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This is a link post Cristal beer ads worked into star wars movies aired in chile
apparently this was to get around a chilean no-ad breaks promise, though it could all be some viral ad campaign bullshit I suppose, I don't care enough to investigate

(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 0:11, Reply)
This is a link post Jim Cornette on Brian's Antonio Inoki Keychain NSFW
Duration: 5:43
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This is a normal post Can you hear the gardener?

(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 10:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Not this time.
For some reason this clip made me laugh like a drain that's all.
(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 16:07, Reply)
This is a normal post I'll listen later :-)
How is AEW going? I am going to assume the product has not improved in Jim's eyes.
(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 16:35, Reply)
This is a link post Robert Murray-Smith died
His videos often came up in my feed, and I watched quite a few of the wind turbine related ones. Feeling sad.
(, Wed 8 Oct 2025, 18:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah, saw his "This is my last video" when it went up - not knowing he'd already unalived.
Sad.
(, Wed 8 Oct 2025, 21:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, shit.

(, Wed 8 Oct 2025, 22:06, Reply)
This is a normal post He died in 1921. Get over it, and move on.

(, Wed 8 Oct 2025, 22:15, Reply)
This is a normal post Very sad
Worth a read:
hackaday.com/2025/10/08/honoring-the-legacy-of-robert-murray-smith/
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This is a normal post This was worth reading. Thanks.

(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 8:24, Reply)
This is a normal post Keep CALM and carry on
Not a joke. I've lost friends to suicide, two of them my besties at the time.
I've been close myself, but never stepped over the line.
There's always hope somewhere.
(, Wed 8 Oct 2025, 23:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Indeed
I had a bit of a breakdown last week and have been spiralling since. I've had issues with anxiety before, never bad enough to medicate, but this time I've been really bad, anxiety, depression, panic attacks, the whole nine yards. It took me until this morning to even call my best mate - who has been through similar in the past - which is fucking ridculous.
I think we're better than we used to be about talking about this stuff, but it's still stupidly difficult to make that call, even though I expect the majority of my friends have their own issues.
Anyway, feeling a bit more human now, and have a doctor's appointment next week.
God bless internet anonymity
(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 11:16, Reply)
This is a normal post
*mental hugs*
(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 13:12, Reply)
This is a normal post Keep strong
Been there too and felt stupid and guilty for doing so but you're not alone and lots of people love you.
(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 13:29, Reply)
This is a normal post don't get anxious about your anxiety and compound it, is my anonymous internet advice
just accept you're feeling it with a detached acknowledgement, like it's your haemorroid playing up again. something that will be unpleasant but won't kill you. it's just feelings. you recognise it, and developing the self-awarenes to recognise when you're catastrophising because of it is also part of that, but you'll find ways to function despite it while you slowly wait for your equilibrium to eventually return.
I'm afraid that's all we're got time for. If you'd like to book another session, speak to frida on the way out
(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 13:36, Reply)
This is a normal post Take some time to do what you love.
Playing with mam’s dog always did the trick for me. Cooking something nice for myself too.
And stay away from booze; it does more harm than good.

Stay strong b3ta buddy.
(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 14:27, Reply)
This is a normal post Finding someone helpful to talk to is important.
The meds will be interesting, don't lose hope if the first ones don't cut it. It takes time to find a suitable one, same for therapists.
You will survive this, most people do.
Be kind to yourself.
(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 16:15, Reply)
This is a normal post Been there, and boy does it suck
but the hardest part of getting better is asking for help, and you’ve done that bit! Yay! Go you! etc

Meds might work for you, they might not. Personally I found them useful to get me the space/capacity to find a therapist, and that talking to a professional was what really helped me.

My GP said two things that stuck with me:
“Treatments are like trying on jeans. Some of them fit, some of them don’t, but you can always try a different pair”

“Therapy is like going through your pockets, working out what’s rubbish you can throw away, what’s a credit card receipt you need to deal with, and what’s a treasured item you need to hang on to”

Good luck, I hope you get the help you need, and can come out with lighter pockets.
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This is a normal post he could have at least released the schematics of how he offed himself

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This is a normal post This made me chuckle.

(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 8:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Sad news
Just remember the joy & positivity he brought to many :D
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This is a link post Fresh Fcukery


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This is a normal post Oy! What dreck!
I don't mean to kvetch, but as if that granny in the middle could kick the crap out of an attacker.
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This is a normal post I'll have you know she's a black belt.
In Jewjitsu.
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This is shtick dreck! Es klapt mir in kop!
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This is a normal post Imagine your Journalism career being so fucking shit
that you're having more success copypasting unexpurgated LLM-generated slop into your articles than you possibly would using what's left of your own brain.

Fuck me.

Edit:After taking a look at her other articles, I'm questioning whether she's a real person at all...
(, Wed 8 Oct 2025, 5:56, Reply)
This is a normal post journalism's been on the slide for decades, more's the pity
used to know quite a few, print and tv. None of the them are still working as journos.
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This is a normal post RIS?

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This is a link post Ronseal
A look at the 'AI' shitstorm.

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 17:09, Reply)
This is a normal post It has fucked space science and history content on yt.
Slop videos are regularly snuck into my feed. Robot voice, aimless repetitive script saying odd things and mispronouncing words and names than no expert or enthusiast ever would... Filler text consisting of cliches and dead end tangents... It's not always super easy to spot the stuff instantly, which is annoying.

Occasionally a friend will try to talk to me about something astronomical and increasingly the stuff they tell me is complete bollocks from a slop video.

YT is fully on board and is actively encouraging content creators to make this crap, according to Universe Today. We need a human-only alternative.
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 19:05, Reply)
This is a normal post Why Don't You Just Switch Off Your Internet and Go and Do Something Less Boring Instead?

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 21:55, Reply)
This is a normal post You first.

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 23:10, Reply)
This is a normal post *makes a go-cart from an old lawn mower*

(, Wed 8 Oct 2025, 7:37, Reply)
This is a normal post ^this
Utter toss has been around long before LLMs joined the party
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This is a normal post Try logging out of yt.
See what you can see. The landscape has changed.
(, Wed 8 Oct 2025, 16:16, Reply)
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Ironically, Kurzgesagt's tiresome voice over and mismatched synthetic music always sounded artificial
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This is a normal post Worrying about YT going down the pan is just the beginning.

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This is a normal post We're all doomed!

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This is a normal post End of the world is next wednesday!

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This is a normal post Is there a preview?

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This is a normal post SFW
rb.gy/2eornv
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I learned two things from this video:

1) How to pronounce Kurzgesagt.
2) You can persuade 4.5m people to voluntarily watch a twelve minute advert for a calendar.
(, Wed 8 Oct 2025, 17:55, Reply)
This is a normal post It has got cute artwork
for an advert.
(, Wed 8 Oct 2025, 19:01, Reply)
This is a normal post so i think what they're basically saying is, they're incapable of making a product which immediately distinguishes itself from ai-generated garbage
also a lot of righteous anger about stealing the work of creative people in a video which does not have a single original defining element. Everything in this is drawn from the work and ideas of others who came before. I don't think it's any better than the thing it criticizes.
(, Wed 8 Oct 2025, 22:47, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh, do please tell me your completely original idea.

(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 13:35, Reply)
This is a normal post A pen that doubles as a pipe cleaner for stainless steel drinking straws.

(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 13:57, Reply)
This is a normal post Not a fair comparison, they talk a lot about fact checking.
Yes, almost everything builds on what has gone before, with humans making attempts to verify, the current iteration of 'AI' doesn't seem to differentiate much between established fact and opinion/propaganda/conspiracy bollocks.
(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 16:28, Reply)
This is a normal post We've always had slop
Stock Aitken and Waterman flooded the music world with slop. It's just the amount of slop.

AI can generate slop in sufficient quantities to drown out genuinely creative humans. It's already pretty much there in science papers.
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This is a normal post SAW music wasn't slop.
It was derived from Motown and acid house and is actually rather well written in some cases. Not being to your taste doesn't make it slop.

You are also trying to compare truth and art. Art slop is not the same problem as fake news/science/history.
(, Thu 9 Oct 2025, 16:15, Reply)
This is a link post Peterson V Peterson
I think I have trained my algorithm to give me old clips I can't believe are not GC
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 15:26, Reply)
This is a normal post It's the most sense he's ever made.

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 15:54, Reply)
This is a link post The Vape - MUSIC 6 10 2025
One of Petr Válek's new ones.

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 13:19, Reply)
This is a normal post Sounds too much like the new Taylor Swift album for my tastes
but I'll give it a click anyways...
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 13:44, Reply)
This is a link post Marquis (Henri Xhonneux, 1989) NSFW
Pretty sure this must have appeared on here at some point in the past...it used to regularly be shown on the screens in the main room at Jilly's Rockworld rock club in Manchester.
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This is a normal post Firstly : CANDLES!!!
secondly : What the fuck did I just watch?
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 9:16, Reply)
This is a normal post Erm. Thanks for sharing. The subtitles didn't help.
CANDLES!!!!
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 9:42, Reply)
This is a normal post HAPPY CANDLES

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 10:52, Reply)
This is a normal post Happy Candles!

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 12:17, Reply)
This is a normal post Happ(osai)y Candles
But based on the previous comments, I ain't risking that......Go well, young Paduan thingummyjig.
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 12:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Many Happy Candules!

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 13:38, Reply)
This is a normal post Happy candles
That channel has a really good collection of stolen cult movies. Just needs Alex Cox to introduce each one.
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 14:41, Reply)
This is a normal post There's a long playlist of moviedrome intros on yt
don't recall them ever doing 'Man bites Dog' or ' Black Emmanuelle II' though
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 20:52, Reply)
This is a normal post 21 happy flaming candles CANCELLED BY WOKE

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 18:47, Reply)
This is a normal post No room for candles,
there's a lobster up there already...
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 20:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Sticking candles up one’s bum is nothing compared to this film.
Besides, a man discussing his feelings with his talking penis is probably woke. Somehow.
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 22:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Hey now, I never claimed to be sticking those candles up anyone's bum, I was merely reporting how many flaming candles happened to be up there.

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This is a normal post Happy Candles !!!!

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 20:30, Reply)
This is a normal post I too remember watching this here.
Might have been me that linked it, I forget.
Anyway, enjoy the candles and keep your dick out of holes in the wall, no matter how inviting they may seem.

Oh, and avoid camel priests; they’re all duplicitous, conniving bastards.
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 22:11, Reply)
This is a link post AI is thick as shit.
We all knew it, here is a thorough take down of why it is

Why do LLMs freak out over the seahorse emoji?


(, Mon 6 Oct 2025, 17:48, Reply)
This is a normal post That looks fascinating
And I'd love to be able to put in enough time to understand it, but alas the list of things I want to to is only getting shorter because I'm starting to realise I'm unlikely to be physically capable of ever doing them!
I even suspect a pull-up might be out of the question...
(, Mon 6 Oct 2025, 21:14, Reply)
This is a normal post Just aim for pulling yourself up by a cm or an inch

(, Mon 6 Oct 2025, 21:32, Reply)
This is a normal post It's all just silly maths
And will all blow over soon enough.

Do what makes you happy
(, Mon 6 Oct 2025, 21:46, Reply)
This is a normal post Unless you are disabled in some way, then the only thing stopping you is you not doing it.

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 9:56, Reply)
This is a normal post So, if he can't do it, he's disabled?

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This is a normal post Those doing wheelchair pull-ups are disabled in some way but seem to manage fine

(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 12:29, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, I might not be there yet
But at some age it's going to be physically impossible to train enough to do a pull-up. Would that count as a disability? I guess you could argue it does but I doubt I'd get a blue badge!
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So it's susceptible to the Mandela effect, like humans
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 10:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Yep
It was trained to people stuff so it makes people fuckups
It should have been trained on dogs or a nice cup of tea.
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 10:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Some people train it on animal communication to make beluga fuckups
earthspecies.org
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This is a normal post I still see people labouring under the assumption that AI liebots offer an authoritative information service.
Many of them seem genuinely surprised when reality-based people take the piss out of them for it.
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This is a link post The Last Lighthouse
1973 documentary about Britains most remote lighthouse
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This is a normal post I got vertigo and claustrophobia just watching this
Much respect to them for doing that.
(, Mon 6 Oct 2025, 23:59, Reply)
This is a link post Seamless.

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This is a normal post According to Streetview, this is how they park their cars.

(, Mon 6 Oct 2025, 12:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Jesus Christ.
They tarmacked that lovely garden.
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This is a normal post Some people don't deserve them.

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Now I want a life size, badly cut-out car, to appear 'shopped on streetview.
(, Mon 6 Oct 2025, 22:21, Reply)
This is a normal post My work's internet filter
blocks RightMove, but allows me to come and visit B3ta. WTF?
I'm not going to complain about it though...
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This is a normal post I’m not sure what I’m looking for
Did they update it?
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They seem to have deleted the good one. It looked a lot like that one up there ^
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This is a normal post Well it’s undoubtedly bad
But not that much worse than some of the interior photo staging.
(, Tue 7 Oct 2025, 21:30, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm actually alright with the interior shots.
Too many of these listings using images with low-distortion super-wide angle lenses that make pokey one-bed studio flats look like sweeping penthouses.
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This is a link post Goatse lives on

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This is a normal post What?

(, Sun 5 Oct 2025, 19:20, Reply)
This is a normal post Looks like a private group.
You might want to screengrab.
(, Sun 5 Oct 2025, 21:15, Reply)
This is a normal post Facebook?
No thank you.
(, Sun 5 Oct 2025, 22:14, Reply)
This is a link post Vogon constructor ship build
- from Greig Johnson Making

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This is spookily relevant to my interests, given that I'm currently kitbashing a spaceship and listening to the Hitchhiker radio series.
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This is a normal post I am a wizard you know

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If you're a wizard, tell me how I should attach these engines. I can't figure it out.
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If Greig Johnson has taught me anything, it's that almost any problem can be solved with an appropriate application of hot glue.
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I've been trying to work something out with steel rods, but I'm beginning to think the answer might just be a fuckton of Milliput.
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This is a normal post Steel rods and a fuck ton of mlilliput
Works for me, some of my stuff is still holding together a good fifteen years later
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This is a normal post
www.thistothat.com/
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This is a normal post This is ace

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This is a link post One Pull Up Day D-Day. I made this!
Today is the day of the one pull up. Awful night's sleep - I imagine this is how footballers feel before the FA Cup final. Whatever happens today I have absolutely loved training for this one pull up. I'd go so far as to say it's been transformational and I've never been so committed to something so seemingly pathetic. Anyway I'd highly recommend it to anyone who is a slightly chubby, out of shape, and looking for a moderate, but obviously epic, challenge. Thanks for the support (from most of you!). That's been the best part really - chatting pull ups, and general 'getting older' advice over the DMs etc. Cheers. Simon

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This is a normal post GWAN!!! Release the Beast

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This is a normal post I am far more invested in this
than I was expecting to be when you started.

You’ve got the first half of the movement, you’ve got the second half. You can absolutely do this!

UNLEASH THE BEAST!!!
(, Sun 5 Oct 2025, 12:17, Reply)
This is a normal post Check the YouTube channel, he livestreamed it...

(, Sun 5 Oct 2025, 17:23, Reply)
This is a normal post I think he's right
you've been close for ages but your mindset hasn't kept pace with your physical progress
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This is a normal post 💥BOSTIN'!!💥

(, Mon 6 Oct 2025, 0:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Be proud of your efforts
Keep it up
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This is a link post Current Thing NSFW

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This is a normal post interesting that you've come down on the jkr side of that spat

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If YouTube is starting to recommend the Critical Drinker, you're already on the alt-right pathway.
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This is a normal post Presumably now we all are.
Thanks to the communal b3ta algorithm.
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This is a normal post Ohhhh
ta very much!
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This is a normal post Hey, it's that bird from the Harry Potter films!

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This is a normal post not watching anything on that cunt's channel

(, Sun 5 Oct 2025, 13:42, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm sure a video from a youtuber will really upset her
while she looks at her sixty million pounds...
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This is a normal post pretty sure watson wasn't walking back her position on trannies in talking about Rowling
as this sneery vid makes out. it was a "I still care for her anyway" olive branch, though I think Rowiling was well within her rights to tell her to get fucked
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This is a link post Adaptive optics deformable mirror prototype
This one is for the engineering/physics nerds - I know there are one or two of you here. lol
I've followed Huygens Optics' channel for a few years. I think it's one of those gems in the Youtubiverse that gives me a glimmer of hope for the interwebs.
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His lens grinding setup is mesmerising
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSZLGAuJTLQ
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This is a link post Rather pertinent
Again, surprised this 17-year-old clip isn't GC...
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This is a normal post Pertinent

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This is a normal post 'fork found in kitchen'

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This is a normal post Sounds unlikely. Jimmy Carr just did a gig there and he's well known for his judgement and morals

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Something something steel beams?
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This is a normal post Coming to the surprise of absolutely fucking nobody.

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This is a normal post They have got loads of money, so that's okay.

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This is a normal post It's almost like the Bin Laden family is massively influential and institutionally conjoined with the state of Saudi Arabia and everybody with a passing interest already knew that.

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This is a normal post seems a bit of a stretch for the article to go from a lawsuit alleging a saudi embassy official helped some of the hijackers find an apartment
to saying "the global War on Terror was based on a mistake". I guess it's punchy for those who tldr and grist to the "saudi bad. no comedy for bad saudi" mill
I had a quick wade through the court filing for my own curiousity and they seem to be making the legal argument that they don't actually need to show evidence of direct involvement or knowlege of the saudi government for their tort (damages claim) to be valid, citing cases that they only need to show material support (aparment finding help) and that those giving it were employed by a foreign government. Good luck to them, I think the yanks have been stingy with their compo, so perhaps the saudis might cough up something after almost 30 years, they're not short of a quid.
My take is it sounds like this Thumairy character had been getting a stipend by the saudi intelligence service since 1990 to report what various saudi in the US were up to while performing his main job of giving consular help. That's pretty much the shocking new revelation in the case, "fbi records...confirming Thumairy’s regular involvement in receiving radicals upon their arrival in the U.S.and hosting them while in Los Angeles" It's possible he was sympathetic to wahabist causes like al queda, but no evidence he knew about the plot or had any direct involvement in it, or in fact, treated them any differently to any other saudis he dealt with in previous years. He might have been getting regular pay for being an informer, little diferrent to how other spy agencies use embassy staff.

As a small aside, I once had a saudi student staying at my place for a brief year I lived in Sydney. Nice bloke, paid his board and was no fuss. Had a few chats with him to learn about life there, though he did once offer to give me a koran which I politely refused. Said his dad was a real estate agent in Riyadh. Had a knock at the door one evening and it was the Consul General from the Saudi embassy. He'd come personally to my apartment in maroubra to check up on this kid.
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This is a normal post The 'Global War on Terror' was nothing but a convenient excuse to do some good ol' liberating.
There is no fucking way on earth that US intelligence services weren't aware of an impending attack on American soil. The 3,000 dead is peanuts in exchange for the utterly perfect propaganda piece that a (second) attack on the Twin Towers offered.

The idea that using a hikacked plane as a weapon instead of a bargaining chip was unimaginable before September 11th is also utter bollocks.

The only mistakes made were in how American troops conducted themselves overseas in the following years.
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This is a normal post Remember apartheid?
Remember boycotting apartheid?
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This is a normal post i do remember it, it was a consistent global movement to isolate one country. I supported it in my student days
and it did eventually have a fair influence on change after decades. Consistent international sanctions and their stagnant economy led botha to internal reforms before de clerk ripped the band aid off. People were quite clear about the issue, the disenfranchisement of 85% of the population based on race.
However I don't see this with Saudi. they're not hugely different from other muslim country in the status of women or gays. They're an autocracy (that britain created), but so are many countries, so the question would be why pick on them instead of say, Oman or uzbekistan, or pakistan for that matter if people are posting about countries that helped 9/11 hijackers? I don't see this international movement or sanctions against them. If you do and think this will bring about change, I can respect that. Picketing BAE for doing huge amounts of business with them. refusing to fly with airlines that use aramco aviation fuels like many british airlines do, etc. Supporting Saudi women calling for change.
But I'd bet for most this is just people posting shit having a go at some comedian doing a gig there is the extent of their opposition. it's the lamest, laziest form of vitue signalling. And rather than aparteid, you could use the better example of an autocratic opressive state that had done horrible shit, the soviet union. It wasn't sanctions and the 40 years of cold war that brought it down. I reckon that opposition helped prop them up. It was when we finally relaxed and allowed them to be exposed to western culture. All the shit they were missing. blue jeans, billy joel touring there in 87. the population had a taste and decided they had dick of it, and it collapsed, even rejecting gorbi's compromise of glasnost. these things happen by internal pressure, what we really want is enough saudis to think our western values are worth adopting. Can't see how stopping the first comedy festival in an authoritarian state acheives this. Anyway, I've waffled enough and made my points, but I imagine if the soviet union was around today those same people would be whining online to cancel billy joel, and he's the piano man goddammit
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I remember when it was 'The War Against Terror' before they changed it because it spelt TWAT.
(, Mon 6 Oct 2025, 0:20, Reply)
This is a normal post TWOT is much better.

(, Mon 6 Oct 2025, 11:02, Reply)

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