Down with meritocracy
Article by the writer who coined "meritocracy"
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toby young's dad
both cunts
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 23:53,
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Oh
and I suppose you think poor people should get a good education
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 23:54, Reply)
Of course poor people should be educated
Otherwise all of my wit would zoom straight over your heads.
Rather than just 90 per cent.
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 0:05,
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Is it 2001 again?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 10:29,
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Friday 29 June 2001 02.59 BST
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 10:30,
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The last great American president
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 23:44,
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Cool he brought up Eisenhower
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWiIYW_fBfY
is that a CNN video?
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Not sure
He actually comes across really well.
Hunter Thompson always seemed to rather like him in a twisted way. They liked talking about football.
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 0:06,
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In what context do you see this clip
applying to our current situation?
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Politics dude
Who can operate. He could. Why? are you picking up a vibe? That's just the chemtrails. Fnord
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 0:26,
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there's a defo conection between watergate
and the Clinton cover ups. This election is epic
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what headgear are you wearing tonight?
shiny side out or in? It makes a difference.
www.theonion.com/article/study-38-percent-of-people-not-actually-entitled-t-5701
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 0:52,
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I'm no conspiracy theorist if that's what you're alluding to
my post yesterday may suggest otherwise I know, but that's another point.
I like to consider myself a realist if anything, so go on!...
I'm perfectly happy to debate or chat about it. I'd like to have the most unbiased opinion of it all as I can.
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I only lurk these days
but this is so tiresome I don't even do that much. Clinton is a crook, Trump is an arse. I'm not in the USA so can't vote for either. We get it.
(, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 2:43, Reply)
look
We're on the same page, but you need to tell that to the people who post the trump posts numerous times a day. Not me.
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they were all scared shitless of LBJ haha
Nixon reminds me of Gordon Brown here a bit. Dont know why, cant imagine Brown being as candid about his peers
(, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 10:51, Reply)
Email Leak Reveals Clinton Ignored Calls for Aid From Nigerian Prince
Thank god we have Julian Assange's Wikileaks to ensure we're all woke.
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BaronMunchausen Interdimensional Demon Day Laborer, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 22:39,
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Deplorable.
Trump replies to every email, even the penis enlargement ones.
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 23:15,
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Save your racist iconography for reddit
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 10:28,
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oh Jesus!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIf3X403kH0
On the other hand, I can't tell if you're just trolling posting from a pro Hillary site or serious.
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Cool quandary bro!
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BaronMunchausen Interdimensional Demon Day Laborer, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 0:23,
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It's not like your powers of discernment or perception are in question or anything.
(, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 11:45, Reply)
Skiers v Kids = Skids
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9udxbvHiqGw
Ahoy!
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spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 22:12,
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Needs more Trump vs Hilary
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 22:37,
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I just bet some of them have
potty mouths
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 0:10,
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If skipping was an olympic sport
I'm looking at this and thinking there's a case for it
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Bootsthealchemist is barred from the Masterchef Facebook page, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 21:53,
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I thought you meant skipping as in skipping down the road as in not with a rope
I would pay to see the 400m skip
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 23:13, Reply)
I skipped down the road the other day, just messing about with my niece
and it was lovely. Felt really nice and efficient, and I got a surprising amount of speed up. Didn't look good, but I recommend having a skip every now and then.
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gingerfreak Why? Why not., Sat 1 Oct 2016, 10:02,
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I guess it's the wrong kind of silly-bugger-hop-about for the Olympics
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This is where it is:
https://kungfury.vhx.tv/updates/hackermans-time-hacking-tutorial
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sm.pl.crt.rs I don't fucking know, do I?, Sun 2 Oct 2016, 19:36,
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The New Loretta Hotel in Llandudno
Excellent reviews including “What S...t hole" and “Wipe your feet on the way out not on the way in."
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Boris Johnson's Press Secretary, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:35,
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Please Dignitas before I end up on a National Bus Holiday in a shit hole like this
Fortunately I have no children who will wheel me over the sticky carpet.
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spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:50,
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hmmm
"Although the room was clean there was not room to swing a cat around in it. The bathroom was small and the walk in shower was a joke. It was almost impossible to move at all once you had managed to close the door, and that was only possible if you were a very tiny person" - a standard central London hotel room then costing at least 5 x as much.
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 21:26, Reply)
or my London 'budget fave'
www.eurohotelharrow.co.uk/ - what was I thinking?
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 21:29, Reply)
Can you pay for an hour?
Just asking for a friend.
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spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 22:00,
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Still a Civic though
I mean, it's no Accord...
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:55,
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My Civic's gone the West Indies ...........
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spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:38,
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ahem
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPFZrRD3J8&feature=youtu.be&t=64
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Marxist Pig Better Red Than Smeg, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:56,
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Their run on Nordschleife is bordering on false advertisement : p
They've made an amazing lap with preproduction car, it cannot be replicated with production one though from what I've heard.
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omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:03,
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350z is very underrated car
www.youtube.com/watch?v=of4TvLas1TM
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omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 21:23,
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It seems it also really easy to sort out the chassis
Only a bunch of bushings and sways bars are needed to make it serious fast.
No cutting steel or geometry changes.
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Nissan FM platform?
C'était un rendez-vous
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwgwf-Pdsj8
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omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 9:06,
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Does it come with a free flat cap for the driver?
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Boris Johnson's Press Secretary, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:37,
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Lack of style over substance.
Wasn't this absolutely trounced by a Golf R in a recent test or other? Plus it looks ridiculous.
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Hugh Breeze likes it. A Lot., Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:49,
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Civic typer?
Sounds like a shit secretarial job.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 10:53,
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The explorer Howard Carter working on the inner coffin of Tutankhamun
I made this!
Long time lurker, second time poster.
Is this anything?
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:39, Reply)
I'm very much reminded of Conrad Pooh
So it gets my vote, more please.
(Long time? You need candles for that;))
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Blind Meach Cautiously optimistic, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:45,
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yeah, get your head out of your cunt, we're all agreeable here
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Woodkovsky ☹️➝🚻➝🚽➝😣➝💩➝🧻➝😁, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 23:57,
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Clinton shenanigans
starting to really come out, the big surprise dump of emails sometime next month.
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Oh, for fuck's sake.
Can we please stop posting US political crap here? If I wanted to see this tedious grudge match I'd turn on the news.
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jonbob loves you, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:45,
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THANK YOU!
although it would have been nice to get the same response from the many trump postings. Esp as this is quite a serious post, no one want to talk about this though, right?
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That's because it's boring and was dealt with
But what else are all the mouth breathers going to focus on now that 'birther' turned out to be Hillary's idea?
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Sweeping under the carpet isn't dealing with it
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:15,
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So after her servers, you are going after her carpet?
How is she going to tie the room together now?
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:16, Reply)
not even Bill's going near her carpet!
he's still out dickin' bimbos! lol
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If you were an ex US president and had bimbos lining up outside your door...
...what would you do?
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:42, Reply)
DICKEM
EDIT: actually, it didn't stop him at all when he WAS in office hahaha
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makes no difference to Bill
in and out of office! fnar fnar
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Not dealt with at all
This is what's happening right now, this was just a day or two ago.
Thee case is hung right now because of immunity being handed out to everyone, so nothing can go forward. It's literally a cover up, plain as day.
But like I say, a batch of the BIG important mails will be released next month. It's just in the process of being verified and legit atm.
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I don't know why you're thanking me.
Fuck Clinton.
Fuck Trump.
Fuck the pair of them, I've long passed the point of not caring and now I'm sick of hearing about the whole affair.
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jonbob loves you, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:28,
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us both
I'm not adverse to posting a bit of corruption though. Politics, business or stuff like that. Don't you find it interesting? better than someone who called someone something, oh noes!
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Well I watched it.
He's good but he's no Keith Vaz.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 11:21,
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Utter cockwomble misses point and impressively manages to outwanker himself
Miss Piggy aka Miss Housekeeping is pretty and fucks? A battle worth fighting! Totally justified in calling her names because....?
What a fucking arsehole. It doesn't matter a rat's gonad if this woman dines out on fried kittens every night, he talks and acts like a proper cunt. Maybe that's why he's popular.
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Have the Mexicans started building it?
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 18:59,
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According a Mexican brewer, they are building a beer wall. That sounds quite excellent.
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:33, Reply)
So this is fine to post
but Clinton stuff isn't? lol
And this is just preaching to the choir. Same as every other outlet. I think it's you who's missed the point here, none of these posts seem to make any difference at all. It's like Bush jr all over again, same old smears.
He won remember. Twice.
The more this stuff gets spread, the harder the reaction to it.
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You do see the difference between vague smears about the behaviour of campaign teams following a debate
and the actual words of a presidential candidate, don't you?
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 18:51,
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Yes
Also corruption and lies from the current administration/candidate, cover ups and bullying are also an issue.
But, keep posting anti Trump propaganda to the converted. Let's see how that's going. She's losing.
To Trump, is she really such a winner? I think you guys are deluding yourselves.
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He's a Grade-A cunt, and he vigorously defends his cuntishness.
That's not propaganda, that's my opinion. It's a mere coincidence that this view is shared by most of the world and has been for a long time.
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:51, Reply)
That's the really concerning thing
She's fucking up her campaign the same way the remain camp did - by telling the opposition supporters they're all mental racists and failing to talk to them like actual functioning human beings.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:51,
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I didn't say losing
I said fucking up.
Also be careful with polls. There weren't many that said Brexit or the last Tory general election win was on were there?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:13,
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My thought is tha Trump is hands down winning
I've checked out both sides rallies. Clinton's (if she can be bothered) does one here and there with small crowds. Trump has even turned away thousands, not enough room.
She has way less twitter followers and way less on reddit and whatever, like, loads way less.
For all the hype on TV about her, she's STILL losing.
If you watch what's going on, there's a real anger about the reality of what's happening and the media version. That's exactly why facts don't make any difference at all in this election.
Most people know about the Clinton cover ups over the years, she's just been involved in too many things.
Her time was last time she ran. It's too late for her now.
And the final nail in the coffin, I think, will be what seems to be her involvement with shutting down Sanders with dirty tricks. So any Sanders voters on the fence will jump to Trump. And if these racism videos come out (which there's talk of), the black vote will go to Trump.
This is just my prediction of what's going to happen.
Like I say, I don't really care who wins.
Shirley I can't be the only one seeing this?
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Actually that particular site had it neck and neck right to the last
and the FT couldn't have been in UKIPs pocket because they are in Trump's
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Don't trust polls
both sides have different versions of the truth. I don't think they mean anything.
What I think does count are people who are active. I mean, show up at rallies, make posters and walk around streets. Real people, who do stuff like vote.
Right now, Trump looks to be way ahead in that department. Check for yourself, he had to turn away thousands just the other day. Thousands!
Hillary doesn't seem to have the numbers or seems to want to go out rallying, meeting people and all that. If you're a supporter, doesn't that piss you off? I mean, what is she doing?
Look at the way bands work, they tour. Get it out there, but she's not doing it and Trump is.
What it's coming down to this election is not facts, who said what or to who, it's about exactly the opposite. Clinton hasn't grasped that yet. It will be her undoing.
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look
I'm not out to promote Trump. Here's a video I made if this means anything www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocm0IH2Lgto
Or to put Hillary down. Why does it bother you so much?
Surely you're not saying this should be a pro Hillary site and not allowed to suggest other sides to the story?
you can get that at /r/hillaryclinton/ or /r/politics .
If you're a trump supporter you can get that at /r/The_Donald/
I'd like to think B3Ta was above that bullshit censorship of posts. Mods or users.
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Both sides can fuck right off.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 6:18,
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HC is a politician, DT is a salesman
DT has been a cunt to his business partners, his contractors, his staff, his customers, and anyone that criticises him. I watched several seasons of his TV show and the cunt didn't once form an opinion based on anything other than a gauge of what everyone else in the room thought was popular.
The fact that others see the above and somehow perceive him as a 'winner' is just depressing.
The possibility that this guy will be heading the US's engagement with the ROTW is simply terrifying. This is why I care.
That's also why, during the debate, HC took time out from pimping herself to the electorate to address/reassure leaders in other countries. DT is promising to shake them down for cash for the US's continued military defences and at the same time promising to make their imports more expensive. He's also extremely blasé about nuclear proliferation and would doubtlessly enjoy a 'small' nuclear war somewhere unimportant. They must be shitting themselves at what crazy thing the crazy country will do next.
HC is a politician. This is the minimum job requirement. If she gets in the ROTW will just get on with the rest of its day. Who gives a fuck about emails?
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" I watched several seasons of his TV show and the cunt didn't once form an opinion based on anything other than a gauge of what everyone else in the room thought was popular. "
So what you're saying is despite being a cunt you still bought his product for several seasons? Also that he apparently listens to people around him rather than do what he wants?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 10:59,
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Watching TV =/= buying his product
We're fans of the UK apprentice, so we were watching both shows at some point on the BBC
Week after week, Trump utterly failed to formulate any opinions whatsoever without some kind of 'show of hands'. He rarely if ever betrayed any thought process or values of his own. Alan Sugar is a Mensa genius by comparison.
(, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 11:54, Reply)
Also
see Brexit.
And second Bush term election for good comparison.
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I think there is truth in this,
but I really don't know what politicians are supposed to do against all the post-fact shite that does so well.
If they join in, it validates it, and leads to even more dumbing down.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 0:11,
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I know what you mean
but, my point, I think you missed (probably due to my lack of explaining well tbh) is that, like you say " I really don't know what politicians are supposed to do against all the post-fact shite that does so well.
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please excuse me using your own words, but it illustrates my point.
If you look at the way you've worded it, it comes across instantly as the exact kind of phrasing that a Trump supporter would instantly dismiss. It's this kind of phrasing and talk that triggers that demographic. Now, look online, you'll see a huge support for Trump.
If anything, it has a negative impact for the Clinton campaign. Any support for this phrasing is preaching to the choir, and that choir is not active as far as real life goes (going to rallies, voting, making signs for their yards etc. etc.) But that kind of phrasing is actively pushing people to react, which in turn, turns into votes.
You're a long time member like me, doesn't this whole Pepe the frog being branded a hate symbol bother you?
You, like me, Rob, even down to Ben Wheatley who's doing well now.
If we go down this path, and say, something happens where this site gets classed as a hate speech site (we all know we tread a thin line here with our sense of humour). What then?
Maybe we go to a job interview, some association with a hate group. Ben makes a legit political film? instant dismissal because of an association to a 'hate speech site'.
I'm more than a little concerned about that if I'm honest and I think we as a community should address it. I don't want to be classed as a racist because I posted here over the years.
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I think it's far harder to gain left wing
votes based on emotions than right wing ones. Right wing groups can use far more tribalist sentiment and fear. It's Britain First vs Jeremy 4 PM stuff on Facebook. They both cherry pick information for the sake of emotion instead of rationality, but Britain First are going "You should be scared about this" rather than "You should think this man is great" - people are going to sit up and take notice of anything that may put them in danger or makes them angry. Neither use logic in their arguments, but what's to be done?
All the recent censorship-of-speech and public-shaming stuff is scary, but I don't really see that as a left-right issue - look how offended right wing people get about a stupid left wing idea. Christian Voice and the Jerry Springer stuff aren't really different to someone wanting to ban Germaine Greer from a university. Both should be ridiculed rather than it becomming yet another partisan thing.
I really blame social media for most of this shit - you only see one side of a conversation, it's easy to get an online mob together of people who think the same way as you, and it seems people will abuse any power they are given. Saw social media blamed for a rise in mental health issues, and it really doesn't surprise me. It can be toxic for debate.
In terms of b3ta, I suspect there is safety in obsfucation. We tend to use avatars (in your case, good look to anyone searching "tits" to try and find dirt on you), and because people have to sign up before they can call you a cunt, are less likely to form a mob around it - it's not instant pleasure for them, research would be required to trace someone (since no one ever bothers to even do a reverse image search before sharing an angry meme, that's unlikely), and its hard to do any virtue signalling on a threaded messageboard when comments are seen in context.
It's the data that's saved by the likes of Facebook that scares me far more - that's the stuff that's going to be scraped and used to profile you in future. I've seen plenty of people click 'like' on quite innocent sounding posts by far right groups - "here's a stock picture of a poppy - share if you don't hate our veterans" etc.
By cherry picking from so much data on our internet history, anyone can be made out to be anything.
(Reading a book at the moment called Future Crimes on how our internet data is stored - fucking terrifying)
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monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 10:59,
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I've never considered that people on here might be virtue signalling
What a terrible thought
(, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 11:44, Reply)
What's obvious is he doesn't have any advisors
or if he does he completely ignores them.
Which is slightly mental for someone running for office for the President of the United States
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Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:10,
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Someone seems to have uploaded
the Jonathan Ross appearance again:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DOdwT3FQfQ
Marc Wootton's management taking it down in 5...4...3....
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monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:00,
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I'm not sure it was as damaging as people made out.
His fans will have got the joke, and La La Land felt more extreme, so I'm not sure he was too held back by it.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:31,
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if I remember correctly
it was an awful show. I think the guy from friends and Skully from xfiles.
It defo set him back though, shame.
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Have you ever crapped in a pram?
"Probably, when I was 6 months old."
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gingerfreak Why? Why not., Fri 30 Sep 2016, 21:48,
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I usually found myself
finding his characters more likable than the contestants.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 21:25,
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Even with the more sympathetic contestants
I'd just think "you're making your friends and family feel like shit for 10 grand?"
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gingerfreak Why? Why not., Fri 30 Sep 2016, 21:51,
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Gladiators dance remix
I made this!
You go on my first whistle etc.
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 14:50, Reply)
His mother obv had a thing for bulls.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 15:00,
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hemorrhoids?
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mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 12:03,
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Ryder Cup heckler urged to put his money where his mouth is in Minnesota
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 14:28,
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Just taaaap it in. Tap tap taparoo
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Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 14:34,
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Spalding, this calls for the old Billy Baroo.
Ohh billybillybillybillybilly.
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After you my dear Alfonse No. After you., Fri 30 Sep 2016, 15:27,
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Ha ha, I don't like people who even talk around golf courses, but that is brilliant.
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fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Sun 2 Oct 2016, 18:38,
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Starts off a bit boring but it gets interesting around two minutes in
And then it gets boring again
My favourite bit is when he goes "YOYOYOARGHLSHGHEHGGHGAAGAEGH"
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 12:25, Reply)
It just goes to show,
that ultimately both sides, left or right, are made mostly out of ill educated angry morons, ready to lend their unthinking support to whichever douche bag pretends to care about them.
The supporters are broadly as bad as each other, the only difference in this case being that the leader of one group is more open about how awful he is. But rest assured, that if Hilary started whipping people up into a racist frenzy, her supporters would also be willing to oblige.
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 12:48, Reply)
you'd have to do a bit more than jostle a man onto his arse to be 'broadly as bad' as the KKK or the NRA imo
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 13:16, Reply)
www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-14/ku-klux-klan-grand-dragon-will-quigg-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 14:11,
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difficult to reason with a man who's voting for someone because he approves of their hidden agenda
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 14:25, Reply)
There was a lot of assumption made in that one statement.
I just wanted you to see that Hillary has also been endorsed by the KKK. You can ignore corruption by calling the other guy "Hitler", but you saying it does not make it so.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 14:31,
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people are comparing Trump to Hitler because of his racist language and policies
(, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 14:38, Reply)
he has no policies. he's not a politician.
People call him racist because he said we need to stop importing refugees from countries with a known terrorist problem until we can get a handle on how to determine that they're not a threat to the country. That was labelled as "racist" and "Trump's War on Religious Freedom". Two weeks later, the Obama administration announced essentially the same thing, but that was "brave". Then they overturned themselves and just allow anyone, so I presume we'll see more bombings.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 14:46,
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That's not what he said
He said you need to stop allowing people of a certain religion in.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 15:11,
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He said people from certain countries with high terrorist activities
He then said many of those countries would be predominantly Muslim countries. I suppose he didn't follow the rote "Islam is a religion of peace" that politicians seem programmed to say, so that must be part of the upset.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 15:38,
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Nope, you're right
edition.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/
My mistake.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 15:44,
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I find this quote from the article you linked a reasonable suggestion for someone who is in charge of a nation's security.
"Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life."
"It does not apply to people living in the country, except we have to be vigilant."
Please, tell me what I am missing.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 15:49,
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That's not the critical bit and you know it
"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on,"
That, right there, is the problem.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 16:00,
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That is exactly the critical bit, and you allude to it - until the country's representatives can figure it out.
The US has had a number of mass killings due to Islamic terror. It seems reasonable to slow the influx of people from known terrorist countries, especially since ISIS has stated repeatedly that they are putting terrorists in with the flow of refugees.
Please tell me how stopping the import of people until we can assure that they will not kill the people who are offering them a respite is racist?
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 16:10,
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If the current administration were doing their job
we wouldn't be having these conversations. Regardless of right or wrong on any side.
I fail to see how the situation is going to get better as it's just got worse and worse since 2009.
I'm not saying Trump is the answer, but I would say Hillary won't make it much better. She's even losing the election, against Trump.
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because you would be discriminating against people based on their skin colour?
it's the dictionary definition of racism.
Predominantly muslim countries is not-very-good code for 'the brown ones'.
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Islam is a religion [of peace, lol] not an ethnicity, nor a race
And yes, to discriminate against a religion is illegal in the US (that pesky "Constitution" you guys keep railing against forbids it).
However, there is nothing that prohibits the executive from assuring that immigrants coming from any specific country are not threats to the safety and security of the country.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 17:21,
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nothing apart from common sense of course
What's your heritage Coxxy? How would you describe yourself ethnically?
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Question, what colour are muslims?
Because I've met Muslims of all shades and want to know which ones are just pretending.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 18:12,
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What had my being cornish got to do with anything?
I've met Muslims from Pakistan, Iran,Turkey and Somalia.
So I point you back to my previous post.
What colour are Muslims?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 18:52,
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Which teeming metropolis did you meet all these muslims?
Truro? Penzance?
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That there London. Where i've worked for over 2 decades.
Now, enough racial profiling.
What colour are Muslims?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:11,
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I think you're struggling here.
Turkey, Iran, Syria, half the fucking middle east, Albania.
All identify as "white"
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:50,
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What is it this time, or are you just slagging me off?
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 15:36,
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KILLARY DOES IT AGAIN!!!! SHE WAS GETTING FAR RIGHT PEOPLE BACKING HER LONG BEFORE KING TRUMP!!!
You sad fuck.
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False equivalence?
I mean, Hilary isn't whipping people up into a racist frenzy, and there's no reason to think that she would.
Now, just for the sake of the argument, let's imagine that she did start doing that; do you have any evidence or reason to think that her supporters would be willing to oblige? Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect that there'd be something self-fulfilling about any such prediction anyway, inasmuch as that only those willing to oblige would count themselves as her supporters at that point?
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 14:05,
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A lot of people seem to be under the impression that Trump supporters are morally bankrupt
Imagine if Trump called Hillary supporters deplorables and some of them were subsequently attacked. I don't doubt that many in the media would have no problem painting Trump as an instigator of violence.
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he's called for her to be killed should she win
He is an instigator of violence
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Well, it's not as if she hasn't called for the death of a politican before.
Trump may be the nadir of political civility but the reduction to shitflinging has been going on for far longer than he's been campaigning and helped along by many people who call him the monster. The demonisation of Trump is as much a dead canary as his retarded ranting.
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she did a great job there, right.
"we came, we saw, he died."
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Oh no...
I'm not saying Clinton and Trump are equivalent at all, but that they're really the only bit of the left/right equation that AREN'T equivalent.
I definitely think Clinton is the better choice for president for obvious reasons. I just don't think her supporters are any better or worse than trumps supporters. Probably less than 1% of the people voting for either side have actually put any degree of original thought into their decision.
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Clinton supporters are WAY worse
they attack people, tell them what they can say, wear and do. It's mental. They're acting like right fascists.
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There are equivalent cases of people receiving similar abuse at Trump rallies.
I'm not trying to defend these Clinton supporters by the way... I don't think any of these people should have a vote on their own fucking breakfast let alone the head of state of a superpower.
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agreed
Next month should be super interesting. Shit will hit the fan come October surprise.
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yup
Problem arises when one side, with the media, claims to be right.
Apparently there's some racist stuff with Hillary about to be released too! Should be interesting.
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That takes the
filming in portrait problem to a whole new level.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 13:00,
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next time he should film it with a GoProvoke
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 13:49,
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in an ideal world that would happen to everyone who wears a baseball cap
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Or at the very least everyone who streams anything on Periscope.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 13:38,
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"I've got a $100,000 car in the parking lot"
being an antagonistic dick pays well
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HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 13:20,
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