Prometheus Explained
This vid has all the spoilers you could ever need to totally ruin the movie for those who haven't yet seen it, but I'm bored of not being able to talk about this movie specifically on here, so just looked for someone else's review/explanation I basically agreed with so folks who want to know why I n others don't hate it can maybe look at it, or not.
This dude gets it IMO, so those of you who've watched it and feel confused or disappointed that all your questions were not answered, this should sort you out, although I personally don't think The Engineers are The Creators, I think they've not been seen yet myself and The Engineers are just more organic constructs made by The Creators to do a job, and he doesn't really go into the logical extrapolations of a race that uses organic solutions to its everyday problems and how that would make their attitude to all organic life completely at odds with ours and how that would in itself explain why The Engineers don't see us as important enough to engage with regardless of whatever the fuck David said.
Anyway, don't watch if you don't wanna know n don't moan 'cos you did n didn't like it, but if you have watched it n wanna know why some folks didn't hate it, well here you go.
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:15,
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I thought Prometheus could be explained in three words.
Aliens done it.
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stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:21,
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I don't need anything explained, it was a fucking mess.
But very well made.
Also, there's a difference between ambiguity and a poor script.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:23,
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i with you on this,
a friend of mine put it this way, "it was like someone went to all the trouble to prepare a fantastic gourmet meal, but then just kept passing out the low cal appetizers all night"
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:30,
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Hey, did you like Prometheus?
- no, not really
Why
- It was a mess full of plotholes
Jesus, you clearly didn't 'get it'
- I did 'get it', I'm not an idiot, some of it was ridiculous
Yeah, well go online, you'll get it then
- Fuck you
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:33,
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i think i have had this exact conversation
three times since seeing it yesterday.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:36,
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Not enough explosions and shooting in it for you
was there? I bet you only went to see it for the mindless violence. I know your type.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:38,
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Hey, did you hate Prometheus?
- No not really
Why
- It was a well made, fascinating, if slightly muddled sci-fi film.
Jesus, you clearly didn't analyse it hard enough
- I did, I'm not an idiot, it just wasn't nearly as baffling as crazy internet nerds seem to think. almost all the criticisms are embarrassing pedantry
Yeah, well go online, you'll understand all the problems then
- Fuck you
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Zoroastermouse thinks therefore he am, Mon 25 Jun 2012, 3:15,
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It felt to me
like it had started life as a good script with an interesting idea, but had then been got at by producers and script committees until it became the unintelligible mess it ended up as.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:28,
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Does it explain why
someone told Idris Elba he could pull off that accent?
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:26,
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Yeh I dunno about some of the casting myself, but I guess they wanted relative unknowns
And it's always hard to marry that with good big screen performances.
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:49,
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He is a pretty big star these days
he managed in The Wire, but in this...bloody awful!
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:03,
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I recognised no one but David, as I don't do soaps n similar. Which is what I'm assumin The Wire is.
Possibly his lacklustre performance was due to Ridleys more relaxed involvement as a director these days, he used to micromanage his actors, the live track you can only hear on the original Alien DVD demonstrates how he got a performance out of Sigourney who was apparently useless at the time, but word has it he leaves actors to it now, mayhaps this chap just didn't gel with the role?
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:14,
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You HAVE to watch The Wire WiL
it's fucking outstanding.
He may well have not gelled with the role, but then who is going to turn down the chance of working with Ridley Scott in a film like that. :D
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:54,
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I know it's weird but I simply can't seem to be bothered with any new fictional universes now, certainly not as shown on TV
But you can get the Boxset at any point with these things once they're a known quantity so I might invest in it for some Xmas hols or something n get into it late...
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:16,
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The Wire
is just brilliant. One of the greatest shows on TV, ever.
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Pew Pew Pew! Lasers! wannabe Gong Farmer, Mon 25 Jun 2012, 9:44,
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He got promoted
from the Corner.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:14,
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I better torrent this off my neighbours wifi before watching that spoiler.
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wait?!
you have yet to see it??! Mr. it was a great movie?
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:33,
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I was only saying that to annoy Tab Hunter.
But hes gone mental on Meth.
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AGAIN?
For fucks sake. I'm still getting the stains out from last time.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:37,
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Well not all the time.
It does make him fun at a party when we need someone to laugh at.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:44,
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I said 'laugh at'
not 'send to hospital'.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:57,
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ah, i see. what they say about you is true.
well Meth is better than 'Bath Salts', at least that way he wont be chewing peoples faces off.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:44,
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That term is starting to bug me, 'bath salts' is just the merkin phrase for legal highs
Legal highs are legal versions of every form of illegal chemical slightly adjusted so they arent illegal, so saying it was bath salts what done it is about as sensible as saying its forrins what's at fault for everything.
Bit of a sweeping fucking statement there.
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:34,
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Oh the term bugs me too... MDPV doesnt have the same ring to it does it?
The news media, seems to have run with the name Bath Salts as a name with little or no understanding what they are talking about, but that is nothing new.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Mon 25 Jun 2012, 0:31,
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Couldn't agree more with this review spot on.
I have always defended the film as I genuinely liked it but there was so many people who pulled it apart and I didn't have answers to their questions but this explains it better than i could have. I have high hopes for the sequel to this.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:40,
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I thank you!
Me too.
Hey when you come right down to it all that matters is did you get your money's worth, and I did, so fuck 'em.
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:50,
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Exactly I came out of the theatre feeling that I'd watched something better and more interesting
than the usual popcorn action flick. I had questions, and some of the acting wasn't of a high standard but all in all I was glad to have been a part of the experience IMAX and 3D which was all done very well.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:56,
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Yeh it made me think whilst entertaining me
No bloody films done that to me in fucking years, so I was happy, regardless of a few dodgy bits n slow parts.
I get a strong feeling there's gonna be an extended version cos some bits seemed to have missing plot points, but we'll see...
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:02,
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Oh yes I'm 100% sure their will be a director's cut
and maybe some of the stuff will be better explained by Ridley Scott himself. What irks me about some people who have ripped the film apart is that they fail to see that this is a Ridley Scott film, there will be easter (alien) eggs everywhere and he wouldn't dare risk his reputation putting together a rubbish ill thought out mess of a movie there has to be a reasons and I'm sure those reasons will be provided in good time. But even if Ridley Scott had suddenly gone off his head and made a mess of a movie then the Producers and Money Men of Hollywood would have squashed it flat dead rather than risk losing millions on a mess - so there is more that's for sure.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:10,
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He has had his name
associated with some stuff that wasn't great.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:20,
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I dunno I gave that a 8/10
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:27,
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Maybe, but are we talking about as a director or just something he was vaguely involved in
as far as Sci-Fi films are concerned Ridley Scott is the best and most innovative director there is. And with a film of this hype and financial backing there is no way that he's completely lost the plot. If it was a money thing and was being the puppet of Hollywood we would have had the popcorn action horror sci-fi but it would have been forgettable and dull and the sequel will just have been Prometheus 2 and not something that itself will be a unique film and give us more insight into the first film.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:27,
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I didn't say he had completely lost the plot.
There are plenty of directors who I love, who are good at making a particular type of film, who sometimes don't make a good one, for one reason or another. That's life.
As is the fact you loved it, and I thought it had issues.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:40,
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There are issues of course
some of the characters are completely one dimensional they could have been replaced by cardboard cut-outs with more depth. But I'm enjoying the debate about the film and the speculation about it's meaning and why it has such obviously large plot holes that make it feel disjointed which Ridley Scott must have known it was going to cause people to hate it but that's what makes me more sure he has good answers.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:45,
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I would do a major squee if James Cameron directed the next one, tho
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:28,
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Now you're talking if Cameron did what he did in Aliens
to Prometheus it would be fucking epic.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:32,
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I concur
Aliens is the motherfuck.
unlikely though, he's first making Avatar 2 and 3 back to back, though they have different plots then Battle Angel based on the anime Battle Angel Alita
imjussayin
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:52,
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yeah
fuck 'em : )
I was well excited leaving the cinema, rambling on about it to my girlfriend until she got annoyed : P
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They started the spaceship
With a fucking flute ????????? Really ????
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Shinigawa The milky bars are on me, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:49,
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Yah really!
And theres a whole host of idiots moaning that David couldn't have blown it too.
Over thinkin things somewhat methinks, hell if you're super advanced organic engineers you can start your spaceship/*holothingummy any fucking way you want, I guess...
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:57,
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In Close Encounters of the Third Kind they communicate with music
Music is very mathematical based and is a good method of encryption so why not. And they don't start the Spaceship with it, it just brings up the holographic computer display like a remote control might do the same thing.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:00,
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What if they lost the flute down the back of the sofa ?
Or sumfin ? Walking round there space apartment shouting " have you seen my fucking flute ! , I put them right there last night ! Who's moved them !!! "
Food for thought.
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Shinigawa The milky bars are on me, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:21,
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hahaha I'm sure that will be in the Director's Cut :D
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:29,
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You know that the studio were doing damage control for Promethues a few weeks back due to mediocre reviews.
They've already confirmed a longer cut with about 25 minutes of more footage*
Though I don't think making the film longer would solve its problems, it needs a complete re-edit.
imjussayin
*DVD
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:00,
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I think even the director's cut won't do much for it
I'm sure it will all be explained in the sequel but I'm hoping they don't have to explain stuff by making it all bullshitty like they are just glossing over stuff.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:03,
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I might stick to watching Total Recall on a loop
imjussayin
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:08,
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How did we know they were using the equal-tempered scale?!
What if they'd stuck with harmonic series? Or some other derivative?!
Sorry, I actually enjoyed Prometheus, but I won't pretend it was clever. It was the old "This mission would've been fine if they hadn't sent the idiot-brigade."
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Extinct Jesus Dossier "...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...", Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:20,
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I am considering seeing this film tonight
mostly due the massive amount of discussion I've seen here.
For the people who hated it, would you say it's more likely for an audience member to A: be absolutely pissed that they paid to watch the film or B: to be pleased to have seen it rather than missed it, despite some underlying hatred for the writers?
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the prick of misery pierced my foot on a spiiiike on, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:56,
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Depends, if you're a fan of the whole alien franchise and want to follow this continuing story it's a must see
If you're looking for an action movie that resembles what the trailer promises, I'd try n get a cheaper ticket.
*edit* just remember the two most important points, this is set BEFORE anything is known about the Aiens, and it is NOT self contained, so don't expect everything to tie up neatly at the end.
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 20:59,
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B
It has numerous problems but it's visually engaging with some nice ideas, so as much as I dislike several parts of it, I would still recommend it.
The 'operation' scene is quite something.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:00,
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Having seen it twice now, that scene stopped the fucking cinema DEAD both times
Worth it just for that I reckon, it was the only feckin peace I got from the stupid chav bitch next to me rustling her friggin Haribo thru out anyhoo, she couldn't face 'em for at least 20 minutes after that.
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:25,
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Not as bad as when I went to see the Avengers
There was a kid sat next to me who kept 'announcing' which superhero would appear on screen before it happened, at one point he got confused and said Tony Stark was the Hulk.
I can laugh now though as I raped his mother.
spotify:track:1q9l6c8bAzqWcvO3DM6FsR (I Don't Feel Like Dancin' by Scissor Sisters)
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:33,
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Yeah sorry about the haribo I was hungry and it was £3 a pack at the cinema :D
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:38,
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i have a mate that always has nachos, the dirty cunt
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:42,
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Stinky and noisy I bet people love him at the cinema
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:50,
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he's also quite fat and likes telling you stuff when you're watching a film
that said, some of the stuff he says is hilarious
though I usually try not to sit next to him
Japes!
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:52,
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I remember when we saw Lord of the Rings 3
There's a guy on fire running down a hallway, he turns to me and says
'Fuck this, I'm off for some Kentucky'
This amused me greatly, plus it's a quote from 24 Hour Party People, which is goode.
spotify:track:6pe0lZVIdB5EGnC4DPKkoM (Land of a Thousand Words by Scissor Sisters)
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:19,
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It's epic in IMAX 3D the film is good regardless of what you walk away feeling like at the end of it.
It's an enigmatic film that is challenging and will make you want to learn more about it.
I fully recommend people watch it. Very few people have said it was a waste of their money.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:05,
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very well
Thanks for the opinions, folks. I'm going to give it a go (and then I'll actually be able to read these discussions).
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the prick of misery pierced my foot on a spiiiike on, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:15,
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B
Don't expect to feel engaged to any of the characters, or care about them, try and ignore the overblown and sometimes cheesy patriotic soundtrack, same with much of the script..and Idris Elbas accent :D
Enjoy it for how visually stunning it is.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:13,
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I like how two of the three guys who do 'that thing'
never actually had any lines, so I was really concerned for their welfare
by 'like' I mean it was not good, also it really had too many characters
'David' was very good, Fassbender excellent again, he could have carried the whole film, he reminded me Asimov's Foundation novels.
imjussayin
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:17,
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I thought he was great too
but then he didn't have much competition in the 'great character' stakes.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:22,
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Vickers was a waste of time.
Plus Laurel and Hardy who got 'lost'.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:24,
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Those two so called scientists who got lost was probably the lowest part of the film
you'd have thought that people picked for a such a mission would have been strictly vetted for personality flaws and and intelligence. Seems any dumb twat could have a trip into Space under the guise of being a "scientist" haha
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:53,
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Also, doesn't the guy with the mohawk tell Noomi that he's in this for the 'money'?
Erm..isn't this a scientific mission/whatever, a minor point, but it bugged me.
I never got the impression that Laurel and Hardy were scientists, douchebags, yes.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:58,
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Most stupidest scientist ever
even the lowliest of scientists could think more rationally than that pair.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:10,
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The suits looked nice though.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:26,
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Yeh I had issues with them, I know it's a crucial plot point in these sorta movies that you have some idiots that do all the shit they aren't supposed to
You know, go into the woods alone, run UP stairs, stand by the window, shout BEFORE they fire, etc, but they were meant to be experts in their field, not bloody stoned teenagers.
Ah well...
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:30,
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Probably best if, like I did, he went to see it not having any expectations
just go to enjoy a movie.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:19,
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Probably best to go to the cinema to see this movie,
but then at the last minute change your mind and watch another one instead.
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JamTallons, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:23,
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when I went to see Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy
some dude was sat in front of me, watched the whole film, then got up and walked out 10 minutes from the end.
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:-(
I've not seen that one. But I gather its not.... great....
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JamTallons, Mon 25 Jun 2012, 8:58,
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They did ask.
I may have expanded on my answer but hey ho.
I went not expecting much, and as much as I found the plot full of holes it was the lack of basics of narrative and character development that got me the most, considering this is from one of our great artisans.
I enjoyed it for it's visual splendour, and the discussions it has created, nothing I like more than talking about filums. :D
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:26,
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I enjoyed it
Worth the money, kept me interested for its full duration.
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Shinigawa The milky bars are on me, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:24,
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The fact that the film leaves questions unanswered isn't enough, because they might be fucking stupid questions. Alien left interesting questions - as he notes - about the wreck, the space-jokey, and so on. Prometheus left questions like, "How in the hell did that get made?"
The earlier films, with a bit of imagination, were sort-of plausible: the idea that there's at least two alien species out there, and that at least one of them is a very hungry predator, and that we might one day bump into them, isn't such a leap. (Hell, even AvP fits into that.) There's nothing too silly there: all the characters are just as in the dark as we - save for Ash. But even there, the mystery is straightforwardly about how the Weyland Corp knew about LV-426.
Prometheus might have shed some light on that question. But, really, it doesn't. We have no idea why Weyland is so convinced that going to LV-223 is going to solve any of his problems - and, at the same time, the LV-426 question remains unanswered, delegitimising the whole Prometheus project.
It's often OK to leave open questions. But not always. And the open questions here were not questions that the characters would have asked; they are plainly thrown in for one of two reasons. The first of these is that the writers just thought "Oooh, open questions.... WOOooOOOoooOOO." The second is so that there's an excuse for a sequel. The first of these reasons is indicative of very poor writing (it could have been achieved with an appearance from the Care Bears, for example. Why would they be included? Ooooh, open question... WOOooOOOoooo). The second of them is indicative of a deep contempt for the audience.
So I'm tempted to agree with the guy when he says that we ought not to look at Prometheus with eyes that've seen Alien, but to take it on its own terms. Fair enough.
But that makes it even worse, because it makes no sense as a stand-alone.
We don't know why David spikes the drink. (He can't have been programmed to do that if this is the first contact humanity has had with the goo; and, again, if it isn't, it's unclear what Prometheus is on about. He can't have expected the result he got; it's just the random action of a small child... or a gratuitous plot device the only explanation of which is that it's necessary to move the story along.) We're supposed to believe that the alien species that will become the xenomorph can have a complete phenotypic makeover within the space of a generation - and that a generation can last as little as 24 hours. We're supposed to believe pseudo-goddy Erich von Däniken Chariots of the Gods stuff about humanity's origins - which involves accepting that humanity's proven genetic similarity to every single other species currently on the planet counts for nothing... unless the white dude at the start seeded all life on Earth. Does this matter? Yes, because much is made of genetic analysis. If you're going to do genetic analysis in the script, then you have to be at least plausible about it.
We're asked to believe that it's possible to reconstruct - perfectly - a language spoken by an alien species before humanity evolved. Given the impossibility of fully reconstructing proto-Indo-European, let alone primal human language per se, that's just daft. So's the idea that even a robot might be able to work that alien species' technology faultlessly at the first attempt.
We're asked to believe that dream-reading is possible, ffs. Why? Because the script is so shoddy that whatserface needs a Goddy backstory crowbarred in - again, there's a deep contempt for the audience here, because it's really not necessary to have any backstory at all - and that's the only way the piss-poor writers could do it.
And... breathe!
I could go on. In other threads, I probably will.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:36,
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TL; DR version:
Prometheus is still crap.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:37,
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I still liked it and many others did too
if you wanted Alien 5 then of course it would be disappointing. I'm hopeful and if the sequel doesn't answer anything and is just as confusing then I'll agree with you but I'm sure it won't be.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:42,
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I could happily answer all of that but I didn't actually want to start spoiler discussions that get into specific plot ponts on here
But how you can be confused by Weylands interest in meeting his makers at that point in his life is a tad beyond me to say the least, he specifies his interest very clearly many times.
Also you seem to answer half of your questions in your next sentence, but David makes it very clear why he does what he does right before he does it, combined with the fact he has no more need to care about the life of one man than the Engineers, androids in this universe are NOT Isaac Asimov approved.
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:06,
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My biggest issue with Prometheus was def the entire genetics part of the plot
Things like that do nothing but spread ignorance. If they had changed the genetic link, making the "Makers" into a more intergalactic self proclaimed police force, checking up on planet evolution and using the Aliens (facehuggers removed from eggs and put inside the vases for more secure transport) to scourge dangerous planets.
Wayland going there to plunder the maker tech to live longer (instead of waking up a maker and finding out that he wasn't a morning person)
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Crap Little Monkey Deathstar, so good they built it twice, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:13,
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I don't think he was a maker
I think he was just a grunt with a job to do.
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..wil, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:21,
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As I saw it
the David/drink bit was insinuating that David was waiting to see whether or not Holloway would act like a cock to him because he was a robot; he decided that Holloway was a cock, and deserved to have whatever the tainted drink might do to him. The sequence suggested to me (and I'm not saying I'm correct, it's just how I interpreted it) that David might have developed a "soul", because spiking the drink was so illogical it cannot/should not have been done by a robot.
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They all die in the end.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:40,
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It was something in the water, or something, i don't know.
The most important thing is that they all died in the end, that's all you need to know really.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:45,
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Even the ones that survive!
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:56,
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Nah, it turns out they were actually ghosts all along.
Did you not pick up on that!?! It was sooooo obvious.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:58,
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I heard that they will all wake up in a shower in Dallas and explain to Sue Ellen that it was all just a terrible dream.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:08,
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Just one big dream sequence, that's all it is.
The sequel is going to be set in Yorkshire and the spaceship will be a bath, you heard it here first.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:11,
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This is my favourite Prometheus vid
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0
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executiverocker only wears C&A, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:08,
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i watched this this morning.
Saw the movie last night and was in a very bad mood about it. this made me laugh, as they pretty much summed up everything that i felt after seeing it. :)
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:14,
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I love that but if you go to their website they do a much more in depth review which is far more positive.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:16,
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*SPOILER*
I was hoping the surviving Engineer was going to be a character, which would've been interesting. Instead he was just another gurning monster. A lot of the film was fun, but that was quite a disappointment for me.
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Extinct Jesus Dossier "...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...", Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:23,
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Cool
I didn't expect to enjoy that, I'm so sick of people hating on the film that I just don't bother reading or watching any more.
I loved the film, I was excited going in to watch it and I was happy having seen it.
I had my own take on it and was happy with that. I really don't see what's was so confusing about it.
It's so easy to pick a film apart, that can be done with so many films.
And it also is a really cool film to go side by side with ALIEN.
Bring on part II I reckon, can't wait.
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This is exactly how I feel about it
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executiverocker only wears C&A, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 23:04,
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I too enjoyed it.
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mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Mon 25 Jun 2012, 0:45,
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jesus christ, this is like listening to the internal dialogue of an idiot.
which is perhaps kind of apt since the film seemed to be a list of idiotic ideas.
idiotic ideas in prometheus
ancient aliens decide to make exact genetic copies of themselves on a lifeless planet by planting some dna and hoping that in 3 billion years they will magically randomly mutate into the same thing again. Or maybe they stuck around for all that time "engineering" life to go in that precise direction.. Presumably they had to in order to also recreate all the dna we inherited from all the creatures we evolved from, so they had to engineer all of those as well and make them all mate with each other in specific ways over the millenia.. yeah this is sounding likely.
Then when humans finally appear the alien idiots come and give star maps to a few primitive cultures in the hope that they would remember them several thousand years later when they could actually use them to come and visit. Or rather, they weren't all that fussed if we did or not because a collection of dots doesn't exactly identify much that you could use to pinpoint a particuar place in the galaxy.
But aparently a few dots is all it takes for a couple of archeologists to match them up to an identical pattern of dots somewhere amoungst the billions of randomly distributed dots in the sky, and from that they "reason" that aliens made human beings. No evidence needed for this, they just "believe". This was the point in the cinema when my face was firmly in my palm. And none of the crew were told any of this before leaving earth for a number of years, presumably because it sounds like bullshit.
But magically its all true, and they magically stumble upon the alien ruins where all the aliens magically died after 3 billion years of waiting for humans to arrive. They all take their helmets off in an alien environment like the idiots they are. Then 2 of them get scared and decide to wander off on their own because that would obviously be safer. They wont get lost of course since they are mapping the place in 3d, but they do anyway because they are idiots.
Then the robot smuggles some potentially biohazardous material back on to the ship so that he can make someone eat it. The only reason to do this is to see what happens if you make someone eat strange alien gunk, because the best way to find out about stuff is to make someone eat it. If you are an idiot. Or maybe he already analysed it and knew what it would do and just decided he wanted to kill the nearest human being. Or maybe he was going mad in a HAL kind of way and was just fucking around with people for the hell of it. He later tries to make a woman give birth to an alien which turns into a massive deadly squid monster, so he clearly doesnt give much of a shit about anything including his own safety.
Idiot woman brings an alien head on board the ship and suddenly she's a medical doctor who can magically bring 2000 year old severed alien heads back to life, although it explodes because thats what human heads do - I say human heads, because she then discovers it has 100% human dna. So presumably even their dna sequencing computer is an idiot, or maybe we could all be 10 foot tall blue people if we ate the right diet.
Meanwhile the 2 lost idiots go back into the alien room that they earlier were too scared to even set foot inside, and the biologist tries to make friends with an obviously hostile alien snake. They both die of idiocy. Although one of them comes back later and kills a load of people who I dont even remember seeing before, presumably they were brought along in case one of the team turned into a monster and needed some unimportant people to kill.
So with an alien growing inside her, ripley decides to extract it herself enlisting the help of none of the several people who are still alive and telling none of them about it afterwards, because a dangerous alien organism on a spaceship is always a nice surprise. Not that anyone would be interested anyway, she stumbles into a room half naked and covered in blood and no one bats an eyelid. I wont even mention the absurdity of running around after having your stomach cut open.
The old man is there, he was with them all along and didnt tell anyone for no apparent reason, and they all go back to the alien ruins not giving a shit about the people who just got killed by the last thing that crawled out of there. Or maybe nobody bothered to tell them. Nobody tells anyone anything here, its the rules. The old guy thinks the aliens will make him young again, thats why he came all the way out here. He didnt even know the aliens existed before he came, he just assumed that they did, and assumed they would still be there, and assumed they would have the secret of eternal life, and assumed they would give it to him. Just like ripley assumes the aliens want to destroy humanity because she saw some weird alien stuff she cant explain. And based on her baseless assumption the captain does the only thing i can remember him doing in the whole film which is crashing his spaceship into the other one. They all die of idiocy.
The last thing we see is ripley flying off in another alien spaceship which the alien who tried to kill her must have forgot about because he was also an idiot, and off she goes to find the alien home world so she can let them know that the human race they wanted to wipe out still exists.
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mutated monty, Sun 24 Jun 2012, 23:34,
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Is there ANYONE you won't say that to??
apart fom me!
*sobs*
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Sun 24 Jun 2012, 23:58,
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I believe that
I have only ever said that twice. In my life. On here.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Mon 25 Jun 2012, 0:01,
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my take is.....
the 'engineers' are engaged in some type of war ,hence the dead pile on the planet. The bio-chemisty is a weapon to infect humans and use them as a weapon against the 'enemy'.
The originl 'engineer' was teraforming with his DNA, split it ,sew it,a few thousand years later, humans with the same DNA make up appear, ready to be weaponised.
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