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Aber's thread reminded me of something
Last night Ms Foxtrot's sister blithely said "Old films are shit". Obviously I couldn't let this lie. She qualified her statement by saying that she watches films to be entertained and not to analyse subtext an' that (she didn't like Inception. Seriously), and when asked if she'd seen Citizen Kane, replied "Saw the first half hour, it was shit".

Is there any argument to support the idea that new films are better than old? Draw the lines between the eras wherever you like. To what extent has CGI rendered decent storytelling redundant?

Alt: something a bit less South Bank Show. Current celebrity wank fantasy, or summat.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:45, 247 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

People like what they like
There is some seriously quality film-making going on at the moment, films being made in the US and other ocuntries that will be looked back on in their day as being classics. Fast Five for instance. It's easy to forget that things like Casablanca were star vehicles and didn't do that well at the time compared to how it's received now. Films have always been made to make money. That said, I do think CGI has given storytelling a kicking and a half, to the extent that huge amounts of CGI would generally not entice me to see a film, whereas a film based on a book I like would generally get a look in

Edit: they aren't a 'wank fantasy' but I do think Rosamund Pike is really pretty, and after yesterday James McAvoy a bit
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:50, Reply)

Have I read this correctly, are you saying that Fast Five will be looked back on as a classic?

(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:51, Reply)

It's called a joke Al
Given my known affection for that series
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:53, Reply)

Oh man, you totally got me.
You're like Rory Lyon with an engorged uterus.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:54, Reply)

What a horrible image
you just don't appreciate quality film-making Al
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:57, Reply)

Fuck, sorry, I misread your name as Abberacion.
Make that Rory Lyon with massive breasts.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:58, Reply)

The alarm keeps going off, and it's Al my favouite person to follow me around
Alright Al
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Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:02, Reply)

Don't call Amberl a cunt

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:57, Reply)

I feel your pain Amberl

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:54, Reply)

haha I can now see it from your viewpoint

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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:56, Reply)

You make a good point about Casablanca
It received rapturous critical praise but didn't make anywhere near as much money as a Bogart picture was expected to. Only over time has it garnered classic status.

Still not convinced that anything with Paul Walker in it will ever be considered one for the ages though.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:54, Reply)

Exactly
I've seen a lot of shit black and white films, as well as brilliant classics. It's not a dividing line of quality.

But Rosamund Pike would've been wasted in black and white
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:06, Reply)

Is Citezan Kane actually a good film
or is it just famous because it had what were in it's day new and different camera and editing techniques but which today look like every other film.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:52, Reply)

Citizen Kane is shit
unwieldy and a bit stunted
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:53, Reply)

Ignore the mental post above
Citizen Kane is a brilliant film. It was greeted with such fanfare because of the way it used depth of field and ostentatious camerawork, but it's still a quality movie, against any competition.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:55, Reply)

All film students go on about how amazing is
I disagree, it was certainly ground breaking but I found it to be OK.

Pretentious wanker student on my course thought it was the best movie ever made. He is wrong.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:06, Reply)

It's no The Empire Strikes Back

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:07, Reply)

I really have no interest in watching the old films of this type
and I can't quite place why.
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:10, Reply)

Gerard Butler.
I love old films, even when I was a kid I loved watching them. They have a certain quaintness and some of them are bloody good films which would stand up to todays cinema. I'm also a Bette Davis/Joan Crawford fanatic.

And if we're going back further, I love watching the silent films of the twenties and previous. You just don't get them on the TV like you used to.
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girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:53, Reply)

I deduce from this that your favourite film is Whatever Happened to Baby Jane
Not as good as All About Eve, for my money
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:56, Reply)

Not really. All about Eve is fantastic.
I read their biographies. You would not believe the stuff actors/actresses used to get up to at that time.
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girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:58, Reply)

Those two REALLY hated each other, didn't they

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:01, Reply)

All about Eve is a brilliant film
as is The Women. I didn't see the remake of that one, but I imagine it was shit.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:11, Reply)

get her to watch Harvey

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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:58, Reply)

Good idea
Preferably before the remake comes out. Might foist The Philadelphia Story on her too. Can't go wrong with Jimmy.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:59, Reply)

trudat
in fact, I need to get my mrs to watch Harvey
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:03, Reply)

Before the wedding
Or 'twill be a SHAM
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:04, Reply)

INBETWEENERS MOVIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:59, Reply)

Bless!
*pats on head*
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girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:59, Reply)

I <3 the inbetweeners.

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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:00, Reply)

Me too
When is the movie out?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:02, Reply)

19th Aug, donno if it's straight to telly/dvd.

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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:04, Reply)

They go on a lad's holiday to maliga.

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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:04, Reply)

Hilarity ensues
Cheers Gonz
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:05, Reply)

Here you go. A trailer for The Inbetweeners movie
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFSJUbXS47Y
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:08, Reply)

Is it just three teenage lads laughing at a pile of shit?

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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:09, Reply)

It's more or less the story of 4 friends who don't fit in with the cool kids and aren't geeks.
It has both its funny and shit moments.

The use of language at some points is very amusing. Other bits, awful.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:13, Reply)

I saw it
failed to make me laugh. I suspect it's because I never was a teenage boy, and most of the people who like it were, and can say things like 'that is sooo true to life'

Also have you seen W******* R*** yet?
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:15, Reply)

I haven't seen the latest one yet.
Was it any good, or has it gone off the boil a bit?
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:16, Reply)

You have to watch it
can't tell you what happens, but there is a really sad scene with Denzil
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:21, Reply)

I'll watch it this evening then.
And then gaz you my opinion.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:23, Reply)

Wanker Road?

(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:21, Reply)

close but no cigar

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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:22, Reply)

Waterloo Road?

(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:26, Reply)

Our secret is out :(

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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:31, Reply)

Noooo.

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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:34, Reply)

While one says "Oh come on now, don't be so immature!"
then gets drunk and wees himself.
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Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:15, Reply)

The writers are filming a pilot for a new series in MK this summer
I know a few people working on it.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:03, Reply)

Do you think you could get me involved, like, a camio or something.

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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:04, Reply)

Probably not no.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:05, Reply)

I saw the wizard of oz musical the other week and loved the tigar "Puddem Up, Puddem up ! *punch* Why ya' gotta do that for? I wasn't gonna eat him, I only wanted to scare him"

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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:00, Reply)

I think there is a big argument there
for you to break up with her. Now, she's stunning, so I understand why you don't do it.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:02, Reply)

You should break up with your girlfriend
because her sister doesn't like old films?
(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:04, Reply)

If he does split up with her, can I have her number so I can console her for the whole 10 minutes she's upset.
Totally could get in on some shitting-in-cunt action.
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:05, Reply)

You've confused me with Kroney there old chap
I'm the one everyone thinks is a bender
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:06, Reply)

That's what I mean, she must have wiped back to front in order for you to want to have to put it in there.
Kroney is the one who keeps on herping on about stuff.
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:08, Reply)

HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Classic!
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:09, Reply)

That is disgusting
I feel ashamed to click it
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:12, Reply)

Oh, her sister
I see. Well, it could be genetical, you know?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:08, Reply)

There's more likelihood of me finding a spare TARDIS
than there is of me dumping her, honey
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:10, Reply)

I know
that's why I said I understand you don't do it. But I'm still jealous.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:11, Reply)

I'm extremely flattered, of course
but I do think the timing could be better x
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:13, Reply)

Yes
You're going to have to go back in time quite a lot for it to happen, and I don't remember you doing it... I think we've lost our chance.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:20, Reply)

Nonsense
Sooner or later the memory will pop into your head and our conversation will go from flirty to awkward
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:22, Reply)

Hahaha
I'm looking forward for that to happen. See if my theory about good dancers = good lovers is true or not.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:25, Reply)

It is
100% of the dancers I've slept with back this theory up
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:34, Reply)

I haven't been dissapointed yet
good movements on the ball room, good movements on the bed room.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:40, Reply)

To much "al"
a bit like offtopic
(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:10, Reply)

zing

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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:10, Reply)

Ok, ok
but don't get upset next time I correct your spelling.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:11, Reply)

If you corrected it as wittily as I just did I would appreciate it.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:12, Reply)

But I can't
I'm not as witty as you. You made me cry :_(
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:16, Reply)

Come on Aber
That was a cracking comeback
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:12, Reply)

I know
I clicked "I like this" and everything. Just don't tell the psycho
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:16, Reply)

I fail to see what's so funny about it.

(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:18, Reply)

I love a lot of old films
Like www.imdb.com/title/tt0062803/ or www.imdb.com/title/tt0054594/

As said before, I love Metropolis and the Machinist. Then, I like some new movies, like Inception, yes; or Thor; Spiderman (grrr Toby!)
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:07, Reply)

Not sure
There's certainly a lot more movies from the last 20-30 years in my collection than older ones. That said my favourite movie of all time is It's a Wonderful Life.

*Edit* Old Disney films are better than the new ones.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:08, Reply)

No diggity
I had a worryingly fervent argument with my best mate's girlfriend the other day because she made the outrageous claim that Pocahontas was better than Bambi
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:10, Reply)

It was
None of them are good, but c'mon, Bambi is just awful, one of the worst films I've ever seen. Nothing happens on it. Nothing.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:12, Reply)

No, BAMBI

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:14, Reply)

Am I missing somthing?
Did they make a porn version of Bambi?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:17, Reply)

The suggestion that Bambi is shit is absurd
It has probably the most affecting death scene in all cinema
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:21, Reply)

No way
And in any case, apart from that, there's a whole film of nothingness. I think it's the only Disney movie that I didn't like.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:24, Reply)

*sharp intake of breath*
It's a good thing you're pretty
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:26, Reply)

RIGHT THATS IT!
You! Take my Sig right now you bum licky internet joyboy!
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:28, Reply)

Well
It's a good thing you're nice. You're the first person I know that liked Bambi.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:29, Reply)

You're the first person I know who didn't
We should definitely mate
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:32, Reply)

That's excuse number 127
But yeah, why not. Maybe in a few months, I don't feel very sexy right now.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:36, Reply)

You let me know when you're up to it

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:44, Reply)

I'd think
you'll have to wait at least around 7 months, maybe more.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:48, Reply)

OK!
*checks watch*
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:52, Reply)

The top 3 Disney films are....
Robin Hood
Jungle Book
Alice in Wonderland

In any order. Anyone who disagrees is a massive cunt so their opinion doesn't count.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:15, Reply)

Don't like Jungle Book much
but I love Snow White and The Lion King. And I like the music on The Little Mermaid.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:18, Reply)

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT
I FORGOT!!!

The best Disney movie ever is Hercules!
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:18, Reply)

Opinion doesn't count

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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:22, Reply)

I don't understand
You don't like Hercules?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:23, Reply)

Not what I said
Its not top 3 though. Because Robin Hood, Alice in Wonderland and The Jungle Book are the top 3.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:25, Reply)

My daughter claims Cinderella is the best Disney film
but she is only 3 so I could beat her in a fight easily if it came to it.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:26, Reply)

No
Because the Jungle Book is not top 3
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:27, Reply)

Opinion doesn't count,

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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:28, Reply)

it's ok, The Jungle Book is clearly top 3

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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:33, Reply)

Best songs, best characters, best script, best plot
No contest really.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:36, Reply)

I also agree that Robin Hood is top 3
and I'm not sure I've ever seen the Disney Alice in Wonderland, so I can't comment
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:38, Reply)

Smoke a large one, put it on and sit back and enjoy the ride

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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:51, Reply)

Me and my sister fucking loved Robin Hood when we were kids
We used to watch it all the time, I can probably still quote a lot of it despite not having seen it in fifteen years or so.

Bambi's better though. As is Beauty and the Beast.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:19, Reply)

Really?
You really like Bambi? But it's a film without argument. Nothing happens on it, afther the mother is dead. Awful thing.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:21, Reply)

Opinion doesn't count,

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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:23, Reply)

Robin Hood was the first Disney film I saw..
..and it's still my favourite. Followed by The Sword in the Stone and Lilo & Stitch
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Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:33, Reply)

2/3 of your opinion doesn't count
1/3 correct.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:35, Reply)

Bambi is the worst Disney film ever, and if you think it's better you really are a boring dull cunt.

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Lisette von Falcon, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:51, Reply)

I said something similar
but in a nicer way.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:52, Reply)

I'm glad you agree then.

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Lisette von Falcon, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:56, Reply)

~~loved Robin Hood~~
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:19, Reply)

I loved this one
www.disney.co.uk/tangled/

Honestly, I laughed a lot.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:11, Reply)

I see this about 10 times a week at the moment.
The kids love it. I must confess that the horse is cool
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:11, Reply)

I like the pan
It's the best!
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:13, Reply)

Everytime I see it I think
"Fuck, her hair must be filthy"
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:13, Reply)

She had nothing to do all day
but washing and brushing it. And it was magic too.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:18, Reply)

It looked heavy too

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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:24, Reply)

I bet it was
I would have hated having hair like that.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:28, Reply)

My daughter likes it though
so I won't ruin it for her.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:29, Reply)

At least
your daughter doesn't want to have hair like her.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:37, Reply)

A lot of new films are just CGI vehicles, yes
But even entirely CGI films of recent years have been IMHO classics. Films like Toy Story (1&2) are throughly entertaining, with a goos story and characters.

Avatar brought a whole new idea to it too, with the 3D, etc. I'm not saying it is a classic film as such, but in future years it will be harked back to.

Alt:
The assassin bird out of The Event. SPOING!
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:08, Reply)

Avatar is shit

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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:10, Reply)

I agree
but the filming of it was groundbreaking
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:11, Reply)

Groundbreakingly shit
Same as Citizen Cane
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:11, Reply)

Indeed

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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:12, Reply)

Birth of a Nation was shit too
Doesn't alter its position in cinematic history one jot
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:11, Reply)

Is that the silent film that makes the KKK out to be great?

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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:12, Reply)

That's the one
Enormously successful at the time
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:16, Reply)

Avatar was a shit film
I watched in 2D so I know.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:11, Reply)

I thought it was better in 2D
Tron has been the only worthwhile 3D film so far
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:13, Reply)

Fun fact kids!
I have never seen a 3D film. I think part of the art of film making involves creating depth on a flat surface. 3D films are cheating!
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:14, Reply)

it added something to Tron because of the nature of the film
I haven't enjoyed it on the other ones I've seen. If it looked like you were actually looking into a 3D scene then it'd be better, but even on Avatar it was like a series of layers distinct from one another.

Not for me
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:30, Reply)

Having been made to suffer through a lot of tat on the free movie channels
I can tell you that are some horrendously bad old films. There are also some incredibly good modern films.

I don't think I've added any to my top ten list in the last ten years, though.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:19, Reply)

LIST!
1. Rear Window
2...
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:20, Reply)

... Shaving Ryans Privates.

(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:22, Reply)

Films I would happily watch again and again
Rear Window - obviously
High Society
Breakfast Club
Back to the Future - all three
French Kiss
Star Trek First Contact
Singing in the Rain
Anastasia
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:27, Reply)

The Breakfast Club is a great film
I can't wait until I'm old enough to feel ways about stuff.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:30, Reply)

what?

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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:31, Reply)

It's a Futurama reference don't worry
Fry Says it when he finds The Breakfast Club soundtrack in his record vault
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:34, Reply)

Sorry
I'm obviously not one of the cool kids.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:35, Reply)

Well you can write the letter then
*strides across the football field, punches the air in freezeframe*
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Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:41, Reply)

Now that one I got.

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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:43, Reply)

I saw Simple Minds a few years back
and all I could think of was the Breakfast Club
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:49, Reply)

You didn't think about walking out in disgust?
Or brutally murdering any of them with a sledgehammer? This is worrying.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:54, Reply)

They were at a festival
And they opened with Don't you forget about me. So no I didn't murder any of them cos its a great song
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:56, Reply)

I can find no fault with this list
except French Kiss, which I haven't seen
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:30, Reply)

I'm a pathetic, hopeless romantic
and it's my favourite of Meg Ryan's films. And Kevin Kline makes a fantastic Frenchman. And it has Jean Reno in it.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:32, Reply)

When Harry Met Sally is the best Meg Ryan film
FACT!
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:33, Reply)

is there one where she is brutally murdered?
that would be the best one
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:37, Reply)

officelols

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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:48, Reply)

You are wrong.
That film had carrie Fisher in it.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:37, Reply)

Carrie Fisher has been in some classic movies
Three, by my count
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:42, Reply)

Yes
but she wasn't old in those three.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:44, Reply)

How on earth do you know which films I mean?!

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:47, Reply)

Because I know you.
you geeky fool, you.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:53, Reply)

Ah, yes
That you do.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:59, Reply)

I heard an amusing anecdote about the making of French Kiss, which as a linguist I'm confident you will enjoy
Meg Ryan apparently asked Kevin Kline to improve her French pronounciation, and obviously being Kevin Kline he's good at everything. She asked him how to correctly pronounce the French for "thank you very much", and he told her to enunciate the "l" at the end of the sentence.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:37, Reply)

pfft
I can imagine she probably did it too.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:39, Reply)

I love that you get this

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:43, Reply)

We share one in common
Back to the Future
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:34, Reply)

I've never watched Breakfast Club.

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Lisette von Falcon, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:47, Reply)

I usually don't like remakes
if an old film was good, there's no need to do it again.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:22, Reply)

^this, very much

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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:23, Reply)

Some remakes are better
Most are shit
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:24, Reply)

Sometimes the original concept was good
but poorly executed, possibly due to budget constraints. So a remake can improve on it.

But not very often. In fact I'm struggling to think of a remake that I preferred to the original.

Actually, the new Dawn of the Dead film was a better horror film than the original, though it lost the social commentary.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:24, Reply)

I was about to say "was it fuck"
but it's not a bad point actually. Setting aside how much scarier the remake is, because 1970s Zombies are just nowhere near as frightening on account of very obviously being extras covered in ketchup, both are probably equally effective in terms of the impact on the audience they were aimed at.

Good example of a cracking remake, I still think the original is a better movie though
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:29, Reply)

I don't watch
horror films, so I can't agree nor disagree.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:38, Reply)

Battlestar Galactica remake was better
TV series I know but it still counts!
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:27, Reply)

You are Darth Foxtrot AICMFP

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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:28, Reply)

You are absolutely, indisputably correct AICMFP

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:29, Reply)

I am always correct
I just finished Caprica. Its a shame that they rushed three seasons worth of plot in to the last 15 minutes. Otherwise I really enjoyed it.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:32, Reply)

That's sort of what they did with Jericho
a great series rushed at the end so we actually get to see how they wanted it to finish.

I am just at the beginning of season 3 of BSG, and am enjoying it very much indeed.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:34, Reply)

It's one of the best series i've watched
I think I liked it even more than The Wire
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:37, Reply)

The first time I went to Baltimore
we went on a sightseeing trip, and they showed us the precinct from that show. I've never seen it, though.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:40, Reply)

A lot of the extras were just people who lived in Baltimore that they liked the look of
Lisa Bullock for example. Oh and Felicia Pearson.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:43, Reply)

My friend's daughter was on set and has pictures with aome of the cast, I think.
I have to say, it's a beautiful town and I wouldn't mind living there.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:47, Reply)

ONLY SEEN HALF THE SERIES SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
Brilliant so far I must say
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:37, Reply)

Right, He's really a ghost, she's really a guy, its kevin spacy and darth vader is his dad.

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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:41, Reply)

You bastard
I suppose that's saved me 9 hours though
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:42, Reply)

Wow, that Rentaghost reboot sounds great.

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Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:01, Reply)

I haven't seen the remake yet but I doubt it's got a better theme tune

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Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:59, Reply)

John Carpenter's The Thing
fucking fantastic film and is a remake
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:31, Reply)

Yes, that's a brilliant example.

(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:35, Reply)

The Donald Sutherland Invasion Of The Bodysnatchers is fantastic
Very much of its time, much like the brilliant original. The Gabrielle Anwar one in the nineties and the recent one with Nicole Kidman were shit, however.
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Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:37, Reply)

Not necessarily the case
Seven Samurai is an amazing film, but so is the Magnificent Seven. The former is better but the remake is also brilliant.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:40, Reply)

Maybe one day me and you could make a movie? I think it would be quite good.

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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:29, Reply)

you are naughty.
Go to your room.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:30, Reply)

YES ! That's exactly how I want to start the movie.

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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:31, Reply)

Poor Gonz
You're about forty years too young for me.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:36, Reply)

Surely 40 is old enough
apart from that?
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:37, Reply)

I must be really thick today
because I didn't understand that either.
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:41, Reply)

I was being nasty and rude
and implying that Gonz was 40. And that you still wanted 40 years added on
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:43, Reply)

Alas, if only I was 20 years younger and you were 20 years older.... couldda had something, kiddo.

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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:40, Reply)

.... lol, yeah', a court case.

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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:40, Reply)

It would be worse than Plan 9 From Outer Space.

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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:31, Reply)

I'll see your Plan 9 From Outer Space
and raise you Moulin Rouge
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:38, Reply)

Never seen it.
Am I lucky or what!
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:40, Reply)

Worse than Manos: The Hands of Fate?

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Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:46, Reply)

Is Manos Heurelho Gomes' nickname?

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:48, Reply)

I love films from any decade but I can understand someone not being into old films
They'll have been tailored for a different target audience. A good story is a good story no matter what but sometimes the manner in which it is presented could be an obstacle to our enjoyment of it. blah blah blah mise-en-scene blah bordwell blah an article in cahiers du cinema blah

Diff'rent strokes for different folks, innit?

I think there can be a bit of 'kids with a new toy' excitement with CGI and 3D at the expense of plot and characters but I think they can both be valuable aids to filmmaking. The fanfare around 3D is dying down a bit now, I tend to baulk at the extra cost especially as there have been a lot of substandard post conversions put out.

Alt: Yvonne Strawhateveritisyoucallher from Chuck
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Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:28, Reply)

Strahovski
Would
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:30, Reply)

She's all yours

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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:38, Reply)

Fuck off, she's mine

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Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:40, Reply)

She reminds me of the missus

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:40, Reply)

I forgot about the Alt
My Wife 4 years ago.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:39, Reply)

Your wife was a celebrity 4 years ago?
Eeeww, are you married to Jade Goody?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:41, Reply)

He is piston_broke
AICMFP
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Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:42, Reply)

ouch!

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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:41, Reply)

I forgot about it too
It might be sad, but I think of Mark when I'm on my own... wishing he was there. He makes it much better.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:44, Reply)

True.
I'd rather fantasize about someone attainable than a actor etc.
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girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:46, Reply)

Specially
if he's good at it!
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:47, Reply)

This works if there is someone attainable

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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:47, Reply)

I sometimes fantasize about ex boyfriends rather than famous people.
It does the job.
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girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:49, Reply)

*Waves!*

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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:49, Reply)

I have difficulty remembering what you look like Jeff, so you're not really a good candidate.

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girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:51, Reply)

That is so sweet
I certainly don't think about mr b3th when he's not there ; )

I didn't answer the alt either, but then, there are so many cute men out there.... *sighs*
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b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:49, Reply)

Maybe
there's something wrong with my imagination. I like the way he does it, so can't think of anyone else.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:50, Reply)

I wonder if she thinks the same about you?

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girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:45, Reply)

Nopes
That's the problem!
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:46, Reply)

Well you've been having babies left right and centre so something is ticking your boxes.

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girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:47, Reply)

2 babies
both conceived in the first few days of trying.

Life can be so unfair.
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Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:55, Reply)

lololol more like ticking HER box

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Lisette von Falcon, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:56, Reply)

haha! *nudge nudge wink wink*

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girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:00, Reply)

I think the oldest film I've watched was Mommy Dearest.
I don't really have an interest in older films, I try to watch them but then I get bored.

alt: don't have one currently.
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Lisette von Falcon, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:43, Reply)

Not connected to the thread
but reading the thread about the slut-walk has made me depressed for humanity
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:56, Reply)

Humanity
or just that portion which posts here?
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:05, Reply)

The number of people
who actually thought that depressing provocatively was 'asking for it' somehow was bleak.
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:06, Reply)

Personally I found it depressing that people keep arguing
that dressing that way is a contributory factor, but then said "but it doesn't mean they deserve to be raped".
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:12, Reply)

That was what got me
women are raped regardless of what they are wearing. A man who takes rohypnol with him to a club or a pub has rape on his mind, it isn't put there by seeing someone with a low cut top.
We don't tell people it's their fault that they're burgled because their house has too many nice things, or they deserved to be mugged because they were asking for it by owning phone.
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:17, Reply)

We're not going to make it, are we

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Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:05, Reply)

The more I think about it
no, we're probably not.
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:07, Reply)

It's in your nature to destroy yourselves

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Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:10, Reply)

I didn't read the whole thread, but I think dressing like a skank and walking around doesn't prove anything or empower anyone.
The guy was a dick, use your words, make signs, petitions, banners.
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Lisette von Falcon, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:08, Reply)

I don't think the slut-walk was an especially good idea
but it's being done to prove a very valid point. No means no, whether you're wearing a skirt that shows off your arse, or a bra instead of a top. It's derogatory to men as well as women
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:10, Reply)

Actually I think it's a very good idea
as it's actually prompted the debate, if they had just had a march then it wouldn't have got that much attention.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:13, Reply)

I didn't think it was a good idea
not because I disagreed with the concept, but because seeing me wobbling along would've invalidated the point
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:14, Reply)

Most of the women on the march
weren't actually dressed "sluttily" though.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:17, Reply)

A couple of friends went on it
but that's all I know. Haven't been reading the papers recently
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:19, Reply)

You know. They have a point.
Plenty of men walk around topless but you don't see them getting raped, do you?
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Lisette von Falcon, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:20, Reply)

I see your point.

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Lisette von Falcon, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:15, Reply)

Sorry
*does up flies*
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:17, Reply)

Someone start a new thread
Preferably about breasts
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:05, Reply)

Your mums got tit cancer

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Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:06, Reply)

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