OPINION POLL - warning contains talk of children, please feel free to ignore.
My ex just told me she's taking my kid to church this Sunday - this is a ruse (too late anyway I suspect) to get her a place at the Catholic primary school where she's currently doing pre-school.

I have a massive moral objection to the Catholic church in particular. CofE are just amiable and stupid, but I genuinely believe some of the principal tenets of Catholicism are actively bad and I really don't want my daugher to be fed a pack of lies and be left with guilt complexes and other wrong things. The idea that you can be exonerated from anything you've done by repeating some fucking mumbo-jumbo is extremely bad news if you ask me, and don't even get me started on transubstantiation...

BUT - all the non-faith schools in our area are really, really shit and all the kids struggle with English. Which is worse? Having a sub-standard academic training or a better one but being fed a pack of evil lies in exchange? I really am troubled by this.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:41, 227 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

Catholic school turned me into the militant athiest I am today.
Go for it.
Better for someone to learn about the problems with the church within it.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:46, Reply)

That makes me feel a lot better, actually.
They really are cunts, though.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:47, Reply)

Maybe the structures, but to be honest nearly all priests nuns etc are actually nice people
who honestly try to do good.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:48, Reply)

The missus' cousin is a nun of some quite high standing.
She's a lovely person. Although the Irish accent when she's from the North East of England is a bit of a strange one.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:49, Reply)

good kids up the shitter
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:49, Reply)

Probably much less likely in a catholic school than a standard comprehensive now.
Everyone's on the look out for it now.
In comps you get pricky PE teachers fucking the 15 year olds in their cars.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:51, Reply)

*looks into teacher training courses*
EDIT *and driving lessons*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:54, Reply)

She's your daughter, you sick fuck!

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:55, Reply)

'Go with what you know', that's what I was taught*


*by my randy old dad
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:57, Reply)

^ This.
In my limited (known) experience of anyone who went to catholic school, most of them have turned out to be Godless heathens.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:48, Reply)

Oh, and adulterous whores.

( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:50, Reply)

Hook a fella up yo'

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:06, Reply)

She's dead. Sorry Gonz.

( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:07, Reply)

Gosh darn it !

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:09, Reply)

I know a chap educated by Christian Brothers in Ireland,
and his life has practically been ruined by it. He's a fucking mess.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:50, Reply)

Dunno, I found them alright

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:53, Reply)

I think my pal was pretty much tortured.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:55, Reply)

Yeah that's not allowed any more you know.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:57, Reply)

They did enjoy walloping kids with 'the leather'
all character building
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:04, Reply)

ICP?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:53, Reply)

Chelsea football hooligans?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:55, Reply)

IIRC, Chelsea are the Headhunters, the ICF are West Ham
I mean Insane Clown Posse, who recently 'came out' as being 'Christian'.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:58, Reply)

You are right on all points.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:59, Reply)

Woo!

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:03, Reply)

Tell her to play along for her education
Reinforce the benefits of school etc, how much she may not like it. Hopefully she's old enough to know to not believe in god.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:46, Reply)

At 3 and a half she still believes in Father Christmas, fairies etc.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:49, Reply)

That's standard, surely?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:53, Reply)

I thought so.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:53, Reply)

Thank fuck for that, I believed in Santa until I was about 7(?), and was quite worried then

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:54, Reply)

Just checking, didn't know the exact age.
I would rest on Chompys advice - I too was forced to go to Chapel twice a week at school, was Confirmed and sung in Chapel Choir. I turned out a right godfearing cunt.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:58, Reply)

oh come on...
godfearing
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:16, Reply)

I had a Catholic education
Imagine if Len became as awesome as me.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:50, Reply)

*imagines*
*rings 'Shah Jalal Islamic School' and asks if they've any spaces left*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:51, Reply)

if she's intelligent and neither parent is religious (and i'm assuming this is the case)
she'll be fine
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:51, Reply)

oh wait, he? is it he or she?
him?
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:51, Reply)

She, and neither of us is remotely religious.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:51, Reply)

well you tell him to take it with a pinch of salt then, my mrs went to a strict convent school and grew up fine

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:55, Reply)

not that fine if she's going out with you

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:06, Reply)

we're 2 in a million
we got all the love, we could be given
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:18, Reply)

If she starts asking questions about God
just deny everything and run this conversation by her:

"Don't be silly of course there's no God".

"Why's that Daddy?"

"Because if there were, then he wouldn't let Mummy be a total cow to me and she'd let me see you more often".

"Ok then".
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:57, Reply)

Mummy be a total cow to me and let me see you more often

Daddy be a bankrupt drug addict, or me anywhere near you"
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:01, Reply)

oh hai bert

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:16, Reply)

Evil lies, anyday.
My opinion is that you shouldn't make your mind up on whether you believe there is a God or not before you actually know both sides. I'm closer to atheist than I am to theist, but I'm still going to send my kids to Sunday School.

At best, they'll decide it's not for them, but make friends anyway, and enjoy themselves. At worst, they'll become happy clappers, but I can soon slap that out of them.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:51, Reply)

Sunday School?
Sundays are for hangovers and lazy wank-full days in bed.

All kids know that.
(TheColonel, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:56, Reply)

And why else would I be sending my kids out of the house on Sundays?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:59, Reply)

But it's the best way to bond.

(TheColonel, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:00, Reply)

I use No More Nails for stuff like that

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:01, Reply)

Easily the Catholic school.
I went to a Catholic school, and was an altar boy for several years. Unfortunately I didn't get bummed by a priest, no matter how hard I tried; no matter how high I wore my cassock or even when I used to pour holy water all over the chest of my white robes.
As soon as I started to think for myself I began to question Catholicism and religion as a whole and am now not religious in the slightest. I don't believe children should be taught religion as a fact; they should be given the option once they are mature enough to consider both sides of an argument.
A good education is a priority. As she grows up you can advise her and help her to see that it's good to question what you are taught.
(TheColonel, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:54, Reply)

Loads of people I know went to Catholic school just for the education.
My super-brilliant MBE landlady went to one as a child even though her family were muslim. It even managed to turn HER heathen.
You'll always get a few nuts, like in my school, but I think it's down to family more than what they get fed in school.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 13:58, Reply)

LEAVE JAMIE OLIVER ALONE

(TheColonel, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:01, Reply)

Never!

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:02, Reply)

Your landlady is a Member of the British Empire?
Impressive.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:18, Reply)

Have you had a look at the school's website to see
if it goes into any detail about how much religion is in the syllabus?

I'd let her go for the standard of education she will receive. You can tell her it's all made up later.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:00, Reply)

I caught her crossing herself before Christmas.
It made me feel quite sick.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:01, Reply)

You must resist the temptation to say
Spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:11, Reply)

I told my kids that one the other day
Pair of them nearly pissed themselves.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:50, Reply)

That's a bit much.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:13, Reply)

Catholics are the worst kind of cunts, who will fill her head with all kinds of nonsense
I can only offer you advice which you have given previously to me:
punch her in the cunt (your ex, not your daughter)
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:00, Reply)

Both my youngest sister and my nephew were baptized into the Catholic faith purely to get them into good schools.
They are both neither religious nor riddled with complexes.

Don't sweat it.
( girlinthehole, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:02, Reply)

"Where baptized"?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:04, Reply)

"there on the font"

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:05, Reply)

I was more offended about the 'Z' at first, then I noticed the word before it.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:08, Reply)

That's another thing I've a problem with.
I don't like the idea of lying to the school. Hardly a good example for my kid when she's older, is it? 'Oh, your mother and I defrauded a school, dear. It's OK though, it was in your interests'....
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:04, Reply)

They're Catholics, they're not even real people!

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:05, Reply)

They're a made up drug.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:05, Reply)

They smell like hammers.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:08, Reply)

they affect a part of the brain known as shatner's bassoon.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:21, Reply)

Free the United Kingdom from Drugs - F.U.K.D

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:29, Reply)

She'll have to do it when she has kids I expect.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:05, Reply)

The catholic schools are all based on one big lie.
God!
( girlinthehole, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:08, Reply)

Examples won't matter when you're explaining this scenario to her mates' parents
westlondontoday.co.uk/content/broken-lecturer-spared-jail-after-drugs-stash-kills-teen
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:15, Reply)

LOL
(!)
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:40, Reply)

Unfortunate, maybe, but hardly "TRAGIC"
I mean, she wasn't that good looking.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:42, Reply)

Good education for your daughter must come first.
Your own feelings are unimportant in this matter. You have the chance to make sure the ethical holes in her education are filled by your own good efforts. I doubt that in the early years they hit the kids with anything too religeous anyway.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:08, Reply)

Don't worry about lying to the Catholic Church, they've been lying for centuries.
Quality of education has to come first. If she's intelligent she will realise as she grows up what a lot of shit the church is.

Only downside is that she'll have lots of catholic friends.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:12, Reply)

I'm in a similar situation with my ex.
Except she's doing CofE and because she believes'something' rather than for a school. I'm not happy about it, but as it's at least not the child rapists, I'm leaving it alone while refusing to condone or get involved. One must hope he'll have the sense to see sense at a later age.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:12, Reply)

i went to a cathclic primary school
didn't make one jot of difference. the kids don't believe a word about the religion anyway.

HOWEVER they do generally do a bit better at OFSTED etc, i think.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:13, Reply)

I'm clicing this.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:15, Reply)

haha, your spelling is shit
the o is nowhere even near the c
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:17, Reply)

if you've never heard of cath clic, that is not my problem
you inbred little sisterfucker
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:18, Reply)

she makes nice tablecloths

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:19, Reply)

your thinking of kidston, lady quent loves her stuff
i think its overpriced tat but the birds are mad for it
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:20, Reply)

Yeah, my mum got me a writing set for Chrimbo
Got a couple of cups as well. Everything else I have is a cheap imitation.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:22, Reply)

its all a very copied style
i got LQ a handbag and some other stuff for xmas, but i'd have preferred to get her an xbox
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:23, Reply)

you made the right decision
you can hang a handbag on an inflatable arm, but it's never going play xbox with you.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:26, Reply)

i can sellotape the controller to her wrist and pretend i'm always winning

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:28, Reply)

googling it doesn't come up with any results either
i was merely pointing out that your stupid, calm yerself
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:21, Reply)

Quents, if you're going to call someone out on a mis-spelling
and call them stupid, I'd spell "you're" correctly if I were you.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:22, Reply)

heeheehee
hiya MB hows your chopper?
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:23, Reply)

that's a very personal question, gaybo

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:25, Reply)

i'd happily suck off mighty badger for a ride on his chopper

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:27, Reply)

well. i hope you boys are very happy together.

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:29, Reply)

i'm hoping for some double whammy action
if he's not noshing me while i'm noshing him whats the point?
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:31, Reply)

if someone can tell me the point of you
i'd be happy to listen. but i doubt anyone can.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:32, Reply)

i like to think none of us really has a point, it makes life more interesting
just a blindfolded fumble through the mirrored passageway of the anus of time
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:33, Reply)

You completely forgot to misspell this post.
You are slipping, Bertie old chum.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:36, Reply)

i don't always make spelling mistakes, just most of the time
see?

b3ta.com/search/posts/90618?q=
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:37, Reply)

Jesus Christ there's no way I am reading that.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:39, Reply)

faster than a speeding bullet
is it a bird? noooo. is it a plane? nooooooooo. is it quentin making his 1000000,00000000,000000000th post of the day? yeeees.

poor old lifeless.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:41, Reply)

but i haven't even for weeks
:((((((((((

sasha's last day tomorow, absolutely gutted
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:43, Reply)

revolving at about 5000 rpm
worryingly
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:25, Reply)

you must have the rampant rabbit deluxe

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:27, Reply)

I went to not only a catholic school but a jesuit one.
They're like the catholic SS and I just ignored all that shite or argued with them as a kid.

As an adult I don't give a fuck about religion. It was a good school though.

Your daughter will make up her own mind in life about what is important despite what you would like.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:15, Reply)

I read that as Jet Suit
What a great idea
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:28, Reply)

Fuck yeah.
That would have been an awesome school.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:31, Reply)

Catholic girls are all well dirty.
Slags!
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:15, Reply)

well, quite, old boy.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:19, Reply)

They were the femme du jour when I was at the peak of my fingering career.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:21, Reply)

:(((

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:24, Reply)

present company excepted.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:24, Reply)

does this make it better or worse?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:25, Reply)

I'm not sure. ;-)

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:29, Reply)

As I dont have kids I dont give a fuck about anyone elses education
However, there are a lot of valid points raised, A catholic education in itself isnt bad it will depend on the reinforcement outside of the schools influence. As long as you can keep her questioning the validity of scripture she will be fine.
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:16, Reply)

don't sweat it
most faith schools don't have that much "faith" in the education because they aren't allowed to, and whilst, yes, the Catholic church is founded on some fairly scary premises, the vast majority of its practicioners are really quite nice people genuinely trying to do good. If a little deluded about beardy sky wizards.

My missus is Catholic and I wouldn't have a second's hesitation sending any of our kids to go to church or a catholic school. And I couldn't be more atheist if I was wearing Richard Dawkins as a jaunty, shouty hat.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:18, Reply)

Depends a lot on the school and the existing child's personality
I've observed a number of people who had a Strongly Catholic Element in their upbringing. Most still have residing guilt complexes, even despite most of them being more or less atheist nowadays. One has all the makings of a basket case, but seems never to have twigged that his neuroses stem from the church he continues to attend without fail. I know one example who seems to have emerged free of the shame and guilt complexes, but then she was clearly quite headstrong to begin with.

So yes, in case you haven't guessed from that little ramble, I have great suspicions about the Catholic Church. (Most of my objections to the CofE relate to my shit primary school and the vicar next door to my parents being a cunt.) So I guess the question is: just how much more shit are the non-faith schools? You could always let her go to the faith school but keep a close eye on how she develops.
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:36, Reply)

They are very shit indeed.
The kids don't speak the same language as their teachers. It'd be like sending my kid to a 'special' school.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:38, Reply)

Hmm.
My parents sent me to a CofE primary school on the grounds it had a good name. But then most of the kids, by the age of 8 or 9, were laughing off most of the risible attempts to drill the gospel into us. Take a good look at that school - if it's not a convent in disguise then she might be alright, but keep an eye on her. And pat her down for crucifixes and rosary beads each time she visits.
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:41, Reply)

I went to a CofE primary
and it was rather charming. Pilgrim's Progress etc, the whole school had less than 100 pupils so it was rather quaint.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:43, Reply)

So did I
A few hymns in assembly and that was it.
( Kroney, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:45, Reply)

Most of them can't even count to bibbedy.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:42, Reply)

Savages
I bet they all throw spears at each other in the playground and all...
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:47, Reply)

My daughter's the only 'honky' in her year.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:50, Reply)

Ah, well then if Treasure Island is anything to go by
surely all her classmates will recognise her natural superiority and look to her to lead them?
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:52, Reply)

I am assuming this is what will happen.
I've told her to demand they call her 'bwana'.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:53, Reply)

I read about it in a Tintin book too, so it must be true
_{(I'll have to see if I can get you a copy of Tintin in the Congo; whatever you think of the be-quiffed Belgian, I think this particular one will be right up your street...)}
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:56, Reply)

Do they all have huge lips and bones through their noses?
Belgians are weird.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:09, Reply)

I am aware of its, ah, delicate handling of the 'race issue'...

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:10, Reply)

I agree.
However I think a lot of the guilt thing is related back to the outsdie of school reinforcment, My missus did the whole catholic school thing and has very catholic parents and she still has some of the residual issues which are so ingrained that even my heathen influence hasnt been able to break them down. I feel thought that if outside of the school as long as it isnt being rammed down the childs neck all the time she should be bright enough to make up her own mind... Unless she is a bit mongy
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:42, Reply)

It's been years since I've rammed it down a catholic school girls neck.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:46, Reply)

I did consider editing but thought I would leave a nice easy gag line
(see what I have done again)
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:55, Reply)

In my experience
that's almost nothing to do with the church, and more to do with the child's upbringing, parents and personality.

basket cases with neuroses will have them whether there is a church to blame or not. Cunt parents are cunt parents whatever they believe in. Relgion is frequently just a convenient excuse.

Of course, it's also a controlling, manipulating shithead too. But I seriously doubt that even Cathlolicism can "turn" someone into a basket case.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:51, Reply)

You're probably quite right
I just can't help but think a doctrine which puts so much emphasis on shame, guilt and a running theme of "you're not as perfect as god is, what are you doing to make up for your failings?" helps to emphasise such neuroses in those who are showing the first signs of becoming a basket case.
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:54, Reply)

I think anyone that tells children they're perfect is causing just as much damage.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:56, Reply)

Oh absolutely
But they serve a valuable purpose to society by providing mawkish faux-documentary fodder for E4 and BBC3.
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:58, Reply)

by that argument every single fucking women's magazine in the world
is at least as bad.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:57, Reply)

Yep.
I also think they have a lot to answer for.
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:58, Reply)

also, I'm probably now contractually obliged to point out
that the Catholic church doesn't really roll like that any more. It's pretty much CofE with more incense and wine and wafers these days.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:58, Reply)

Well yeah, excepting the CofE are all proddy sinners who'll burn in hell

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:07, Reply)

Of course, of course.
As will my wife, now, since she married A SINNER.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:08, Reply)

I'd rather get 'sex tips' from Grazia
than from a hairy-nostrilled old Paddy in a dress.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:04, Reply)

Did you genuinely get any sex tips from school lessons?
The most constructive sexual comment any teacher ever gave my class was written on some kid's biology coursework drawing. "call that a vagina, Houlston? you could park a bus in that"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:07, Reply)

Hahahaha!

( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:10, Reply)

My art teacher liked it in her mouth when I was on the vinegars.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:11, Reply)

My art teacher apparently fucked Mick Hucknall
says it all, really.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:14, Reply)

Did he really?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:15, Reply)

Oh, zing. 7/10
now, my art teacher from the age of 12 to 14 was a bloke, actually. But to be fair, this was a lady type. Clearly a fucking deranged and blind ladytype with no taste, but still.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:17, Reply)

Your art teacher had the 'chop' while he was an adolescent?

(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:29, Reply)

Those teenage years stopped being hard after 14

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:30, Reply)

MUCH LIKE HIS COCK!
You know, because it was chopped off and inverted to make an artificial vagina...
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:35, Reply)

Oh, you know what I mean, Crow.
Two different teachers.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:39, Reply)

I know what you mean
I just take a perverse delight in being facetious.
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:45, Reply)

I used to work at the Jesuit school in Wimbledon.
They aren't allowed to indoctrinate by law, they have to accept a percentage of other denominations and religions etc. It's not as bad as all that.

And kids rebel. If you want her to be cool, give her a strict upbringing.
( Kroney, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:41, Reply)

And my phone number.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:43, Reply)

He said cool, not raped, rolled up in a carpet
and left to rot in some woods.
( wanderlust, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:47, Reply)

YEAH STUNNED YOU CUNT

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:50, Reply)

I'd NEVER leave her in a wood.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:04, Reply)

Well my good friend went to Catholic school.
He used to be a wild child but now doesn't drink and this Christmas decided to 'find himself' and spent Christmas Day on the streets in Paris on his own.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:49, Reply)

Was he raped by a parisian tramp?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:54, Reply)

He said he ended up socialising with an American homeless man and a hotel porter.
Must have been a right laugh.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:55, Reply)

Best of all the Christmas "gifts"

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:55, Reply)

I want to go to Cambodia or Thailand or whatever, find someone who is "finding themselves", tap the on the should and go "TAG, YOU'RE IT.... there you go, found you, you can go and get a job now".

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:18, Reply)

I like this

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:19, Reply)

^ This would be far more constructive than leaving them to their own devices
to fanny around for six months and "blog" about how "life-changing" it all is.
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:22, Reply)

Someone I know
'found himself' whilst playing the flute at dawn in front of the Taj Mahal.

I think this is the gayest thing I have ever heard in my life.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:25, Reply)

+ skin

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:26, Reply)

I haven't read anything in this thread except for your initial post.
So apologies if I am repeating anything, but me and the missus actually had a similar conversation recently in the hypothetical sense.

We decided that I am a moron and my opinion doesn't matter.

Hope that helps.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:53, Reply)

A great deal. Thanks a lot.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:55, Reply)

Haha!

( girlinthehole, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:55, Reply)

chortles

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:56, Reply)

roffle.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:01, Reply)

Meh, schools are schools
In a "normal" school she would be taught RE anyway. If she turns out to be a clever sod she will figure out which, if any, religion she wants to follow, not the one she was taught.

We are doing exactly the same for our two. Don't sweat it and then reap the results of a clever shite kid
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:54, Reply)

I would imagine your daughter will benefit more from the better standards of teaching and pastoral care
than she will be disadvantaged by the Christian ethos of the school.
(berk, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:55, Reply)

pastoral care rape
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:02, Reply)

I would imagine your daughter will benefit more from the better standards of teaching and pastoral care
than she will be disadvantaged by the Christian ethos of the school. from being your daughter.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:02, Reply)

I actually feel slightly guilty for that.
Not guilty enough to change it, obviously...
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:03, Reply)

As an alternative
Have you considered not sending her to school and simply feeding her up so you can harvest her organs once yours start to fail.
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:57, Reply)

Kidneys are worth at least a few K's of coke, aren't they?

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:59, Reply)

Not mine, they're not.
I only got £50 for it, and that was from a Circus Freaks show.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:02, Reply)

I meant hers

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:03, Reply)

She's only young.
I'm sure they'll grow back.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:06, Reply)

"No darling, you were just looking after Daddy's new kidneys"

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:10, Reply)

"now toddle off to the fridge like I taught you, and get me one of my special medicines. Good girl"

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:14, Reply)

"Stop genuflecting, Daddy told you only the crazies do that".

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:15, Reply)

Also, you should be happy. There'll be less Bangladeshi kids

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:20, Reply)

These kids do speak English as a first language. That is a massive plus.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:21, Reply)

More spades than a gravedigger's shed, though.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:22, Reply)

The weakest performing of all the ethnic groups.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:26, Reply)

I didn't realise gravediggers counted as an ethnicity these days.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:27, Reply)

They went underground a while back

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:30, Reply)

I office lolled
and then couldn't explain why, as the guy that sits opposite me is a huge black lad that moonlights as a bouncer.
( Kroney, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:26, Reply)

Funny that, the Catholic schools here are short of ethnics.
My nephew passed the entrance exams for two schools. one Catholic, one not.
My Mum (edit) chose the non-Catholic one because it is the slightly better school and also because she didn't see any black kids on the photos or round the school and she didn't want my nephew growing up in a white Catholic bubble.
Ohter than that it was a cracking school.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:26, Reply)

This lot are all Africans.
My daughter is one of about three pupils who has ever worn socks.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:29, Reply)

I'm sure laughing at this means I'm definitely a bad person.
Oh well.
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:30, Reply)

I'm not judging.
If you want to wear sandals in the snow in February, fucking go for it, I say.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:32, Reply)

Bloody students round here are like that.
Shorts, polo shirts and fucking flip flops. NOW.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:35, Reply)

hahahaha!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:30, Reply)

Again I find myself unable to explain my laughter.

( Kroney, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:31, Reply)

Strangely the catholic school we want my nephew to attend has muslim kids.
Not many I grant you, considering where it's based, in Burnley.
( girlinthehole, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:32, Reply)

Yeah my school had a few sikh and muslim girls
but this one my nephew was going to go to was total North End of Liverpool white Catholic oblivion
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:34, Reply)

And yet you wouldn't find any non-muslim kids in a muslim school.
Says it all really.
( girlinthehole, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:35, Reply)

Says what?

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:36, Reply)

House music all night long.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:36, Reply)

Say ooooh, la la, say ooooh

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:37, Reply)

Well, I'd assume
that most white british parents are too prejudiced to have the stones to send their kids to an Islamic faith school.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:37, Reply)

They must not be without sin

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:38, Reply)

oh, well played, sporters
a ripple of appluase from the crowd.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:40, Reply)

eythangyou

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:41, Reply)

I say, that's awfully good

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:43, Reply)

Oh right i see

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:38, Reply)

well, I assume so
cos, y'know, the only other option is a bit prejudiced and that.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:39, Reply)

Indeed

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:40, Reply)

The one thing Islamic schools do not need any more of is stones.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:40, Reply)

course they do.
Always more adulterers than there are stones. Always
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:42, Reply)

How ace it is being a non-muslim.

( girlinthehole, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:38, Reply)

What you on abaaaaht

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:38, Reply)

I'm being silly again.
Pay attention.
( girlinthehole, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:39, Reply)

wevs blud

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:39, Reply)

Even in needlework?
Ohhhhh, muslim
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:36, Reply)

All the Catholic schools in Hampshire are full entirely of inbred Paddies like my chum Yeti.
They're all descended from dock workers.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:36, Reply)

My dad/uncles/cousins' boy's school was like that.
But the one my nephew was going to go to was very posh, fee-paying, so not many of us great unwashed
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:38, Reply)

Mine was full 3rd 4th generation Italians
because of the PoW camp that was nearby and the fact most were to lazy to go back to Italy after WW2
(PsychoChomp, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:45, Reply)

They changed sides.
"Ahm not on a yor siiide, I am a on eez siiide"

Surrender monkeys.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:49, Reply)

I'm disappointed OT. Why has this not been pointed out?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaF9g1mwyf8
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:51, Reply)

Also:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4F6DwhnE2c
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:55, Reply)

Another of the shittest of all time.
He really thought he was funny didn't he? Massive error, Frank.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:59, Reply)

One of the shittest bands of all time.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:57, Reply)

Easy-
send her to Catholic school but indoctrinate her at home. Her superior Catholic education will allow her to see through the Veil of Lies.
(TDub Nunc id vides, nunc ne vides on, Thu 12 Jan 2012, 1:54, Reply)