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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Question from a young whippersnapper.
I was bored earlier and watched the Live Forever documentary about the rise and fall of Britpop. If anything it confirmed my pure and utter hatred of Oasis, but alas I shall continue. Don't get me wrong, 95% of the music during that era was pony. I'm sure everyone looking back thinks the same.
But what I'd like to know from any old farts is, was it as exciting/good at the time as is made out? I think I would have rather enjoyed myself if I was my age now in 1994.

Alt: What time period do you think you'd have had a blast in?
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 21:57, 292 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
I had a right good time throughout Britpop.
I had plenty of money, I was single and liked the music, I was right into it.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 21:58, Reply)
It was of the moment as is much music

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:01, Reply)
I know for every Pulp there was five Menswear's.
But the 90s looked like a hell of a lot of fun. Was everyone getting off their tits all the time as much as it looked like they were?
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:02, Reply)
They were for me.
I had a blast.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:03, Reply)
I don't know why I'm talking about it.
It's depressing there's nothing similar going on now.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:04, Reply)
Thing is, at the end of every decade, people say , 'Well fuck all happened musically'
At the end of the 80s, people were saying 'But we had Glam in the 70s and Rock in the 60s' - but by the time the 90s came round, the realised they'd 'enjoyed' a decade of pop-music.

Things are more diluted now, you've got more choice. The 90s included BritPop, along with loads of other things. the 00s more so.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:06, Reply)
There was a three hour music retrospective on new years eve 1989
that went over the eighties as an era. It was bloody excellent. Apart from the SAW stuff, obviously.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:09, Reply)
I remember seeing it.
I'm fairly sure both the best and worst band (based on a poll of votes) was The Smiths.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:13, Reply)
I think I taped it.
Alas, the tape is no longer around.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:14, Reply)
I've probably got it on a tape somewhere.
But nothing to play it on.

I'm pretty sure there is an episode of The Saint and Greavsie recored after it.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:17, Reply)
perhaps there is, but you haven't found it
or you've not codified it in narrative and fluffy nostalgia yet
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:06, Reply)
It was a time of 'good' pop music.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=af_jSfsKLSI&ob=av2e
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:04, Reply)
OMG
*goth dances*

(i realise it's not goth, it was just what we did in those days...there was also a weird mix with folk music round here, too)
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:05, Reply)
it sounds weird without the distortion on the speakers :)

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:07, Reply)
more links!
90s indie youtube disco!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSD11dnphg0&ob=av2n
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:14, Reply)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSD11dnphg0&ob=av2n
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:19, Reply)
YEAH!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-mLIdLZZeI
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:23, Reply)
*poggos*

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:24, Reply)
eh?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=csqAgBWtfmU
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:23, Reply)
*floaty dances*

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:25, Reply)
i guess it depends where you were
round here it was ace. There was only a smallish alternative scene so everyone went to the same club - goths, metallers, indie kids. I used to go there 2 or 3 times a week. It was ace, if you saw someone in the street wearing black jeans and a band t-shirt you nodded acknowledgement as you'd probably met them in the club before.

man, I;ve gone all nostalgic and melancholy. Sucess does not suit me
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:04, Reply)
*nods in acknowledgement*

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:08, Reply)
:)

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:12, Reply)
I was more into grunge

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:02, Reply)
there was some great stuff at the start of britpop
but by the time it got famous is started pumping out identikit nonsense.

1996 was the year I liked the most. 2nd and 3rd year uni. I remember being sad when it ended. 1997 was less good, but not much less.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:01, Reply)
Late seventies / early eighties.
For the whole punk / new wave / goth thing. I was around then, I just wasn't old enough to appreciate it by going to gigs.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:03, Reply)
I'd have killed to have seen the classic Sisters of Mercy line up, for example.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:07, Reply)
1994 was great, but it had nothing to do with britpop, it was all about the raves man
In particular clubs around Liverpool Stoke and Manchester. You can stick suede and shed 7 up your arse
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:05, Reply)
lol forgot about the fridge and social in london lol

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:05, Reply)
Yeah but it was a given that was all absolutely ace.
No need to talk about it because it looks like it was class and I doubt anyone would disagree.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:06, Reply)
I did my fair share of 90s raves as well Rory.
Helter-skelter, DreamScape, Fantazia and god only knows how many illegals inbetween. Times were good.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:10, Reply)
HARDCORE MASSIVE

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:12, Reply)
JUNGLISM

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:12, Reply)
Some of the best raves used to go on for days down obscure woods, is that what kids do these days?

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:13, Reply)
We still get free parties in Bristol.
The old bill are powerless to do anything about it, on the basis that there are way more 'revellers' than there are available plod.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:15, Reply)
i went to one in swansea once
we got there too early, they were setting things up. We hung around a bit then we went home because my friend's foot hurt.

I am not very cool
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:16, Reply)
I wouldn't fancy it these days boxed for several days on Massive Drugs wandering round woods and shit
then again
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:17, Reply)
We used to go all over the country to these things.
Had some cracking nights at times.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:18, Reply)
If I bother again it'll have to be some terribly middle class festival with proper beds and shit

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:24, Reply)
This provides hours of endless fun
www.ravegenerator.com/
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:16, Reply)
The cat just went mad for that.
Came running over. The cheesy fucking quaver.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:21, Reply)
Here's the link for the doc if anyone's interested.
It's pretty good: www.youtube.com/watch?v=n30JkESJfSQ
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:05, Reply)
Cheers Barry, I'll give it a watch tomorrow.
(Unless Lousie from 'Sleeper' calls and wants to suck me off instead).
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:10, Reply)
She features in it a fair bit.
I found myself getting all flustered and mumbling 'oh my...' whenever she came on, she was a reet fox back then.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:17, Reply)
I don't want to know if she had aged in the slighted.
She was stunning.

And, on that note. I'm going to bed.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:19, Reply)
*plays the burp song to make people leave*

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:20, Reply)
I liked but I was a spaz.
All those foppy geeky people and mock-feisty birds, well it suited my fantasy world down to the ground.
And I was a size 6.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:16, Reply)
It was the time of the 'geezer bird' was it not?

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:20, Reply)
That's why she liked it cos Roota looks like a bloke.
*fucking legs it*
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:21, Reply)
That's why your mum is always trying to hump my leg.
I remind her of Wolf.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:24, Reply)
She's an animal my old dear.
Explains why she loves Wolf so much to be fair. Geddit? Animal? Wolf? Don't worry, I'm going.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:29, Reply)
Shit phone.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:36, Reply)
Yes it was.
I bought Loaded,drank pints and dressed occasionally like kd lang but mostly like a skinny indie slag.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:23, Reply)
I'm talking about 1996 here aren't I.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:35, Reply)
you must be
no-one buys Loaded anymore.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:40, Reply)
I'm 31
So at that point I was 14/ 15. I love Primal Scream, Teenage Fanclub, Pulp, Portishead, Tricky, all the Mo Wax stuff that was around then and drum n bass. Later on there was Ladies & Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space which was fucking superb. Primal Scream's best album by a country mile is Vanishing Point.

I came from being a metal fan into it all- I always thought Blur were utter poncy shite and I still do. Oasis did a couple of great songs, though I can only think of one- Slide Away.

American bands at that time were great too- Slint, Pavement, Dinosaur Jnr, Beastie Boys, Breeders...

The mid-late 90s was a fantastic period for music.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:33, Reply)
Blur are beyond ace and made infinitely better music than the dad rock shite Oasis came up with.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:38, Reply)
this^^
although I'm marginally less enthusiastic about blur
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:39, Reply)
Blur are beyond shite and are middle class art school wankers pretending to be working class.
About as convincing as Dick Van fucking Dyke. Albarn and James are prize cunts as well.

Oasis did one good song. Blur did poncy fakery for cuntstains in tight adidas t shirts.

YOU WEREN'T THERE MAN.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:40, Reply)
A lot of their songs were unashamedly middle class.
So nuuur and go listen to Modern Life is Rubbish.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:52, Reply)
No.
Blur are grade A wank. Utter benditry. Worse than Bellend Sebastian.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:56, Reply)
Musical taste is a very personal thing, but I do think they have a varied enough back-catalogue not to be put into one musical box

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:58, Reply)
Genre tourists
When they ripped off Pavement and Spiritualized it was fucking cringey. That Tender song was a direct ripoff of Spiritualized.

Utter toss. Genre tourists and patronising "let's play at being working class! Let's go dahn the dogs, innit?" wankers.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:00, Reply)
Modern Life is Rubbish was before that

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:03, Reply)
I am well aware of the chronology of Blur records.
Just drawing attention to their genre tourism and how fucking awful it was when they dabbled in lo fi and, well, trying to sound like Spiritualized. You have to remember just how fucking immense Spiritualized were back then, and only then will you realise that Tender is to Ladies & Gentlemen...what the Gobots were to Transformers.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:07, Reply)
Spiritualized depressed me.
Isn't the world a wonderful and varied place.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:09, Reply)
Stop saying genre tourist, you sound like Mariella Frostrup you boring auld bastard.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:09, Reply)
Ha!
Then again, I love Primal Scream. They are not genre tourists, they have reinvented themselves on the cutting edge at every point. Up until XTRMNTR. Slow decline since then.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:13, Reply)
Again, they depress me.
Seems to drone on. Apart from that one where the bird goes on a bender in the video, and someone smashed a bottle on her head and she laughs.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:14, Reply)
Primal Scream drone on?
Loaded is depressing? Kowalski drones on? Kill All Hippies is dull?

Well well.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:16, Reply)
Loaded lasts for a month and at some point they poke Bobby and he does summat.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:22, Reply)
Andy Weatherall prodded him with a snooker cue, at which point he woke up from his dream, impersonating Robert Johnson and he sang a bit of Terraplane Blues.
TRUE STORY.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:27, Reply)
Thanks daddio

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:37, Reply)
That snooker cue was handed to Chairman Weatherall by me, aged 9.
TRUE STORY, FACT FANS.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:42, Reply)
So how do you change direction musically without being a 'genre tourist'?

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:14, Reply)
When you are good at the genres.
Blur doing Pavement in the Stars in Their Eyes style was just a fucking travesty.

What the fuck was that idiotic WOO HOO thing anyway?

Quenders.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:15, Reply)
That song was actually a piss take.
I think they're as bemused as everyone else as to how it got so popular.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:21, Reply)
People have influences. It's not always a direct impersonation.
Your're picking the Blur stuff I like the least anyway so I'm not arsed. I could ask you what you thought of a particular song they did which depicted middle-class life, was before their 'lo-fi' thing, didn't impersonate Holy bleeding Spiritualized or Pavement and you'd still go "YES IT'S PRETENDING TO BE WORKING CLASS AND IT'S AN AFFRONT, YES AN AFFRONT, TO STEVEN MALKMUS. GENRE TOURISM AT ITS WORST".
I hate Damon Albarn but I think you're tarring all of their music with the same well-researsed brush that you appear to have drilled into your brain. Which is fine. If James Blunt releasd something amazing tomorrow, I would still call him a cunt and say it was shit. I guess we all do that.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:21, Reply)
I have a lot of time for Graham Coxon.
I always felt sorry for him having to pimp out his skills for the latest sub-Charlatans/ sub-Kinks/ sub-Pavement/ sub-Spiritualized guff that poshboy Albarn dreamed up becuase it's a frightful fucking wheeze old boy.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:26, Reply)
I love Graham Coxon.
I love the way he messes about with a guitar.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:27, Reply)
Alex James is the one for me.
Only because he did EXACTLY what I'd do if I was in a famous band.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:29, Reply)
make cheese
?
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:30, Reply)
Act like a cunt and tit about?

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:31, Reply)
You are correct sir.
Anyone who wouldn't do what he did in his position is a woofter. A boring woofter not worth knowing.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:33, Reply)
Didn't he fuck a qotwer?
What was he thinking man
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:34, Reply)
If I was in a famous band I'd probably do a Bobby Gillespie and 'go shit' during the heroin years.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:37, Reply)
I'm siding with you on this Roots

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:02, Reply)
Even I, as a horrendous musical snob, have a bit of time for Blur
I have to hand it to them, they turned out a few good songs, particularly after they stopped hamming it up with their entirely unconvincing Essex-wide-boy act.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:03, Reply)
I can out music snob you.
I am yet to out-snob Mr Boyce in the music stakes though.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:08, Reply)
Who cares tho, init?
They made great music and changed their direction with each album. Ignore Parklife as that was pretty shit, though.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:00, Reply)
Some of the album tracks on Parklife are ace.
Trouble in the Message Centre.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:06, Reply)
ah Pavement
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj6QilYg5VA&feature=related
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:40, Reply)
Indeed.
One of my favourite songs of all time is Range Life.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQHstA0cZDw
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:41, Reply)
that deserves an award just for dissing the Smashing Pumpkins

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:42, Reply)
Such a sad song.
I was obsessed with it when it was out in 94. I then fell back in love with it when Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain was rereleased recently.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:44, Reply)
i love pumpkins
i had the best t-shirt ever, a tye-dye melancholy long sleeved one. Had to get rid of it when it got too soaked in developer from hours inthe darkroom :(
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:48, Reply)
Overrated tae fuck.
I am so 90s I just put this tune on

www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Ek05cfx08&feature=fvst
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:51, Reply)
ha!
I had that on a compilation, along with this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VktWNq2ver8
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:57, Reply)
they have some good songs
but Corgan's voice really grates on me after a few tracks.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:52, Reply)
As a white male under 30, would you have had curtains or a flat-top in 1994?

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:44, Reply)
Curtains.
I have photos to prove it.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:44, Reply)
Most of the popular music was wank
As it always is, but there was some good metal going on I was mostly liking Sepultura, Pantera, Metalica and the like, and living in combats and band t-shirts. There was a decent metal scene in Croydon, and I had long hair and enjoyed waving it about at speed. It occurred to my yesterday that this may be why I am not a clever as I remember being. *sadface*

If I had my choice I'd have been around for one of the eras when people thought music really mattered and could make a difference, so either the 60's for hippy rock or the late 70's and early 80's for punk. I think the inevitable disintegration of either you have been very hard for me though.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:45, Reply)
I loved Pantera and Sepultura too.
Always thought Metallica were squirrel haired benders though.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:46, Reply)
They became benders,
but the first 3 albums man... in fact come to think of it they peaaked with Kill 'Em All and it was down hill from there. *fire up you tube and find's Motorbreath*

*withs he still had hair*
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:51, Reply)
I'd live in a perpetual cloud of 60s
well, the idealised version. With internet added.

All this talk of the 90s though is making me feel old and nostalgic

oh...metalica? overrated

*ducks*
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:47, Reply)
Squirrel haired benders.
Not as bent as their fans though.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:48, Reply)
they were always cockends, but the music used to be good.
See also: Slayer
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:52, Reply)
I still love Slayer.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:55, Reply)
I still love their music
This does not extend to the band members of their political views.

I still like all the stuff I did, just not all of the same band's more recent stuff. Refuse /resist sill gives my goosebumps when I here the opening drums,
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:58, Reply)
LEFTY NAZI!
Fuck off back to Stormfront
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:59, Reply)
Yes dear.
Is that not more your speed? I'd be more Socialistworker.com
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:01, Reply)
You and Bella should be making sweet sweet love

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:04, Reply)
Srs though, she banged AA not once but SEVERAL times, and he only pretended to be a communist for a week

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:06, Reply)
If you do have more commitment to the red flag she'd deffo sit on your face

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:07, Reply)
*sings*
The people's flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead,
And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their hearts' blood dyed its ev'ry fold.

Then raise the scarlet standard high.
Within its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.

Fair brings a lump to me throat.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:12, Reply)
two problems
1) she's not on here any-more
2) I've read her blog, she's too right-on even for me. A commie I maybe, I make a bed feminist.

Other than that I have no problems with your suggestion.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:09, Reply)
lolz at the term 'bed feminist'.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:11, Reply)
I'll totally bed a femeinist
Always thought Germane Greer looked filthy.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:14, Reply)
i find her version of feminism
a bit...teenage...like she's just read a book about it. Man, I'm old
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:12, Reply)
I gave up after having to google "cis"
if you care: www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cis
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:13, Reply)
eh - so she's read a bit of post-feminism, too
I'd like to see how she does on feminist sci fi and cyborg feminism

actually I can't remember much of this, it was a chunk of my MA, though
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:14, Reply)
*fears*
*covers balls*
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:16, Reply)
it's more 'difference' theory nowadays
than kicking boys in the balls
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:18, Reply)
*fears long words*
*continues to protect balls* I don't trust feminists, they are tricksy.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:21, Reply)
don't be scared. The last line of my thesis was
"A side salad of humour with your cultural theories, madam? Yes please, and with a vinaigrette of fantasy, if I may."

I took it all VERY seriously.

neat vodka is very strong, even when it's vanilla flavour, that's what I learnt this evning
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:23, Reply)
more long words
I don't like my gender politics complicated beyond necessity. I find "lets just treat each other like human being and play nice" about covers it.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:26, Reply)
vinaigrette has nothing to do with gender politics

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:26, Reply)
Not yours maybe.
sounds kinky to me.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:28, Reply)
depends how you like your
salad tossed
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:29, Reply)
And I am the creepy one?
Eugh!
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:35, Reply)
I got told I was nice earlier
so I'm working on my image
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:37, Reply)
Well done.
It's working. who told you you were nice. Over there
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:42, Reply)
It's Latin for "adjacent", likewise "trans" is Latin for "opposite".
Mind you I found that out from chemistry, not gender politics.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:15, Reply)
yes, but to need to have a word for beeing born into the right gendered body...
sheesh.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:16, Reply)
no way Crunchy
she's there, on the front line every day enduring the humiliation of having customers stare at her tits. That's deserving of an Iron Cross for feminist martyrdom.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:17, Reply)
3) she has no sense of sarcasm or irony, so she is at once incredibly annoying and a rich source of amusement.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:13, Reply)
It's the only blog I read, and for all the wrong reasons
fortyshadesofgrey.blogspot.com/
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:16, Reply)
I can't read it.
Every time I try I can imagine the words being read out in that plummy voice and I just want it to stop.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:24, Reply)
I dread to think what the pillow talk is like with her, that's before the shriek of terror when her latest victim wakes the following day

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:14, Reply)
"ALL SEX IS RAPE GET OUT OF MY HOUSE YOU OPPRESSOR YOU!"

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:16, Reply)
"Alright Bella, could I have cuppa before I go?"
"Fuck patriarchy. Fuck rape culture. Fuck victim blaming, fuck slut shaming, fuck any bastard that would choose a clump of fucking cells over the life of the woman that hosts it. Fuck body fascism. Fuck lads mags. Fuck womens mags. Fuck objectification. Fuck saying a woman is empowered because you give her money to conform to your misogynistic ideals. Fuck binary gender norms. Fuck not citing your sources and churnalising some bullshit pseudoscience that landed on your desk. Fuck all pseudoscience. Fuck homeopathy, fuck acupuncture, acupressure, acu-whatthefuckingever. Fuck anything not proven by re-testable science. That includes God, you small-minded fucks. Fuck anyone who would use an imaginary sky pixie to push their bigoted, money-grasping agenda. Fuck economic libertarians, the selfish cuntpricks. Fuck EU sceptics, fuck climate change sceptics. Fuck James fucking Delingpole and every lie he's ever published. Fuck Littlejohn, the fat prick, railing against how bad it is in the UK from his mansion in fucking Florida. Fuck Melanie Philips, the delusional bitch. Fuck Philip Davies, the rent-a-gobshite. And fuck Nadine fucking Dorries, the evidence-denying, lying fucking shitwhore. And Frank Fields. Who thinks women are too stupid to choose but bright enough to raise kids. Fuck Eric Pickles. Fuck Theresa May. Fuck the police, fuck the riot squad, fuck the TSG, the violent twathounds. Fuck the CPS. Fuck the courts. Fuck the prison system. You think it works? Meet evidence. Fuck ATOS. Fuck anyone who would punish the worthy sick for the greedy well. Fuck racists, the fucking chodes. Fuck war for oil. Fuck the war on terror, fuck the war on drugs. Fuck The Big Questions. Fuck Question Time. Fuck Prime Ministers cocking Questions. Fuck giving my time to right-wing reactionary fucknuts. Fuck Moral Maze. There ain't nothing moral. Either you're a weeping dickshit or you're not. Fuck those who piss about the 'nanny state' because they're too fucking thick to have grasped metric in over 40 fucking years. Fuck those who think the ECHR is part of the EU. Fuck those who think that having your bins collected once a week is more important than foreign aid. Fuck people who want to take away minimum wage. Fuck the bastards exploiting the situation the banks gave us and calling the unemployed lazy when there's five unemployed to every job vacancy. Fuck unpaid internships. Fuck gap years. Fuck mummy and daddy paying for you to climb the corporate ladder. Fuck you bastarding fuckers who make my head want to explode every time I remember every shitty thing you've ever done."
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:18, Reply)
"Errr your alright pet, just leave it ta"

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:19, Reply)
Well, yes but then I agree with 80% of that
maybe more.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:22, Reply)
Have a good cup of tea, eight hours sleep, and you should feel all better in the morning

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:28, Reply)
I'm tempted to find the bit's I don't agree with in that
but it's late. Do you ever come to bashs? I reckon a drunken discussion of politics with you might be fun.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:35, Reply)
BGB won't let him

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:36, Reply)
i rekon it'd get all intense and end with you two snogging
while the rest of us looked on shocked
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:36, Reply)
you're projecting again

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:37, Reply)
she could be right
I do odd things when drunk. Why won't BGB lets my Rorykins come?
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:39, Reply)
She really hates my guts
and turns everyone against me :(
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:41, Reply)
And you so sweet and innocent and well liked otherwise.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:43, Reply)
I cannae stand you.
You massive internet cunt.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:43, Reply)
That's all a little ironic coming from someone with a law degree from a particularly posh university.
It's like a bishop preaching against religion.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:28, Reply)
Hippy!
this is the thing think I'll have to go with Punk, coz hippies smell.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:54, Reply)
I think punks smelt too, only more of man sweat

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:55, Reply)
Point
But still, I reckon punk would be more fun. Hippy's like mliving in a nice cottage in the country, you think it's fun for the first week, then you'd get bored.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:03, Reply)
only old ones
I'd be off having freak outs and shit. Admitedly I prefer something noisier to dance to
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:05, Reply)
There was some decent rock
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:10, Reply)
Or you could combine the two.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEZA0Cm4aw0
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:11, Reply)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRBOmli-Fwg
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:56, Reply)
Fuck that shit, fuck it right in the ear.
On a 90s DnB tip, I have Brown Paper Bag on and going to listen to Inner City Life next. Then Valley of the Shadows.

Proper DnB. Cocks that like Bendulum can fuck right off.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 22:59, Reply)
DnB was never my thing
I'm indie discoing up to the max
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:01, Reply)
Loser.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:04, Reply)
Ive never been anything else

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:04, Reply)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCAy9ErdKY
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:05, Reply)
oh, yes
fankoo
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:06, Reply)
I saw Beck do this live in Paris in 1995
same gig as Foo Fighters on their first tour

/only rock and roll tale
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:07, Reply)
I saw Suggs outside a pub once

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:09, Reply)
I saw him walking up my driveway.
First sign of madness.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:10, Reply)
I once brushed past Chris De Burgh
to get to the photocopier
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:24, Reply)
For the briefest of moments, were you cheek to cheek?

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:28, Reply)
not a hope
he's tiny and I'm offensively tall, cheek to elbow more like.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:33, Reply)
DENIED.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:36, Reply)
dude....
She's on here, as are we, not only is that stating the bleedin obvious, it glasshouse territory.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:05, Reply)
Is that Chompy's band?
Looks like Chompy.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:03, Reply)
Late 80s/early 90s for the rave thing.
Not sure I'd like having a mullet/honky afro, wearing awful tacky clothes and being jobless though.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:00, Reply)
WHEN I RAISE MY TRIGGER FINGER!

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:10, Reply)
That's still a tune

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:20, Reply)
Indeed it surely is.
I just posted the fucker on facecock.

EDIT: As is this, the fucking drop on this record man, when you're rushing your tits off. Immense. www.youtube.com/watch?v=FktF9pOqAjU&feature=related
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:20, Reply)
I never really liked that follow up, fact fans

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:30, Reply)
Oh Rory, I do apologise.
Doc Scott? www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iSyT7h24cY

Dilinja? www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij2GVjuXrxM

Angels Fell is some serious soundbwoy biznizz.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:35, Reply)
Yeah, Doc Scott I like. Metalheadz did a day or two at the Phoenix in 96 (see below) where me and the Don were total festival buddies

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:38, Reply)
Metalheadz were superb. Still are I think.
Goldie just did a comp for fabric, starts out a bit weak but soon gets going.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:40, Reply)
well if we are doing dance music
this is as far as I go:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbPSYuHAdTg

if you look very carefully, way, way back in the crowd you can see me deciding maybe Prodigy were not shit after all.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:31, Reply)
You can see me there too !!!!!!

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:36, Reply)
Were you my girlfriend at the time?
If so, fuck you bitch, you can carry your own tent.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:37, Reply)
lol I was midway up the front, they did the dance tent the next day, it was awful, nobody could move

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:39, Reply)
I totally failed to get laid at that festival
this and being surprised to like prodigy is about all I remember.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:41, Reply)
I saw someone shit into a crisp packet

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:43, Reply)
Oh yeah and I watched about 2 minutes of the sex pistols reunion

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:44, Reply)
Other notable exceptions were Senser, Cooler, Massive Attack, Cyress Hill, William Orbit, Spooky

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:45, Reply)
Ahh, yes I remember that
It wasn't bad, enjoyed the crowd chanting "bring back Sid" way past the point johnny got pissed off with it.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:46, Reply)
did they then throw it at the stage?

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:44, Reply)
No

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:46, Reply)
did they blow into it and then
get their mate to pop it so it went bang and shit went everywhere?
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:47, Reply)
It was just some dirty bastard I was camping with who decided that shitting into a crisp packet was a sensible thing to do, soz, perhaps I built it up into something it wasn't

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:49, Reply)
my friend's girlfriend shat in a bag and left it in their tent at glastonbury
he found it the day after me and him had nearly caught hyperthermia.

She wrote one of the dr who tie-in novels. It's not in the author bio
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:50, Reply)
that must have been quite tricky to pull off

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:45, Reply)
Why do you think I can remember this great feat some fifteen years later

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:47, Reply)
Northern Ireland in the 80's BOOM
'sup bitches.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:17, Reply)
Aight G
Yo bad self me main nilla.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:20, Reply)
Dear God,
you are so fucking white. In fact as a porridge wog you are likely pale blue.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:23, Reply)
I'm Scottish and I am indeed blue.
In the sun I turn red, then go back to blue again afterwards.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:29, Reply)
yeah, me too.
Scotch genes y'see, technically entitled to wear tartan and shit, but I reckon that'd be taking the piss as I've not been further north than The Lake District
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:33, Reply)
New Fast Automatic Dafodills
Were easily the best and most underrated band to emerge from the early 90's indie explosion.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:35, Reply)
Noel said I was the opposite of Rory

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:44, Reply)
so nice but occasionally not funny?
He could have a point.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:45, Reply)
woah! I think you just accidentally
complemented me!
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:46, Reply)
I think I just accidentally complimented Rory
It also makse Rory pretty cool this here opposites thing.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:48, Reply)
damnit!

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:49, Reply)
Are you pished?
you're sounding it up there^
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:52, Reply)
up where?
I'm a little bit, I didn't know how to deal with successness so I got some vanilla vodka. I haven't had much but it's screwing with my brain
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:53, Reply)
Talking about catching hypothermia
it's a bit disjointed. also, look down there, You've pulled.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:55, Reply)
it's a true story, though
in my head it's a narrative.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:56, Reply)
in <i>your</i> head maybe.

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:58, Reply)
it's post-modern

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:59, Reply)
I can see Rory must have a real talent for stories.

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:06, Reply)
you suck!

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:09, Reply)
Around the time of britpop I was doing my a-levels.
I was always about three steps to the side and one back from any current music scene (until I got into house music and followed djs like Alistair Whitehead, Graeme Park and John Digweed around clubs in the midlands). I usually had the greatest hits of various early eighties bands in my walkman.

The one album that does define that time for me though is Parklife. It was one of those albums that got passed around and played at loads of parties and in the common room so it always takes me back to that time. There are some great tracks on there that hold up for me outside of the nostalgic context.

Alt: Any time that involved wenches, good helmets/wigs and quaffing
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:47, Reply)
I know that place!

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:48, Reply)
Take me home, Cappy!

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:51, Reply)
I'm afraid you must leave dignity
and civilised society behind. Bring mead
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:54, Reply)
They sell Mead In borough Market
I found it at the weekend, they want £9 a bottle the thieving toe-rags, but it is my favourite brand so will buy it when I get desperate.
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:57, Reply)
Moniak?
that's the going rate for it nowadays
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:58, Reply)
Nope
this stuff www.bestcellars.co.uk/files/533703_DSC0066.jpg goes for £7.50 in Dorcet
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:01, Reply)
is it a dry one?
it looks a similar colour to Moniak
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:02, Reply)
Not sure
not good with wine lingo, I'd say sweet, calls it a desert wine on the website.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:05, Reply)
probably like the christmas ones they do round here
the dry ones are more the kind of thing you can drink lots of. It's got enough sugar in it to make everything hilarious, though.

I have never seen my parents drunk but at my wedding my dad slurred "..thish mead shtuff ish quite schtrong" and got mixed up between my mum and her twin sister.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:07, Reply)
Or so he says...

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:08, Reply)
*shudder*

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:09, Reply)
"I short I wash sheeing double"
"Sho I groped bosh of you jusht to be shure honesht!"
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:12, Reply)
if you'd met my mum and her sister
right now you would be trying to pour bleach into your ear so you never had to think again
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:14, Reply)
Luckily I haven't
but you have.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:15, Reply)
:(

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:16, Reply)
Your so lucky
in line with my resolution I totally ninjaed most of that post out of existence about a second after I posted it.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:17, Reply)
I would have been forced to link you to pictures
of them on facebook. You'd never sleep again
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:18, Reply)
Again. I must refrain from commenting further.
so I shall just say I am sure they are both lovely ladies and I wish them only the best.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:20, Reply)
I think you've pulled
Quick, before he come to his senses!
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:54, Reply)
*bundles clay into van*

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:55, Reply)
Don't for get the chloroform

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:56, Reply)
delicious

(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:57, Reply)
Hey, I didn't agree to help you with your sofa
*puts the lotion on his skin*
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:58, Reply)
It puts the mead on it's skin or it gets the hose again.
Edit: Sneaky ninja, or am I going blind?
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:59, Reply)
I don't like where this is heading
Edit: Yes, sneaky ninja seconds after posting
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:00, Reply)
how have I never licked mead off a naked man?
surely this would happen just by accident at some point
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:00, Reply)
+ honest m'lud

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:02, Reply)
Run Bill
I'll distract her with something shiney
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:11, Reply)
*heads for the hills*
.
..
...
*gets out of breath*
...
..
.
*heads for a gastropub*
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:14, Reply)
gonna have to use some leet tracking skilllz here

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:15, Reply)
*waves shiny thing*

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:16, Reply)
oooo shiny!

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:18, Reply)
*throws shiny the opposite way from Bill*
Run man, you can make it.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:18, Reply)
*hypnotised by shiny*

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:22, Reply)
*hypnotised by shiny*
Goddammit!
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:30, Reply)
haha

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:32, Reply)
Oh Cavey
you've never lived.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:07, Reply)
I no rite!
I did once give a guy a pretend gold coin to chew the hangnail that had been bugging me. That's not the same
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:08, Reply)
Again, they call me the creepy one?
Jeez cavey.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:10, Reply)
it was just expedient

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:11, Reply)
Paying men for odd favours
Damn you are doing Rory's rep the world of good. I think you get it from your dad.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:13, Reply)
I should do more of that shit
I need to get in some trouble this summer. I'm getting old and boring
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:23, Reply)
you can join me and BGB
and probably a few others but I forget who, in the Mid-life Crisis Club. we'll all get ill-advised tattoos and silly haircuts band generally tit about.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:26, Reply)
booked in for a tattoo at 3pm tomorrow
or today as it's after midnight
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:27, Reply)
and with that thought, it's time for bed.

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:29, Reply)
it's not boobs

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:29, Reply)
I meant it being after midnight
but it totally should be. Congrats on the job my friend, you earned it, not get some sleep.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:31, Reply)
thank you
for once I will admit, I probably did deserve this. Fucking scary now though

night
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:32, Reply)
First day at school is always scary
..but getting there in the first place is awesome. well done.

I was facing redundancy about four months back but managed to get a better payed job closer to home after the first interview I hooked. Prior to that it was the scariest time in my life thus far, the thought of not being able to provide for my wife and kids and keep a roof over our heads was terrifying.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:36, Reply)
ah, I'm just being a dumbass
I've been doing the job for a year and a half, I'm more scared because it's the thing I want and I'm not used to that happening. I have no idea how to deal with it. Also first full time permanent job in 10 years - there's no quick get out here.

as I said, I'm being a twat about it, it's awesome really
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:38, Reply)
anyway
wah wah wah. I should sleep now
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:42, Reply)
Proper fucking techno. Panel beating stuff.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D_eGPEgh8M
(, Wed 27 Jul 2011, 23:53, Reply)
y'see I must be missing something
this sounds, to me just like the stuff you were linking before. I think it must be me though, you young people clearly know what you are on about.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:09, Reply)
very different.
Techno is 4/4 and much more formal in its structure. DnB is breakbeats and has a very different structure. Not to mention the different production tools and methods used in their making. They are as distinct from each other as heavy metal and jazz.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 8:11, Reply)
Tits!
the oldest and still the best.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:30, Reply)
bllllllllleeeeeeeeuuuugh

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:31, Reply)
wobbly lard bags
sleepy land time
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 0:43, Reply)
I greatly enjoyed the emergence of Nu-Metal
Linkin Park (on their first album), Coal Chamber, Static-X, Spineshank, Drowning Pool, American Head Charge, etc etc.

Fucking fantastic time to be getting into a genre.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 1:01, Reply)
Britpop?
Shit pop. It was fucking awful. I had a fantastic time in 1994 and it had nothing whatsoever to do with student singalong indie wankers.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 8:49, Reply)
I wasn't strictly speaking about the music.
I mean surely there was fun to be had in pubs and clubs at the time? Although I'm shocked to hear this is how you feel.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 8:54, Reply)
Hip hop was excellent - there was a strong old skool scene, lots of B-boy crews were emerging.
There were some excellent clubs too. I get my years mixed up but there were some great techno and jungle nights and then there was the shit we were up to which became 'big beat'.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 8:58, Reply)
It thoroughly depresses me there isn't any sort of hip hop scene/clubs to go to now.
There's one place in Newcastle on a Saturday where the DJ will play stuff if I ask him but that's about it.
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 9:08, Reply)
It went horribly wrong.

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 9:13, Reply)
I imagine they all ended up as places where you'd get a cap in yo' ass for shaking someone's hand the wrong way.

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 9:18, Reply)
1987-2001.
Awesome!
(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 8:58, Reply)
Because that long haired wanker blew his brains out?

(, Thu 28 Jul 2011, 8:59, Reply)

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