That seems to be that, for that thread.
Minimum alcohol pricing.

There was a woman from the GMC on R4 this morning claiming that the introduction of the above would a) help the families of problem drinkers and b) help society as a whole by reducing the social problems of pissed up people in the street.

I call bollocks on both:
a) Surely if you have an ADDICTION TO ALCOHOL a small price increase is not exactly going to make you give up. Similarly if ten-bags of smack went up to eleven quid people across the nation would hardly be packing it in complaining that it cost too much FFS
b) the real social problems associated with drink prices would seem to me that drinking in pubs is so prohibitively expensive that people either stay in or pre-load before going out to save cash. Both of these issues would be better tackled by making pub drinking cheaper - it's supervised for one thing. The very fabric of our great nation is being rent asunder by punitive taxation. HEAR HEAR etc

Alt: Those queers, eh? What are they liiike? /Ainsley
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:31, 218 replies, latest was 13 years ago)

Coincidence day was yesterday.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:31, Reply)

Yeah well 'Tangles is a yurt prick' day seems to be EVERY FUCKING DAY

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:32, Reply)

How do you think I feel?
You only have to put up with it during working hours.
I'm stuck with it all day.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:33, Reply)

I really rather like this

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:35, Reply)

I don't

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:36, Reply)

Good call on all these points
£4 for a pint is a fucking disgrace. No wonder pubs are shutting
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:33, Reply)

£5 a pint is a disgrace

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:34, Reply)

*disgraced fives*

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:35, Reply)

I was stung for £5.30 a week ago.
FIVE POUNDS THIRTY
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:38, Reply)

Ouch
You can buy 8 cans for that. How does that work?
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:40, Reply)

Like this: you buy eight cans.
The pub goes bust and your consumption goes through the roof. NICE 1!!!
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:43, Reply)

\o/

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:44, Reply)

Five quid a pint?
You lot must live somewhere fucking shit.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:40, Reply)

Alright Spiderman we can't all live in a sodden, God-cursed bogland.
Some of us have to live in the most vibrant, diverse and exciting city on earth. It's a cross we have to bear.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:42, Reply)

shit yeah Levenshulme

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:44, Reply)

I thought it was the smoking ban that killed pubs?

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:35, Reply)

I know that video killed the radio star
Does that help?
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:35, Reply)

A Rolling Stones track
brought it back
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:37, Reply)

yeah, I just don't care, soz

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:35, Reply)

Is that because you're banned from all pubs in a ten mile radius of your house
for standing at the bar, dribbling, with a stinking shit in your joggers and a pair of National Health glasses held together with a plaster - or is it because you're not allowed booze on your spackerpills?

Or c) something else?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:40, Reply)

no, it's because I haven't touched alcohol in nearly 9 years

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:42, Reply)

Why is that?

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:43, Reply)

I had a choice, drink myself to death or stop entirely

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:45, Reply)

Blimey
I was hoping scarpe might be "in" on this thread. Please tell the group more
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:46, Reply)

binge drinker all my life, realised it had got out of hand, stopped
that's all folks
(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:47, Reply)

Fair enough

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:47, Reply)

although I did jump out of a moving taxi and land in a puddle of mud on a building site before I made the decision to maybe curtail my drinking a little

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:59, Reply)

oh yeah, and the waking up in an ambulance with alcoholic poisoning, that was a major contributory factor

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:00, Reply)

once you've had a paramedic sit on your chest to stop you convulsing and ripped all the muscles in your back, you start to wonder if vodka and red bull is really the drink for you

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:01, Reply)

Lightweight

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:03, Reply)

he did say if they'd have got there 10 minutes later I'd have been dead
not like I didn't put the effort in
(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:06, Reply)

Do you think if there was minimum pricing in it would have effected your drinking?

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:06, Reply)

affected

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:10, Reply)

no, because I could afford it
and hardened alcoholics will go without food to have a drink
(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:10, Reply)

My brother is halfway to doing just that

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:46, Reply)

well he won't stop unless he wants to
problem with booze it's it's socially acceptable, cheap and in the short term, quite effective in anaesthatising depression
(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:48, Reply)

that's three problems

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:50, Reply)

shut up Frank

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:50, Reply)

He really, really doesn't want to and would have such a hole in his life if he did it might actually be worse.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:50, Reply)

alcoholics are the most selfish addicts
they see it wrecking their lives and the lives of their families and they just get wankered again until the problem goes away
(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:52, Reply)

But the problem DOES go away, right?

( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:57, Reply)

You have to drink an awful lot before it does.
But yeah, I'm sure it will eventually.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:58, Reply)

Phew, well that's a relief

( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:01, Reply)

it's like that thing where you're in a car travelling at the speed of light and you switch the headlights on
probably
(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:58, Reply)

Yes, I imagine it's exactly like that

( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:02, Reply)

pr­ick

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:03, Reply)

Oh Frank
What are a couple of lads-about-town like us doing in a place like this, eh?
( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:13, Reply)

dunno, I thought it was a fat chick dating site, glad I didn't pay for full membership tbh

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:15, Reply)

You're thinking of Sickidates

( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:15, Reply)

Meet like-minded people for dates
From the people that brought you the horrifically racist and generally unfunny site, Sickipedia™
( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:17, Reply)

sickipedia is just an embarrassing puddle of tramp wank

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:18, Reply)

bored now, going Outside, imagine that

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:19, Reply)

( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:42, Reply)

Well imagine looking for romance in such a place
That thought is nothing short of harrowing
( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:20, Reply)

Man you are like well gay?
Everyone knows drinking 'til you're sick and act like a helmet is COOL.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:44, Reply)

I once got a crab so drunk it walked forwards

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:45, Reply)

someone gave me a bottle of wine a couple of weeks ago
it was a thank you present so I accepted it to avoid looking like an ungrateful cunt

then I poured it down the sink

the desire to get drunk is still there, I just have the willpower not to
(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:46, Reply)

Couldn't you have used it for cooking ?
Like on a bowl of frosties.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:51, Reply)

I won't lie, it smelt like God had cried into the bottle
but it had to go down the drain, for the sake of my sanity
(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:53, Reply)

*weeps*

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:55, Reply)

Have you ever fallen off or did you just stop and have never gone back?
Feel free to tell me it's none of my business but I have a vested interest in learning about this shit.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:02, Reply)

I stopped dead
and I've resisted temptation so far

if you want to chat in depth about stuff then GAZ me
(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:04, Reply)

stupid idea, alcohol problems are caused by deep social and cultural factors and problems
a small price increase won't makea significant difference
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:36, Reply)

Fuck you with your logical and well thought out reply.
*windmills*
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:43, Reply)

You seem to be looking in the wrong places
This is the main topic of vital importance today

www.bbc.co.uk/nature/21747494
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:39, Reply)

That gives me the horn

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:40, Reply)

Who the fuck gives a shit about the drag in flight
I mean FUCKING HELL WHY?
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:42, Reply)

dragon flight?!
*runs for cover*
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:42, Reply)

But a couple of people on £40-£80k a year and with subsidised booze at their work place
think it's the only way stop people dying!!!
(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:45, Reply)

Yeah', but addiction only effects the extremely poor or the extremely rich.
MPs and their like can't get addicted, or even take to excess, on account of "ohmegawd it doesn't even count anywayz 'cus I ain't like dat".
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:58, Reply)

Good point

( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:47, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1896638
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:47, Reply)

*restrains*
*kisses passionately*
( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:48, Reply)

IMO a combination of things is killing pubs
Culture change - back in the day a pub was where the working man went after work for a drink with his mates. My grandmother, for example, would never have been seen dead in a pub. People's working lives are different now, more shift work etc.
Supermarkets selling alcohol- should be stopped. Pubs and off licences only.
Greedy pubcos forcing landlords to sell more beer than is in the barrel, charging extortionate rents, etc.
SOFT DRINK prices - how the shuddering fuck does a dutyless pint of Coke made from tap water and concentrate cost nearly as much as a pint of beer? Way to encourage not drinking and driving, too.
Smoking ban - to some extent.

I love pubs, and beer, and it's sad to see some go.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:48, Reply)

Your grandmother wouldn't be seen dead in a pub because she used to strip in them
and didn't want to be recognised.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:49, Reply)

No one seems to mention that an awful lot of pubs are shit and full of cunts.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:49, Reply)

/MK

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:51, Reply)

Yeah, go drinking in Camden

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:52, Reply)

Nah you're alright thanks
Wilf might be there
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:53, Reply)

Don't forget Emvee and Vagabond

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:54, Reply)

*tries to*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:00, Reply)

They're rarely 'full' of cunts these days.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:51, Reply)

This is exactly why our local shut
full of scumbags and druggies, but unfortunately they were the only people with the spare time, money and inclination to spend a lot of time in there.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:53, Reply)

Isn't the problem that 'scumbags and druggies' don't have the money to spend there.
If the landlord had kicked out all the scrotes and done something to make his pub more appealing to nicer people with money, it might not have closed.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:55, Reply)

Indeed.
They did try a bit (good food deals etc) but the place really needs a full refurb, which they didn't have the cash for.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:06, Reply)

Even Tesco?
b3ta.com/search/answers?q=tesco+brewdog
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:53, Reply)

I tried that double IPA because of the talk of it on here.
It gave me a massive hangover. Stupid 9% beer.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:55, Reply)

It's all Lokesy's fault.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:57, Reply)

You're supposed to savour it, not guzzle it.

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:08, Reply)

Especially Tesco
local offy should be able to stock anything there's a demand for. Plus there's a specialist beer shop in town.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:57, Reply)

If Tesco didn't exist that beer would never have been made.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:00, Reply)

He he
I get this
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:01, Reply)

Cobblers
It was made before, they just changed the name for some reason, the brewery calls it Hardcore IPA.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:02, Reply)

I like Pints





Wait or was it Breasts?
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:50, Reply)

it was pints

(King Zog of Albania lives in Kensington, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:16, Reply)

I'm pretty sure I also like breasts

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:31, Reply)

Well I'M not going to stop drinking or going to pubs.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:51, Reply)

*ferocious high-fives*

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:54, Reply)

Me neither
just won't do it as often.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:55, Reply)

Minimum pricing of alcohol won't really affect me, as it is rare that what I drink cost less than 45p/unit.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:57, Reply)

True
Cheap beer is generally shite, although pretty good stuff can be got 3-4 bottles for £5 in our local off licence.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:00, Reply)

Bollocks.
24 can crates will be at least £35 you never see that even on premium lagers.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:01, Reply)

I never buy 24 can crates of premium lager.
The beer I buy roughly has an average of 2.5 units per bottle.
I'd be more than willing for the price to drop to £1.13/bottle.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:04, Reply)

Gay

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:05, Reply)

But what do you take to bbqs????

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:05, Reply)

A bag of weed.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:06, Reply)

some yoghurt and a 'meat is murder' placard

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:07, Reply)

You've got to win over hearts and minds, see?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:08, Reply)

No, I don't, soz.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:11, Reply)

Haloumi and his own tongs

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:09, Reply)

hahaha

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:11, Reply)

I think I've seen that band.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:12, Reply)

And his own barbecue

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:16, Reply)

Horse burgers.

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:07, Reply)

Your maths is fucking shocking.
That would make a 24 crate of Fosters/Carling about £19 and a 24 crate of Stella about £24.

Or, about exactly what it costs unless its on offer.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:12, Reply)

I'm a bit scared of questioning your massive scientific brain, but I worked it out as:
Stella = 5%
5x £0.45 = £2.25
24x £2.25 = £54
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:16, Reply)

5% doesn't mean 5 units...

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:17, Reply)

You are absolutely correct and I feel such a fool now.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:18, Reply)

Prick

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:18, Reply)

It's priced per unit.
A can of fosters (440mL) is 1.8 units, a can of Stella 2.3

So, for a slab, either 1.8x0.45x24=£19.44 or 2.3x0.45x24=£24.84.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:18, Reply)

Yes, I knew I was wrong to question you.
I'll try to pay proper attention next time.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:20, Reply)

No, you were right to question me.
always question, tangles. I'm usually talking shit. you were just unlucky this time. even a stopped clock is right twice a day etc etc
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:20, Reply)

I was using this
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21766309
But when it said "strong lager" I though it meant 5.2%ish rather than the 7.9% special brew it's mentioned.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:17, Reply)

Ah, right you are.
Yeah, a slab of spesh is gonna be about £35.

But frankly, if you're drinking that ol' purple tin you've got much bigger problems than the cost, my friend.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:20, Reply)

Never even tried it to be honest.
Most the beer I drink is homebrew so it doesn't matter to me. My main problem is that the government has got more important things to do.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:22, Reply)

They're being told by the NHS to do it
It's a shower of bollocks, but at least they are listening to someone other than themselves and Eton bankers for once.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:24, Reply)

Only because they wrongly think that it could save them some money and make the NHS budget cuts less crippling.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:25, Reply)

I agree it's arsegravy of the highest order
but listening to someone they should listen to is a tiny bit of progress.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:27, Reply)

Special Brew in bottles, super-ice cold, is actually nice, THERE I'VE SAID IT

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:32, Reply)

It's better than Tennants Super
in the same way that losing a leg to a shark is marginally better than losing a leg to a crocodile.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:33, Reply)

A bottle of spirits should be a minimum of £12.60 at 45p per unit.
That seems cheap to me.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:04, Reply)

I bet the quality spirits would go up as well though

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:06, Reply)

That's just not fair.
Buckfast should go up, not Oban.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:09, Reply)

They would put the price up to maintain a distance between their brand and the povvo slop.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:11, Reply)

Check the prices of spirits in supermarkets
they've gone up a lot in the last year, just in preparation for minimum pricing. Only the Frosty Jacks conniseurs are going to notice.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:14, Reply)

why should I be punished for wanting a nice g &t just because some fuckers can't control themselves

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:20, Reply)

Because you're a cunt.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:22, Reply)

is that governmental policy?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:24, Reply)

Unfortunately not.
Current government policy is to look after cunts like you.
Hence the u-turn.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:25, Reply)

Don't see why, Nakkers just votes for whoever is on the top of the form.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:26, Reply)

Nah, he looks for the name he recognises from his alma mater.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:27, Reply)

I ain't votin for no Northern "Red Head"

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:29, Reply)

There goes swipe's political career.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:30, Reply)

lolz

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:34, Reply)

He's been voting for 'BALLOT FORM' for the past three elections.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:30, Reply)

The only thing I've noticed
is that it's making proper expensive gin on offer seem like a better deal. £25 for a bottle of Sipsmith? Well, if you want £17 for fucking Gordons then let's have it.

Also, someone in the last couple of years has started pricing Plymouth gin as a premium brand, which makes me moneysad.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:23, Reply)

I like Plymouth gin.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:24, Reply)

So do I, but it's twenty fucking sheets in Tesco now.
£20! I can get Tanqueray for that.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:25, Reply)

It's too coarse for my refined palate.
Tanqueray 10 for me.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:29, Reply)

I thought you'd be a Hendricks man

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:32, Reply)

oh v good

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:38, Reply)

Oh, I say.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:39, Reply)

*breaks rib laughing*

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:32, Reply)

I can really imagine someone who's got a WHO registered illness known as alcohol addiction, who is shaking with anxiety where everything including time itself is irritating, is going to go "£1.56 a pint ?!!?!?! Fuck that.".

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:09, Reply)

'not for me, I think I'll go to a musem'

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:10, Reply)

You can do both at the same time, you know.
_{with apologies to The Museum of London for that one time}
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:29, Reply)

Shop keepers and publicans should simply look at the person they are serving and dtermine the price
if they are a ruddy nosed tramp, wack up the price, if they are a gel haired townie asking for a round of alcopops, wack up the price, however if it's a nice middle class person having a couple of bottle of wine with their supper then make it nice and cheap.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:19, Reply)

Isn't the reason they are planning a U-turn precisely because it is the burgeoning group of middle-class alkies?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:21, Reply)

maybe, they tend not to go out fighting at least
just the cost of healthcare that's an issue and lets be honest, they've paid for that more than some fat diabetic waster from the council estate
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:22, Reply)

Why do people get pissy when they come into work and I'm not all
"GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE YOU? DID YOU HAVE A LOVELY EVENING, MY IT'S SO WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU"

When I'm both busy and don't actually like them all that much. They're work colleagues. Sit down, shut up, do your work, fuck off and then die. Thanks.

As for the rest of this thread, petrol prices and alcohol will go up and up and up not because the government are trying to save us from ourselves, but because they think they can get more money off a captive market.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:25, Reply)

becuase you said "Sit down, shut up, do your work, fuck off and then die. Thanks" outloud?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:26, Reply)

Or merely have a face that makes it abundantly clear that is what you are thinking without you having to utter a word?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:28, Reply)

This is a curse many of us have to bear.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:29, Reply)

This is a bear many of us have to curse

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:36, Reply)

Wot a cunt.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:40, Reply)

This is precisely my problem.
I am incapable of restraining my expression or, in fact, the tone of my voice.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:31, Reply)

Me too, old chap. It's one of the reasons my boss hates me.
My contempt for him is writ LARGE on my face whenever I have to talk to the repulsive little turd.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:37, Reply)

"Asseyez-vous, taisez-vous, faites votre travail, allez vous faire foutre et puis mourir. Merci"
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:28, Reply)

have they not done this in Scotland already?
It's just another way to increase tax revenue and will make no difference to consumption levels. If they really wanted to tackle problem boozing, they'd implement the Scandinavian model.

The pricks.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:27, Reply)

They can't get it past Europe and it's almost certainly outside of the scottish parliments remit.
And may even be against the act of union, something to do with the free flow of goods between scotland and england.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:29, Reply)

no, the Scots parliament were definitely talking about minimum pricing.
It received Royal Assent last year apparently.

www.scottish.parliament.uk/parliamentarybusiness/Bills/43354.aspx
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:31, Reply)

The Scots seem to have a funny idea of what they can and can't do at the moment, though.
Like declaring independence and staying within the EU, for one thing.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:33, Reply)

well they're pissed all day ain't they

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:34, Reply)

Salmond and his top ministers will all be dead
from fried Mars Bar induced coronaries before they ever see the referendum.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:36, Reply)

indeed.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:36, Reply)

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-20526338
(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:33, Reply)

so they were considering it.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:37, Reply)

It's been through parliament and everything.
My missus' last bill was postponed by six months because they were only allowed on health bill reading per session and minimum pricing was the chosen one.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:38, Reply)

is your missus an MSP?

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:54, Reply)

No she is a pelican

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 12:04, Reply)

They were talking about it.
They can't legally do it.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:34, Reply)

that won't stop Salmond trying.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:37, Reply)

to stick his cock up his own arse?
that is some mental picture
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:48, Reply)

Bit like you and sticking your cock up your arse, then.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:38, Reply)

I'd like to 'implement' a Scandinavian model IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN AND I THINK YOU DO

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:33, Reply)

I THINK YOU MEAN YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THE NUDEY RUDEYS

( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:34, Reply)

YOU HAVE IT PRECISELY

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:34, Reply)

Yeah,
The Scandinavian model works fucking BRIALLIANTLY in Finland, for instance.

/It is actually an aspect of the Scandinavian model they are trying to implement, namely making booze more expensive than gold. But the socioeconomic reasons for lower alcohol abuse in Sweden and Norway are way more complicated than only being able to buy booze between midday and 3pm on weekdays.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:36, Reply)

They're not a bunch of socially conditioned piss-heads
who're only ever a stone's throw from alcohol-influenced violence the way us islanders are.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:38, Reply)

In Iceland they are fucking nuts.
They don't have a violence problem but people routinely freeze to death having passed out in the street going home.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:39, Reply)

*crosses fingers for Bjork*

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:41, Reply)

Have you ever been out drinking with Finns or in Finland?
Fucking hell. You'd be amazed.

The biggest problem we have with alcohol in this country is crippling levels of self-loathing and critiscm. We aren't a nation of out-of-control psycopathic pissheads who are all going to die either bleeding out on a street corner or aged 30 of cirrhosis. But because the Daily Mail tells us we are, we believe them.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:42, Reply)

Also, they pretty much are
it's just Scandanavians are socially conditioned to get ruined in their own houses, so it's not public.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:43, Reply)

'cos its cold outside

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:43, Reply)

Too cold to go out innit

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:44, Reply)

because ANDREW MARR

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:44, Reply)

Also, the Finns are heavily armed which is not a good combo.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:43, Reply)

They are terrifying to go drinking with, especially in Tallinn.
I've had to erase whole days from my mind just so I can sleep at nights. Luckily, drinking with Finns in Tallinn can erase whole months from your mind, so that's OK.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:45, Reply)

win/win

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:46, Reply)

or is that lose/lose?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:46, Reply)

both
simulateously.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:51, Reply)

Actually no, do they get fighty?
We're kind of known for being drunk and starting fights in Europe. The English, Scots and Irish, anyway. Not the Welsh. Nobody ever gives a shit about the Welsh. From personal experience though, they're every bit as bad.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:44, Reply)

Because they seldom leave Wales cos they can't afford to.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:46, Reply)

Are we really, do you think?
Because we are considered culturally uncouth, I grant you. But a lot of violence is football based, and in that we are fucking amateurs compared to the Dutch, Germans and Eastern Europeans. Hell, we'd struggle to get past the Italians in a dust-up, and most Europeans know that.

There are issues with some of the Spanish and Greek holiday resorts, I know, but that's not entirely brits (the Germans again are textbook) but I wouldn't go as far as to say that's how we are all judged.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:49, Reply)

I knew a guy in the RN. He was docked in Antigua, where the RN and American navy regularly dock.
He said there was a sign on the bar there saying "Attn American service personnel. Please do not try to out-drink or out-fight the British".

I know, anecdotal evidence etc, but it's always stuck in my mind.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:51, Reply)

I think we have the same level of drunk, violent, fighty twats as any other Northern European country
Ours are just a bit more vocal, a bit more stupid and then we have a fuckton more handwringing from our press.

There's plenty of anecdotes and personal experiences but they are all just isolated. I was on a train out of Munich full of Bayern fans that was deliberately stopped at a deserted station so that 1860 fans could storm and kick the absolute fucking shit out of them. That was pretty much the most terrifying thing I've seen. And I've been in Millwall when they've played Leeds. Doesn't mean I think all Germans are psycho.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:56, Reply)

And no, not particualarly fighty
but I thought we were talking about alcohol abuse and danger? The Finns just get cunted and start plying Russian Roulette with each other, that kind of thing.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:50, Reply)

cabin fever innit

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:51, Reply)

Well I for one have greatly enjoyed this thread.
But can we have a new one please?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:51, Reply)

done
you ignoramus you x
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:52, Reply)

Awaits a Chompy thread to appear at the same time

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:56, Reply)

Surely announcing a consultation on policy
finding the results of that consultation indicate it's a bad idea and therefore dropping it are not BAD LEADERSHIP, A U-TURN, A HUMILIATING CLIMBDOWN but in fact sensible leadership that we should have fucking more of?
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 11:09, Reply)

Labour aren't going to bust Tory chops
by saying "yeah, fair enough, chaps".
( Kroney, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 11:11, Reply)