Gonz has just reminded me, that I don't know your views on climate change
So quick questionaire.

1: Do you believe that man made climate change is possible?
2: Do you think it's happening?
3: Do you think that as an individual you have to do anything about it?
4: What do you think the result of doing nothing will be?
(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:38, 160 replies, latest was 13 years ago)

1. Yes
2. Probably
3. Fuck all
4. Fuck knows
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:39, Reply)

1. yes
2. yes
3. probably although there's not much I can do.
4. rising sea levels and 'interesting' weather.. can't remember if the gulf stream topping is part of this or just something that's likely to happen anyway.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:41, Reply)

There's plenty most people can do to be honest.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:45, Reply)

Point being that in the west if you drop your "carbon footprint" (awful phrase) by 20% that's like 200 chinese people cutting theirs by 20%

(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:49, Reply)

Yes but there are fucking billions of Chinkies and their 'footprint' is growing at a terrifying rate,
I read that their meat consumption per capita has increased 20-fold in the last ten years. Greedy little blighters.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:50, Reply)

They get crispy chilli beef on tap.
But yes their footprint is growing at an alarming rate. Luckily their population is controlled and not going through a boom.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:52, Reply)

I want some crispy chilli beef now.
That wasn't really the 'message' of this thread was it?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:54, Reply)

I was just hoping for an argument to be honest.
I think there'll be one before this thread dies out.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:55, Reply)

SHUT UP WILL THERE
GOD I HATE YOU
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:58, Reply)

Will that do?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:58, Reply)

NO THERE FUCKING WON'T!

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:59, Reply)

RIGHT, THAT'S IT!

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:04, Reply)

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:19, Reply)

I love that 'Bronson' film!

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:23, Reply)

Where did that extraordinarily suspicious-sounding stat come from?
sounds like arsewater to me.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:52, Reply)

I'm an Analyst, don't ever question my made up stats.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:53, Reply)

Of course it is,
Probably,
Yes, you should, but it's understandably difficult to make choices that might cost you more money or affect your short-term quality of life when industry/governments won't.
and
ARMAFUCKINGGEDDON. Only joking. Norfolk will get a bit wet and we'll all end up with utterly fucked weather.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:44, Reply)

1 yes
2 most likely
3 yes
4 extinction and annihilation of our entire planet. Or maybe only the green things. and the floaty things.
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:45, Reply)

I think it's most likely that just lots of humans die.
Plants and animals on a whole will get along better without us, even with fucked up weather.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:47, Reply)

The planet has been through more extreme weather cycles than we can ever force upon it as humans
The planet will be absolutely fine. As will life on it. Just not all current life, in the areas it currently inhabits. That includes us
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:51, Reply)

I hope you realise the vast majority of my 4th answer was facetious....

(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:59, Reply)

I like the idea of "only green things" surviving
the planet is now ruled by frogs, algae and the Hulk.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:00, Reply)

Hulk is most environmentally durable one there is
He could definitely have the Green Power Ranger
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:01, Reply)

1: Yes
2: Yes
3: Yes
4: More extreme weather, loss of species, human life, habitat, clean water and resources, more wars.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:46, Reply)

Oh man I like Habitat too.
I got a nice table there once.

SAVE THE HABITAT!!!!
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:47, Reply)

I prefer Heal's anyway.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:58, Reply)

^ TRANNY ALERT

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:16, Reply)

1. Yes
2. Yes but the extent to which we are affecting climate as opposed to cyclic change we have no influence over, is not clear to me nor indeed, I suspect, to anyone (what a terribly-constructed sentence, soz)
3. Yes, I always make sure that I am neither a Chinese nor an Indian industrial giant at all times
4. More tedious gays whining on the internet
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:46, Reply)

When did you last check your industrial status?

(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:50, Reply)

Just before I left for work.
For a moment I thought I might be a gigantic steel-producing corporation but it turned out that I wasn't.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:51, Reply)

You are!
Right through to the Corus
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:53, Reply)

I agree with monty.
Also he is handsome.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:55, Reply)

And remarkably well-hung
at least that's what it says on the wall of the toilet in his local.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:58, Reply)

I wrote that, to be fair.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:02, Reply)

^ See? This guy gets it!

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:02, Reply)

1. Yes, it certainly contributes
2. Yep
3. Of course we do. I try to recycle, get the Metro to work rather than drive, have "energy efficient" bulbs, etc..
4. Firey death
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:50, Reply)

4. Fiery

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:50, Reply)

No, firey
With fire
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:51, Reply)

FIERY

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:56, Reply)

YOUN FIRED

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:02, Reply)

1. yes, but the fact that you used the word "believe" ruins the whole question, as you've made it quasi-religious like the majority of people arguing about it.
2. I think that if you pump enough shite into the atmosphere it's bound to have some sort of effect, the question is what effect?
3. As an individual you should do what you can, be less selfish.
4. Not proven either way, but there are many other forms of environmental damage occurring that don't attract the same religious fervour or press coverage or taxation that have an equal or better chance of biting someone in the ass, problem is no-one's interested.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:51, Reply)

I know I'm not.
Fuck me this is dull.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:57, Reply)

i only went out for like half an hour,
And now this.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:59, Reply)

Well don't do that again.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:02, Reply)

Some people are making a fortune from it
Al Gore, for one
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:00, Reply)

Al Gore is making money from this shit thread?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:02, Reply)

Cunt makes money out of EVERYTHING.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:04, Reply)

Every time someone is attacked by a bull he gets money.
It's a ah-ha-ha-ha 'Gore tax'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:05, Reply)

No, they make gloves and stuff

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:06, Reply)

Money makes cunts out of EVERYONE
Everyone makes money out of cunts

and so forth
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:05, Reply)

Thanks "Milton Friedman"

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:07, Reply)

That man has no first name
That always freaks me out. Like that singer, Taylor Swift. WHAT Taylor Swift? Why does she go by her surnames alone? Why has she even got two surnames without the conventional hyphen between them?

Same goes for Monty's Dad. Bruce Lee WHAT, exactly? Who doesn't have a surname? I bet he changed it when he got into movies, a lot of people do that, like Angelina Jolie. His surname's probably Fannygrab or something embarrassing. Hollywood changed him, man.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:11, Reply)

His real name was Bruce Forsyth so he had to change it to be a member of Equity.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:18, Reply)

I prefer the alternative
that the conspiracy theorists are right, Bruce Lee never died, he had a massive chin grafted on in order to pursue a career in light entertainment.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:19, Reply)

I'm saying nothing
*taps nose*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:20, Reply)

Never trust anyone with two first names as their whole name
Also - never trust a man in grey leather shoes.
Words to live by
(Captain Placid 24/7 ball gags, brownie mix and clown porn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:18, Reply)

Hmm
My first and surname can both be both:

2 first names or 2 surnames...
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:30, Reply)

You're Gary Neville's dad?

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:34, Reply)

this is one of the worst things
anyone has ever accused me of
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:35, Reply)

1. yes
2. No
3. Yes
4. I don't really know, I'm not up enough on it, but a global change in climate patterns wil mean a lifestyle change for many, some possibly even positive.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:54, Reply)

1. Obviously
2. See above
3. I live a pretty green lifestyle but am constantly reminded of other things I could be doing
4. Due to our house being atop one of the closest things to a hill that Norfolk has, we'll probably be crowned King and Queen of the water-people and get chaffeured gondolas
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 10:57, Reply)

By virtue of having the anatomically correct number of fingers and toes
I'm frankly amazed you haven't already been crowned. Or burned as witches.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:00, Reply)

You're assuming that this is true of me
I actually have three thumbs. But I piss through one of them.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:02, Reply)

On the other hand...

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:03, Reply)

I hate it when my gondolas get chafed.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:34, Reply)

I'm not a fan of windfarms, they're ugly, and generate bugger all leccy.

(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:07, Reply)

I didn't know your mum was a wind farm.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:14, Reply)

By rubbing her briskly, much static is generated.
And how are you you hippy? Tickety boo?
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:15, Reply)

Pretty shit to be honest BP old bean.
You?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:17, Reply)

Fucking pissed off mate.
Will problems with my sister. Basically she's refusing me cash, on the grounds I "might do something stupid with it". Cunt.
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:21, Reply)

Beyotch.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:24, Reply)

You think your ex missus is a cow?
Man, you want to meet my sister and her daughter. Like the Borgias on speed.
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:29, Reply)

There could be a Nobel Prize in this
solving the energy crisis by generating electricity from your mum.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:19, Reply)

If we used a few mums, the possibilities could be endless.
I shall investigate using science.
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:22, Reply)

I think they're attractive.
And they produce a decent amount of electricity, the problem being that the more you put up the less effective they become. because all the windiest places will get full and then you'll have to use less windy places.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:18, Reply)

We're meant to be reaching peak oil too.
So basically it's back to the dark Ages. Horse, carts, no telly and burning wimmin as witches.
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:10, Reply)

"Bloody peasants!"

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:11, Reply)

I can see myself with a pitchfork, leading a baying mob to mindless savagery and mayhem.
And I get to wear a straw hat too. Ace.
Edit, I is hazzing first Crimbo dinner of the season today. Shall I go for the meat, (gammon or turkey main, black pud and egg starter), or wuss out and go vegi? Carrot and lemon soup. and a nut roast?
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:13, Reply)

What sort of fucking question is that?

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:21, Reply)

Lunch related.
I assume you'd go meat?
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:23, Reply)

actually,
My knee jerk reaction was incorrect. Decisions about lunch need to take in to account the numbers of guests, previous knowledge of the venues quality, what you're doing later in the day. Jesus, I think we might need a whole thread just for lunch.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:26, Reply)

FOOOOOODDDDD THREEEEAAAADDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:29, Reply)

\o/

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:33, Reply)

Don't be a gay. FFS.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:24, Reply)

Nah, there's plenty of oil still in the ground.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:17, Reply)

if only there was some sort of Uranium
that could be used to create steam, I think that could work
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:32, Reply)

George Osbourns £59 BILLION worth of tax rises and cuts have made, absolutly no difference to the structural deficit in the last three years.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:23, Reply)

And it looks like we'll be losing our AAA rating.
(no one cares except Osbourn)
(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:24, Reply)

Dogma doesn't match reality
Whodathunkit?
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:27, Reply)

citation needed

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:27, Reply)

FLANDERS
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20606603
(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:30, Reply)

I fancy her a little.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:32, Reply)

To be fair it's not entirely George's fault that the global economy is wanked.
It is at least possible things would be worse for us had we not introduced cuts.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:34, Reply)

Nope, things would be much better now if there were no cuts.
There is an argument that things could be worse "down the line" but no serious economist would argue that GDP would be lower now than it is if the government kept nearly £60billion flowing about the system.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:36, Reply)

this

( Peej, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:40, Reply)

or, you might say they have prevented it from rising even further

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:52, Reply)

no, they really haven't
that's really not how it works.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:58, Reply)

yeah it does

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:06, Reply)

It doesn't
in order to reduce a deficit you also need to stimulate the economy. It doesn't exactly work like a bank loan. To be massively simplistic, you need to keep as much theoretical money in circulation as possible whilst trying to cut what you spend. Public sector expenditure stays in circulation, so cutting it hammers the economy. Osborne and the treasury* are well aware of this, freely addmitted it, but said they thought the private sector would increase spending to more than cover it. Didn't happen, was never going to fucking happen.

Increasing tax across the board raises revenues but also reduces what can be spent within the country because it hits those who are just breaking even in general. So shafts the economy as well.

Taxing the weathly or corporations more will work, because it is recovering money that is either not spent at all or moved out of the UK. Of course, they may threaten to leave the UK entirely, but then you're left with a strategy that might fail rather than ones like those above which an A-level economy student can spot the flaws in.

*I'm not suggesting the treasury did this willingly. They are more aware of how much of a fucking tool Osborne is than the rest of us. It's just he's ultimately in charge
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:14, Reply)

Yeah but you've missed a big point
Idealogically the tories yearn for a smaller state, by wrapping up the reduction in nstate spending as essential austerity to baslance the books they can do so with less push back from the public, political genius.

Also, the private sector hasn't filled the gap as planned, however at the beggining of all oif this, no one guessed thye global economic "downturn" would last so long. Had there been a stronger global and European recovery the plan may have worked better. Hindsight innit.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:19, Reply)

It's not genius, because it's obvious and it's going to cost them the next election, making it idiocy - but yeah, you're right it's politically motivated.
Doesn't make it any less retarded.

And your point is a good one except the UK private sector is hideously unbalanced in favour of things that are much less use in an economic downturn. Like the service industry. And, to be honest, quite a number of economists predicted it would last at least this long if not much longer. Osborne just ignored them.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:25, Reply)

I can't be bothered looking up links or whatever so you'll just have to take my word for it.
But if you look at the things Cameron, Osborne, Gove, etc. were saying before they were in power, even before the economic downturn, these were always their plans.
They are ideological cuts, not economic cuts.

+n +n
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:31, Reply)

yeah, I'm pretty sure you, me and nakers are in agreement on that.
What's retarded is that in order for it to be useful as a political ideaology, it had to at least stand a decent chance of working. Because now what they've done is fucked it up and lied about it, as opposed to either/or.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:34, Reply)

There's too much agreement going on here for this to work properly
So I'll just call Nakers a cunt:
NAKERS YOU ARE A CUNT.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:37, Reply)

I'm going for lunch
that offers prime opportunity for you to accuse me of touching goats.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:38, Reply)

That's precisely the sort of thing I'd expect from a goat-toucher like you.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:39, Reply)

Economists bhave been predicting such a wide range of scenarios and outcomes, you have to ignore someone
I agree with your second point, we are never going to be a manufacturing powerhouse, but that doesn't mean we can't make or design things of value that can continue to contribute tio the economy even in tough times, ARM chips would be a classic example.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:32, Reply)

Yeah, good point about economists.
I'd suggest not ignoring your own treasury though, which is what he did. They are, after all, the ones who actually know how this shit works.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:35, Reply)

true, but let's be honest. How often have we looked at the tereasurey and thought wtf are they doing?
no one is 100% correct on matters like this as it involves predicting the future!
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:40, Reply)

well, you very rarely get to find out what the treasury are doing
their job is to advise the government. The point is they know much, muhc more about it than the government. So, if they government listen to the treasury and it still goes tits up, that's unfortunate, and as you rightly say, you can't always predict the future. But if, as a government, you ignore your own treasury and it goes tits up, that's being really really fucking stupid.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 13:22, Reply)

It might have made a significant difference it was properly targetted tax rises.
But taking money of those that can afford it is so unfair.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:00, Reply)

He's a prick and should be stopped.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:05, Reply)

Tangles - cutting through the bullshit to the heart of the matter
do you have some kind of newsletter to which I could subscribe?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:07, Reply)

Unfortunately it got stopped BY THE MAN for inciting people to strap explosives to their bodies and hug George Osborne.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:10, Reply)

it's more of a news compost

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:10, Reply)

things are fine, I haven't noticed any difference in my standard of living over the last 4 years
I get a pay rise every year and have no problem paying the mortgage and bills. Petrol is a little expensive, but I really don't know what everyone is complaining about.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:11, Reply)

Would you say that you are representative of the majority of the UK population?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:15, Reply)

As you all so regularly point out I am a complete "bent spastic" and yet I can ride out the economic storm
what does that say about everyone else?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:20, Reply)

That they are WTN?
I dunno, I'm doing alright too.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:21, Reply)

Well la di da you middle cass prick, looking down on the hard working, er, working class
you should be ashamed and demand to pay more tax to prop up everybody else
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:22, Reply)

Fuck that, I'm the 'squeezed middle'

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:28, Reply)

according to the Today program you don't exist
the cuts have hit the poorest 20% and the tax rises the richest 10%, you should be fine
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:35, Reply)

*disappears*

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:35, Reply)

The VAT rise has hit everyone.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:36, Reply)

well yes it has, which is why it's sucha poor way of raising additional revenue
I'm with you on the idea of tax simplification.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:38, Reply)

Neither have I
doesn't mean that everything is OK. It's just OK for us.

And certainly doesn't mean that Osborne isn't a terrifyingly idiotic fucktard who should be fed to bears.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:16, Reply)

OK high fives
fancy a a pint and some lunch in an over priced gastro pub?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:20, Reply)

I've got a slot at 2 after I finish wiping my arse with tenners. Let's do it.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:26, Reply)

tenners? Povvo

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:28, Reply)

Yeah, but you should see the size of my shits
I call it "financial prudence"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:30, Reply)

Naked Ape, earlier
www.oddfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/SNN0205A-620_1630559a.jpg
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 13:01, Reply)

They are complaining that you are a bent spastic

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:17, Reply)

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. We'll fuck things up for ourselves, wipe out many species including our own and the planet will be just fine without us.
( Peej, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:25, Reply)

Yes
Yes
Yes
Substantial.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:30, Reply)

1: yes
2: a bit
3: Nothin
4: Kevin Costner will grow gills
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 11:49, Reply)

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. Climate change.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:03, Reply)

Don't worry Solihull is about as far from the sea as you can get

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:05, Reply)

I quite like this upgrade to Solihull.
And you're not wrong - Meriden was claiming to be the central point of England for a long time.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:08, Reply)

where do you live? Wolverhampton?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:09, Reply)

Anything north of Oxford is just a meaningless blur to you, isn't it?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:13, Reply)

completely
I have country cataracts
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:14, Reply)

There's a monument and everything

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:10, Reply)

There's a fight kicking off on QOTW between Plumdozer and Legless.
Possibly the most exciting thing to happen here this week. Odds anyone?
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:19, Reply)

why bdo people always say things like this without linking?
link Bear Pookie, LINK IT
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:21, Reply)

^ Up there - top of the page.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:23, Reply)

I apologise, here is your cut out and keep for lazy gits.
b3ta.com/questions/noselfawareness/post1800324
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:24, Reply)

The slating PD is getting on /talk is funnier:
www.b3ta.com/talk/7601426
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:25, Reply)

I thought talk would odder tea and sympathy.

(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:28, Reply)

that is "fucking shit"

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:26, Reply)

Christ have things really got so dull that a spaz fight is the most exciting thing to happen?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:23, Reply)

Turns out no one gives a shit about pizza bash

(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:33, Reply)

Even with several weeks build-up to it on here.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:33, Reply)

How many b3tans does it take to eat a pizza?
One, but it takes a lot of planning.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:34, Reply)

This is a witty post.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:35, Reply)

they probably just roll them up and deep throat them

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:37, Reply)

Bored of this now.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:49, Reply)

NOO FRED

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:51, Reply)

climate change is the one that's going to result in a black hole right?

( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 12:50, Reply)

Chilly oot pet.
I think things are definitely on the verge of going tits up. The occurance of natural disasters are far more frequent and the weather is unstable at best.

Doesn't help that we've tarmacced over most of the natural world and are prone to blowing it up frequently.

I recycle, walk when I can and switch plugs off. Not much but every little helps.

Nothing major will happen in my lifetime, but that's a selfish way to look at things.

Our kids have a lot of troubles ahead I think.

Not that I have any, I hate kids.
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Wed 5 Dec 2012, 13:04, Reply)