who starts the worst threads on here?
alt: so the gypsies are still camping on park lane. the local council has tried paying for their flights home, evicting them, pleading with romania to take them back, but they're still there. what would you do - help them or get rid of them, and how?

altalt: lunch? i have sushi or sandwiches.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:36, 245 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

I've got to admit that Freezer Chat isn't quite as shit as Cable Chat.
But, that said, Al is a cunt.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:36, Reply)

Chicken chat is much better than both

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:37, Reply)

the fact that he has spawned is a truly terrifying one, yes

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:41, Reply)

Al has bred?
Oh man, I bet he's nearly as good a parent as Sexface.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:43, Reply)

Also:
Is Battered's divorce the reason why CHCB no longer posts here?

b3ta.com/questions/morningaftersouvenirs/post1601260
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:55, Reply)

hahah wrong midget

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:58, Reply)

Nuke them from orbit
Its the only way to make sure

AltAlt: Those Warburtons flat things with coronation chicken and spinach
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:37, Reply)

If they're illegals, round them up and force them on a plane
the same way we deal with other illegals, in fact.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:38, Reply)

they're not because they are EU citizens
they get 90 days. so they sleep in hyde park, do whatever they do along park lane and oxford street during the day. on day 89 they go to france, come back 2 days later for a fresh 90 days.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:40, Reply)

I don't know why there hasn't been some sort of law passed
to say "if you want to live in our country you have to abide by our rules regardless of your traditions or religion".

Seems to work well enough for France.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:45, Reply)

Australia said similar too

( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:49, Reply)

Stop oppressing people's human rights.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:51, Reply)

At the risk of sounding like "Man With All the Answers" Nigel Planer,
these people regularly infringe on the rights of landowners and the people that live in the area and it's their rights we should be protecting above those of itinerant thieves.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:54, Reply)

This situation wouldn't have arisen if the land hadn't been stolen from the people in the first place.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:55, Reply)

What land, where?

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:56, Reply)

THE land.
All of it.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:58, Reply)

You're silly, I'm not talking to you anymore.

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:02, Reply)

Aw :(

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:06, Reply)

If they are breaking the law
they can be dealt with as such. The problem comes when you start bringing their country of origin into it. Why should you treat a Romananian trespasser different from a British one.

And, frankly, you shouldn't be protecting the rights of anyone "above" those of someone else. Unless you're a cunt.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:31, Reply)

Gas the cunts.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:39, Reply)

Alt: micro is about to have the lentil casserole I've made her. I won't be eating the same.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:42, Reply)

alt: herd them into army trucks and drive them by night into a secluded woodland area.
Then I would force them at gunpoint to dig their own mass grave, line them up on the edge of the pit and machine-gun them into it, before filling it with quicklime. I can 100% guarantee that having done this two or three times the 'problem' would go away.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:42, Reply)

Clicking this.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:44, Reply)

It's called 'tough love'

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:45, Reply)

Otherwise known as 'an excellent night out for the drivers and witnesses'

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:46, Reply)

10/10 A real hoot, James Smith, Trip Advisor

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:47, Reply)

the 'problem' would go away. times before that it is quite effective.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:52, Reply)

hahaha

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:59, Reply)

Quite a few years ago, there was a bunch of them that set up camp in a farmer's field in Somerset.
The farmer understandably wanted shut of them, but there was nothing he could legally do.

So, after giving them 24 hours notice of intention, he set about muckspreading that field, working his way down to the end where the pikeys were installed.
Hilarity, as I'm sure you could imagine, ensued.

AltAlt: yeah, I should probably eat something before I head out to work. Which reminds me, I haven't had breakfast yet. Ah well, might as well wait for lunch now.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:42, Reply)

This link is a bit unclear as to whether these are Romanians or Roms who happen to be from Romania
www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/329776/Roma-gypsies-use-the-law-to-avoid-eviction-from-Park-Lane-squatter-camp
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:43, Reply)

Who gives a shit?
Well, actually, they do - in Hyde Park, the dirty fucking cunts.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:44, Reply)

i'm not sure it matters from the perspective of the fact that their way of life doesn't fit in with the most expensive part of london

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:05, Reply)

There have always been itinerant communties in Britain.
They are a good source of traditional music, that has virtually died out in the general populace.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:46, Reply)

You've clearly never heard of 'grime'

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:46, Reply)

This is some kind of black teenage music, right?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:47, Reply)

Alright Captain Placid

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:48, Reply)

I say 'music', it can't be considered music unless it was made on REAL instruments, preferably by white people.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:52, Reply)

traditional music rabies
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:47, Reply)

There have and it's long past time for them to fucking stop it.

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:48, Reply)

Anyway, I don't know what you're fucking talking about.
We've got the Levellers and Mumford and Sons keeping musical traditions alive.

Prick.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:56, Reply)

The Levellers played at the festival I went to at the weekend :(

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:57, Reply)

You must have been in your element with all the
didgeridoos and tin whistles and nose-flutes and bongos present.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:59, Reply)

Yeah!
Then he went to a festival too!
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:59, Reply)

hahaha

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:03, Reply)

:o(

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:59, Reply)

I'm assuming they made the line-up deliberately shit so I didn't feel bad about not seeing much of it on account of having bloody kids with me.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:04, Reply)

Keeping the Accordion in the mainstream since...

( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:55, Reply)

the price for the music used to be a few chickens and copper piping

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:07, Reply)

They should drive around
in a special van with a big ineffectual sign on it saying "Johnny Foreigner GO HOME"
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:49, Reply)

THIS.JUST.MIGHT.WORK!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:50, Reply)

Some would say me, I would say Hartley
Alt: I think I'd buy them all a pint, as I find the whole thing quite funny, but I expect I'm wrong.

ALtAlt: not sure yet, but the local supermarket it doing those Rustlers BBQ rid burgers for £1 each and that's going to be hard to resist.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:51, Reply)

People will always need pegs/heather/laptops stolen, CQ

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:52, Reply)

Well, I'm missing the bit where they've actually done anything illegal.
and seeing a lot of Daily Mail "kick the wogs out" rhetoric. if they've done something illegal, punish them as the law dictates. if they haven't then either leave them be or change the law, either way if they annoy Daily mail readers, good on 'em.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:56, Reply)

Possibly the bit about pickpocketing

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:00, Reply)

Dude, shitting openly on the floor, aggressive begging with children,
con tricks and pickpocketing are all frowned upon in Westminster.

Maybe not true in South London but it is there.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:01, Reply)

These are all noble and ancient traditions, you should show some more respect.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:03, Reply)

*shits openly on floor*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:05, Reply)

*tuts, but doesn't interfere*

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:09, Reply)

the shops and hotels are right to be upset
if their clientele are put off by it. after all, they are big employers/tax payers/draws for people to come to london and spend money here, and their rights should be protected.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:04, Reply)

why are their "rights" more important than anyone elses?
being a rich cunt doesn't "earn" you greater rights.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:34, Reply)

you've misread that
the businesses have a right to operate. we should protect that as it's good for the country.

nobody has a "right" to pickpocket, however. so the practice should be stopped.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:56, Reply)

Begging and pickpocketing are of course illegal
hence a large police operation in London on July 3rd where those caught were charged in accordance with your advice above.
By the way, your rhetoric about "Everyone who disagrees with me is a racist Daily Mail reader." has no validity as an argument.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:09, Reply)

the problem is, old buddy old pal
that their way of life is a bit parasitic. it depends on other people having money to give them, buy things off them, or be dumb enough to have their pockets picked. if everyone lived like that, we'd all starve.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:12, Reply)

So, to pick up a rather telling part of your statement, people who rely on other people buying things off them are parasites?

(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:13, Reply)

it depends
if you pick a freebie wild flower and then try to flog it to someone, then yes
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:16, Reply)

Isn't that just farming?

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:32, Reply)

There really is no point in trying.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:33, Reply)

Not where I live there isn't, no - there's no fields for miles.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:35, Reply)

the thing is, if you woke up to find that a group of people had stolen all your vegetables
and pipework and mugged your wife, you'd be ranting along with everyone else. a bleeding heart only bleeds so far, sunshine.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:37, Reply)

I don't think any part of my rant would automatically assume that the crimes had be carried out by a certain group of people becuase of their ethnicity, though
becuase I'm not a racist cunt.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:40, Reply)

hmmmmm
i'd like to say i agree with this. but the reality is, that if a gypsy encampment moved into the area and suddenly things like copper pipes went missing overnight, i would probably draw assumptions. i blame the media, can't possibly be my own fault for that.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:47, Reply)

"Drawing assumptions"
QV Blacks, Jews, "Yardies", "Pakis", women can't (your gripe here).
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:49, Reply)

no, this was on a one very specific point
i wouldn't normally draw assumptions. if you live in london you see so much cuntery from so many different people that all your assumptions tend to fly out of the window
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:52, Reply)

Oh, right.
So you'd just assume it's the blacks, then?

Or the Jews?
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:54, Reply)

ALL OF THEM

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:54, Reply)

So why focus on the Romanians?

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:58, Reply)

Hang on, where am I saying this isn't a problem?
Don't you project yourself onto me. I merely questioned why you felt that on the one hand " they are big employers/tax payers/draws for people to come to london and spend money here, and their rights should be protected" and yet on the other hand you say that people who sell things to other people are parasites.

Can't you see the huge inconsistency in what you've written?
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:41, Reply)

no, al
i can see you doing what you do, trying to read between the lines to be "clever" or "edgy" or "funny".

of course there is a difference between manufacturing something, and employing people to do it, and paying rent, and wages, and hiring outsourcing companies, etc etc. even if you make it yourself from scratch, if you buy the equipment, you are adding to the economy.

nicking stuff and selling it with the whole cash going in your back pocket not the same. you know that and i know that.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:43, Reply)

Picking wild flowers is "nicking stuff"?

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:46, Reply)

there are different laws on that
depends which bit of the plant you pick, blah blah. i suspect the flower beds in hyde park belong to the crown, but don't know that for a fact.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:48, Reply)

What I'm actually doing is drawing attention to your highly inconsistent viewpoint regarding "rights"
You've said that a business should have the right over a person simply because it makes more money.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:48, Reply)

no, al
that is not what i said.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:49, Reply)

See below

(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:55, Reply)

Well it sort of is.
I mean - it's an absolutely petty point, but you did say "it depends on other people having money to ... buy things off them".

Which is, er ... capitalism. Lowest possible outlay, highest possible price.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:51, Reply)

I'd be interested to see how funny he'd find it
if they were camping on his street. Guildford regularly used to get gypsies squatting on commons and parks when I was growing up and the crime rate used to rocket.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:13, Reply)

i don't know why anyone would find it funny that people get pickpocketed or mugged
apart from al, he probably gives them wing mirror kicking lessons
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:17, Reply)

We have a big family in Oxford, and the occasional group roll in to the surrounding fields,
This time if year there are loads, clearly taking advantage of the influx of rich tourists on university conferences and stuff.
When oxford hosted a TED thing last year there were gypo everywhere, and it's clear they're here to scalp and steal. It shouldn't be allowed.
The police told all the pubs on cowley road to shut when there was a bug gypsy funeral at the church. These are not nice people and I can't see how you're going to fundamentally change an ingrained culture without something drastic.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:21, Reply)

Are you advocating another holocaust here?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:23, Reply)

YES
but not necessarily against gypsies. there are lots of people i would burn, including:

stupid people
chavs
people who've been caught stealing more than 3 times
the cunt who broke into my car
hot women
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:29, Reply)

Have you considered moving to Saudi Arabia or somewhere?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:32, Reply)

why, does it have none of the above?
somehow i doubt that. i think they are endemic everywhere.

well, apart from the car thief.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:36, Reply)

no-one "broke" into your car
you left the door open, you daft apath.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:38, Reply)

i'm not sure that's right, i think it got fiddled with
but even if i did, i should be able to do that without fear of some cunt rummaging through it looking for stuff to nick. i hate thievery, i hate it so much.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:41, Reply)

Rubbish
nobody picks locks on modern cars as they are impossible to start. If someone is going to rummage through a car they break a window.

You left your car unlocked.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:44, Reply)

ok, and the self locking feature which kicks in after 2 minutes didn't work, by coincidence?
it is possible. but i'm not sure.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:51, Reply)

That's because, as has been amply demonstrated on here time and time again, you are quite a stupid person.
The self locking feature will only work if you unlock the doors then don't open them after two minutes. If you jsut turn off your engine and get out of the car, it would be a stupid system indeed that simply locked your doors after two minutes.

What if you jsut popped into a shop and left your keys behind?
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:00, Reply)

I know I am.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:31, Reply)

I knew you would be.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:32, Reply)

There's a permanent traveller's site* just a mile or so from my home
The pub over the road from it tried to stay open but failed, then when it closed the building was trashed and anything of value was stripped from the place and the car park became their dumping ground.

*Yeah, I know - irony.
(Captain Placid 24/7 ball gags, brownie mix and clown porn, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:26, Reply)

this is the problem
it is not a way of life that makes for nice people, i think.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:29, Reply)

Whereas of course if everyone were lawyers and financiers we'd have enough food to feed the world, right?
Ah, no. that other thing. We'd all starve too.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:35, Reply)

nah
the lawyers would eat the financiers

we'd be fine
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:38, Reply)

It's their oooman rights to be complete and utter scurges on humanity.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:51, Reply)

Do your lot not feel any empathy with them?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:54, Reply)

Of course not, what am I saying? They hate anyone who hasn't been 'chosen by God'

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:54, Reply)

Not really.... if you mean the jews thing, the jews didn't come here and stand around in parks drinking and swearing at people all day every day....
... and dramaticly increasing their crime rates of their local area.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:56, Reply)

They have at various times been considered scourges on humanity

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:58, Reply)

Yeah', but that was mostly by people they lent money too who didn't want to pay it back.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:02, Reply)

Or 'Monty'

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:03, Reply)

b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post2041149
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:03, Reply)

Yup

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:03, Reply)

^
A related point was made last week about the self-funded Jewish 'learn English and integrate' schools which were opened in the last century.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:01, Reply)

Not really.
Why should I?
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:31, Reply)

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-23600037

Panesar: England cricketer Boyce
bouncers "coons"
( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:57, Reply)

My threads are pretty shit, I do try though.
alt. 90 days is a long time for a holiday visa. I reckon people would be lessed fussed if there wasn't trouble with the minority. As is the basis for every form of bigotry.

Still, what's wrong with travelling round Romania in caravans?

altalt. Im eating fruit all week for lunch and cooking a meal when I get in. I had best shift some beer podge or I won't be happy.
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:58, Reply)

I've lost 5lbs in two weeks
Running FTW
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 11:59, Reply)

I will attempt running when my pot belleh has gone.
It's not massive but I would be conscious!
Also, fearing the impending heart attack
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:00, Reply)

Fuck that
Just go running - it'll soon deflate*

* just like your heart
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:03, Reply)

Can we get some clarity here on whether we are discussing Romanies or Romanians?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:01, Reply)

No.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:05, Reply)

ROMULANS

( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:11, Reply)

THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME, TANGERS!

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:14, Reply)

Cannibal.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:51, Reply)

Also.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23597233

I suspect this has been broached already.
Bongo bongo land is such an old man expression.
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:00, Reply)

Also
I thought the idea of 'travelling' was that you would travel the length and breadth of the country, spending a night here and a night there.
So why do they insist on setting up camp somewhere and wanting to stay? Wouldn't that make them 'stayers'?

EDIT: three times I've tried that now, and it's still in the wrong place.

I should just give up and go home.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:03, Reply)

ninja cunt

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:03, Reply)

I blame low blood sugar.
And being shit.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:04, Reply)

I blame the gyppoes

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:06, Reply)

did they nick her blood sugar?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:07, Reply)

I wouldn't put it past them

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:09, Reply)

We had some here last month.
They were ostensibly gathering for a 'Christian festival of light'.

Everyone knew it was a cover up for a two-family punch up. There was apparently a £1m prize on the head of the head of one of the families.

Read that carefully - it does make sense, honestly.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:08, Reply)

Two pikeys knocking ten bells oout of each other?
I'd pay to watch that.

Then shoot the cunts dead.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:13, Reply)

Hahah!!
I was VERY confused there for a minute. Needs moar coffee
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:12, Reply)

Why do you have 2 lunches fatty?

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:08, Reply)

it's a choice, fanta pants
i brought sushi, but now i have a meeting which will provide sandwiches
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:13, Reply)

I like sushi a lot.
What sort of sushi is it? It better not be that shite people buy in supermarkets.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:15, Reply)

it's a little japanese restaurant near my office that makes it fresh in front of you
i like it because they use wholegrain rice
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:18, Reply)

Ok, I'm persuaded by the arguments put across here and think we should implement a strict 'send them all back' policy on all non-indigenous peoples present in the UK
Where should we take it back to?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:10, Reply)

1900

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:12, Reply)

Don't be a prick, Tangles.
I am assuming you're having a troll, but in case you're not, you really need to dial down on the hyperbolic straw man.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:14, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post2041159
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:15, Reply)

lol
To answer your question, mid-Sixties. That way I'll be safe.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:18, Reply)

my family are irish
not sure when they moved over here. does ireland count?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:19, Reply)

Definitely.
pikeys are Irish, innit.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:19, Reply)

i'm rachel not rory

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:20, Reply)

You bogtrotters are all the same to me.

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:21, Reply)

We're all descended from forrins
The closest we've got to true Britons are the Welsh, Cornish and Irish.
And they all travelled up from Ethiopia at some point.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:21, Reply)

Celts came from Hungary.
The English are genetically just as Celtic as the Welsh.

It's all pointless talking about this. The problem is in itinerant squatters shooting the crime rate up, not settled immigrant communities. If this wasn't so painfully typical of the usually middle-class hemp wearers that romanticise gypsies and druids and all the rest of it I wouldn't be bothering to comment at all.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:24, Reply)

They're so mysterious and exotic, aren't they?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:25, Reply)

My problem is that I get annoyed by stupidity even when I know perfectly well it's being put on for lols

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:27, Reply)

As with all irredeemable problems, there is stupidity on both sides. Lols or otherwise.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:29, Reply)

I just don't see why a settled community should be expected to put up with
a tiny minority of people that absolutely refuse to respect the laws of the land. It wouldn't be put up with in any other group of people, so why this lot?
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:33, Reply)

What group wouldn't it be put up with in then?

(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:34, Reply)

iran has a special machine for removing the fingers of thieves

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:35, Reply)

Name me another group of immigrants that haven't largely settled down and accepted British law.

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:36, Reply)

No, you said "It wouldn't be put up with in any other group of people"
so you must have an example of another group of people who "refuse to respect the laws of the land" and haven't been put up with.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:38, Reply)

Oh, I see your point.
Fair enough, I guess the last lot would have been the Nazis.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:42, Reply)

I'm not being entirely serious, I do see your point.
I think you probably do see mine, though. A specific group of people are utterly refusing to live by British law and for some reason are having a blind eye turned so long as they don't take the piss. I genuinely don't believe that would be happening if they weren't using the "oh it's our culture to wander" as a cover for an insitutionally criminal lifestyle.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:45, Reply)

Aren't the stealing and the wandering two entirely separate facets?
Or are you proposing the latter be criminalised as well?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:48, Reply)

When the wandering coincides with trespass and squatting on land that's owned by somebody
that would be a crime, yes. Two, actually.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:52, Reply)

trespass isn't a crime
but, no-one (well, I'm not) is disputing your point.

What I am fucking strongly disputing is the argument this lot haven't been nicked because of some "cultural" or ethnicity thing. That's utter horseshit. They haven't been nicked for the same reason anyone else isn't nicked. Not enough evidence, not enough police time and not worth the bother.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:56, Reply)

I'm not saying they haven't been nicked for cultural reasons
I'm saying that they're using their culture as an excuse to move around and rob people.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:00, Reply)

No they aren't
They might or might not be robbing people.

they are using their culture as reason to move around.

these two things are not the same.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:10, Reply)

If you genuinely don't believe that
then you've read too much fucking Daily Mail and there's little hope for you.

Organised criminal begging, trespass, pickpocketing has been going on in London with limited police interference for hundreds of fucking years. This lot are not have "a blind eye" turned to them any more than any other beggars or petty theives are. You've just been listening to too much xenophobic rhetoric.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:50, Reply)

Haven't read the Daily Mail in years.
Yes, crime of all sorts has been going on for years. The fact remains that it spikes when a particular community arrives, suggesting that they operate with an institutional disregard for the law.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:53, Reply)

no.
it spikes when a group of people who happen to be criminals arrive. you want to judge a whole ethnic community by the actions of those people, you're a racist. And an idiot. "institutional disregard for the law" my arse. Are you writing speeches for UKIP now?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:59, Reply)

Are you telling me that local crime rates don't spike when a traveller community arrives?

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:03, Reply)

I've not the faintest idea
I haven't looked into it

But I certainly wouldn't just assume it was the case without thinking. Just like I don't assume that all young black men are drug dealing murderers. But, hey, whatever keeps you feeling liberal, my man.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:05, Reply)

I'm going on my own experience.
When I was a child we'd have frequent traveller camps in my area. They weren't just one ethnic group by any means, but every time they'd turn up the incidents of assault, burglaries, robberies and car theft would spike noticeably.

Perhaps that does make me prejudiced against traveller communities. Frankly, I'm OK with that. What I'm not is racist. Traveller communities come from all different ethnic backgrounds. "Travellers" are not a race.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:12, Reply)

You do know that's the same fucking argument the EDL and BNP use about Islam, right?
fucking hell.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:14, Reply)

Oh, come on, for fuck's sake.
Now you're just being insulting.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:17, Reply)

And so are you.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:18, Reply)

no, I'm not.
The "it's not racist because Islam isn't a race so THERE" argument is bandied all the time by those fuckwits.

You're prejudiced against a particular group of society. Yes, semantically, it's not racism. Neither is sexism, or homophobia. You reckon they are "better"?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:22, Reply)

Yes, you are.
The reason for this is that you are judging this whole group of people from Romania as criminals simply by virtue of the fact that they have come from somewhere else and are living in a way you don't like.

Nobody likes the criminal element that is almost certainly present amongst this group, but nobody likes the criminal element anywhere.

But you really can't see just how prejudicial your argument are can you?
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:17, Reply)

Well, for one thing I'm not the one assuming travellers are all from Romania, you are.

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:18, Reply)

Did you miss the original post?
Because you've spent a long time arguing here for someone who doesn't know full well that we are discussing a group gypsies who are allegedly form Romania living in Hyde Park, I mean, I'm not suggesting you're clutching at straws here, but you do actually talk about Hyde Park quite specifically in the post below.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:20, Reply)

*This* group of gypsies may be from Romania.
I was talking about my experience with travellers in general. I've twice referenced it in my posts and specifically stated that I'm not targetting one group of travellers over another.

My problem with travellers, with ALL travellers, is that the crime rate spikes when they arrive somewhere and that my sympathies lie much further towards the lives that are getting disrupted. I don't think a travelling culture is a decent excuse to allow them to spike the crime rate in this way.

I am not the one making this a racial argument.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:24, Reply)

For fucks sake, this is jsut ridiculous.
www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post2041416

I'm glad you're so happy being prejudiced against groups of people because of the way they lives whilst being blissfully unaware of what sort of person that makes you.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:26, Reply)

I don't think anyone is turning a blind eye
I think you're simply making up facts to suit your argument.

I think that if the gypsies on Park Lane, or the Irish Travellers are found to have commited a crime they will be charged in exactly the same way that someone who lives on your street would be.

I also think that you are proposing that these people should be criminalised by virtue of existing and I think you should be honest about that rather than trying to hide it and saying "oh but you know what I mean don't you, it's those types that are doing it"

I think there is far more of a problem with a blind eye being turned to police officers who abuse people in custody, to people who commit large scale business fraud and to the rights of working people not to be forced into zero hours contracts and I happen to think that these issues are actually a lot more damaging to the country than the actions of a few individual petty criminals, much as I dislike anyone who would rather live a life of crime rather than actually working at a legitamate job.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:53, Reply)

If they existed without spiking local crime rates I woudln't have a problem with them at all.
Despite what you clearly seem to believe, I'm pretty liberal about how people choose to live their lives. My problem is that people shouldn't be able to trample on other peoples' rights in the doing of it.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:57, Reply)

But by your argument you are demonstrating that you aren't in fact being that liberal

(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:59, Reply)

I guess I'm not being terribly liberal about people committing crimes, no.

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:02, Reply)

Stop falling back on that
nobody is arguing that criminals shouldn't be prosecuted, but you are actually arguing that this cultural group are inherently criminal and you apparently can't see how racist a viewpoint that is.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:04, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post2041382
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:12, Reply)

what "rights" are being trampled on, here?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:59, Reply)

Ownership of land, mostly.
Or of property.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:01, Reply)

Who "owns" Hyde Park?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:02, Reply)

Me

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:03, Reply)

Then, I agree, Boyce's rights are being infringed

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:03, Reply)

Hyde Park Owner's Corporation.
I'll have a dig through and find their rules on camping, should I?
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:04, Reply)

please do.
I'm sure they're undergoing a huge number of sleepless nights over this and are grateful for your deep concern about their "rights"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:06, Reply)

Well if they're not bothered about it, then there's no problem, is there?

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:09, Reply)

I suspect they are a million times less bothered about it than the Metro or the Mail
or apparently a fair number of people here.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:11, Reply)

The right of "really quite liberal" people
to get on their soapboxes about the dirty forrin criminals whilst still retaining their liberal badge.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:01, Reply)

Pakis

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:39, Reply)

Nignogs

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:39, Reply)

Paddies

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:39, Reply)

Lithuanians

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:39, Reply)

Chinkies

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:40, Reply)

& Titch

( Reginald Donkeyfuck, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:40, Reply)

hahahahahah

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:40, Reply)

The British.

( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:40, Reply)

*doubleseats*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:41, Reply)

No one should have to put up with anyone breaking laws, regardless of where they are from or how they choose to live.
I don't think the law makes exceptions for anyone though.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:36, Reply)

Apart from Jeffrey Archer.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:37, Reply)

Well I mean, the man's a national hero.
We should make exceptions for him.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:39, Reply)

You won't hear me complaning about LORD Archer's charmed life!
His books are excellent.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:40, Reply)

I'd like to think so, but in this case I'm not certain I agree.

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:37, Reply)

See above.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:39, Reply)

Fazackerly
It should be about behaviour, not ethnicity.
Fit in or fuck off seems to work in countries at least as civilised as ours.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:34, Reply)

Precisely.

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:37, Reply)

'Fit in or fuck off'
I like this! I like it a lot.
(Captain Placid 24/7 ball gags, brownie mix and clown porn, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:38, Reply)

bollocks it is
the problem is that people seem to think the country of origin of said itinerant squatters is somehow relevant to how they should be dealt with.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:45, Reply)

I don't think I've mentioned a country of origin at all.
I've said "gypsies", and "squatters" etc. I don't care where they're from, I care about how they behave.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:55, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post2041089

no problem.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:01, Reply)

then where's my lovely ethiopian melanin?
why am i as pasty as a fucking onion?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:27, Reply)

Poor breeding.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:29, Reply)

excuse me
my parents were only half brother and sister
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:30, Reply)

aisle three, next to the pineapples

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:38, Reply)

GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:20, Reply)

home to the home counties

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:20, Reply)

1992

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:16, Reply)

1700

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:29, Reply)

I wouldn't work past 5pm anyway.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:31, Reply)

1066
say suttin'
( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:44, Reply)

You.
alt: shoot the cunts. Actually shoot them dead.

altalt: Mint Leaf Lounge.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:12, Reply)

Yez pliz khamagen

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:28, Reply)

Should be a boozy one.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:38, Reply)

wel jel :o(

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:41, Reply)

Darth
Alt: Burn their fucking caravans down.

AltAlt: Home made chicken, sweetcorn and noodle soup.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:26, Reply)

Alt: I think it's quite funny; it surprises me that it hasn't had more coverage. Generally travellers are something that happen to other people, so for it to happen there is pretty lol.
Alt: the usual - a wrap, and a banana.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:30, Reply)

Kill the men, rape the women, sell the kids into slavery and eat their dags
But fuck all that, what are we gonna do about people that eat with their fingers and 'Grantham' them with a great big fuckoff slurp. Dirty fucking cunts.
( Reginald Donkeyfuck, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:32, Reply)

+Run to the hiiiiiiillllls

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:39, Reply)

Are there any carp in the water in Hyde Park?

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:39, Reply)

not any more

( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:39, Reply)

lol

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:41, Reply)

haha

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:57, Reply)

They were all sacrificed for the Diana water feature
QUEEN OF R HARTS.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:09, Reply)