In the wake of these recent riots some people are saying that 'society has failed' etc etc.
Is this massive overreacting? The lower orders have kicked off periodically throughout history and drunkenness/street crime in London is I am sure considerably less prevalent than it was in, say, Victorian times. A glance at Hogarth's 'Gin Alley' suggests this to be so.

The standard of living for the urban 'poor' is probably higher than it's ever been. Should everyone simply shut up and stop making more of it than it necessary (yes, YOU 'the media'), or is it indicative of THE END OF DAYS???

Apologies for lack of computer games

Cheers.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:27, 197 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

SHOOT THE BADDIES

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:28, Reply)

I think we should hang the threadstomping bastards.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:28, Reply)

I'm sorry if you feel your adventures on Facecunt are more important
than THE TOTAL BREAKDOWN OF ORDER IN OUR SOCIETY.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:30, Reply)

If you were on facebook and friends with me, you'd have seen this link
www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/08/civil-disorder-and-looting-hits-britain-0?fsrc=rss
Which is very good.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:30, Reply)

Nice pic of Young Monty and his chums there.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:30, Reply)

I very much enjoyed reading that a couple of weeks back, gave me a good laugh.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:30, Reply)

It really is, thanks.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:32, Reply)

that is very good
cheers
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:42, Reply)

Cull the poor.
The fucking cunts.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:30, Reply)

IT'S ALIIIIIVE.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:32, Reply)

Only just.
Cash all OK?
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:57, Reply)

The looting was nothing to do with people being poor
and everything to do with people wanting to get things for free and smash things up. Like any normal red blooded male I love smashing things up, I recently got to smash up my wife's old wardrobe and it was great fun. This was just the same on a larger scale. I'm willing to bet there were plenty of people out there who came from family's better off than mine.
( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:34, Reply)

I have my suspicions that this was quite a large element of it

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:38, Reply)

I got to smash my wife's back doors in, once.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:58, Reply)

strange
she lets me once a week
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:59, Reply)

My sloppy seconds for you my lad.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:01, Reply)

While some people have more
people with less are going to kick off about it
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:42, Reply)

Going all communist?

(PsychoChomp, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:43, Reply)

Nah I wouldn't make a very good one
considering that I thought the rioters and looters were fucking scum
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:47, Reply)

My best pal's album has just had a good review:
www.aaamusic.co.uk/2011/08/29/deep-cut-%E2%80%93-disorientation/

Apparently it's 'a captivating dreamscape of delights' - just short of 'painting pictures with sound' and 'achingly beautiful'.

It's not bad if you like guitar pop music, but not really my scene.

New vid: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxYPN92Cui0

Last vid: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPmcRhM317M&feature=related


PR message ends.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:44, Reply)

how can a guitar pop album be anywhere close to 'a captivating dreamscape of delights'?
best review I've seen was in a local magazine that slated one of our CDs.

The reviewer said that listening to this band was like 'being stabbed all over with thousands of tiny sticks'
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:46, Reply)

That is a quality put-down.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:47, Reply)

I thought so.
just listened to those links. briefly. I can't bear that sort of music.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:49, Reply)

It's not for me, either.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:50, Reply)

I don't understand how the musicians don't get bored playing it.

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:51, Reply)

I think if you grew up on My Bloody Valentine and The Primitives
it's the sound you want to hear. I didn't, though.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:54, Reply)

I quite liked the Primitives.
MBV not so much.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:54, Reply)

My pal's band linked to above supported the Primitives last year.
I went and left 30 seconds into the Primitives. Shite.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:56, Reply)

some people are shallow and easily pleased.
some most
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:54, Reply)

^ I'm with Beardy on this one
A "dreamscape of delights," I fear it is not. I remain entirely unmoved by either of those tracks.

I can, however, imagine them being piped through the speakers in a small clothes shop that's trying to look a bit "indie."
(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:11, Reply)

I'm going to take this opportunity to plug these people again
www.wolfpeople.co.uk/music.html

Wolf People are the fucking business. Best band I've heard in ages.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:19, Reply)

My sister was once a singer for a band called Red 27
The Local paper slated them and said specifically of my sister "The singer only knows one note and unfortunately that note is somewhere between C and C#"

Quality review I thought, my mum cut it out and put it in a scrapbook.
( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:57, Reply)

hahaha
outstanding
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:58, Reply)

That is spectacular.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:01, Reply)

your mates a woofter

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:53, Reply)

That's his wife singing.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:54, Reply)

dude
Lab linked this on my facebook
www.youtube.com/watch?v=K84ymNFuu6U

pretty girl playing drums very well along with a Tool song
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:54, Reply)

already posted it a few days ago, she is lovely.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:03, Reply)

Fiver says the widow of Shark Man kills herself by the end of september.
any takers?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:44, Reply)

Who?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:45, Reply)

Poor woman who's husband got eaten by a shark while on their honeymoon.
They'd been married a week.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:46, Reply)

she is indeed a poor woman

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:47, Reply)

He was probably gay anyway.
I suspect everyone of being gay. That way the buggers will never catch me unawares.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:49, Reply)

+er

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:56, Reply)

You do need time to prep up

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:57, Reply)

Monty likes to be perpetually lubed

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:58, Reply)

A bit harsh!

( girlinthehole, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:46, Reply)

have you seen her goodbye words, "SEE YOU SOON"
BLAMMO!
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:52, Reply)

Yes but life is a mere blink of an eye when considered against the afterlife.

( girlinthehole, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:58, Reply)

I imagine she'll be rolling in it from the holiday insurance payout, mortgage protection policy, and work whipround

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:57, Reply)

Obviously all of his assets will pass to her as well

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:58, Reply)

Unless he's made a will I suppose

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:58, Reply)

If he's anything like me
he won't have got round to it yet.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:03, Reply)

Even I've got round to making a will Al.
It's important innit.
( girlinthehole, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:10, Reply)

Yeah
Especially when you've got a wife and property and stuff.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:14, Reply)

what happens if you don't have one?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:17, Reply)

It goes to next of kin/spouse
but takes ages longer, I think.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:19, Reply)

Yes, it does.
My Mum died without making a will and it took fucking ages to sort things out.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:35, Reply)

intestacy rules
spouse, kids, parents, siblings, grandparents, aunts/uncles, cousins, crown.

there's a bit more to it than that, but this is the general priority list. and yeah, it can take ages.

if you're married and you are joint tenant with your spouse in ownership of your house, it's only relevant if you wanted to leave stuff to other people. if you wanted to leave some to charidee, or to your parents, or a brother etc, you'd need a will or to ensure that your other half knew exactly what your wishes were.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:38, Reply)

Immigrants get your stuff
and they can smash your wifes back doors in. And they get to draw little red spots over your wedding photos so it looks like you had chickenpox when you got married.

Awful stuff.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:19, Reply)

Apart from his wedding ring
Loan Sharks innit?
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:59, Reply)

Alright Jeff

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:01, Reply)

Haha!
I thought it was quite good
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:01, Reply)

I agree

(PsychoChomp, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:05, Reply)

I blame boredom and a lack of moral fibre.
I suggest Trivial pursuits for everyone and a good diet.
( girlinthehole, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:45, Reply)

mushrooms and bran flakes?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:47, Reply)

I would assume one is uninclined to riot when watching Micky Mouse peeping from behind the sofa.

( girlinthehole, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:49, Reply)

I was making a joke about morals/morels
but your point is a good one. I suggest riot control by means of LSD
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:50, Reply)

You are not the first person to have this idea.
The US government considered it in the 50s.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:53, Reply)

The Scarecrow also tried something similar in Batman Begins
as you would know, being very much 'into film'
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:53, Reply)

He was shit in that
*scare one person*
*ride on horse*
*run off screaming*
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:02, Reply)

badass in the comics though and v cool in Arkham Asylum game

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:06, Reply)

I just clicked on 'I like this'.
To clarify, I don't like this one little bit. Stop crapping on about fucking computer games. Stop. It. You are an adult.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:16, Reply)

Most people who play computer games are over 18 you know.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:25, Reply)

Then the world is a crazy place.

( girlinthehole, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:28, Reply)

I don't really understand why people are so confused about computer games.
Some people like them, some people like films, listening to vinyl, reading books, going to the gym, playing sports etc.
It's a hobby it doesn't mean anything except that, it's not a sign of immaturity or social akwardness.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:30, Reply)

WOW

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:32, Reply)

img329.imageshack.us/img329/2770/22949613418c22195077orw1.gif
(PsychoChomp, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:33, Reply)

haha

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:34, Reply)

excellent

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:44, Reply)

Hahahahahahahah

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:50, Reply)

how is your girlfriend, btw?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:36, Reply)

Yes but reading books and listening to vinyl won't overtake your life like computer games will.

( girlinthehole, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:40, Reply)

Rubbish.
There are tens of millions of people who play games regularly with no impact on their lives at all. Where on earth do you get these ideas from?
Is it the once in a blue moon "I was addicted to a game" articles that pop up in the media. When there are 60+ million games sold every year that means fuck all.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:44, Reply)

Why do you always pick on my sweeping statements as opposed to others?
Of course I don't mean everyone will automatically become addicted to computer games. I do however think that they are marginally more addictive than other hobbies.

I think the only other hobby which can become addictive is exercise.
( girlinthehole, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:48, Reply)

playing computer games does NOT get you laid
this is why he is grumpy. it's not personal to you. it's just the build-up of intense sweaty hairy-palmed sexual frustration, which will culminate later in a sad lonely little wank over some pixels bunched together in the form of an ACTUAL WOMAN.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:51, Reply)

reading a book, watching a film, listening to music doesn't get you laid either
practically all my mates still play games a lot and nigh on all of them are in happy stable relationships with attractive and intelligent women.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:54, Reply)

shush i am having an exceptionally childish dig, not making a valid point
now agree with me about the sweaty little wank and move on.

although if i were to make a serious point, i would have to say that music/books etc are perhaps more likely to lead to getting laid, as you might go to a gig or a book club etc (oh god, that ghastly match.com advert.... i like old films....) whereas computer gaming clubs etc - come on, you KNOW it'd just be fat sweaty nerdy men.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:57, Reply)

no, because I disagree too much about the whole argument against computer games

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:58, Reply)

it's not a line that would work on me
if i met a guy in a bar. "and what do you like to do?"

"i'm a 137th level paladin with secret red mage powers and my own dragon".

TAXI (for one)!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:00, Reply)

I strongly doubt anyone would ever actually say that and expect it to work
if you are getting that kind of line it's because they are trying to fob you off dear. Sorry to break it to you.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:02, Reply)

for the record i have NEVER had that kind of line!
but if anyone ever used it on a real life girl.... they would be going home alone, i reckon...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:05, Reply)

Sorry Beeg, but Imma gonna have to disagree with you there
I think it's people that are likely to get addicted to stuff that get addicted to hobbies, not that any hobby is more likely to be addictive.

Personally, I get really OCD about organising my music collection and I also get really hooked on games, but I also get really into a book and will do that in preference to anything else until I've finished it.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:51, Reply)

they are more addictive because they take longer and are more involving I think.

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:53, Reply)

Because you make more sweeping statements than most.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:03, Reply)

Workhouses
No more council houses and benefits, if you are unable to support yourself you can move into large scale accomodation where your food will be provided and you will be given work to complete until you are fit and ready to take work and support yourself.

Also send the children down the mines
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:55, Reply)

LIke a ghetto?
Bloody good idea.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:00, Reply)

This is shaping up to be a seriously dull thread.
Mine was much better.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 14:57, Reply)

anyone who is second or third generation unemployed, ugly, and has an iq of less than 130 should be culled
or sterilised.

NEXT.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:00, Reply)

What if you're just ugly?

( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:06, Reply)

if you are employed and have a decent iq
you will be ok even if you are fugly.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:07, Reply)

Phew! I was worried for a second
Mind you I know some people who are think as pigshit who still hold down a job and work hard for a living, the world needs bin-men, vegetable pickers and Telephone tech support personnel too .
( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:08, Reply)

Swipe wasn't going to put herself in the culling pile was she.

(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:09, Reply)

Shouldn't you be off noshing shit loads of chocolate now the BBC says its ok?

( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:11, Reply)

Shouldn't you be off creating more children that you can't afford?

(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:14, Reply)

Shouldn't you be off polishing your bald head and sweating loads?

( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:53, Reply)

so long as he isn't off creating fucking children
can you imagine what he'd teach them?

the way to make friends at nursery school is to find the child with the dead daddy and take the piss, to find the child whose family have no money and to take the piss, to find the child with depression and take the piss...

shudder. let's hope his sperm are swimming in circles. or dead.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:02, Reply)

I'm glad you're not bitter at all.

(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:10, Reply)

i'm not remotely bitter. i'm very happy with my lot in life overall.
i'm just saying that if you act in real life the same way you act on here, you would make a truly appalling role model for any child. therefore you should not be allowed within the same square mile as one.

and if you don't act in real life the same way you act on here... then why do you assume that other people do, and therefore that you are entitled to make intensely personal comments about them and their lives based on what they say on here? it's hypocritical in the extreme!

/breathes
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:15, Reply)

well, no
none of my family have ever been unemployed on both sides, i have an iq of over 150, and of course i am UNBELIEVABLY BEAUTIFUL.

so i am quite quite safe.

although i would also happily be culled, looking at my workload this week and next.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:35, Reply)

there is little worse than quoting your IQ

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:40, Reply)

i have no idea what my iq is, truth be told
i did an online test which came out at about 176, clearly wrong. then my friend who is a psychologist did a massive long test on me. came out at 86.

the truth has to be somewhere between the two, eh?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:42, Reply)

The trouble with these online tests is nearly everyone comes out at 120+
Despite the average being 90. It make people feel bad about having a 90 IQ and people feel its low. A lot of people with very high IQ's are freaky and have no common sense or social skills whatsoever. Also your IQ should never change and has nothing to do with your knowledge and your ability to remember things. You can get by perfectly well with knowledge and experience with a low IQ.
( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:57, Reply)

Your IQ changes with age
sinking as you get older
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:59, Reply)

The average should be 100 surely
since that's what it is standardised around?
(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:05, Reply)

the average is 100
either that or something is broken. IQ = mental age divided by physical age multiplied by 100. It's also bollocks.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:09, Reply)

You're all quite right Average is 100
What I should have said is 90 is normal and an IQ of 90 doesn't necessarily make you a massive thicko.
( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:22, Reply)

it fucking does.
Frankly anything below about 120 makes you barely worth talking to.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:26, Reply)

Really?
I work with a guy who quite obviously has a low IQ, he would have to read the instructions to know how to take the lid of a jam jar but he has a good memory so has learned and remembered a lot of stuff and is bloody good at his job, he has also led an interesting life so has a lot of interesting things to talk about. The fact that his ability to work things out for him self is low doesn't make him thick
( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:34, Reply)

Similarly
there are incredibly intelligent people out there with no idea of how to function socially or with any shred of common sense whatsoever. A friend of mine's daughter is one of these people. And I'm not talking about autists and Aspies, here.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:37, Reply)

My aunt got 155 in a MENSA test
and she believes in God
( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:40, Reply)

I'd still rather talk to a socially incompetent clever person
than a socially adept Daily Mail reader.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:45, Reply)

yes it does, this is what thick means
whether you are OK with it or not is another matter.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:43, Reply)

There's a massive difference between Knowledge, Experience and Intelligence
You can be extremely knowledgeable about a subject with a low IQ.
( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:50, Reply)

The only IQ I know is my brothers, as he was the only one ever tested in the family
His is 178.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:43, Reply)

I've never had mine tested.
Then again, I have little interest in doing so.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:45, Reply)

Was this on the internet?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:48, Reply)

just looked for something about Stephen Hawking's IQ and found this
'Hawking was asked about his IQ in a 2004 newspaper interview, and replied, "I have no idea. People who boast about their I.Q. are losers." '
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:50, Reply)

...said the dribbling flid.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:52, Reply)

I find it incredible that he still talks in the speak and spell voice after all these years
when technology has evolved to a point where the woman's voice in lifts can practically make you come in your pants just by saying 'Going down'.

Christ sake Hawking, you spaz, at least upgrade to Dalek or summat.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:53, Reply)

They did ask him if he wanted to
but he declined, since he had got so used to that voice that he felt like it was his own.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:57, Reply)

I like that about him
he seems like a decent chap
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:58, Reply)

When he's not cripple beating his wife!

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:01, Reply)

+with his eyebrow

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:18, Reply)

It's ok
I hear they have great make up sex.
( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:41, Reply)

It's a family of idiot savants

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:51, Reply)

It was on Art Attack.
AA's uncle Neil Buchanan, IQ 299, tested him.

AA got 988
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:52, Reply)

lawl

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:53, Reply)

Wrong brother

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:04, Reply)

Nope, MENSA done

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:04, Reply)

MENSA charge too much for me to bother taking a test that would change nothing
except either make me go boo hoo my IQ is 48 and I am a retard or hey look at my smugness my IQ is 230 everything I say is instantly more right than you.
( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:37, Reply)

Fat people rejoice
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14679497
(PsychoChomp, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:01, Reply)

Pfft! Everything nowadays can either give you a heart attack or protect you from cancer or vice versa.

( girlinthehole, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:09, Reply)

Facebook link but....
www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=269512464297
( Peej, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:12, Reply)

I hear that cancer protects you from heart attacks

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:14, Reply)

This is how I see it...
1) The continued removal of facilities for children, youths and young adults is something that needs to be reversed. Take away all the youth clubs and recreation centres and what's left for them to do? In Brighton, the telephone exchange boxes are all graphettied to look awesome. Give these kids a load of spray paint, give them a load of walls, tell them not to do swears, and be creative. See all these football pitches and tennis courts in schools that go empty in the evenings? What's the real cost of keeping the lights on at night and leaving the door open?

2) Kids aren't hungry enough, look at anyone successful by their own merit, then they've been hungry. Weather it's to prove to their parents that they can make it on their own, or weather it's to get out an endless struggle with poverty.

3) Make crime unprofitable.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:18, Reply)

The thing is
'the continued removal of facilities for children, youths and young adults' is complete bollocks. When I was growing up an 'adventure playground' was a thing of wonder - Winchester had one single youth club - it was that or the fucking cub scouts. I can take my kid to about four of those play parks without even getting on a bus.

London children today have a million and one free and exciting things to do from sports clubs, the world's best museums to shitloads of community projects etc. The idea that these kids have nothing to do is complete rubbish. They'd just rather smoke weed than do anything else - I'm not judging them on this, that's how I was too.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:27, Reply)

^this
I grew up somewhere where there was basically fuck all to do as a kid (compared to London at least) and I'm still not an antisocial cunt
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:32, Reply)

Only because there's nothing worth looting where you are.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:33, Reply)

But your parents had jobs
and you had prospects.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:34, Reply)

Don't go brining logic into this AL
you'll make all the lolreactionary types froth and gibber.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:35, Reply)

Quite so.
But the 'they have nothing to do' angle is bullshit.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:35, Reply)

my dad was a miserable cunt
and my mum didn't work

I got a state funded education, we were far from rich. I had to pay my own way through unversity and into buying my own house etc.

The main real reason anyone doesn't have prospects is because they are stupid.

I'll admit I know fuck all about the situation that led to the rioting. I've never lived close to it, or probably even walked through places where it happened.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:36, Reply)

I love how these things always come back to someone saying
"I didn't do it myself, so there is no possible reason on earth why it could possibly have occurred with anyone else because my situation is directly comparable to everyone else's situation."

The implication of taking that line is that there is a massive section of society which has ceased to be considered as human and should be exterminated forthwith.

Now, fine, make that argument, if you're going to start off being jokey and unreasonable, but you can't argue there from a reasoned perspective.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:40, Reply)

I rarely try and argue from a reasoned perspective
I'm all too aware of how limited my experience and knowledge of this stuff is.

Often I'm curious about what the counter is to what I say, rather that actually thinking it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:43, Reply)

The implication of taking that line is that there is a massive section of society which has ceased to be considered as human and should be exterminated forthwith
you could have just put "scousers", dude.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:43, Reply)

not that I want to get drawn into it
but if you know fuck all about it, maybe making sweeping statements about it is not the brightest idea?
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:40, Reply)

welcome to the internet

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:41, Reply)

well, yes, there is this.
But I had thought better of you. You have a beard and a guitar and I am predisposed to like and respect such people.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:42, Reply)

honestly, I don't know enough about it
and don't speculate and try not be too judgmental without enough basis.

There are no easy anwsers really.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:44, Reply)

This is sense
But statements like "The main real reason anyone doesn't have prospects is because they are stupid.", when referring to said situation you know little about does rather make you look a dick, to me anyway, not that my opinion is of any value to you probably.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:47, Reply)

heh, I thought you were talking about the rest of it
that bit was the most blatantly flippant.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:48, Reply)

As you said, welcome to the internet, where no one can hear your tone of voice.
Well, we're clearly doing this wrong, this seems almost like reasoned agreement. Can't have this.

Scabface!
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:49, Reply)

I thought it was extreme enough that it would be obvious
sometimes things need to be discussed sensibly. Not often though.

My face is prickling. The pox has done weird things to my nerves. Occasionally it feels like water is dripping on my face or something.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:52, Reply)

I suppose so.
it's hard to tell, the same statement from Swipey would probably have been sincere, and from Monty who knows, I can never tell how much of his cuntishness is genuine.

Sadtimes on the face, now long til the ritual shackling? Have you thought of covering it with your beard, kind of a 'comb-up' if you will?
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:04, Reply)

true.
it's on the 10th, so have a while. The scabs will have gone, I might just be left a bit scarred and blotchy, but hopefully not too bad.

Fortunately my bieberesque fringe will cover a goodly portion, and my beard and sidies most of the rest. only trouble spot will be my right cheek, which is unfortunately where the worst of it is.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:07, Reply)

I'm sure if you borrowed some of the missus foundation for the day no one would think any less of you.....

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:11, Reply)

hopefully it won't come to that

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:17, Reply)

Apart from everyone on here.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:21, Reply)

some days I can see where Chompy's whole "that's the joke" thing comes from.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:27, Reply)

"oh no! the people on the internet think less of me!"
not exactly a big concern
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:46, Reply)

Precisely this.

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:45, Reply)

I'm not sure if they ever appealed to the sort of kid
they're trying to attract off the streets
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:51, Reply)

My pal 'Aroe' is responsible for about 50% of the graffiti in Brighton.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:29, Reply)

Also, does anyone have any experiance with Umami Paste ? I hear it's like crack, a natural MSG or soemthing, that the japanese consider "the 5th taste".
I saw it in marks'n'sparks so thought I'd give it a go.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:20, Reply)

Umami is the taste that MSG enhances
MSG is a type of salt. Umami paste is probably just a paste made of it. Try and avoid it. That shit will fuck you up.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:22, Reply)

I heard it's stronger than crystal meth.

(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:24, Reply)

I heard your foul odour is stronger than crystal meth.

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:25, Reply)

actually, if it's not made of MSG
then it'll probably be made of strong tasting things like anchovy to try and make the flavours more meaty.

Shouldn't really be necessary
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:26, Reply)

*copy'n'paste from a facebook group I'm in from someone who I think knows what they're talkign about*
Yesn I have tried it. Here comes my nutrition spiel: it is basically glutamic acid, of which monosodium glutamate (MSG) is a derivative. It is widely used in the far east, in fact it is often on the table next to the salt or soy sauce. The name 'Umami' actually means 'deliciousness' in Japanese, as they consider it to be the '5th flavour', after salt, sweet, sour and bitter. MSG is banned in Chinese restaurants in the UK as they used to use it liberally and this caused some people to have some nasty symptoms (I experienced it once myself, at a very crap Chinese restaurant in Chile- my friend and I ate there and almost immediately the back of my neck and face started burning. I felt light-headed and trippy, and everything was a bit surreal. The burning got worse and spread all over my throat and head but after a while these symptoms slowly disappeared- phew!!). Anyway because of these symptoms but also its widespread use in Asia, MSG/Glutamic Acid polarise opinions in the Nutrition/food worlds. I bought it recently and have used it in some sauces- it does give them extra tang and flavour but also sensitises the taste buds so I have ended up with that sensitive feeling in my mouth, like when you eat too many artificially flavoured crisps etc. Glutamic acid is a naturally occuring substance and the foods that have it most are things like tomatoes, asparagus and cheese- the highest concentration of glutamic acid per gram is found in Parmesan cheese. Tomatoes and cheese- this probably explains why Italian food is so popular the world over! And, why EVERYTHING tastes better with melted cheese on top! It is up to you if you want to try it- I have eaten heaps of Chinese take-aways and, as mentioned earlier, have only ever had a bad reaction once but there must have been shitloads of MSG in the food, for that to happen. MSG is widely believed to be bad for you- there has been a lot of research done about this and many studies have concluded that it can cause both short-term and long-term health problems yet many other studies have found absolutely not detrimental effects of MSG. Whilst glutamic acid is a natural product, I believe MSG is a synthetic variant of it therefore I would not be surprised if it did cause some problems when eaten in high doses (usually our bodies do not take to synthetic versions of naturally occuring foods, e.g. eating trans fats when we should be eating cis fats. The only difference between the two fats is the shape of the molecule yet that is enough to cause cancer). Food is a very powerful ally or enemy of health. Do some research yourselves and then decide whether to buy it or not :o)
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:39, Reply)

There is absolutely no evidence that MSG at the levels found in normal foods
has any detrimental health effect.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:42, Reply)

from personal experience
if I ate a big bag of MSG laden crisps at work, it makes me twitchy.

But eating an orange or smoking a cigarette makes that go away
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:47, Reply)

my friend gets that if she eats peanuts etc in a thai restaurant
personally i think she is a massive pink dramaqueen, but i have to look concerned. until she forgets.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:53, Reply)

it makes my mouth feel weird as well
it's pretty much only on crisps that it does it though.

Giving up smoking fags was much easier once I'd figured it out.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:57, Reply)

Umami was 'discovered' by a Japanese chap
but it's acknowledged worldwide as the fifth taste group. It's basically 'savoury' - parmesan cheese and Marmite are examples of strong umami.

See Vippers sbove re a paste; it'll be like that Maggi liquid seasoning but in paste form.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:33, Reply)

spot on
www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2282962363802&set=a.2225764573893.2127186.1541157116&type=1&theater
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:40, Reply)

It's asking me to log in which I can't, having as I do no login.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:46, Reply)

You should make a log in.
Then log in.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:48, Reply)

I shall not.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:55, Reply)

You've got more chance of persuading Monty to invade Poland than join Facebook.

( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:56, Reply)

shouldn't there be a not in there?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:00, Reply)

Ha ha possibly, yes.

( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:26, Reply)

I've used umami paste in a venison stew
hard to say if it made it taste better, though, it was pretty tasty the last time I made it (without the paste). I suspect it's a bit gimmicky, just use Worcestershire Sauce instead.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:48, Reply)

I think it will be a similar thing
same sort of ingredients as worcestershire
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:49, Reply)

Maybe the taste of the stew was hampered by the canned breakfast you also added?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:53, Reply)

Steady on
I might be lazy... and ignorant... and a bunch of other things, but I'm NOT going to do that to a venison stew.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:59, Reply)

Tell it to the judge, 'tin man'.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:26, Reply)