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( , Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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You ever been on a protest? Or even thought that you'd like to go on a protest? I've thought about going on a few, the trouble is that a lot of people who protest all the time / career-protestors, really get on my nerves, even if I agree with their cause. Like when they exersize their rights to pathetic levels at inappropriate times ("Officer ! I would like to make a complaint ! That man assault me by touching my arm !").
Lunch Alt: french bread pizza
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( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 13:00, 190 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

lunch, i have already covered.
altalt: I'd rather they cured the common cold, more people get that than AIDS
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Which is a joke no one will get without googling. But that's the community care office for Scope.
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I know that's not the only point of one, but I'm just wondering.
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But in the UK, I'm not sure to be honest, there'll never be a direct change in response to a protest because politicians don't want to seem like they're backing down, but I assume that they do shit themselves a little when they see large protests outside their windows.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_in_the_United_Kingdom
I'd say probably the UK uncut caused Starbucks et al to be pulled in front of the select committee, and the Gurker justice thing basically got all of it's demands met.
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if it were anything more than just words
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and you'll have to let us know a time so we can get cops in to do crowd control.
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That makes sense, if they give in, then they'll be protests all the time, and that simply won't do.... we can protest in the form of a queue every 4 years outside the village church.
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Full of well meaning people but almost always overtaken by crusty cunts with fake dreadlocks and "fuck da police" mentality. I'd rather shit my own spine than be associated with them
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( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 13:11, Reply)

But normally I can't be bothered to deal with the screaming hippies that are sometimes so ill informed and biased to undermine the rest of the people who seem to really care.
A few of my friends went to London for the student loans thing, and got arrested for being on the balcony at that posh shop.
In all honesty gonz I'm just a bit too selfish, I have little free time as it is, and my lifestyle is pretty good, none of the stuff their protesting directly effects me enough to motivate me to go. I went and protested the university buildings that ruined the view of the meadow where I walk my dogs, but couldn't muster the desire to go and protest for the nhs, or any of the other myriad causes that I should be concerned about.
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Plus I'm disenfrachnised, I never believe it'll actaully make a difference in the end, and that it doesn't matter who's in power, it's always ending up the same.
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When do we want it ?!?!?! At your convinance !
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=c91z_gh0fRQ
It was a good day, apart from the whole getting attacked by the police thing.
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then they went rioting through innocent peoples gardens BECAUSE THEY HATE RACISM
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Protestor are often as bad as the police.
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Yes there were around twenty or so dickheads on the demonstrator side.
As I mentioned below, they were only armed with balsa wood sticks.
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they are hardly going to say, "no truncheons today lads thee veggies have only got thin sticks"
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But I'm fairly sure police don't charge in to people with 0 provocation.
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To make matters worse for me* I was coming down off the strongest acid I have ever taken.
*And perhaps make me a less reliable witness
( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 13:37, Reply)

that's precisely how I want my tax money spent, beating the shit out of lefties and communists
( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 13:27, Reply)

The twenty or so "rioters" were armed with balsa wood sticks.
( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 13:17, Reply)

There is no footage in that clip of anyone throwing a brick.
In fact the only person holding a brick in that clip is a police officer.
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You can clearly see protectors punching kicking and attacking police, regardless of how it started, attacking police officers is a dick move.
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Yes you are right, it is stupid to attack a police officer.
However, some dicks will fight back if they are attacked.
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I have no problems with pre-emptive strikes against smelly people
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I'm surprised there weren't more paper-cut injuries sustained by those poor mounted police with helmets, shields and batons.
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In my right on lefty way. unfortunately there were some dicks there that did want to start it... Admittedly the old bill overreacted and thats when it kicked off,
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the vast majority are well meaning people wanting to make a point. however you will always have some dicks,
( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 13:42, Reply)

the vast majority are well meaning people wanting to make a point. however you will always have some dicks,
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I can believe the police over reacting to protectors pushing their luck getting at an area the police have been trying to keep them out of, as well as I can believe that 2 or 3 idiot protestors with the wrong attitude can turn the mood of an entire crowd.
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and the police forced them right back again. Violence then ensued. The reporter says, right at the beginning of the report, that "six petrol bombs were recovered". Petrol bombs are not something you improvise in the middle of a fight. You prepare them beforehand. The people spoiling for a fight here were the protestors.
( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 13:35, Reply)

The report does give a very one sided point of view, you will always have some elements that spoil for a fight in which ever crowd situation you are in. The problem was their were innocent protesters including kids etc. who were jammed up against a violent response from the old bill. As I said it was fine until the march bottle necked at the blockade and then it went properly scarey
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The protestors rushed the line.
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And of course the news outlets get the most "accurate offcial" reports from the old bill and can adapt it accordingly.
It is a bit like saying... I made my judgement on giving birth from a book I read called here comes the stork
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It wasnt until we got near the blockade that it all got tense. There are always certain tensions on these things and lets be honest at that age you are in a situation when the old bill are something to fight against so there is always a bit of an atmosphere. Admittedly the report isnt very balanced.
Police horses are fucking big when they charge though,
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I wasn't there to fight with the police and I didn't expect to be charged by them either.
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And this is the point, once the police start to react in the way they did they become indiscriminant and people were getting badly hurt who did nothing against the law.
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Sometimes people get caught out and sometimes innocent people get hurt. It is regrettable. What I take issue with is the statement from Tangles that the police were there to start a fight. They weren't. They got rushed, they reacted. That's all.
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However at no point are the police allowed to create collateral damage. You cannot make a statement to the effect that if you are on a demo you are fair game to a copper.
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you know how a demo can turn out, therefore you should be prepared to be shoved in the back as you walk away triggering a devestating heart attack
( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 13:57, Reply)

I don't mean that the police were there to start a fight, but at several points before that they gave the impression of a rather aggressive form of defence.
From where I was standing (which was quite near to where the orange smoke bomb was set off) the police attacked first.
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You don't have to be punching and kicking to cause aggro.
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In order to facilitate this they lined the route with mounted officers.
The official line of the demonstration organisers was to stick to the revised route, however unhappy they were.
I'm not for one moment suggesting that there wasn't an element who intended to try to take the original route, but as I have repeatedly stated, the police were the ones doing the charging not the demonstrators.
We reached the fork in the route and, after all the argy-bargy, that is where the march ended.
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the charging through people's front garden thing is pretty inexcusable mind.
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You see how the riot police came in from behind the uniforms? That is because they were being held back in reserve. There was a line of normal policemen cordoning off a road. The riot police moved in because the crowd tried to force their way through the cordon. That is what happened. The police made no aggressive moves until your lot tried to force their way through. They were forced right back again and the mounted units moved into to disperse. That is standard riot control. It is still used today.
I'm getting sick of this conversation, now. I get that you didn't like it as you were caught in the middle and feel you didn't deserve it. The police were not there to start a fight. Your lot were. They got a kicking as a result and then bitched about it afterwards.
The end.
( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 14:16, Reply)

You are correct that the riot police come from behind the normal officers.
I can't see any agression from the demonstrators before the push from the riot squad.
I'm not saying that people weren't trying to breach the cordon and take the planned route - I am saying that the police approach was disproportionate and overly aggressive.
The riot police were in evidence throughout the march, presumably as some kind of deterrent.
"My lot" were mainly families and college students and had no plans to breach any police lines.
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and are actually there to provide a series of set-piece battles featuring the exact equipment the rioters have. They should probably set up jousting lists.
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www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1883925
The protestors instigated the whole thing. I know it's en vogue for hippies to hate the police and think of them as brutal commissars whose purpose is to destroy individual freedoms or some shit like that, but you are being daft.
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There were no petrol bombs thrown.
There were many people who sustained baton injuries on the backs of their heads.
The story, as reported by ITN, does not reflect my eyewitness account.
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and doesn't reflect the whole. No petrol bombs were thrown. Six were recovered. Why would you make petrol bombs if you weren't intending to throw them? Some of the protestors went there with the intent of starting a riot. The police reacted and you were caught in the middle. The police were not there "looking for a fight".
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having cut there teeth in the 80's, but still the rioters didn't have to be there the police did
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They operated a zero tolerance policy. I'm not saying it's right, but I am saying they didn't turn up to these thigns looking for an excuse to break heads.
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All of the police were.
Which ones came ready for a fight?
( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 14:12, Reply)

But only in response to your slightly ridiculous statements.
The difference is that you are basing most of your opinions on this particular case on that news clip.
I am basing mine on my personal experience of the case, which differs from how it was reported.
( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 14:15, Reply)

I am basing my opinion on what I saw from the video footage, not what comes out of the reporter's mouth, I am also taking into account my own knowledge of police procedure that I got from my father. No doubt also biased. The police were expecting a riot. They came equipped for dealilng with a riot. The protestors lived down to expectations and got dispersed.
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www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1883850
I also was trying to avoid a "He started it, Miss!" line of argument, as it doesn't really matter when people are getting hurt.
However, my assertion is that it was the police who created the situation, not the demonstrators.
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I was only seventeen at the time and that is how it seemed to me.
I have tried not to deal in black and white here - deliberately using words/phrases like 'seem' or 'from where I was standing'
I still have a healthy respect for a police force, but I saw a different side on that day.
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that's how the old couple cowering in their bathroom and as a thousand stinking lefties piled through their pagonias saw it.
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Have you ever used www.uniformdating.com?
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The "models" they use are all fucking minging.
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partly because there are too many of them. if we only had one a year, people would notice it. but of course you can't draw that distinction. no tamil tigers, it's the stop the war coalition this year.
see also the tube strikes. people were fairly sympathetic the first time round. now everyone just sees a load of greedy incompetent cunts. i even saw an indian comedian do a routine about how asian parents no longer push their children into the cliches of law/medicine; these days they are all desperate for their kids to get into london underground...
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Hey presto no drivers needed.
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that and put bob crow's head on a pike outside the tower of london
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They were protesting against new powers brought in to shift squatters, with the enthusiasm only students from white, middle class homes can muster. They ought to shift the squatters into their (parents') houses. Bet they won't want to protest then. I figure, don't protest against something you'd want to be in force if you were the victim. The victim being the property owner, in this case.
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i mean it's not like they provide jobs and growth* to the economy that help prevent people from being homeless.
*generally rather than right now
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so they are targeting commercial instead. empty pubs are a prime target as they usually have facilities like kitchens, bathrooms etc.
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who were wandering around Coventry looking for innocent, peaceful, petrol bomb carrying protestors to kick the shit out of.
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i'm eating freekah for lunch, does that make me one?
i bet momo would rip my fingers off for it, it's fucking tast-eh.
( , Mon 4 Mar 2013, 13:53, Reply)

I see no reason why that law shouldn't be enacted here
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Lunch: Poached salmon salad box, a bit good.
AltAlt: Is it actually 'cured' though, or is this only a short term thing? The way it sounded this morning is that they 'think' things are going well, but every newspaper is leading with 'HIV CURED!'.
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See Hilary mantel on Kate Middleton as an example
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Which caused my genitalia to return from where it had retreated on the previous click's Noel Edmonds and Tracy Emin.
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Which means they can still find traces of the virus, but it's in such low levels that it shouldn't be able to replicate and the chance of passing on the infection is absolutly tiny.
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they've been doing it in Africa for years
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and yet other blokes admitted it and were hanged...
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racist crow lols
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I'm going to one this evening. I quite enjoy them.
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Nah, I'm joking, I'm with you.
The whole abortion question is a big deal in Ireland I understand. My mother was sort of cut off for marrying my father (he's an English protestsnt) and never told her mother or sisters that she had had an abortion early in their relationship.
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and I like to think I've made a real difference.
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Used to sit with a bunch of unwashed hippies at Greys Monument in Newcastle and started eating beanfeast shit.
Soon saw the error of my ways when they tried to stop me eating sweets because they had gelatin in.
And meat just tastes better really.
Alt.Alt. I reckon diseases like AIDS and Cancer are natures way of keeping the population down.
Also, where did AIDS come from? Theories are a bit vague *cough* man made *cough*
Imagine though!
*wears tin foil hat*
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