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women in business
i have to go to a lecture on this shortly. to promote getting more women into business, and into higher roles in those businesses. is this a good thing? or is it just reverse discrimination?

alt: we get a sandwich lunch. which i can't eat. but i can look at them and imagine you lot eating them. what is the best sandwich filling ever? houmous and falafel with cheese and sour cream in a wrap ftw...
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:50, 134 replies, latest was 14 years ago)
I want more women in aprons
and red lipstick.

Why can't you eat the sandwich? Best filling ever, is sweet potato mash with red onion, and really really strong cheese. Something on the lines of a cheddar.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:54, Reply)
stupid no carb diet
never done no carbs before. it's... restrictive.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:57, Reply)
and fucking stupid
and ineffective, and dangerous.

But you knew that, right?
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:58, Reply)
it's 100 days
how much harm can it do?

none, right??
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:59, Reply)
HAVE YOU NEVER SEEN 'SUPER SIZE ME'??????


Me neither.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:00, Reply)
That film just makes me hungry, for I am an internet fatty.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:01, Reply)
depends how much you like your liver and kidneys functioning
really.

Probably not that much in 100 days to be honest. But it's totally undoing any benefit you might think you're getting in alcohol abstinance. And since you're actively increasing toxin levels it's a bit silly as a piece of detox.

And it won't do the tinest bit of good long-term in terms of weight loss either. Incidentally, what on earth does a veggie on a no-carb diet eat?
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:02, Reply)
Lettuce

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:02, Reply)
vegetables are mostly made of carbs.
indigestible in general, granted, but still.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:03, Reply)
Didn't know that...

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:06, Reply)
plant cell walls are mostly cellulose, hemicellulose and lignin (dependent on species).
All carbs. We can't digest cellulose or lignin, because we aren't ruminants, which is why we are meant to be omniverous.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:08, Reply)
Women deserve the same opportunities as men
However, I can say with some confidence that not all men will take a year (or more) out during their career to raise a child. So, with that in mind, is it a shock when men are promoted over women?

Yes, I know there is more to the argument than that, but considering how short sighted many people are, that justification is all they need.

Alt: Ham, cheese and pickle is rather good. As is warm ham/bloody sliced beef with horseradish. As a northerner though, I do appreciate a good chip butty.

However, for an all time best, I don't think you can really top freshly cut hot roast chicken, on buttered white bread. It's just fantastic.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:55, Reply)
mmmm
branigans ham and pickle crisps
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:58, Reply)
Surely they aren't veggie?

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:02, Reply)
Meaty flavoured crisps often don't have actual meat in them, therefore can be suitable for veggies.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:10, Reply)
whilst, oddly, cheese and onion crisps frequently aren't

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:11, Reply)
I'M SO CONFUSED!!!

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:13, Reply)
More women in those fifties skirts
that all kick out and that.

They can also be in business, or not. The skirts are the important bit.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:55, Reply)
funnily enough
i am wearing one of those today. except mine comes just about an inch above the knee. like a 50's slut.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:57, Reply)
sluttiest of all the decades.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:05, Reply)
I wholeheartedly approve of such things.
Though perhaps not necessarily the most feministic of clothing to be wearing to a lecture about women in business.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:07, Reply)
i don't agree with women in the workplace, they're a distraction
and they turn the male employees into nobs
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:56, Reply)
i saw a flier years ago for some "Women's seminars" they included
How not to cry during confrontation
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:57, Reply)
another reason why they should stick to catering funfairs

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:58, Reply)
Hahaha

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:00, Reply)
If people are making decisions about suitability etc based on gender, it's sexism and is wrong.
cf race, physical ability etc. The old Ken Livingstone 'every council should have a minimum of three black, gay flids on their staff' thing is fucking apalling and utterly, utterly wrong.

Alt: salt beef, gherkins, Enlish mustard, on rye bread. They may secretly rule the world and should be exterminated, but dem Jews sho' nuff know their way round a sarnie.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:57, Reply)
Why can't you eat the sandwiches?
do they contain diet coke and booze?

I don't think putting more people into "business" generically is of any fucking use to anyone, be they male or female.

More women into science, or medicine, or whatever, might be of some use to society.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:58, Reply)
stupid no carb diet
never done no carbs before. it's... restrictive.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:58, Reply)
see my post above.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 11:59, Reply)
pies aren't carbs, you'll be alright

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:00, Reply)
Weight might drop off, but it will pile back on as soon as you eat normally again.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:02, Reply)
restrictive, pointless and ultimately unhealthy.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:04, Reply)
Can't remember the last time I had a sandwich.
Can't even remember the last time we had bread in the house.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:04, Reply)
Women in business?
But who will make the sandwiches?

Alt: A good rule of thumb is a sandwich needs a minimum of three fillings to be good.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:04, Reply)
I put it to you that Bacon and Ketchup is only two fillings.
Unless we are counted slightly salted butter as a filling too, I suppose.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:06, Reply)
Brown sauce is better than ketchup for Bacon.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:06, Reply)
I disagree, but I think we can at least settle on the fact that Tangled is wronger than either of us.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:07, Reply)
He's a veggie, what do you expect?

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:33, Reply)
I'm doing food wrong.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:36, Reply)
Two fillings - not good enough.
Butter doesn't count, that is an essential glue not a filling.
At least add some mayonnaise, lettuce and tomato.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:08, Reply)
I refer you to AA's post below.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:08, Reply)
His typical northerner's response was typically northern.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:16, Reply)
Yet still correct

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:31, Reply)
fuck the fuck off.
putting vegetables in a sandwich that contains pig is a crime akin to being caught screwing your own daughter.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:10, Reply)
Merely a suggestion
I don't pretend to understand how you omnivores work.
Add some other bits of pig if you prefer, or some parts of another animal.
My point still stands (with some clarification): to make a sandwich good great, you need a minimum of 3 fillings.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:16, Reply)
I think in a lot of cases you are correct
however, there are certain exceptions. One of those being the humble bacon sarnie, which clearly only needs two fillings.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:17, Reply)
I only ever eat vegetarian bacon*
and I'm sure you will agree that needs all the help it can get.


*Yes. Vegetarian bacon. I know, I'm an abomination.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:20, Reply)
you've let the board down, you've let me down
but most of all, you've let yourself down.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:22, Reply)
*hangs head in shame*
*thinks about what I've done*


*flicks Vs behind badgo's back*
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:30, Reply)
What about fruit?
As a fresh pork sandwich with apple sauce is pretty damn good
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:30, Reply)
Permissable in specific circumstances, but it's a tightrope, Agners. Watch your step with that.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:40, Reply)
The only one that springs to mind is the example above, currently

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:42, Reply)
fried onions in a hotdog did also spring to mind
but that's arguably outside of the whole sandwich genre anyway.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:46, Reply)
Fried onions & mushrooms in a bacon sandwich is excellent.
But do either of them count as fruit?
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:48, Reply)
Yet the BLT goes against that, as the best way to improve it is to remove the lettuce and tomato.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:06, Reply)
As with all positive discrimination schemes
All they do is reinforce a stereo type. As the grumpy one said above when you start to give preferential treatment to any group you are immediately singling them out as different therefore vicious circle appears. People who go into business should be the best person for the job (etc) rather than the best person who will fit within the rigid criterion we have set.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:09, Reply)
It's making the assumption that women actually have these burning ambitions, though.
See also 'we need more black people in the police force'. No, we don't, we need more people in the police force capable of doing a fair and honest job, it doesn't matter what colour their skin is. Besides, it's assuming that black people actually want to become coppers.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:09, Reply)
Most can't as they have criminal records innit

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:13, Reply)
I was waiting for a reply along those lines...

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:14, Reply)
i was joking...

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:41, Reply)
I know...

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:43, Reply)
There should be more women making me sandwiches
Chicken escalope, ham, sunblush tomatoes and mustard mayo on sourdough bread sandwiches with a side order of blowjob
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:12, Reply)
I think people have read this as 'choosing women over men'
but I read it as 'promoting the idea of working in business to women', which is a very different thing. Choosing someone for a job based on gender, race etc is wrong. Getting out and promoting e.g. joining the police to the black community is not wrong.

So no, it's not discrimination based on what you've said. Quotas saying that '50% of the workforce have to be women' would be though.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:13, Reply)
as I said
I'm more concerned that it seems to be promoting the idea of a generic "career in business".

At least have the imagination or ambition to want to work at something specific.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:15, Reply)
Yeah, I saw that.
I didn't actually have your post in mind when I wrote mine though. I don't really have an opinion on what you said at the moment, it's not something that I'd considered.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:21, Reply)
Alt
Best sandwich...

Rare Steak sandwich hold the bread.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:17, Reply)
You would have enjoyed my dinner last night.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:26, Reply)
oh yeah, how was it?

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:31, Reply)
Pretty fucking good thanks.
The rolled rib of beef was superlative - not sure if I'd have paid £44 for it...but I didn't so jolly good all round. The accompanying Malbec was utterly delicious too.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:41, Reply)
You were holding bread, wishing there was steak to put in it?

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:32, Reply)
Best sandwich ever = my own creation, the deathwich
Take two potato waffles, toast, stick slab of cheese in the middle, eat. WIN.

Tis a sandwich of purest yellow.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:29, Reply)
that sounds horrible

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:29, Reply)
Nottingham, while technically in the Midlands
Is quite northern in its outlook.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:31, Reply)
This is very true
It's not that far north of Norwich but the two places are very different in that respect
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:33, Reply)
That sounds hideous.
If you want a sandwich that will kill you, it needs to be the manwich.

Sausage, bacon, egg, black pudding.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:32, Reply)
needs MOAR fried egg

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:33, Reply)
2 eggs?
I can see your point, but for some reason, if I eat more than one fried egg, I feel sick.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:34, Reply)
It's best with Mexicana or another Attack Cheese
Or with a slab of beefburger in the middle
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:34, Reply)
I've been craving proper burgers recently, might have to pick some up soon.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:36, Reply)
I love sandwiches.
Cheese is the best thing on sandwiches.
Feta salad pitta, salami and cream cheese, houmous cheese salad, brie and walnut, fuck it, even a bit of laughing cow spread on a round of bread is gorgeous. Also, bacon, butter, soft white bread. Simple. Boss. Carnivorous though, so not your bag.

Also, cutting out bread makes you lose weight, but you don;t need to cut out carbs altogether. I've lost a stone and I eat a lot of carbs and have an almost vegetarian diet.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:30, Reply)
marmite and cheddar, on granary, toasted so the cheese melts

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:33, Reply)
Oh yes, bloody gorgeous

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:33, Reply)
Lea & perrins with cheese on toast is rather good too

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:41, Reply)
I put that shit on my egg fried rice instead of soy sauce once :(

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:42, Reply)
Haha
My friend once ordered a side of gravy from the chinese, when he got home he thought the gravy looked a bit dark, tried a little, and started coughing. Turned out they'd just poured soy sauce into a gravy pot. I was laughing so hard I nearly spilled my chow mein.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:46, Reply)
Oh the bastards!

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:54, Reply)
The place was only round the corner, so it only took 30 seconds for him to run round and rectify it
By which point I'd had to put my food down, as I was laughing too hard. The actual fact it was soy sauce was mildly entertaining, the look on his face after he'd tried it was the brilliant bit.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:57, Reply)
eating less food makes you lose weight
cutting out one food group entirely is a very odd way to do it.

Although just cutting out bread isn't going to do you any harm, granted.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:47, Reply)
Or you can eat lots of food, but stuff that is healthy and not fattening.
if you have an entire plate of steamed veg and chicken, it's not going to be as bad for you as a tiny McDonalds cheeseburger is it?
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:54, Reply)
my favourite sandwich is the sausage and bacon with brown sauce on doorstep sliced bread that giuseppe does for me at my local cafe
I love giuseppe, and so do the ladies, if you know what i mean
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:30, Reply)
doorstep bread is fine, but you need massive fillings to counter it

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:32, Reply)
I like sausage sarnies with brown sauce, but I refuse to contaminate bacon with anything but butter and bread

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:33, Reply)
Bacon with brown sauce for me
Everything else, ketchup.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:34, Reply)
I'm having a sausage and ketchup buttie right now.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:35, Reply)
Cheese?

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:36, Reply)
Nah, just the sausage.
Mighty fine sausage though. 100% pure pork from the local butcher, with a girth the size of a baby's wrist.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:38, Reply)
Proper sausages are fantastic
One of my housemates picked up some lamb & mint ones at the weekend, and made a dish with them last night, absolutely fucking spectacular.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:40, Reply)
Sausages can be fucked around with too much, I find.
Sometimes a plain old beef or pork banger is the only thing to cut the mustard. When you start adding marzipan and apricot it's a one way ticket to ponce land.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:42, Reply)
I can't stand apricots anyway
I'd never have bought these sausages myself, but they are fantastic. I tend to either go for Cumberland, Pork, or Wild Boar sausages from this place. I did once get pork & leek, and whilst they were very tasty, they were a little too strong flavoured for my liking.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:44, Reply)
I bought some venison sausages once.
Very nice, but at £3.99 for half a dozen they were a little dear...
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:46, Reply)
Afternoon Jeff.
I found venison sausages to be a bit too heavy for my liking
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:46, Reply)
ketchup with frankfurters, brown with all else for me

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:36, Reply)
Fair point!

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:37, Reply)
I think so.
He's popular with both women and irritating homosexuals - right?
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:36, Reply)
Well, that'd explain how you know him...

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:37, Reply)
All schoolchildren know that any sandwich can be improved by the addition of crisps.
Apart from children in the north, for whom this is likely to be the only filling.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:33, Reply)
yeah me and my mum sometimes make crisp butties during an emotional crisis

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:34, Reply)
I favour a salt and vinegar crisp filling
And, despite not really caring for white bread, it seems to suit a crisp sandwich well.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:37, Reply)
One thing I used to eat was ham, salad cream, and cheese dorito sandwiches

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:38, Reply)
my auntie puts Wotsits and brown sauce on a butty...

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:38, Reply)
I thought you had hit Northern commoner rock bottom
then you go and post this
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:40, Reply)
There are worse things.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:41, Reply)
yeah like a buttered baguette, thick with butter, wiped through several batches of bacon dripping

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:41, Reply)
That sounds quite sickening.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:44, Reply)
Sounds it.
Tastes like paradise though.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:45, Reply)
I can imagine!
If I make a bacon, mushroom and onion sandwich, one slice of toast is often dipped into the pan before the sandwich is completed.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:47, Reply)
Fwoar

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:52, Reply)
My ex's uncle did a roast chicken when we were on holiday in France once.
Put loads of cloves of garlic around it and inside the cavity. We then went out for a bit and left it in the oven slightly too long. Mopping the juices up with some crusty french bread was heaven on earth.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:48, Reply)
Oof, that does sound good.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:49, Reply)
It's fucking fantastic.
Roast the chicken in about quarter a bottle of white wine and it goes really moist. Plus you can make an excellent gravy from it.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:50, Reply)
Mash up the garlic into the sauce too?

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:51, Reply)
You could do.
We just eat it whole as it goes nice and sweet. Tends to make colleagues complain the next day though.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 13:01, Reply)
I agree. Fluffy thick white bread so it survives the crisp-crush test

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:38, Reply)
We just dispense with the bread, to be honest, and dip the crisps in lard.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:34, Reply)
I found that a place near me sells beef dripping
I don't think I've ever seen it sold before.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:35, Reply)
My mum used to make us stewed apple sammiches as a kid. They were lush.
My favorite is processed cheese slices on crusty bread.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:41, Reply)
Thgis thread is very lolfatty, anyone want to own up to being a virgin while we're here?

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:42, Reply)
Me

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:42, Reply)
Nah, I'm with Vodafone.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:43, Reply)
Definitely
Chicken, cheese, bacon and BBQ sauce in a crusty baguette.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:45, Reply)
Different sandwiches for different moods and situations, but some examples of mighty fine sandwiches are
- My amazing chicken sandwich, which is cooked with a ton of butter and garlic under the skin, on a bed of onions that soak up all the juices/butter, with some sweet-chili'n'mayo spread, thinly sliced raw onion and crisp iceburg lettous.
- A bagel, a REAL bagel, with crispy bacon and a fried duck-egg, the bagel crisped up by putting it in the pan the bacon was cooked in for a few seconds... with your choice of ketchup, brown sauce (or my fave, which is Guinness Sauce)
- A roast beef sandwich with a bit of cress and a firey hot horseraddish cream
- A steak cut against the grain (VERY IMPORTANT THAT), on some kind of chiabbata like loaf, with horse raddish or mustard. And chips on the side, REAL CHIPS though.
- Tartar sauce and fishfingers in a soft white bap
- Roasted vegetables and a selection of salamis on a bed of hummous.

.... I can go on forever ....
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:53, Reply)
I can't believe it's gone this far before anyone has mentioned a fish finger sandwich!

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:55, Reply)
Fucking gorgeous. You can get em in posh places now too. Pot of tartare sauce and all that.

(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:57, Reply)
Fan-fookin-tastic
Annoying, I'm off Fish fingers currently, have been for a while. Shall have to rectify that soon.
(, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 13:00, Reply)

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