The Pornotron
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I made this!
Ever wondered what Google marks as naughty?
When you do a search at Google images you can search with Safesearch turned on or off.
What the Pornotron does is, it searches for your query with Safesearch on, then again with Safesearch off and it shows you the difference, leaving you with the naughty links.
It's not 100% accurate but it is interesting.
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Sn0tters 🇯🇴🇧🇧🇮🇪, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 10:48,
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I searched for "Rear" and got this mad looking car! :)
bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/1950_Tatra_T_600_Sedan_Rear_1.jpg
With all respects, why not just go to 'google preferences' and click on "Do not filter my search results" ?
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Darklord, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:01,
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Oooohh!
That reminds me - Have you ever seen this homemade version of 'Tron' ?
www.dailymotion.com/video/x4rj9p_tron_creation
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Darklord, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:07,
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Phwoar!
Because this strips out all those pesky non-naughty links that just get in the way.
But mainly because I could to be honest.
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Sn0tters 🇯🇴🇧🇧🇮🇪, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:05,
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Some monday fluffehness.
I made this!
Never knew cats chase their own tails...
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 10:02, Reply)
awww he's well cute!
no wonder he chases his tail its got a massive fluff ball on it jeje
this is my kitteh:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJdzJfYpeVw&feature=channel_page
search ninja cat fail he's there too :D
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 10:36, Reply)
My cats do!
My miserable work has banned me from viewing any video sites so I'm just imagining what it looks like in my head. Its funny :)
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t0ria has forgotten how this all works, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 10:52,
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Vatican Broadside (Treasury version)
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I made this!
An update of the old HMHB classic.
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Fat Boab of dailyreckless.com fame, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 9:51,
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I dont like this...
I LOVE IT!!!
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@RBFesquire Good luck b3ta, was nice knowing you. So long., Mon 19 Jan 2009, 12:53,
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My website site finaly launched,
I made this!
Still very beta, very beta
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 9:37, Reply)
Kick ass monk dealing out the smack down
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This has been watched a few times but it is well worth the 3 mins it rolls for. Slightly sweary music so NSFW
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jakedamusss I understand, and dont care., Mon 19 Jan 2009, 8:28,
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yes! nice touch :)
but my fav part was the rubber duck being thrown with the axes, swords, etc!
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McMookMac Crush Proof, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 9:37,
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I Am Not A Number
I made this!
I know it's sooooooo last week, but I've only got round to finishing my tribute to Patrick McGoohan.
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Fat Boab of dailyreckless.com fame, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 8:14,
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Who Said That.......Bush or Batman????
On the eve of his departure from the Whitehouse, I thought I'd share this sketch comedy with all.
It just goes to show how MANUFACTURED he is/was.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 7:56, Reply)
Hahaha.
I like the old guy going off on one.
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hazzamon I've nothing better to do, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 9:52,
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the presenter isn't half bad actually!
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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 21 Jan 2009, 3:15,
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This is kind of shit
considering the solid-gold concept. It's edited poorly so that only the "gotcha" ones are shown and it becomes wrote and predictable. Boo for missed potential!
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J-Rod chortled as he came, Wed 21 Jan 2009, 22:10,
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Cockmachine will probably save the world
This is a so called Stirling engine. Due to it's special capabilities of transferring heat to mechanical energy (as far as I understand), it enjoy special interest among green researchers. I see a potential for headlines such as 'Mechanical cogs saves world climate!'
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pallimut Ancient Lurker, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 7:08,
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my website
I made this!
its my entire musical carrerr available for downloads
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 5:11, Reply)
I liked this
Especially the tracks with vocals eg"I killed your family"
Some tracks maybe nsfw due mild swearing
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CanonCaliber A big bore, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 10:08,
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Man Had Sex With Horse While High On Ecstasy (SFW)!
Some old news, but if you've never heard the story, it's very funny - But in that toe curling Cringeworthy way! ;-)
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Darklord, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 4:59,
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Bubonic Plague kills 40 Al Qaeda fighters
I made this!
They always talk about how they love death so much. Lucky them!
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 4:37, Reply)
spammity spam spam perhaps?
read the article - didnt tell me anything or do anything more than read like a news article- say from a news website.
and there were no pictures of kittens.
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Nostrebor can't be everything all the time., Mon 19 Jan 2009, 8:06,
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*** didnt tell me anything or do anything more than
read like a news article- say from a news website ***
It is a news website. I'm a freelance journalist..? I don't get your point. Journalism is about adding context and analysis to wire reports - that's exactly what it does.
And I checked b3ta's guidelines and it said posting links with content you've created yourself is perfectly acceptable.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 13:31, Reply)
I
just happen to know a fair bit about the old Bubonic Plague and pretty much all of that article is bollocks.
Bubonic plague is transmitted by rodent fleas, normally rat, so it makes a lousy (if you'll forgive the pun) biological weapon. It's also very easily treatable with a number of antibiotics.
Oh - and it kills in 4-7 days without treatment - not hours.
The danger signs of a Bubonic Plague outbreak are when you start seeing dead rats. You see, it kills them first and then their tiny passengers come seeking new hosts. Ironically, one of the worst things to do in a plague outbreak is start putting down rat poison. What you *should* be doing is putting bait down laced with antibiotics to kill the reservoir of the disease before you start to deal with the rats...
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 9:29,
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corrections
Thanks for the comments but my article is not bollocks:
1. Britain's Ministry of Defence itself claimed the bubonic plague is a potential biological weapon. I didn't claim it.
2. The quote about killing within hours (which again aren't my words, but those of an expert) relates to the onset of death occuring within hours of the symptoms appearing. Not infection occuring.
3. I stated very clearly that it is easily treatable with antibiotics: "with proper medical care it rarely results in fatalities"
Cheers for reading it and commenting, but if you're going to call it "bollocks" you should double check my wording rather than just assuming I said something that in fact I did not.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 13:37, Reply)
ahahaha WHAT
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"Welcome into the world where all your inmost toon sex fantasies will come true at once – the seductive world of uncensored famous toons!"
alrighty then.
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Shiksa, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 4:02,
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Or..
Where you can be locked up for kiddie-porn here in OZ. A bloke was done for having images of The Simpsons engaging in sex.
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 4:15,
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Good god...
These people are just *begging* Disney to sue them, aren't they?
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Kerrisis There's someone in my head, but it's not me., Mon 19 Jan 2009, 7:42,
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Referee squashes a moth during Snooker final
This is as exciting as it gets..
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executiverocker only wears C&A, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:01,
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Fecking Murderer!
And those Snooker fans just lap it up!!
;-)
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Darklord, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:08,
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what a ponce, a moth put him off his game!
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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:50,
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Get Off My Fish!
I made this!
ROLFCATS ZOMG WTF!
It's my cat with his toy.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:57, Reply)
Haahahahaha . . . kind of Looney Tuney !
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Valin I changed glasses while I wasn't looking, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:18,
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Death Cab For Cutie cover
I made this!
This is I Will Follow YOu Into the Dark by Death Cab For Cuite. I know I can't sing great. :/
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Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:47,
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Aw thanks.
But I didn't think so. XD
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Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:59,
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you pander beautifully
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SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 14:02,
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It looks like you read music . . .
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Valin I changed glasses while I wasn't looking, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:15,
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Hahahah, barely.
I did have the chords in front of me, though. XD
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Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:42,
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am i stoned again?
plink-plonk-plinkety-plonkety-blim-blam
OOoooOOOhhhH, woke up this morning, derr nerr ner ner, (moves aside to breathe), started singing my song derr, nerr, ner ner, (moves aside to breathe)
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 9:20, Reply)
I have no sound at work
If your music is anything like your drawings I'm sure I'll LURVE it.
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WormuIus, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 14:00,
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it's exactly as good as her drawings.
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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 21 Jan 2009, 3:00,
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*alerts the pandaron 5000*
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SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 14:02,
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Little old me TAKING ON THE FRICKIN' WORLD. I thank you.
I made this!
Right you b3tards, listen up - this year I'm going to push my go-go gadget OCD gotta-catch-em-all ticklist mentality to the limit and attempt to step foot in EVERY SINGLE nation on Planet Earth. And just to make it as difficult as possible, I can't fly or drive my own car.
So... I started off in Buenos Aires on the first of January 2009 with just 3 pairs of undies and a broken camcorder. Here's the first week of my modern take on Homer's epic, THE ODYSSEY...
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:29, Reply)
You are nuts
On a related note, I can sing all of the nations of the world* to the tune of the mexican hat dance.
*Except any that didn't exist 15 years ago, plus several that no longer exist, and no Wales.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:45, Reply)
Even without the linky to the sing...
...I thought 'I can do that'. It's damned useful in pub quizzes, as is the 50 states and their capitols song here: uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sNUDDaEOvuY
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moogthedog, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:40,
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*Clicks*
That's really cool, thanks for posting.
I wonder how long it'll take?
A long time ago I found a website (that I can't seem to find now), it asked the question, "How many countries have you been to?"
You just ticked off the countries and it came up with some informative results. I was really really impressed with myself, as it said I'd traveled to 51 different countries!
What was less impressing was it also said that I'd only covered 22.6% of the world! So there's still plenty more to see...
Also, I wonder if it'll be hard getting into 'North Korea' ?
EDIT:
Here's that site: douweosinga.com/projects/visited?region=world
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Darklord, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:45,
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visited 19 states (8.44%)
But in terms of area I'm doing well, cos I've been to Russia and Kazakhstan, and they're huge
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:00, Reply)
On a practical note
Are you going to have enough space in your passport? Even with the extra-large version (oh yes, there's an extra large version) surely you'll run out of space for visas? And travelling back to the UK to get a new one would suck.
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You can get an embassy to sort you out with a new one
on the way.
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M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 9:15,
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96 pages of country stamp glory!!
I is got two bumper passports. Don't worry - I'm not quite as disorganised as I seem...
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:38, Reply)
great!
don't forget the obscure pacific nations that were only founded yesterday
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:53, Reply)
I hope you've already started trying for your entry into Tristao de Cunha
It takes over a year to get one, and that's only if they like you.
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gronkpan, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:07,
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loving it
good vid and good luck on your adventure!!!
great on the road editing as well. impressive.
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Nostrebor can't be everything all the time., Mon 19 Jan 2009, 8:20,
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Good luck with the Federated States of Micronesia!
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Brandy_Bumwinkle, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 9:14,
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clicks!
epic journey, good luck dude!
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Mon 19 Jan 2009, 12:52,
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Rock Stars and their Parents.
A series of 10 photo's of famous Singers/Musicians.
This one's my favorite 'Ritchie Havens' with his parents Richard and Mildred at their home in East Flatbush. Brooklyn, NY, 1971
Check out his Mum and Dad and her hand in his face! :-D
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Darklord, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:07,
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Stuff the BBC doesn't seem to show:
Coverage of a doctor's home shelled by a tank!
And here's the full Israeli TV piece: www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUh6xVlndhM
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Darklord, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 1:12,
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Wonder if Vinegar is going to have an opinion on this?
I'm curious to hear him try to excuse or justify it.
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Kerrisis There's someone in my head, but it's not me., Mon 19 Jan 2009, 1:38,
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Ooh, ooh, I'll try!
Israeli news channel interviewing him regularly, in regular contact with someone, that's hardly something that someone who wishes to demonise another person does, is it?
Israeli medical services taking the injured, this isn't just propaganda (though in this case partially is, undeniably), but Israeli hospitals take thousands of sick Gazans each year (as well as Gaza being on the Israeli power grid, all these blackouts you hear about only affect part of the strip, the rest is subsidised by the Israeli tax payer).
Are either of those the behaviour of the big bad evil Zionist?
Israeli troops wouldn't fire at a building for no reason, yes, they weren't being responsible, but they wouldn't waste ammunition on a target that didn't exist. Sure, they were idiots and went for a bit of reckless overkill, but what about the man firing from the top of a residential building in the first place; was he exactly a saint?
The obviously didn't directly target his family, otherwise they'd've probably caused a fair bit more damage, he's just a poor sod who got stuck on the wrong end of an overreaction, which may I add was most likely due to scared shitless 18-21 year old soldiers, to someone who was firing at them from a residential building in the first place.
Though, despite all that, my heart in this case really goes out to that poor guy; it really is a shame that any of this has to happen. And yes, occupation occupation, but even if Israel did (let's hope) withdraw from the West Bank and set up reasonable infrastructure there Hamas wouldn't stop, don't kid yourself, they're not a rational organisation.
(Side point: Not addressed to you, but people ask why the Palestinians should have to suffer for the Holocaust, well, Tel Aviv was built long before the Holocaust, Be'er Sheva long before the Holoaust, there have been Jews there since well, well before the holocaust, the 1929 Hebron Massacre happened, well, before the holocaust ('42), the Balfour declaration happened in 1917. Also, people who think the Arab population are some poor innocent people ignorant of the Holocaust and European history, bullshit, Hezbollah use the Fascist Salute and then there's this man:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni
In short he: Was the Sunni Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during the war.
Declared the concept of a Palestinian Nation
Recruited Muslims into the Waffen SS during the war.
Asked for help creating a genocide of Jews in the Arab World.
Spent the war in Berlin.
Yes, poor innocent bastards, totally ignorant of European near history.)
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:01, Reply)
overkill
the first thing to strike me is there's one guy on a roof with a gun shooting. There are probably other people in the building other than him, what the heck, lets just bomb the whole bloody thing 'chances are everyone else inside is a militant'. discuss...
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:24, Reply)
I'm an officer
leading a group of soldiers. Someone is firing at my lads, their lives are at risk, oh, he's on top of the building, what's a sure fire way of killing this guy?
Discuss...
Also, they didn't bomb the whole bloody thing, as you can clearly see in the video, there's a family and camera crew all walking round it perfectly fine. Someone died in a tank shell explosion, armoured support, probably the only way they had of getting that sniper anyway (what's the alternative, Negev machine gun? Yeah, 'cos that's not gonna spray bullets everywhere); it's a shame they got hurt in the explosion, but it was hardly razing a building.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:28, Reply)
The thing that pisses people off is...
The inequality of it.
It's similar to:
I punch you in the face, one of your mates shoots me.
Then one of my mates shoots your mates, one of your mates fire ballistics.
Yeah there are a few twats firing rockets at Israel. But, the civilian casualty rate in reply is just not right.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:34, Reply)
keep
taking belligerent punches to the face
edit: from someone who's mandate is to kill you
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:39, Reply)
someone keeps punching you in the face
with THE INTENTION TO KILL YOU.
CONSTANTLY.
and all you're gonna do it punch back?
a nice metaphor to hold Israel to, but i doubt you'd do it.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 14:05, Reply)
It's not a civilian casualty rate in reply
Most of the dead have been Hamas terrorists. These people place themselves next to high density areas. They even proudly admit to their use of human shields (as was the case a few years ago when Israel regularly rings up well in advance (about 24 hours I believe) to tell they're going to destroy a home of a terrorist); in one case Hamas got a group of civilians to stand on the roof of the building so Israeli jets wouldn't blow it up. Of course, their status as civilians is questionable, but they were hardly combattants at the time. Also, they got a horde of women in Burkas, another time, to wait outside a building then dressed the wanted man in a burka and smuggled him out; now you may think that's a fair ploy, but a ruse de guerre does not feature civilians.
I doubt how many of these civilian deaths are really civilian and not just Hamas fighters, with no uniforms, stripped of their weapons and paraded in front of the cameras as civilians.
Also 'Israel has killed x women and children' Women can fight too, you know, and children can be given weapons. Anyone under 18 is a child, well, it's hardly beyond belief to have a 16 or 17 year old fighter is it? But when these fighters get killed suddenly they become the poor innocent oppressed women and children.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:42, Reply)
Or maybe I tell it to my friend
who nearly got blown up by a missile in Be'er Sheva.
I don't want civilian deaths, but when someone's trying to kill my comrades I sure as hell know what I want to do to Hamas, and if one Gazan lady dies, then it's a shame, but I'd rather she died than one of my friends.
I know it's trendy in this country to support the perceived underdog, but the champagne socialists here are playing with other people's lives based off propaganda and limited knowledge. What do you know of what's happened in the Democratic Republic of Congo in the past 40 years off the top of your head? What's to say your knowledge of the Middle East is any better? I know people there, I have ties there, I have direct links and up to date knowledge of the area, and I have to say, it's a whole lot different than the image painted in this country.
I feel sorry for the dad, but when in war soldiers fire to defend themselves; it's as simple as that. It's a shame, but then again, war is a shame.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:48, Reply)
but on the other hand
Yes I will assume you know your stuff, you clearly do. Better than myself but that doesn't make you more right. I'm of the camp that doesn't agree to forced seizure of land in '67. I mean, can you not understand why Palestine is pissed off at Israel? I don't condone violence in any form, and therefore the actions of either belligerent. But I don't think the IDF should be there. Also it worries me that you place different value on peoples lives.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:58, Reply)
The land before '67
wasn't Palestinian controlled; and was under far worse occupation from Egypt and Jordan.
Hamas is a wing of the Muslim Brotherhood, an opposition to Egypt's ruling elite and the Palestinians tried to overthrow the Hashemite kings, leading to Black September (after which there have been no problems in Jordan, funnily enough... welcome to the Middle East, got a problem? Flatten a town!)
It wasn't land seized from Palestinians, but from Jordan and Egypt.
I place different values on people's lives just as if someone pointed a weapon at your mother and a weapon and someone entirely different and asked you to make a decision (with no flipping of a coin) what would you do? It's not that they're Jews or Israelis that I place more value on their lives, but because they're my friends, my comrades, my tribe if you will. I wish I didn't have to, but at a time of war, I do.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:04, Reply)
But
It doesn't look like its much better for the Palestinians living there now than it was under Jordan or Egypt, how is this helping? Hamas firing rockets into Israel isn't, that's for sure, but kicking seven shades of shit out of everyone living there isn't either it seems. Would be nice if all parties could sort this out diplomatically (hah!). I just don't believe the population in that tiny area should be forced to live in a cage under the supervision of a country who seems angry that it exists in the first place.(a rash statement i know and general, and probably innacurate)
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:17, Reply)
How many Hamas Freedom Fighters do you think there is exactly?
And how can you know these things?
Are you there? Do you make the 'phone calls'?
Are you a human shield?
I Think that there is an awful lot of civilian casualties, no matter who may, or may not be, telling porkies. Based on the fact that those flats I watched being blown up Here Could not have been soley populated by Hamas.
On another note, leaflets(stating their intentions)were not dropped by the Israeli army until the ground offensive started, according to most press reports. So civvis could not have known about what was going to happen in the first instance.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:53, Reply)
One friend of mine made the phonecalls
another currently listens to Hamas phone conversations.
I'm not a human shield, I'm a target.
Also I'll Gaz you the article some other time, BBC may have to do, but it's of the organised human shield tactic.
Israel didn't drop leaflets because they had set up an entire propaganda campaign of misinformation. The head of defence even went on a satirical TV show mocking the concept of a war; the next day all Hamas were exactly where the Israelis expected to be and the first day had massive Hamas losses to relatively few civilian casualties; the 60 miltia/police deaths, for example.
It would be interesting to see over what period the civilian deaths occured.
Vidoes not loading, could you find a mirror? And why wouldn't these blocks be entirely Hamas? And if they're not, what are Hamas doing in the same blocks as civilians? We know full well they can afford to take however much Gazan land they choose.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:59, Reply)
Well that would bring me back to my first point...
How many Hamas freedom fighters were there at the start of this? And why wouldn't they live like normal people in normal Gazan flats?
Also, how rich do you think they are? If there is so many of them how far would the wealth go?
The video stream seems to be faulty. I'll see if I can find it elsewhere... it's a live webcam set up somewhere.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:13, Reply)
well yes
I understand that from the IDF perspective, and probably any modern army perspective that was the obvious course of action. The fact this was the only course of action - and the relatively high risk of civilian casualties that seem to be the trend in this conflict, is pretty sad really. Bugger all we can do, seems like they've got bored for now.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:43, Reply)
Agreed
I just wish people would stop believing Hamas gives a shit about civilian populations.
These are people that conducted suicide bombings on children's birthday parties. They don't give a fuck about anything other than their own power, wealth and glory. They're basically like the 'gangsts' you get shooting the shit out of each other in South London; only they have Iranian made rockets instead of Glocks.
The cease fire can only hold if the World turns its back on Hamas.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:50, Reply)
OOOHH Don't get me wrong.....
I'm not saying hamas give a shit about anyone. They are after all, followers of the 'Religion of Perpetual Anger'.
But the fact that Israel seem very swift to sink to that level doing pretty much that same thing, with more advanced weapons.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:59, Reply)
Pretty much the same thing... not quite
Israel is aiming at Hamas, Hamas is aiming at civilians. The thing is the end result is still high Palestinian deaths, so it's not the solution I'd like either, but we've already seen Hamas isn't going to stop any time soon, so how do you handle it? There are a number of ways, but Hamas is not the fluffy organisation it's made out to be in this country. Not even remotely fluffy at all.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:07, Reply)
Where are you getting that from......
Who in their right mind would think that either side is fluffy? Both don't value normal life...
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:18, Reply)
it truly is shit when innocents die
but in a cynical way, the more innocents that die, the more support hamas gets in the rest of the world.
their actions really don't show that they try to protect their civillians... at all.
in fact quite the opposite, it seems like it's baiting Israel... and using their own population as a shield.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:38, Reply)
I totally agree...
I feel terrible for the innocent civilians that are being destroyed by the actions of both hamas AND israel- both of whom have no qualms spilling the civilians blood for their own political advantage.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 7:42, Reply)
The watchword here is "Disproportionate response"
I can't and won't deny that Hamas are, at best, fucking morons (and at worst, violent zealots). I can't and won't deny that them constantly launching rockets into Israel is a crime that warrants a response, possibly even a military one. But what we've seen over the past month or so is the IDF crossing the line. Their campaign has killed hundreds, possibly thousands, of innocent Palastinian civilians. Artillery strikes against known residential areas. Bombing runs against hospitals. White Phosphoros shells fired at a UN humanitarian base. And why? Because some 14 year old with a head full of extremist tripe took a couple of 7.62mm pot-shots at a tank or something. The IDF have been hitting any sort of resistance at all with the biggest damn hammer they have to hand. And now, live on national TV, the people of Israel have been shown the results of indiscriminate attacks such as this. The attacks their government has ordered.
I have absolutely nothing against the Israeli people. The vast majority of them are just people trying to go about their lives, just like the vast majority of Palestinians. I am coming to a serious dislike for their government though, and the war crimes they seem to be committing. Because that is precisely what a "disporportionate response" is. Google it if you don't believe me, I'm sure others will explain it better than I ever could.
If things carry on like this, one of two things are going to happe. Either the IDF are going to effectively eradicate the Palestinian people (making them guilty of genocide) or some whacko zealot is going to turn Jerusalem into a half-mile wide crater of glowing glass. I find it terrifying that neither side seems to be able to see this.
On a side note in response to yours, yes al-Husayni was a fundamantalist nutcase. But some of the Jews from that time weren't much better...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
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Kerrisis There's someone in my head, but it's not me., Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:53,
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I don't dispute the Irgun or the Stern gang
I just wish people would stop referring to Palestinians as suffering for European Guilt. The Arab elite at that time were well and truly part of European affairs. The image of them as innocents is an entirely new propaganda invention.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:00, Reply)
You know what else is an entirely new propaganda invention?
Megaphone.
giyus.org/
It's pretty rich you trying to call propaganda when this kind of crap is going around.
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gronkpan, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:16,
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But at least they're not making stuff up
this is just a way of getting people to act on a single issue on the internets.
They're not reinventing history with accounts of a Palestinian state being stolen away in '67 or total ignorance of near history.
There's a different between mass action and bullshit.
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I'm sure you can work that one out in your mind
but I'm out here with everyone else.
Could you please go into some more detail about how israeli media manages to be 100% truthful?
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gronkpan, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:53,
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What about the Palestinian civilians who were told by Israeli forces to leave their homes
and were then gathered up and shot?
Your Government has been accused of war crimes by the UN. They will be held accountable. Let's face it, you've shoved over a million people into a ghetto, have removed their right to move freely, prevented food, aid and medical supplies from entering, shot at civilians for the most minor of transgressions, and now you think you have the upper hand you are slaughtering them, all the while blaming THEM for the fact they are being killed.
Remind you of anything?
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Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Mon 19 Jan 2009, 4:48,
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It was on CNN however
edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2009/01/17/robertson.israel.shocking.news.cnn
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lord turkey boy and the cleft of venus, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 1:42,
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Tough One
.
I really feel for the guy. I wish there was a way to sort this out without all the killing but I'll be buggered if I know how.
The sticking point seems to be HAMAS's charter calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Bit of a bugger that when you're trying to sort out a ceasefire.
And if HAMAS stopped lobbing rockets at Israel then maybe, just maybe, Israel would open up the borders again - but that would depend on HAMAS not sending suicide bombers like they normally do.
But, to do a Jeremy Kyle, maybe we really should think about the children in all this.
To put a different perspective on all this. What do you think *we* would do if France started lobbing rockets across the channel day after day?
*Sigh* Kids today - they blow up so fast....
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:05,
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Better Youtube Firefox Extension
GoldCock (probably). Firefox extension which allows you to download video directly from Youtube. Da da da da da, I'm lovin it.
And here is a bonus link, which teaches you how to search for only the High Quality Vids on youtube: (also ace)
www.labnol.org/internet/video/search-high-resolution-youtube-videos/5228/
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kfk I get all my everything right here, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 0:30,
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&FMT=18
You can always add &FMT=18 to the end of a YouTube url for the high quality version. Not all have it.
If you have an app that searches all HD YouTube posts that would be mega handy!
EDIT
&FMT=22 is for HD videos.
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redazril I LIKE DRUGS!, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 0:46,
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