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saw this campaign on the spangly new tube screens, and one had a sideways blue screen of death

tasty says 'buy a mac!'

(tasty, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:06, archived)

APOSTROPHE CRIME

DIE HERETIC!

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MontyyouterribleCUNT I gave Jeremy Kyle cancer, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:07, archived)

Actually

There's a strong argument to suggest that using an apostrophe to pluralise is acceptable usage if you're pluralising a number of an abbreviation, such as 90's or TV's.

www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutspelling/pizza?view=uk

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Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:27, archived)

There are an equal number of links in google for and against this argument.

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Barbarossa is not my real name, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:32, archived)

Yep

Which is why I said 'a strong argument' and didn't assert that either was right :) Point is, while I sympathise with people's shock and horror at the misuse of apostrophes it's best not to try picking someone up about it in this particular case.

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Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:37, archived)

Its

It's

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Bee Nice |-|, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:38, archived)

It's it's and its, not its and it's you fool!

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Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:40, archived)

Oh dear.

I thought Monty's cry was about the omitted apostrophe in
"Basically — Its Shit!"
But you're probably right that he was raging over a greengrocer's apostrophe.

Gaah! Should that be "greengrocers' apostrophe"?
*asplodes*

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Bee Nice |-|, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:54, archived)

No, it should be

gre'eng'roc'er's' ap'ost'rop'hie

(Mr._Pickles, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 13:20, archived)

So look at the last line and you'll see where you've failed here.

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@><|= w0nu!) or cunt to my friends, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:59, archived)

What would the possessive of this product be?

www.itsiticecream.com/

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tubaman, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 17:18, archived)

*Picks a team and argues till blue in face*

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The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:07, archived)

Vic 20 ftw

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Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:08, archived)

Acorn electron is BETTERER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:10, archived)

acorn electron was all of awesome

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doph no time like the precedent, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:16, archived)

Wish I hadn't sold my c64

had a 1541 mkII 5.25 drive and everything

(tasty, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:11, archived)

BBC B Micro with Chuckie Egg & Way Of The Exploding Fist FTW!

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Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:12, archived)

chuckie egg!

*downloads emulator* (for pc because macs are shit)

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:14, archived)

*gets a mac

then runs a pc emulator
then runds bbc micro emulator on pc emulator*

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doph no time like the precedent, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:19, archived)

I'm using windows right now

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mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:07, archived)

I bet they're all steamy

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Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:08, archived)

You bet'cha baybeeee

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mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:09, archived)

*Splashes soapy water and wipes down with rubber squeegee*

that'll be £10 guvnor....

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The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:09, archived)

5 szlotis okay?

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mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:10, archived)

Sounds close enough to sausage....

So YES

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The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:10, archived)

you can have my sausage

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:16, archived)

lol

Macs... Good one

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crazygibbon all your monster munch are belong to us, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:08, archived)

PC: cheap and easy to use

Macs: expensive and pretty

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER

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Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:10, archived)

indeed

but I'd rather have a computer (pc) than a fisher price toy (mac). Mainly because I am a programmer and macs are shit for that kind of thing

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:12, archived)

Care to elaborate on shit?

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:15, archived)

can't play decent games on them

can't do my programming on them
can't upgrade them

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:16, archived)

Why can't you do your programming on them?

Oh, because you're programming for PCs. Gotcha.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:22, archived)

yes

for real people in the real world... also do you hate Linux? That runs on a PC and a MAC - oh wait that's because all MACs are now basically PCs

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:24, archived)

Well I think

old macs were cute, but my own experience of macs - owning them for myself, I mean - lasted from about 95 to 2000, which was roughly the time period during which macs were at their most shitty (PowerPCs, badly made by non-apple companies). I should have had one before that. Sometimes I run an OS7 emulator and draw something in macpaint or play an old game just because it feels nice.
A company with complete creative control over its hardware is kind of cool, but vulnerable to mass complaints over the same hardware defect, whenever there is one.
New macs, i.e. everything after OSX, are probably fun, and I wish I had one to play with.
It's excellent that you can build your own PC from generic second-hand bits.
I keep meaning to try linux.
The real world is overrated.

Those are the things that I think.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:36, archived)

In 'microsoft c++' apparently (Visual C++? the IDE)

Oddly, I can't program in Objective-C on my XP machine, either...

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The Alchemist king of the needlessly complicated, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:24, archived)

Yeh in

MS Visual Studio 2008. Am starting to go back into the dark world of directx.

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:30, archived)

Hahaha. Lolwhat?

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The Alchemist king of the needlessly complicated, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:18, archived)

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..wil, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:10, archived)

not only apple's

(k3b/-\b Peace man., Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:11, archived)

Yeh I know, but y'know, this WAS their advertising campaign...

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..wil, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:12, archived)

true.

(k3b/-\b Peace man., Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:13, archived)

there's nothing wrong with the architecture of a pc.

now that apple have gone for intel chips, it's effectively the same. So be sensible: go and by a decent laptop and put linux on it.

cheap.

(k3b/-\b Peace man., Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:10, archived)

All it is is

I'm a pissy
I'm a pissy
I'm a pissy
I'm a pissy
I'm a pissy
I'm a pissy
I'm a pissy
I'm a pissy
I'm a pissy

over and over and over...

not your image, the advert.

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Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:10, archived)

PCs are kickass

Windows is a great OS

Get with the times - we're not on windows 98 any more

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:11, archived)

are you serious or just trolling for a bite?

(k3b/-\b Peace man., Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:11, archived)

XP is actually a great operating system.

It's gone a bit tits-up again with vista though.

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Barbarossa is not my real name, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:13, archived)

no.

(k3b/-\b Peace man., Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:13, archived)

I've been pleasantly surprised by vista

I thought it was gonna be cobblers, but once you've diasabled all the bells and whistles it's gos like a dream

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Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:20, archived)

Once you've ~~disabled all the bells and whistles~~ turned it back into something resembling XP?

Yeah, that's what I had to do :¬/

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Barbarossa is not my real name, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:22, archived)

good point

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Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:23, archived)

serious

I've never had a single crash of BSOD since about 2001. I can upgrade my machine, play games and do my programming.

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:13, archived)

vb script is just such a damn fine language.

(k3b/-\b Peace man., Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:15, archived)

MS C++

ftw

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:17, archived)

but vista.

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doph no time like the precedent, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:12, archived)

^this

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Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:13, archived)

Vista is great

I see 0 reason why people don't like it apart from their fear of change

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:15, archived)

it's the FUCKING MASSIVE ICONS that put me off

which you can no doubt change somewhere, but I ran screaming back to my cave instead

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Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:17, archived)

I don't like it because there's too much fannying around which slows the whole system down

and there's way too much security that out-of-the-box your machine is basically crippled and you have to switch most of it off to get going properly.

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Barbarossa is not my real name, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:19, archived)

because you know how though

if you were an average user the UAC would stop you raping your pc :)

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:22, archived)

There was that article I read when Vista was new

about tilt bits that disable your cards and peripherals if Vista gets the slightest notion that you might be trying to copy a hi-def DVD, and the resulting increase in the price of third-party hardware due to companies having to accommodate these paranoid specifications, which compete for space with technology of use to the owner of the computer, and about every internal bit of data being encrypted - wasting the power of the machine - just in case you're so determined to copy hi-def DVDs that you decide to open up the computer and tap into a bus or something. Maybe that was all a myth?

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:21, archived)

myth

I have a blue-ray reader and it still works fine with all my "backup" versions of films :)

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SiX and his hat, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:27, archived)

Probably there were various ways round it by buying bits of hardware they hadn't thought of

by the sound of it it only extended to things that physically fitted inside the PC, and monitors. It still sounds pointlessly crippled - even if you can buy such a whizzy machine that you don't notice. It just sounds unfair. And affects linux users too, since they pay for and use the same hardware.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:50, archived)

i'm going to play some videogames now.

have fun photoshopping.

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Mr. Johnson, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:11, archived)

classic advertising slyness

make previously indifferent people split into groups and justify their spending hundreds of pounds on stuff with a particular operating system. Does michael soft need moral support? i'm sure they're really hard up...

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doph no time like the precedent, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:11, archived)

there's nothing wrong with windows and I've never had any problem with vista

and people who bitch about mac or pc REALLY need a fucking life.

They are both good.

the end.

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:13, archived)

the technological revolution was just something that happened to other people wasn't it?

(k3b/-\b Peace man., Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:14, archived)

I don't know what you're on about

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:18, archived)

it was philosophical. if nothing was ever compared nothing would ever be better

and we'd all still be in the swamps belting each other with sticks...

i'm one of the people that just bites on an operating system debate.

(k3b/-\b Peace man., Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:22, archived)

I don't really care what op system is better

as long as the job gets done :)

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:28, archived)

We have two PCs rather than Macs

because we can do all the arty things we need to on PCs (I am assured of this by my resident graphic design wife) and they're not as expensive. I'm not *against* macs, just the price of being a poser, as a lot of people who have them seem to be.

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Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:19, archived)

aye

I've always done all my arty stuff on a PC

the last time I used a Mac was in 1994, when I wrote my dissertation on one

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Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:22, archived)

They weird me out. I'm too Windows-based.

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Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:24, archived)

I actually don't think there's much difference between mac and pc graphic design wise.

laptop wise I think mac pwns windows..

I just haven't seen a fast laptop which was running windows yet..really slow for some reason

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:24, archived)

Mine's fucking slow, but I think that's probably my fault.

I'm not too good at technical stuff.

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Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Mon 8 Dec 2008, 11:25, archived)