll Alert.
FACT.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 12:26, closed)

I think you're trying to answer too many threads at the same time.
Your ramblings are getting more erratic.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 15:08, closed)

I quite like the idea of a 'Corduroy soiling' button but I think the 'Troll Alert'
will get more use generally, especially if it came with an animated gif of yellow and black hatching and a flashing beacon on the original post.
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 15:37, closed)

OR it could have a scarlet 'R' on it?
you puritan fuck.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Thu 3 Nov 2011, 0:43, closed)

...or Lapsang suchong?
You can even have a Jammy Dodger to go with it. You know you'll feel better after.
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Thu 3 Nov 2011, 8:00, closed)

you cannot be serious
go fuck your self you are being so narrow minded. As in one of my earlier posts:

"I remember walking down the street in Streatham about 8 years old holding my dads hand and someone with real hatred screaming at me that I am a nigger and my dad is a nigger lover.

Being in an Essex primary school and little fuckers calling me wog, nigger, blackie, chanting there ain't no black in the union jack so send those niggers back and thinking it was funny and that I should laugh with them."

I have been verbally and physically abused because of the color of my skin by people using words like nigger and following up with violence. You need to get out more and understand the world is far more complex and layered than what you with your pseudo socialist fucked up blinkered view realises.
( sutit only the crumbliest, flakiest posts, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:18, closed)

get over it.

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 10:40, closed)

ah the standard
fuckwit response comes out

i did get over it, every single time - I'm illustrating my point from personal experience
( sutit only the crumbliest, flakiest posts, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 10:52, closed)

You're wasting your breath with the Gritty Fluffer.
It's like reasoning with a plant.

The fact the in the eyes of the law, racism (or racial abuse) is the offence taken by the victim, not the intent of the perpetrator. Open to mis-use, for sure, but it does mean it's pointless arguing "Nigger" isn't offensive.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 12:04, closed)

WELL DON'T FUCKING SAY THE WORD OUT LOUD. YOU'RE AS BAD AS STALIN.

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 12:22, closed)

Now you've gone from imbecile to utter cunt.
You are a despicable human being. As long as you are comfortable knowing that, then good for you.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 11:02, closed)

You're taking remarks on a comedy website to heart -

AND I'M THE CUNT?


dude.

[/shakes head]
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 12:24, closed)

Oh, love,
If you think I am taking you to heart then I'm afraid I have very much mislead you. I wouldn't take you to heart if you were on fire, I assure you.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 13:03, closed)

And your knickers are thoroughly untwisted.

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 13:21, closed)

Yes

( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 13:24, closed)

Hello Sammi.

( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:25, closed)

this is bullshit
and so very very narrow minded, you need to get out more into the real world as you sound like a narrow minded socialist worker

racism is personal, local and global
( sutit only the crumbliest, flakiest posts, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:01, closed)

No fucking way.
those cunts out there are all racist, sexist fucking homophobes.
screw that.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 9:04, closed)

What a horrible thread this is.

(Connor Lingus is running this monkey farm now, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 13:02, closed)

Come in. I'll have the stable boy saddle you a high horse.
and we shall take it riding across the moral high grounds.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 13:24, closed)

Really, are you on glue?
You seem very emotional/highly strung/manic etc. There are mink that aren't quite as reactionary and stubbornly aggressive. Do you just need a cuddle and a cup of tea?
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 13:39, closed)

That wasn't creepy, it's ok.
You know what? YOUR high horse is going to have to be a giraffe.
With gigantism.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Wed 2 Nov 2011, 14:09, closed)

At least it will be novel.
Thanks for making a special effort to find me something different. I assume it is a free range giraffe with gigantism not one of those grotesque intensively farmed 'mega-giraffes' that are so popular with it girls and footballers' wives?
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 14:39, closed)

just asking is all, don't want any trouble, we've all had a drink etc etc
Are you saying that you are better than the rest of us, or that you are as bad as all of us? You're initial rant states the things we use in everyday life and how by using them, it makes us just as racist etc as older generations. If, somehow you are claiming to be better than the rest of us, you're a hypocrite as my lame attempt at fact finding states here from wikipedia: Coltan is used primarily for the production of tantalum capacitors, used in many electronic devices. Many sources mention coltan's importance in the production of cell phones, but this is an over-simplification, as tantalum capacitors are used in almost every kind of electronic device. Like computers, which you would've used to write your thing about what we're all doing to the planet. If, however you're saying that we're all 'racist' and including yourself in the 'all', then i guess that makes it a bit better. To sum up, is it a statement about us as apposed to you or us including you?

Just trying to clear this up.
( Ya What Skiddlyboop, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 14:59, closed)

That was for 'gritty, yet fluffy' to answer not me, yeah?
You want the reply button one nest thatta way.
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 15:19, closed)

yeah sorry,
still not quite got the hang of this malarkey....
( Ya What Skiddlyboop, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 15:27, closed)

Pas de problémé, neither have I.

( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 15:33, closed)

I did go on further to state that I was a raging hypocrite
but that was in the replies.

However, I have special dispensation to use slave-produced goods, as I cry tears of blood and continually tell myself how much I hate myself THE WHOLE TIME I AM USING A COMPUTER.

I think that should answer your question.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Thu 3 Nov 2011, 0:40, closed)

well then...
...that's that cleared up. well done.
( Ya What Skiddlyboop, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 9:10, closed)

Oh, won't someone think of the children!
What happens to these poor child slaves etc when we stop buying their products? Do they all go to a happy camp with happy things to do in a happy way?

Your whole argument appears to revolve around the fact that the world isn't fair. But whatever gave you the impression it was going to be?


Just as a side note on the anti-capitalist protestors ..... Seems to me that the only person who's so far succeeded in using rhetoric to turn a whole society against a money-rich elite group of international financiers was, um, Hitler.

And that didn't end well, did it?
(El Fandango carved a big EF onto his nemesis' doublet on .., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 18:37, closed)

because clearly Hitler and the Occupy movement
peas in a pod. Yes. your thought processes what lead you up to this stunning and marvellous conclusion are flawless.
(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Thu 3 Nov 2011, 0:36, closed)

Hitler did organise big get togethers...
rallies I think one might call them. They drank lots of tea too.
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Thu 3 Nov 2011, 8:14, closed)