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This is a link post Adam&Ants. Kennedy, died 22 Nov 1963
No more playing with Monroe.
Music, no video, 1979, we couldn't afford them.
From the album Dirk Wears White Sox.
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This is a link post Rycloidal Dotor Crone
It's not very good really
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This is a normal post It was worth making a prototype though, just to see how it's a bad idea.
I wonder if you could cam the blades in such a way as to make them flap like animal wings on the downstroke and be vertical on the upstroke; that way they would only be useless 25% of the time.
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This is a link post An all-time great Accidental Partridge!


(I helped save b3ta! Ambegris likes his tea stirred anti-clockwise, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 23:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't think this one was 100% Accidental

(I helped save b3ta! ousgg is not seeking approval, Mon 22 Nov 2021, 17:57, , Reply)
This is a link post Can Lego BREAK an Aluminium Beam?

(razzle, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 20:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post If it can, then jet fuel can definitely melt steel beams.

(Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 20:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post Why do you need to know?

(Mehitabel_Itrang, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 22:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't know. Can it?

(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Mon 22 Nov 2021, 2:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post yes

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This is a link post Those VFX guys and that Ghost-town guy
3d scanning the old mining town for posterity.
(I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 18:02, , Reply)
This is a link post Phone call to the Moon
This came up in conversation below. I think it deserves an outing.

Nixon called Apollo 11 from the Oval office, July 20, 1969.

Further reading... he had a speech prepared for in case the mission failed.
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This is a normal post
youtube.com/watch?v=jL8AgEzg5fI

(Guiltily love this tune...)
 (I helped save b3ta! Happosai _,,,,_(O ; o)_,,,, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 22:38, , Reply)
This is a link post I want my money back
Not a boob to be seen and if ever anything looked and sounded like an OAP Christmas outing its this.

Very difficult wank, 2 out of 10.
(I helped save b3ta! TBL I posted this on, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 13:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post I wouldn't usually comment
but having Christmas decorations up before December should be punishable by death.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb homonecrobatrachophile, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 15:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post where is Nessie when you need it?

(I helped save b3ta! Woodkovsky ☹️➝🚻➝🚽➝😣➝💩➝🧻➝😁, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 16:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post Christness shopping

(Mehitabel_Itrang, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 21:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^

(Sherbs, Mon 22 Nov 2021, 20:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post I thought that it said cringe on his forehead

(Sherbs, Mon 22 Nov 2021, 20:20, , Reply)
This is a link post Back when Adult Swim was being creative.
GC, but it's been a while.
(Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 10:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post I posted this at some point.
Love me a bit of [as].
 (I helped save b3ta! brb homonecrobatrachophile, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 15:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post Published 26th October.

(Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 10:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post
...any day now...
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 11:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post
Graham Linehan's Substack -->
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 11:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post round ‘em up, put ‘em in a field and bomb the bastards!

(ozof, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 12:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post Every large enough subsection of humans includes shitheads
Shitheads do shitty things, like pressurising people into stuff they don't want to do with manipulative attacks on their integrity.

I've had more than one gay man call me homophobic for not wanting to fuck them. My wife's had the same from a lesbian.

Whether they're black, white, gay, straight, trans, cis, chiral, isometric or whatever: shitness knows no boundaries.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 15:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah. The reason I posted it is that in 48 hours an internet campaign of 16k was summoned to cancel it.
That’s a lot of shitiness organised in a very small amount of time. Why shouldn’t the article report on what it reports?
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 16:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post That wasn't really what I meant
- I meant that it's not great journalism to say "Bad people are bad" and to include a flawed indication of frequency of the badness without commenting on the methodology of the sampling (a social media survey with 80 respondents is not good practice for any kind of investigation).

As they say on the BBC's More or Less stats programme, "Is that a big number?" and "Where does that number come from?"

For comparison, a survey of over 22 thousand women by Victim Focus found that nearly all responded that they had been subjected to violence, harassment, or rape (over 99 %). There's much more detail in the full report, it's not nice to read.
irp.cdn-website.com/f9ec73a4/files/uploaded/Key-Facts-Document-VAWG-VictimFocus-2021a.pdf

Now, none of this is to say that some trans people aren't trying to coerce lesbians into sex, or that to do so isn't a shit thing to do.

All I'm saying is that the article doesn't attempt to put the numbers into any context, but instead presents these anecdotes as if they were evidence of a normal behaviour.

We don't have the facts to back that up.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 16:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post I know. It really is shitty journalism.
Just the other day I was reading on the BBC website about a car accident with two fatalities. Outrageously the BBC chose not to mention that UK roads are amongst the safest in the world and the odds of being involved in a fatal car crash are vanishingly small. Yet again the BBC had failed to contextualize the story which amounted to a heinous misrepresentation of the facts.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 17:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post Compare that with the journalism they did on Smart Motorways, where they put the rate of incidents per mile into context with the other motorways that still have hard shoulders
Rates of crimes sourced from dubious self-selecting surveys without the supporting context is a very different thing to reporting on an instance of a crime.

But I know you're just being a prick, so I'm going to stop engaging with you.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 18:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post There's no need to be uncivil.
Your argument seems to amount to "nothing to see here, move along." And so I shall.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 18:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not saying there's nothing bad happening, just that in the context of sexual coercion of women, it's a couple of anecdotes out of thousands
Bad people pressure other people into sex, and some of those bad people are trans.
The bad journalism is to present it as if it was a thing that only trans people are doing, which is fucking preposterous.

Frankly, I'd like to leave the whole shitty subject of trans exclusionary propaganda alone, but you brought it up.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 19:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post Women have cervixes. Get over it.

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 19:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post Some women don't have cervixes.
My grandmother didn't. My mate's wife doesn't. Abigail Thorn doesn't. Angelina Jolie, Rosanne Barr, Elizabeth Taylor ...

Get over that.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 21:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post Thing is, smart arse, you can’t have a trachelectomy unless you’ve got a cervix.
Get over this.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 22:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post You started this thread.

(I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Mon 22 Nov 2021, 7:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post I can imagine there are a number of subreddits out there dedicated to resentful pre-op trans woman neckbeards that probably quite easily reach the 16K active user count.
It's not exactly what I'd call a significant public reaction.
The only thing I really take exception to is the BBC's decision to publish a complete non-story like this in the first place. It's practically verging on concern trolling. No reasonable person is going to call somebody transphobic because they don't want to have sexual relations with a transgender/transexual individual. The fact I don't want to have sex with Zachary Quinto doesn't make me a gay basher.

At the end of the day, if you don't want to fuck somebody, you certainly don't owe that person an explanation as to why not. If a simple "no thanks" isn't enough then I'd probably start giving that individual a rather wide berth.
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This is a normal post 16K?
Pfft. I get more hate tweets in my day job in an hour.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 17:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post A high concentration of shitness seems to be in self proclaimed 'activists'.
chiral {:-)

Azeotropic
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sun 21 Nov 2021, 16:36, , Reply)
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LiamNorton.jpg
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 17:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't think it's valid to compare coercive sexual behaviour with being an active campaigner for an issue
- but if you mean the sort of shit who doxes their opponents, or that sort of borderline criminal stalking harassing, then yeah, that sort of shit can fuck off. They're not helping people by doing that.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 17:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post A certain sort of activist has a righteousness that is beyond ordinary concern.
A fair helping of 'L@@K AT ME!!' as well.

When I had more severe health problems I had someone trying to persuade me I had M.E., because they were part of a M.E. group wtf?
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sun 21 Nov 2021, 17:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post LOOK AT M.E.

(Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 17:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post Do I have to?

(Farty Funkhouser, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 18:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post FFS didn't spot that

(I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sun 21 Nov 2021, 18:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post "- but if you mean the sort of shit who doxes their opponents..."
It's weird that this has become the 'go to' for people.
 (Farty Funkhouser, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 18:09, , Reply)
This is a link post Not everyones cup of rosey today but you know Sunday etc etc NSFW I made this!
However the music hear in, must be a right of passage for football teams in recent years, have a nice day!
(Sneak7h1ef television is my religion, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 9:06, , Reply)
This is a link post This channel has been a pleasant surprise.
I expected the usual clickbait with annoying soundtrack but this guy sounds like he really knows his stuff.
(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 2:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post The atmosphere is nature's bin

(tacpprm has a mmrpcat, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 10:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post The solution to pollution is dilution

(I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 17:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post The ocean
is the ultimate solution
 (I helped save b3ta! My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Tue 23 Nov 2021, 1:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post Don't have to load up Twiiter for doom scrolling while you keep the cheery links coming here!

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This is a link post Of course there's a damn Home Alone reboot
Never seen the original. Was there are CGI cat in it?
Home Alone with My Cat (OwlKitty Parody)


 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 22:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ha!
I wasn't sure what to expect. Very good.
 (I helped save b3ta! tarka_dall Like normal dall, only a bit more spicy, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 15:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post I like the pounce at the end

(Sherbs, Mon 22 Nov 2021, 20:41, , Reply)
This is a link post ‘Spirit of Innovation’ stakes claim to be the world’s fastest all-electric vehicle
Looks a bit like a Spitfire!

Video that goes with the press release: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd-RDX1IjuM
Video with some technical specs and whatnot (at the end): www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-rfAifj6cc
‘Spirit of Innovation’ stakes claim to be the world’s fastest all-electric vehicle


 (I helped save b3ta! brb homonecrobatrachophile, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 17:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Jolly good
What’s the endurance?
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 18:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post The Endurance was a 1,155 meter -long Venator -class Star Destroyer with two bridges and a ventral hangar bay. The Star Destroyer was also equipped with a navigation computer, escape craft,
and was armed with DBY-827 heavy turbolaser turrets and medium dual turbolaser cannons.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb homonecrobatrachophile, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 18:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post i think you'll find its the USS Endurance a 24th century Federation starship, a Sovereign-class explorer in Starfleet service

(Mehitabel_Itrang, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 19:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post Au contraire, The Endurance is the interplanetary spacecraft built by NASA as part of Project Endurance. It is the ship that carries Cooper, Amelia, Doyle, Romilly, CASE, and TARS on their voyage through the wormhole to a system located in another galaxy
near the black hole Gargantua.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb homonecrobatrachophile, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 19:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post
"Looks a bit like a Spitfire!"

Well, it's got wings and a propeller.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 18:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post And it's a tail dragger with the pilot sat rather far back
and it has pointed wing tips, otherwise I'd have said it looks a bit like a Hurricane, OBVS.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb homonecrobatrachophile, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 18:48, , Reply)
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The Spitfire? The one where the pilot sits forward, over the famously rounded wings?
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 23:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah, I think it looks a bit like a Spitfire
but that's only because I'm not crippled by aero-pedantic autism.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb homonecrobatrachophile, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 15:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post
Ah. Ad hominem. That means I was right.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 18:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post Which is obviously very important to you. :P

(I helped save b3ta! brb homonecrobatrachophile, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 22:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster is currently faster
www.whereisroadster.com/
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 18:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Aye, but can you start it without your phone?

(Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 20:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post Thalidomide spitfire maybe

(Agent Pr1ck llǝɯs ǝɥʇ sʇI ˙ǝɔɐld sᴉɥʇ ǝʇɐɥ l, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 22:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Flidfire?
Spitflid?
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(I helped save b3ta! brb homonecrobatrachophile, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 17:37, , Reply)
This is a link post Novel egg timer idea I made this!
I may have had too much time on my hands during lockdown...
(jurassicpaul, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 14:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post
I like the idea,
possible improvements, make it smaller and put some sort of bell or noise making thing on it

the falling timer itself could be incorporated into some sort of board game
 (razzle, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 15:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post Good idea
like the idea of building a game around it
 (jurassicpaul, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 16:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah, that’s got legs, you should nab that.
Mousetrap is surely long overdue a reboot.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 23:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post Eggcellent?
Sorry.
 (pahakyy, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 11:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post That looks fascinating
But I'm worried it will undo a lifetime of how I thought it worked and my head will explode.
 (I helped save b3ta! tarka_dall Like normal dall, only a bit more spicy, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 14:52, , Reply)
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I'm already feeling a tad upset at being lied to

next they're going to be saying father xmas is not real
 (razzle, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 15:12, , Reply)
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I sorta respectfully disagree with his postulate, unless I'm misunderstanding something.

If you ran a cable to the Moon, and turned on a light, it'd take about 1.25 seconds to turn on.

We saw that, when Nixon called Apollo. About a 2.5 second delay (there and back). Admittedly, not using a wire - using radio. But the same principle applies. You can't send messages to the Moon and back in less than about 2.5 secs. Easy maths; 300,000 km (ish) at 400,000 kph (ish).

Video of it

{Side note: Flat Earthers often show an edited clip of that, with the delay removed. They also don't understand that a radio can be patched through to a telephone. Y'know... like they did in World War II. FE are unbelievably dumb.}

You can't send information faster than light. That'd break all kinds of stuff.

Yeah, electrons don't "flow", like we're taught. But stuff takes time. That's why GPS works.

I can confirm that Santa is real. I've met him, in Debenhams. He stroked my bottom.
 (SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 17:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post But the whole point of the video is that the information isn’t travelling along the wire.
It’s travelling exactly 1 meter.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 18:25, , Reply)
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exactly, people are taught that it's the electric charge/ electrons that carry energy in electric circuits - not electromagetic radition (EMR)

EMR used for example in the moon call, seems ok based on my teachings - for now!! until some other magic comes along
 (razzle, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 19:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post ELI5
For example, if you have two bulbs in the circuit. One on the Moon.

Battery--->---300k km-----Bulb 1
1m
Bulb 2----<----300k km-------I

Are you saying bulb 2 lights (almost) instantly, but bulb 1 takes 2 secs?

If 1 came on instantly, you'd be able to signal to your mate on the Moon at faster-than-light.
 (SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Mon 22 Nov 2021, 1:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post This is particularly important
in circuit board design. I pay close attention to where the fields are when I design boards, to keep EM interference down.
 (I helped save b3ta! My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 22:05, , Reply)
This is a link post Now I'm not saying all Tesla owner are cunts*, but...
Surely to fuck anybody with a modicum of sense wouldn't rely solely on a fucking smartphone app in order to gain access to and start their vehicle?! Surely to fuck these cars ship with a standalone keyless ignition system that the bloody halfbrains in this article decided they don't need to carry because nothing could ever, ever go wrong with their mobile device? We really are going backwards as a species.

*I've been directly exposed to three Tesla owners that I'm aware of. All of them have been insufferable twunts of the highest order. One of them used to have an electric Hyundai Kona. He was a perfectly affable bloke. Then he got a Tesla and overnight turned into an aloof, haughty twat. He also owns a Range Rover SVR, so his purchase clearly wasn't based on environmental concerns, either. Dickhole.
Tesla drivers left unable to start their cars after outage


 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 8:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post cunts

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This is a normal post you do also get a key
it's a smart card. (credit card size card)
 (L E T S G O "Stop buying into and spreading this shit", Sat 20 Nov 2021, 10:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post So there's really no excuse for these morons being locked out.

(Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 10:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post well you only get one card
so if you share the car, you have an excuse
 (L E T S G O "Stop buying into and spreading this shit", Sat 20 Nov 2021, 10:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post The kind of people that can afford a Tesla can afford not to share a car.

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 0:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post Pretty sure you get two.

(Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 11:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah, that would be a deal breaker for any vehicle
I test drove a Tesla a few months back, though, and the key they gave me was a credit card type thing, like a hotel keycard. Maybe it was just activating the software by RFID?

Also, I noticed that the doors were fully electric - a switch to open, not a mechanical handle. Let's hope that still works when the car is sinking into a canal.

My electric Kona (leased after a lot of research) has a real key to unlock the real lock on the door - but you only need that if your battery is completely dead, and even then it gets you access to the backup battery.

On the other hand, the basic Model 3 out-accelerated every other vehicle I've ever experienced apart from planes. It was kind of scary how fast it went from a standstill to 70 on the motorway slip road.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 10:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post My boss recently picked up an Audi RS e-Tron GT
It's absolutely fucking terrifying. It's not just the acceleration, but the inertia. The thing gets to 124mph in a ballhair over 10 seconds and weighs 2.5 tonnes(!). It wouldn't surprise me if we see a special license designation for these types of vehicles in the near future considering how relatively ubiquitous they'll become.
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 10:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post I drive my Kona around in Eco mode because the Sports mode is too mental for my poor little heart.
I'm old now.

Time was I used to drive my Austin Mini at about 60 on winding single track country roads, for the LOLs. Now that sort of thing makes me shit myself.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sat 20 Nov 2021, 10:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post
You get two keycards and there is a mechanical open-door switch on the inside of each door - for emergencies.
 (sturgeon77, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 17:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post You make a good point......
The two Tesla owners I know also own and drive old Land Rovers of the type that belch more particulates than Stephenson's Rocket.
 (I helped save b3ta! Boot I want to know what you meant, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 2:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post I suspect there's a bit of the Diet Coke effect going on.
"I own an extremely environmentally unfriendly vehicle so owning a second slightly greener vehicle will offset any damage I'm doing." Because clearly, a large, fume belching 4WD vehicle is an absolute necessity for all these people because there's a pothole at the end of the road.
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sun 21 Nov 2021, 10:02, , Reply)

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