
Well done
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyfI8L2tKyY
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 18:48, Reply)

got to 9 seconds in and had to mute it, which I guess defeated the object so I stopped it.
I'm sure it was otherwise marvelous though.
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( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 19:29, Reply)

at 10 seconds made me stop it. sorry.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 19:26, Reply)

(Here's one of his greatest hits, btw: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZyFXbb8izM )
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 18:37, Reply)

the pyro's came down in the audience.
just reminded me of these guys www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB2C8gmwuZc
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 19:41, Reply)

Unfortunately, it's not that close to what music sounds like.
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So i dont see how youre going to ever get absolute consensus on what it is or should be. However anyone who thinks Stockhausen isn't music is working to a pretty weird definition - by being one of the most influential composers of the last century, he played a fairly major part in writing the definition. It's just music they don't like / can't be bothered to work for. Where are the tunes? Etc. Which is fine, I don't really see why them not liking it has to be a problem for them or me. I can't be bothered with films that have any depth, but I see no reason to insist they aren't films because they don't have a story.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 22:31, Reply)

I have concluded that there are three kinds of music:
1. Music you listen to (e.g. songs, symphonies, dance pieces)
2. Music you hear in the background (e.g. Muzak, film soundtracks)
3. Music you read about with great interest because of it's originality and innovation, but don't listen to because it lacks aesthetic considerations (e.g. John Cage, Stockhausen, Schoenberg)
A lot of neo-classical music is far more interesting (and bearable) on paper than it is on record.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 22:38, Reply)

After 3 years of a music degree AND several years of postgraduate work and letters after my name I mostly disagree. ;) (and find neo-classical stuff insipid and lazy :D)
But let's put it down to just that. My aesthetic considerations are clearly just a bit different from yours. I hear beauty in an Elliott Carter string quartet. It just takes a bit longer to get to it!
Having said that I don't believe post tonal music is in any way more worthy or 'better' than anything else. I find writing in that hyper modernist style really unrewarding. I just think that tonality and even-tempered consonance have convinced Western ears that they are the only way over the years and I don't really buy it.
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That last point is a particularly good one, as changing your approach to what "sounds like music" to you is a bit like trying to unlearn basic maths. It's so ingrained.
Had a quick look at Elliott Carter, and I can see what you're getting at. When I first heard Rammstein it was just noise to me and everything sounded the same, now I'm a total fanboy. You have to devote some patience to these kind of things to appreciate what's being done differently each time.
It's nice to find music that surprises you, one of my favourite finds of recent years was these guys, recommended to me by a peculiar Finnish man. No idea if this is your kind of thing, but they caught me off guard.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 23:24, Reply)

I have no idea what I just listened to but it caused me great joy.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 23:29, Reply)

"...what one hears with the intention of hearing music."
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 22:54, Reply)

really brings into question what should and should not be considered music.
Music, traditionally (and rightly), has melody, harmony, pitch, rhythm, timbre and things of that ilk. Stockhausen's piece has none of these.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 21:51, Reply)

Music has very much evolved, but a lot of things were tried along the way which were completely unlistenable. Much of Stockhausen's work is very important in terms of technology and technique, but the audible results were pretty horrible.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 22:32, Reply)

I'm not claiming by any means the Stockhausen is the greatest composer ever and I listen to him on the way to work every day, but so much wooly nonsense about what music should be gets bandied about. Yes you have to work harder to get something out of music that's outside your usual listening idiom. If you don't want to don't, but nothing is unlistenable.
Sorry I'm not having a go, I know this is all beard stroking nonsense really and probably agree with you for the most part. It just annoys me how safe, pedestrian and tame 99.999% of music is. Such that metal, punk and dubstep are considered extreme. Terrifying really.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 22:44, Reply)

Try harder.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 22:35, Reply)

Although, for example, the time signatures are constantly shifting and bear little resemblance to much else you'll hear from before KHS' time.
One of his Klavierstücke, for example, will touch 142/8 fleetingly, before eventually wheeling round to do it again.
I find Kontakte hugely enjoyable nowadays, although I couldn't sit through the whole thing back in my 20s without hallucinogens.
Pre-electronic microtonal composers are worth a listen. There's an old BBC documentary about Harry Partch on youtube, and he has the most remarkable tale to tell. (Part 1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cKnTj2cyNQ)
Enjoyable debate, btw, based on such a small stimulus!
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 23:44, Reply)

It fucks up your jump even when it's stationary at the top
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 19:48, Reply)

is getting on my tits.
PS: Have no tits.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 18:03, Reply)

She says they're "sub Mills and Boon shite" but "better than Twilight".
They started off as erotic Twilight fanfiction, apparently. Which is a great pedigree for any literature.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 18:07, Reply)

It is the same in the video as what it is on the title of the video.
Child and the cobra at .30 is slightly worrying, but good old goats knocking kids over makes up for that.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:53, Reply)

and neither will any other parent. Good day sir.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 19:31, Reply)

Can't stand to see kids being hurt in the name of comedy. Kittens, yes.
( , Fri 10 Aug 2012, 3:18, Reply)

I doubt any of them even caused a mark/bruise/cut/break......
( , Fri 10 Aug 2012, 9:41, Reply)

I also want a cobra now. It looked like it wanted a cuddle.
Also at 0:37 there seems to be a child trying to escape an emu on a tiny pony...why isn't there more footage of this?!
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 22:27, Reply)

Surprisingly lovely film about the bloke who has his hand up Elmo's arse.

Watch online, innit.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:30, Reply)

Should work now. If it asks, you can click on the free user option and watch it by clicking on the "click to play" button. Natchballs.
There might be some pop ups. Sorry about that.
(site is safe enough, though. It's basically a rapidshare type affair which allows direct streaming)
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:57, Reply)

but it never seemed to come round at the piccies. TA!
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 19:02, Reply)

Closed my eyes and was carried away by the singer's voice.
Edit: Looked it up, that's Sarkozy's wife, Carla singing. Hmmm. I wonder if she has any photos out there...
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:28, Reply)

when sung in a breathy voice and in French.
Liking the vid, though.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:50, Reply)

with garlic and armangac?
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 18:04, Reply)

called Quelq'un m'a dit which I have. Nice stuff, and a cracking piccy on the CD cover.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 18:25, Reply)

Try stirring your brew or brushing your teeth with your 'wrong' hand.
Well, I do it like a spaz anyway....
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:30, Reply)

1. There should be a rule against falling
2. The pursuit cars should not run over racers
3. Friends don't bring dogs to bike races
4. Hahahahahahahahaha
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:18, Reply)

i agree with this assessment.
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( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:30, Reply)

moderately awkward
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( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 16:53, Reply)

Not going to plug it here, but from the looks of their office and the site, there's not a whole lot of company to fuck up...
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:58, Reply)

so not sure who to feel sorry for here... man behind camera being dick but the boss fella also being a dick. Guy in pink shirt also has dick like tendencies. Dicks. They're all wrong.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 16:58, Reply)

that the fat boss guy killed his first born by zipping her up in a rucksack then slightly opening it to fart into (bare bum after a chilli eating contest) so she would slowly suffocate.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:14, Reply)

For all we know, he took the expense money and showed up late and drunk.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:14, Reply)

The stripy shirt guy is possibly the most hateful human being I've ever seen....I don't know who is ultimately in the right, because I don't know the back story, but my god, Mr pink shirty cunty cunty needs a slap. Just look at that FACE!
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:57, Reply)

before deciding I didn't want to spend any more time listening to him.
I think the "what are you doing you weirdo" expression on that first poor woman's face tells me everything I need to know.
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( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 16:07, Reply)

when he gets convicted, he'll be going down for a long time.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 16:18, Reply)

buy the right car and it's easy not to pay road tax. My dad got one of these super efficient, regenerative braking diesel jobbies, never herd anyone complaining about his £0 road tax bill while driving up to 1000mi/week for his work
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 14:29, Reply)

he's also the one who's not a fat fuck.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 14:51, Reply)

Can we have it fixed so we can edit subject lines in /links pretty please?
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 14:58, Reply)

Chinese inventor road tests his disaster pods
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 13:37, Reply)

Also by coincidence "disaster pods" is what I call my testicles.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 13:58, Reply)

and just call them The Weasleys
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 16:15, Reply)

so as not to post too often on here/be accused of being cliquey.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 15:57, Reply)

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( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 14:28, Reply)

Either way, quite amusing Plod-baiting.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 13:17, Reply)

Kids these days get way too much pocket money.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 14:17, Reply)

Is he a bloody ASDA?
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 17:37, Reply)

His groin was ripped open in a rugby game and he lost 4 teeth. Physio fixed him up and he finished the game. Take that you football pansies.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 13:11, Reply)

Erm, yeah, good choice of comparison sports there, because football is a game which involves running with the ball and kicking seven shades of shit out of your opponents.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 13:24, Reply)

We grabbed two people off the street and made them stroke a willy etc for a game show led by Mr Susan (B3tan iamthemonkey).
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 13:02, Reply)

Wish that Leigh Francis was still doing stuff like this!
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 13:06, Reply)

Ha - thanks dude! Much obliged. I actually interviewed L.F once. It was a bit weird.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl6KhW0tgSU
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 13:08, Reply)

Loved the celebrities on Bo Selecta though. What on earth is he doing with Keith Lemon on ITV these days, such a waste!
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 13:19, Reply)

that he's a cock.
Shame.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 13:25, Reply)

Thanks Stallion. It's taken us about 6 months to actually finish the edit. I now have nightmares featuring purple frilly shirts.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 14:09, Reply)

and rather fab intro music too. I wonder who did that? Oh yeah, it was me!
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 13:34, Reply)

Not a lot goes on in my day.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 12:56, Reply)

and I don't even mean you.
( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 12:59, Reply)

Genuinely midly annoyed.
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( , Thu 9 Aug 2012, 16:25, Reply)

there was some way to edit the page and contribute notable missing badgers
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