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When you lie you often have to keep lying. Share your pain. When I was 15 I pretended to be 16 to help get a summer job. Then had to spend a summer with this nice shopkeeper asking me everyday if I was excited about getting my GCSE results. I felt like an utter shit. Thanks to MerseyMal for the suggestion.
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Attempt number 7 to give up cigarettes. Hasn’t had any since early January (apparently).
‘Yep, I’m doing well, the electronic ciggies are really helping, feel better in myself, proud of myself’ etc etc.
Nicotine/spidey sense has been niggling for a few weeks now - found half empty packet of ciggies under the seat of his car on the weekend.
How long should let him go on telling his little lies?
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you could treat him like a grownup and mind your fucking business.
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I'm off to slit my wrists. I'm forced by my convictions to agree with janet.
I feel so dirty...
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He wouldn't be lying to his wife about it. In any case, she's his wife. If he does something as fucking stupid as smoking then it is her business.
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you're firmly in the 'marriage as subjugation' camp then?
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it only becomes her business once he gets emphysema or cancer?
My wife has neither of those particular ailments, but has smoked for years.
What I can tell you is that it's really shit to see her in ICU, tubes and oxygen and shit, going grey and gasping for breath, while the doctor tells her that her lungs are so fucked, that the best the would do for her is make her comfortable till they stop working completely, no resuscitation. I can't even imagine how she felt about it.
Secondly if an agreement was made, surely it deserves to be respected, bit like the whole marriage thing really. I'm quite sure there'd be no "mind your own fucking business", if she was fucking someone else behind his back, and he found an open pack of condoms under the seat of her car.
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1 Why were you searching his car? Are you some sort of mental stalker type?
2 Maybe it was an old pack. Maybe it had been under that seat for years.
3 If he's only giving up to stop you whinging at him about smoking all the time maybe he'd be better off without you. You're supposed to be his wife not his mother.
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and make smoke the remaining cigarettes, consecutively.
If that doesn't work, get loads more and make him smoke them all, until he is cured (like bacon is cured).
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stop smoking because you told him to.
He'll never give up until he wants to. That might be when he's breathing his last breath, sadly, but you're just making him uncomfortable and not achieving anything.
I'd suggest you tell him you know now.
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You seriously want to set him up to fail and then guilt him out because he failed?
How about telling him that even tho you may not like him smoking you accept him for who he is and for all his foibles (much like he may have done for you in the past).
If he wants to quit then offer/find him some support rather than questioning him, putting him on the spot and being suspicious of him.
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Is he breaking a pact by lying to you?
Maybe he's seen how well you are doing and doesn't want to risk ruining it for you even though he's not succeeded?
At the end of the day, it's his business, no?
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just so his missus can remind him that that's his business, and nothing to do with her. Then he dies, alone.
There's a lesson for us all, kids: smoking makes you look cool.
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then I stand by my point.
Obviously if he is so utterly oblivious to the outside world that he doesn't know it's dangerous, disgusting, dirty and other dergotatory 'd' words, then yes, maybe bring him up to speed.
(Can you spot the righteous ex-smoker here?)
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My weak claim to fame is that I once had a hole burned* into my jacket by one of the cigarettes that contributed to Roy Castle's death. This first hand experience of the true horror of smoking allows me to speak with a high degree of authority.
*Being a nylon jacket, it didn't so much burn, as melt.
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There is a contradtiction in your argument, I'm afraid. On the one hand you say smoking is bad. On the other you say it lead to the death of Roy Castle.
You can't have it both ways.
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You're just bitter 'cos you never got that "most cigarettes smoked at once" record, aren't you?
I would like a cuddly toy, please. If you don't have that, an X-box will be an acceptable substitute.
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and their final thought is "If only I hadn't given up smoking, I would have enjoyed these final months more"
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He got the maximum amount of looking cool by smoking, that any man could, then neatly avoided all that lingering death bollocks.
Remember kids: Smoking makes you look cool, and driving like a twat will cement your legacy as a true icon.
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and he was hit by a car every day for the next 73 years until he had a cigarette and died.
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I'm glad he's dead, so you can learn this valuable lesson.
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Then shine a light in his eyes while waving the half-packet of cigarettes at him and shouting "Confess! Confess!"
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whilst he is still inhaling nicotine from an electronic cigarette he actually hasn't given up anything, in fact he's probably got a bigger fucking habit now. Granted it's cheaper and doesn't fuck your lungs up as much, but he's still hooked and while he's still hooked he'll still crave it like a man possessed until he rids his body of nicotine for at least three weeks.
Champix (from my GP) and Alan Car (from the Library) worked for me The Champix fixed the physical craving and Alan Car's book broke the mental obsession. Tax helped a lot too - it was either eat or smoke in the end and I couldn't afford to do both.
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Also, e-cigarettes do not make you look cool. An arm load of patches is where it's at - way cooler than tattoos.
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The substitutes/replacements all have nicotine in them to keep you hooked.
Cold turkey is the only way, and it will only happen if he wants to - your nagging will only serve to fuel the surreptitious behaviour, although it would be funny as fuck to confront him on it.
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I used nictone gum for 9 months, switched to regular sugar free gum after that and have now stopped that too.
Not a craving had.
Not saying that it will work for everyone, just saying that sweeping 'cold turkey is the only way' statements aren't true.
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E-cigarettes contain glycols, so you're inhaling vaporised antifreeze. Probably not great for the inner workings.
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say to him: "Look, I saw that ciggie pack under the car seat, so I appreciate that you care enough about my feelings to give up smoking when you are with me - which is a fairly big chunk of time - and that you must have cut down drastically. I understand your work is probably fairly stressful at times and I tend to agree that the odd ciggie may help you deal with the stress and is, possibly less harmful than dealing with it by getting drunk every night. So, thank you darling, I'm not going to have a go at you or get into a strop, in fact, if you want to go into the garden for a quiet fag of an evening, then I won't mind, so long as you brush your teeth before you come to bed. Darling."
I think that might be a good compromise, don't you?
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Make the cunt feel really guilty.
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and took the hair drier out the bath, why yes, they did, a little.
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you should kill him, then yourself, leaving only a note stating how it's all his fault for his smoking and his lies. Then you should send the note to Rob Reiner.
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Simply take the packet of cigs, wee a little on each one, and then dry in the oven at a low heat, before carefully replacing.
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