BBC Ben Brown looking for job with Daily Heil?
Staggering interview, Ben Brown accuses 'Wheelchair Guy' of "wheeling himself towards police"...he has cerebral palsey and can't operate his wheelchair...then in a fr.ted cringe moment Brown asks him was he throwing things and provoking the police by shouting at them.
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 0:43, Reply)
Better Qualities
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNJ3MZ-AUo
Also, his blog - jodymcintyre.wordpress.com/
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 0:58, Reply)
thanks
I changed the url to yours, thought it might be GC as b3ta is usually ahead of the posse on this stuff but I went back a few pages of links and there's only the footage of the initial incident.
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 1:00, Reply)
They dropped the fucking ball on this one :)
Unbelievable interview
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 1:05, Reply)
^thanks^
just complained - they do read these at least. I knew a girl with CPalsy and to think there are people supporting the treatment the cops dished out to him... it just baffles me.
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 2:51, Reply)
This the kind of thing you were looking for?
I am truly disgusted with the interview I have just seen here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNJ3MZ-AUo
The BBC is supposed to be impartial, I think your coverage of the current controversy of tuition fees has simply reduced it self to following the right wing press's agenda. This interview with a disabled person clearly subjected to an extreme and undeserved amount of force proves it to me. I think a full apology is needed. The manner of that interview is almost surreal, I've never felt compelled to complain to the BBC before, and usually feel that those that do should get a fucking life.. But what I have just seen is so beyond the pale, so beyond the realms of decent human interaction, SO BEYOND journalism and the reportage of current affairs that Ive had to complain! Jeeesus shitting christ guys! You just accused a guy in a wheel chair of threatening the police!
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Jorvic, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 5:35,
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btw Im fecking pissed
Still in my state I think i would have conducted that interview with abit more decorum
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Jorvic, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 5:42,
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should the interviewer have just sat down with him and had a good old bitch about how shitty the police are
or treat him as a normal human and ask him if he was being a cunt and throwing stuff
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 12:20, Reply)
Don't be ridiculous, actually listen to what the lad says, he cant use his chair by him self, as he says him self how the hell did he pose a threat to the police?
The interviewer is just being a needlessly combative cunt, and the lad talks a lot of sense. Now if he was simply trying to highlight how ridiculous it was for the police to behave in that way, well he could have done it in a much less patronising manner.
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Jorvic, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 12:52,
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Yeah but i and the interviewer probably didn't have a clue to how disabled they guy is. He could not be able to walk but could throw shit hard and fast
So of course he's got to ask him if he did do anything. As you would anyone else. But because he's disabled everyone will feel sorry for the poor little defenceless guy. The interviewer didn't sound nasty he just asked him if he did wrong which apparently is a crime in itself if it's directed at a crip
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 17:28, Reply)
Preety brutal journalism you could see which side Ben Brown was on it was more of a grilling than an interview
would he have been so rude to a Police Spokesperson? I doubt it.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 1:05,
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Go here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/
(It's very simple and very quick.)
I don't care what people's views on the ongoing protests are, this cunt needs to be given the fuck off for such an 'interview'.
BBC impartiality?
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sir_spicious2000 Crap I've watched: www.filmplop.blogspot.com/, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 1:18,
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That wasn't a very nice interview
Can't make my conclusions about what happened or anything about the victim in this case, don't know enough about it, but that interview was somewhat out of order.
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 1:32, Reply)
As someone who's had quite a bit of media training
I think this is just Ben's journalistic bent failing him. He's used to changing tack often and interrupting in interviews as a tool to unsettle a "guest".
In this interview, he hasn't factored in the reasonable need to allow more time for replies, due to the slower speaking speed of the interviewee. And therefore comes across as a jerk.
Well, that and the idiot questions he's asking.
And the fact that the interviewee is talking utter sense and actually has a brain better than his.
What a tit.
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Claws of Doom I am no longer infected, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 1:42,
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I appear to be watching a different video
In the one I am watching Brown says 'It has been suggested you were rolling toward the police, were you?'
As the answer contained neither a no or yes he asked him to clarify if it was a yes or no to which he was informed that he cant operate the chair himself.
I may only have a rudimentary grasp of the English language (only being a practitioner for 35 years or so) but to me that sounds like a journalist putting a question to someone to ask if rumours and speculation were true and trying to get a clear answer. There was no accusation of wheeling himself towards the police.
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Yes, I have to say that I dont see this as being spectacular journalism, but nor do I see it as egregious.
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enoughblueskyforsailorstrousers, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 2:07,
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yes you must be watching a different video
2m40s "wheeling yourself towards police"
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The bit that gets me
is not the questions about moving towards the police, but the accusation that he was throwing missiles at the police. I think it's pretty clear from the interview that he is unlikely to be doing that. I don't really think that in his state, even if he were throwing things, that he'd have much success. It's just another idiotic question in an idiotic interview.
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more balanced than jeremy beadle It wasn't me..., Tue 14 Dec 2010, 8:03,
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I'm with you on this.
I think the questions were perfectly reasonable and were seeking clarification.
I started watching this getting ready to call him a cunt but having watched the whole thing I don't see what there is to get excited about.
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Blackdogmanguitar is out with Fat Larry's Jazz Band on, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 9:35,
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The question is would he have used the same technique when interviewing whoever was in charge of the Police operations?
Maybe seeking clarification but the style of the interview was definitely confrontary in nature and designed more to make out he was some sort of wheelchair activitist/anarchist strategically used to make the Police look like violent cunts rather than the fact the the Police were definitely overhanded in their methodology of dealing with this "precieved" threat.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 9:45,
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Utterly, utterly disgusting.
Jaw-droppingly shocking. To imply that a guy with CEREBRAL FUCKING PALSY was in some way threatening the police by MOVING TOWARDS THEM . . . well, I've learned my lesson. I shall never again move towards a police officer, because apparently that's a fucking crime and deserves a beating.
Complaint made. I hope this cunt never gets to work in journalism again.
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 6:50, Reply)
Un..fucking..believable
absolutely disgusted by this. Gutter journalism at it's absolute worst. Maybe Brown was providing an on air resignation or auditioning for the Frankie Boyle show on C4. What an absolute douche.
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slartifartfast When all around are losing their heads, duck., Tue 14 Dec 2010, 8:08,
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I completely agree he's a being a knob
...and McIntyre does an excellent job of making this obvious.
What makes me uncomfortable is the burning torch mob type MUST RESIGN type stuff, flood of complaints, twitter army and all that stuff.
Let the guy have his bad day, let him look like a dick. He'll be told. He's not quite a Burley yet - he has quite a history of decent work. Someone probably pissed on his chips at the demo and he's in a strop.
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SpunkyBackpack, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 9:28,
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^this - seems that way that someone definitely pissed on his chips, as you say.
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 9:55,
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He comes across as a twat in that interview but
Ben Brown did do some really good war reporting for 20 years. He was a lot better when he was more worried about being shot than keeping his job by sucking up to management. A great shame he's ben reduced to this.
(, Wed 15 Dec 2010, 7:29, Reply)
Sorry but I don't see the problem
the interviewer is following the standard journalistic practice of listing the accusations made against the interviewee and allowing them to make their case - I don't sense any hostility there. He interrupted a couple of times, but journalists often do that to keep the pace of an interview moving.
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Bootsthealchemist is barred from the Masterchef Facebook page, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 10:13,
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He didn't respond to anything the guy was saying
He just kept asking the same questions over and over again, even after they'd been answered.
That's not journalism, that's trying to force out the answer you want.
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 10:46, Reply)
Some stupid questions
But the point is those are the questions some viewers will be asking themselves. It's up to the interviewee to answer them and he does.
Personally I think it's pretty condescending to suggest that a person with cerebral palsy can't cope with a normal interview which is what this was.
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Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere., Tue 14 Dec 2010, 10:59,
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nah thats bullshit
after reading a bit more about the guy it turns out he's a normal tit student, cerebal palsy or not, but the tone of the interview was definitely not fair and balanced.
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 11:45, Reply)
I just don't get why suddenly that's a problem for everyone
Pretty much every interview I've seen since the news started turning into Brass Eye has worked like this - ask the questions you think your enraged and stupid audience want to know the answer to. Which are never the right ones to get anything like the real story, but it doesn't matter because you've left a load of tuttting people wanting to find out more to become more enraged.
Some people seemed to be saying this time it matters because the guy's disabled.
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Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere., Tue 14 Dec 2010, 11:53,
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Seemed like a rather normal interview
He asked him a few questions to see if he was a trouble maker and he kept answering them with anything but a definitive answer.
I think everyone is getting all upset about this because they feel sorry for him and it sounded like he was going to cry half way through
(, Tue 14 Dec 2010, 12:15, Reply)
yep
this is a fairly standard "john humphries" style interview. good hard questions which were answered well
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parsley, Wed 15 Dec 2010, 18:06,
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Just tried to post this but was GC
Lovely to see. They seriously underestimated this chap.
(, Wed 15 Dec 2010, 7:25, Reply)
Read Ben's Blog
jodymcintyre.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/week-72-tory-party-hq/
It may have been edited recently, but part of the questioning was based on the persona Brown crafted for himself on this blog, as a revolutionary hero, who wasn't entirely interested in a peaceful protest.
You can't be a thug and a victim. Though, there is enough room that he might have not been practising what he preaches.
And before you call me a cunt, I am playing devil's advocate. I happen to agree with the protests, but not so much with the violence part of it. I happen to think the police are under appreciated, but also think they are cunts if they their authority to be immune from criticism.
Meh
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gaijintendo Regular Member, Wed 15 Dec 2010, 13:15,
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Hmm.
"It was an epic mission to the top. Nine floors; eighteen flights of stairs. Two friends carried my wheelchair, and I walked. We couldn’t give up now."
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ArghZombies No longer has a Leaky QUIM, Thu 16 Dec 2010, 13:55,
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'appeared' to show him pulled from his wheelchair?
What's so 'appeared' about it?
Also, for those who seem to be suggesting it's the job of an interviewer to ask tough questions of their subject, when are these questions ever put to the police?
If the motives and behavior of protesters are to be continually questioned, why not those of the police?
I observed a completely different, tiny protest the other day, and to be honest I was shocked/bemused by the attitude and misconceptions of some passers by. They seemed to assume all present were jobless, students, criminals or anarchists. Which was not the case at all.
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if anyone would like to leave a message for Ben http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ben-Brown/116071383134?v=wall
www.facebook.com/pages/Ben-Brown/116071383134?v=wall
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nocturne72, Thu 16 Dec 2010, 1:47,
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