but expected, if you think about it for just a minute.
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 16:16, Reply)
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 16:57, Reply)
They're using boats to cross the channel because they know that we won't stop them once they're in the water, and we'll be soft on them once they land. It makes the potentially perilous journey a lot more palatable, because there's only really one risk assessment to make.
If they knew that the boats would be getting sunk by the coastguard/navy on sight, there would be significantly fewer willing to chance it.
The Government would need to sink two or three boats initially, in order to show that it wasn't a bluff. But it would undoubtedly result in a net reduction in loss of life long-term compared to the absolute shit show that's going on currently.
You come across as blindingly idealistic, though. So maybe you're just incapable of psychologically processing these kinds of difficult scenarios.
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 19:38, Reply)
Another radical idea. We could try helping to make other countries considerably less shit to live in. Reduce the impetus to leave by putting money into their healthcare systems, food production, infrastructure, security, or the like - it would be far cheaper to do at that end.
We could call it something snappy like "International Aid".
Who knows, if we did it enough, other countries might start to like us again.
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 20:58, Reply)
Fuck knows what they've done with it, though.
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 21:23, Reply)
You're being had mate. You're supposed to have allowances and shit. Fucking fire your accountant.
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If we could stop the need for them coming, we could fund it from reducing border control processes that are clearly just for show, and there's sure to be savings in immigrant processing/housing/welfare/repatriation costs that everyone seems so flag wavy about.
It's called soft power. It's a hell of a lot cheaper in the long run, but it's clearly a hard sell to people who think every problem can be solved with a 20mm cannon.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 10:26, Reply)
We can't all be b3ta's resident mosely, I guess, willing to ditch the rule of law without a second thought if it means terrorising brown people
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 21:37, Reply)
bit late to get all coy and defensive. That ship has sailed. Unless that's another one you're out to sink
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 23:10, Reply)
And likely says more about your own prejudices than anyone elses.
All critics of Israel are anti-semitic too, yes?
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 5:53, Reply)
Well, you’ll certainly be the maverick at your next “Free Tommy Robinson” rally
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 6:40, Reply)
your reply is somewhat ambiguous.
To clear it up, do you consider yourself a racist person who wants to murder immigrants to scare away other immigrants, or a non-racist person who wants to murder immigrants to scare away other immigrants?
This is more about how you view yourself, not how others might view what is blindingly obvious, so be candid
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 12:27, Reply)
I don't actually give a fuck what nationality they are, either. 'OmG, yOu MuSt Be RaCisT bEcAuSe ThEy ArEn'T fRoM hErE' is a lazy gotcha for people that don't have any kind of legitimate argument.
I don't want to 'murder immigrants', either. I'm absolutely fine with immigrants. I want to give individuals who are attempting to gain entry to and settle in the country illegally a compelling reason to maybe fuck off and stay in France. I can't think of anything more compelling than "I better not try that, because they're highly likely to shoot me." I couldn't give a rat-fuck whether they're Albanian, Swedish, Iranian, Czech or German, just fuck off.
Don't try and cross the Channel illegally, don't get shot (or 'murdered', if you want to be alarmist in order to grant your weak "muh human rights!" argument more credence). It's a deterrent, not an excuse to shoot people.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 12:53, Reply)
Restating that doesn't really add much. Nobody's suggesting you want to murder ALL the immigrants. Think of the logistics
But it's heartening to hear that you're, let me quote you, "absolutely fine with immigrants". No doubt it's just the lawbreaking nature of these immigrants that upsets you. When it came to your attentiion that those attempting to live here weren't following due lawful process, your natural response was to advocate drowning some of them without trial in order to show others that this flaunting of legal norms won't be tolerated. This sounds like an intelligent and ethically consistent position, rather than the blatherings of some racist cabbie
I wonder if your whole "forcing compliance through fear of state sanctioned murder and violence" jam extends to other crimes and misdemeaners and trouble making groups, not just these bad eggs among your loveable immigrants. There are plenty of organisations that share such views, you're not alone, tweeting into the void for validation. Some of them you even get a uniform if you join,
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at least you get a reaction here. On most of the corners of the internet you frequent I bet they're so commonplace you hardly get a like
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 14:17, Reply)
If they knew that the boats would be getting sunk by the coastguard/navy on sight, there would be significantly fewer willing to chance it is remarkably unambiguous.
I'd imagine even this is toned down for b3ta compared to what you say when you think you're among fellow travellers. I'm right, aren't I?
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 15:14, Reply)
Or a variation thereof.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 3:44, Reply)
which would make the Henley regata infinitely more fun to watch.
Squiddy squiddy squid games
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 9:09, Reply)
Sure, the short term cost would be high, but it would mean fewer people dying overall, and it would most certainly stop the small boat problem. You know I'm not wrong.
Hopefully you can see that it would not be a good idea to do so.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 9:19, Reply)
and will be helping to write our species' future.
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Because it feels like they're taking the fucking piss of our current immigration policy, going by the link you've posted.
What is it about the UK that makes an already ridiculously hazardous channel crossing so appealing to these individuals? Why not just stay in France, or Germany?
"Oh no, I better not risk crossing the Channel just in case the Government apprehends me, makes sure I'm healthy and safe, gives me food and board for a few weeks, then flies me back over to France so I can do the whole thing over again a few weeks later at absolutely ridiculous cost to tax payers."
It's like some thick cunt hoping that if he feeds the foxes in his back garden then drops them off on the other side of the motorway, they won't come back again.
I don't expect foxes to get the message, regardless of how many you shoot. But I suspect that the majority of these immigrants have significantly more capacity for cognitive thought than a canid does.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 10:00, Reply)
That's simple. It is the very terrible state of the place they came from. Until we step up and fix that, they will keep coming and risking their lives. Just imagine, if you can, just how shit your current existence must be to risk your life being taken over the channel in a dodgy boat by dodgy people to end up living in Slough.
Sorry if the solution isn't as simple as "Just shoot some of them on their way over to put the others off" but this is the real world, and real solutions are often neither simple nor cheap. Of course, we only have to make it so where they are is better than risking your life to get to Slough or Milton Keynes.
In your fox analogy, if you fed the foxes on the other side of the motorway, they wouldn't cross it to get to the shitheap you call a garden...
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 12:46, Reply)
Why don't they just stay in France, or Germany, or any of the other Western-European countries?
They're already out of the shithole they escaped from. Why further risk their lives in a dinghy crossing the channel when they could just settle in Europe?
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 12:56, Reply)
Trouble is
- Uk more desirable; people coming over more like to speak English than French, easier to find informal work, more likely they'll be able to stay in the uk longterm, harder to return them to the eu. All this bigged up by the people smugglers so they get more trade.
- not in france's interests to put that much effort in as it gets rid of a problem for them. Also france govt in chaos right now.
All a bit late now. Might have helped if:
Don't have done brexit. Don't have invaded and fucked up afghan and iraq. Don't have toppled assad. Don't have stripped immigration processing capacity to the bone.
I'm sure reform will sort it out.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 13:49, Reply)
I just hope they oust that cunt Farage, first.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 13:59, Reply)
When you complain about immigrants, do you mean only illegal immigrants, or do you include asylum seekers as well?
EDIT : To clarify
Based on the latest data for 2024 (calendar year):
Total small boat arrivals: Approximately 36,649
Total who claimed asylum: Approximately 34,816
Number of illegal migrants entering on small boats: Approximately 1,832
Major spending on "stopping the boats":
Rwanda scheme: £715 million spent in total (2022-June 2024), which resulted in just 4 voluntary relocations. The plan was to spend £10 billion total if it had continued.
Breakdown:
£290 million paid to Rwanda government
£50 million on flights that never took off
£95 million on detention/reception centres
£280 million on IT systems, legal costs, staffing
Other border security spending:
£3.5 billion in contracts to private firms (2017-2024) for surveillance, detention facilities, escorts, etc.
£280 million per year for new Border Security Command (replacing Rwanda scheme)
so billions is spent on stopping under 2000 people a year coming in. I would rather fund the NHS, at least those 2000 people would have a job then and contribute in taxes.
People being outraged at immigrants, like you are, are the ones that mean you have to pay half your income in taxes. You are your own problem.
Regarding "Why didn't they stop in Germany or France?"
Because they don't have to. International law, specifically the 1951 Refugee Convention, does not require an asylum seeker to claim asylum in the first safe country they reach, but allows them to apply in any country that has signed the convention. Now, a country can declare a claim inadmissible if the person could have claimed asylum in a "safe third country" they passed through, BUT, implementing the "safe third country" rule is complex in practice. A claim might be denied if the destination country is unlikely to receive an assurance that the person will be accepted back by the third country within a reasonable timeframe BECAUSE many countries have implemented laws that make it difficult to enter the country to claim asylum, and it may not be possible to claim asylum from outside the country.
So again, the reason we have to accept asylum seekers is precisely because of people who are outraged by asylum seekers.
TL;DR you're the cause of the problem you complain about. The only real solution is to stop people leaving their original country by making it nice enough that they won't put their life at risk coming here. Like I said before.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 16:08, Reply)
I'm fine with taking in asylum seekers, assuming they're legitimately seeking asylum/refuge and have gone through the proper, official procedure. Our economy would be absolutely shagged without migration - we're humiliatingly workshy as a nation, and things aren't improving in that respect.
Plus, without immigration, who's going to call me 'boss man' when I take a break from preying on drunken 20-something's on a Saturday night to buy a kebab. I fucking love it when they call me that. "What you having tonight, boss man?", makes me feel 2 inches taller :)
Edit: Your figures are for individuals claiming asylum. That isn't the number of legitimate asylum seekers, it's just the people claiming to be asylum seekers. If I remember correctly, about half of all people claiming asylum are granted asylum on first application.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 16:26, Reply)
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 16:34, Reply)
or immigration control
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 19:49, Reply)
Just because you don't get something doesn't mean you weren't seeking it.
So, 1800 were not seeking asylum i.e. illegal migrants. The rest, like it or not, were in the group you say you have no problem with.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 20:15, Reply)
"Hello, I'm an Asylum Seeker" does not make you an Asylum Seeker. If the Government says "We don't feel your asylum claim is legitimate", I think it's safe to say that the individual is not, in fact, an actual Asylum Seeker and is, in fact, an illegal immigrant. No?
Unless you know better than the people assigned to make these calls?
(, Fri 24 Oct 2025, 14:32, Reply)
They are going through the proper, official procedure, the legal route, just because they fail does not suddenly make them illegal.
That's like asking a woman if they will have sex with you, but because you are ugly and have no chance, the fact you asked makes you liable for criminal charges and is illegal. I hope even you can see the complete failure of logic that an unsuccessful application gives you illegal status.
Again, asking and then being refused does not make you illegal. The only illegal migrants are the ones not going through the proper, official procedure, and that's about 1800 a year. I fully agree that we should be sending failed applicants back, and any that return are then illegal migrants, but currently that total is 1.
(, Fri 24 Oct 2025, 16:31, Reply)
Arriving on a small boat after being smuggled across the Channel is proper, official procedure, is it?
Righto, then...
(, Fri 24 Oct 2025, 16:58, Reply)
Because of International law, specifically the 1951 Refugee Convention, which protects refugees regardless of how they arrive.
In practice, this means:
You can arrive by boat, plane, land
You can arrive without documents
You can't be prosecuted simply for the manner of your arrival
The Convention recognizes that people fleeing persecution often have no choice but to breach immigration rules to reach safety.
So "Arriving on a small boat after being smuggled across the Channel is proper, official procedure" according to international law.
(, Fri 24 Oct 2025, 20:41, Reply)
It may offer you certain protections under the refugee act, but those protections are there in order to protect the legitimate refugees/asylum seekers and not people trying to enter the country illegitimately.
Look, you know as well as I do that the vast majority of people arriving by small boat aren't making a bee line for the nearest immigration office or border control point. You're simply treading water with your gotchas and 'yes, buts', because you're utterly unwilling to accept that you're wrong on this one.
(, Sat 25 Oct 2025, 6:41, Reply)
I'll accept your viewpoint if you can at least do the same
(, Sat 25 Oct 2025, 11:40, Reply)
It's getting boring now... it does not matter who you vote for as nothing will change. They need civil unrest to lead to civil war so they can implement the controls for agenda 2030. (digital id, cbdcs, 'smart' everything etc). They use many ways to divide you funts... left/right politics, gender bollocks, young/old, climate bollocks, flags, the bloody immigrants, turning your towns and cities into shitholes, trump, putin, islamofacists, pakistani rape gangs, and many many more.
Anyone too thick to see this by now deserves to live in a digital prison.
Call people fascists and post funny things on the internet all you want... it's not going to save you. :D
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 10:39, Reply)
Some say at the top level it's 13 bloodlines. I don't have all the answers.
I just listen to music
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(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 11:07, Reply)
I can walk 100 yards out my front door and be transported to the other side of the world!
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 13:15, Reply)
Guess what Andrew's nickname was among palace staff.
Hint: it wasn't 'Randy Andy.'
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 14:52, Reply)
Personally I reckon we are just scratching the surface of his misdemeanours.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 0:05, Reply)
all this criticism seems a bit rich. That's the whole fucking point of a hereditary position - it's not earned, it's not warranted, it's not deserved, it's passed down like sicle cell anemia or incest-related-deviancy. AND his behaviour doesn't really rank in the top 10 of naughty aristocrats.
Personally, I think he's great King material - nothing brought the nation together like its hatred of George IV.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 9:54, Reply)
Wealth tax and UBI would make a good start. Also short fixed term limits for all politicians, judges, senior civil servants and especially for heads of the military, police and intelligence services. Abolish private education. Abolish most if not all institutions whose names start with 'Crown'. Arrest the Windsor crime family and seize their stolen assets. All state officials, police, military, etc to swear allegiance to the people rather than their head of state. Make undisclosed conflicts of interest for public servants a criminal offence equal to murder. Make nepotism a criminal offence equal to attempted murder.
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I have never quite understood what makes an adult idolise another human being or accept aristocratic power over them, or how the right wing mantras of personal responsibility and meritocracy are at all compatible with royalism, or how anyone with any self respect and dignity could *willingly* swear an oath of loyalty to a monarch.
(, Fri 24 Oct 2025, 16:19, Reply)
I see that they are still using Prince Andrew as the scapegoat for all the evils of that vile family.
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This is one of my favourite OGWT performances www.youtube.com/watch?v=0svQz5lLTdo&list=RD0svQz5lLTdo&start_radio=1
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 14:18, Reply)
Hopefully this is just an anomaly and you'll be back to linking supergay eurotrash and prog basslines before long.
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 14:24, Reply)
but it has a certain .... something.
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 15:35, Reply)
We played there last year and it was an absolutely FANTASTIC night! Hope to see some of you lovely people there!
Link is to tickets site.

(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 12:09, Reply)
Hopefully catch you on the European leg of the tour.
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 8:28, Reply)
There's a very good chance we'll do it again next year
(, Thu 23 Oct 2025, 20:18, Reply)
I checked to see if there is a Russian Mr T . AI says no
(, Tue 21 Oct 2025, 18:51, Reply)
There's far more money to be made by engineering ways to mitigate the negative environmental effects of climate change than there ever will be from engineering ways to make ourselves more environmentally sustainable.
There's absolutely no fucking way we're going to leave any oil in the ground whatsoever. Assuming we manage to run the planet completely dry without wiping ourselves out via a resource war in the process, by that point the atmosphere will likely be so toxic that we'll all be living in artificial biospheres, Total Recall style.
Most of us will be dead by then anyway, so it's not really worth worrying about.
(, Tue 21 Oct 2025, 14:29, Reply)
doom and gloom, it's all hopeless
Cunt
(, Tue 21 Oct 2025, 19:12, Reply)
I read that more as a critique of the way that corporations have no interest other than profit, and will continue inexorably to do whatever makes the most money, even if the climate, environment, or people are the cost.
Just look at what Shell do in Africa as a very graphic and current example. Nobody is doing much to stop that. Much that works, anyway.
(, Tue 21 Oct 2025, 20:03, Reply)
- hope you're right and that - but based on past experience, it may just be cuntery
(, Tue 21 Oct 2025, 21:15, Reply)
You were just being frightened and reactionary. Which is understandable, it's a very frightening state of affairs!
(, Tue 21 Oct 2025, 21:18, Reply)
We've been oscillating between cuntish and goodish all my life.
This cuntiness too will pass.
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I'm rather fond of this version:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HsZYwjEvaA
(, Tue 21 Oct 2025, 10:38, Reply)
I was not disappointed.
Where's the 12"? :)
(, Wed 22 Oct 2025, 17:12, Reply)
includes fingerprint reader
Kohler unveils a camera for your toilet | TechCrunch

(, Mon 20 Oct 2025, 16:43, Reply)
This one is far too conspicuous to be of any use.
(, Mon 20 Oct 2025, 16:58, Reply)
packed full of sensors including camera, microphone, speaker and a lot more. Skip past the introductions at the start and the politics at the end.
(, Tue 21 Oct 2025, 0:07, Reply)
not least of which is, I imagine it needs to sit below the seat to look down and they put a fingerprint detector on it.
And you need to pay a yearly subscription?
I'll file this under 'Things it is cheaper to get a prostitute to do'
(, Mon 20 Oct 2025, 17:58, Reply)
maybe with a drum roll beforehand for any longer poos
(, Tue 21 Oct 2025, 0:00, Reply)
Surely AI can be trained to recognise individual bums.
(, Mon 20 Oct 2025, 20:26, Reply)
🚨 NEW!🚨
Free to stream, another three-hour exploration of the sounds of the year 2000, this time focussed on sampling, mashup and DJ culture as well as the US election. This is a good one!
Featuring: A Silver Mt. Zion, Adam Beyer, Alan Braxe, Antony & The Johnsons, Arto Tunçboyacıyan, Asian Dub Foundation, Avalanches, Badly Drawn Boy, Basement Jaxx, Bersuit Vergarabat, Big Boss Man, Black Box Recorder, Black Legend, Blonde Redhead, Bomfunk MC's, Boss Hog, Britney Spears, Broadcast, Budowitz, Busta Rhymes, Cassandra Fox, Cassetteboy, Cat Power, Chris Morris, Clinic, Clint Mansell, Common, Daphne & Celeste, Deltron 3030,& Roland, Doug Stanhope, Doves, Dr. Dre, Electrelane, Eminem, Fred Falke, Funkmaster Flex, Gentle Waves, Goldfrapp, Herbaliser Band, Kinobe, Kronos Quartet, Lambchop, Lemon Jelly, Longmont Potion Castle, Looper, M.O.P., Mint Royale Feat. Lauren Laverne, múm, Mya, Mystikal, Nelly, Oneida, Outkast, Rui Da Silva, S Club 7, Sonique, St Germain, Suba, Sugababes, VNV Nation, Wu-Tang Clan, Yo La Tengo.
2000 Part Two – Get Me a Tape

(, Mon 20 Oct 2025, 9:55, Reply)
Bambabambababababambabambabambababababam.
Great, but best wait until you've got rid of the hangover.
(, Sat 18 Oct 2025, 21:37, Reply)
have had it bookmarked for years
(, Sat 18 Oct 2025, 22:15, Reply)
Oh, it's your fault it turned up in my feed is it? Anything else you're hiding away there?
(, Sat 18 Oct 2025, 22:16, Reply)
But I found it when I was binging on percussion pieces (although I know fuck all about playing percussion), especially marimba
This one is good - as one
Lots of Ivan Trevino pieces - clicky
I think a lot of them appeared in my suggestions after I started listening to lots of Steve Reich, especially music for 12 musicians
(, Sat 18 Oct 2025, 22:36, Reply)
I can't see Beef Rita "Friends'Activity"...neither on firefox or chrome. I click linky, but it then says I have to log in, which I try but no dice. Anyone else? Any fix?
(, Sun 19 Oct 2025, 11:53, Reply)
or posted,,,but it asks me to log in, which I already am, but then I logout/ log in again and it still tells me to log in....or if I stay logged in and log in again on the new page, still nada.
(, Sun 19 Oct 2025, 14:53, Reply)
I'd imagined a bearded lady who hangs around the river side, late at night by the Tower of London.
(, Mon 20 Oct 2025, 12:07, Reply)
I think of B3ta as an antidote to modern social media - an antisocial media if you will.
I've done the b3ta meet-ups back when they were a thing, and I think you lot are best kept on the other side of the screen.
(, Sun 19 Oct 2025, 22:05, Reply)
If you don't like the first 10 seconds you won't like the rest.
(, Sat 18 Oct 2025, 1:28, Reply)
If you like that sort of thing, here's half a 2500Kg lump of metal getting 1500Kg of metal taken off it to make a part for an oil rig or something of that size.
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I think later on I’ll roll a joint, put some cans on and crank up the volume.
(, Fri 17 Oct 2025, 18:34, Reply)
I've got link previews disabled, but I wasn't disappointed when I clicked on that one
CB good
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Alpha Phoenix wins the internet.
(, Fri 17 Oct 2025, 17:13, Reply)
which is probably irrelevant
(, Fri 17 Oct 2025, 17:27, Reply)
It's totally relevant. I'm hoping he builds a second camera to demonstrate this very effect.
(, Fri 17 Oct 2025, 17:39, Reply)
Am I extremely online? Well I tried touching grass, and it was a transformative experience
Bevor Sie zu YouTube weitergehen
(, Fri 17 Oct 2025, 16:46, Reply)
Here's hoping that H&K Forever Young FC get a chance at their spot in the Premier League in the coming years. Community solidarity at its finest.
Ely e-bike crash riot accused tells jurors he is not a bad person

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