
comes up to me today & points out he’s Turkish I am going to takes up arms against em. Fer Fucks sake, these are the same people who piss off to the Pamplona Bull Running so they can “experience the culture” over there….. George has been a national icon in this country since the bleeding 14th Century, part of our heritage. To me that makes him part of our culture, I know it’s in to be anti nationalistic, but the current trend to laughing at anything with English connotations really ticks me off.

Why don’t we just pack the whole lot in and paint the bloody place grey and live in a fucking UPVC featureless country, Fuck it we got Tescos and telly, what else do we need.
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Why don’t we just pack the whole lot in and paint the bloody place grey and live in a fucking UPVC featureless country, Fuck it we got Tescos and telly, what else do we need.

and I shall wash it down with some locally brewed ale (Hoggley's)


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you're thinking of Russell GrantHe's round . . . and sweaty . . .



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a spiffing home-brew bitter
i feel really proud that i no longer have to pay through the teeth for shitty larger anymore
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i feel really proud that i no longer have to pay through the teeth for shitty larger anymore

it's nicer if you use spring waterrather than tap water . . . I dunno I've never made any


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even with the value spring water.....make the beer more yum
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It already is...
/Londoner
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/Londoner

I have a one man, fictitious archtectural crusade going on at the moment.
UPVC is killing our lovely Victorian / Edwardian housing!
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UPVC is killing our lovely Victorian / Edwardian housing!

Pronounced Sarfen
Where the council houses are made of aluminium
honest
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Where the council houses are made of aluminium
honest

hes Turkish you know?
EDIT: - that table spread made me spluff!

You have a point, I don't know why people are needlessly snooty about things like this. 'Oh St Whoever wasn't from place X'.
Just tell them to run along and find somebody who actually does give a shit, so maybe they can smear it in their smug excuse for a boat race.
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Just tell them to run along and find somebody who actually does give a shit, so maybe they can smear it in their smug excuse for a boat race.

and needs to end
no doubt with some serious force
it fucking pisses me off, but then it's too much effort for folk to actually rationally think about anything
meh
*discomeats sad now*
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no doubt with some serious force
it fucking pisses me off, but then it's too much effort for folk to actually rationally think about anything
meh
*discomeats sad now*

I don't ACTUALLY hate Americans, I hate the politics that comes out of there. And most Americans I've met have been extraordinarily remedial but certainly not all. There was a lovely guy we met in the Dam called David, he was going around telling everyone he was Canadian, bless him. Really lovely chap.
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But have you met a redneck?
In general I hate generalisations
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In general I hate generalisations

im of red neck stock....
but then again you haven't met me and therefore might think im a cnut.
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but then again you haven't met me and therefore might think im a cnut.

you could fall into that category
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:D
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the whole world is fucked up man, can't we all just get along, with one big group hug.
we'd get more done.
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we'd get more done.

if people bitch about England and they're not English it puts my back up. But then I remember they're right and have to conceed.
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yay two hugs today! it's like easter and xmas all rolled into one
:D
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:D

*picks up salad fork*
Right, come on then, let's start a rebellion.
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Right, come on then, let's start a rebellion.

I did a presentation on this very phenomenon very odd. Did you know that only Wales had a patron saint that was of British origin?
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And there were no snakes because Ireland didn't get warm enough before it was cut off at the end of the ice age.
And Guinness is shite
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And Guinness is shite

ask him when he's going to murder your family for old time's sake
edit: I really like that teapot :D
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edit: I really like that teapot :D

George was an imigrant and gave up his native country! He was then made a full member of English society and killed a Dragon.
**Carlsberg dont make Saints for England, But if they did it would be 'ST GEORGE'**
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**Carlsberg dont make Saints for England, But if they did it would be 'ST GEORGE'**


Are you in fact me by any chance? I would hope you'd tell me/you/us if you were.
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unfortunately, the binary thought processes of the people reading the popular press cannot make this distinction.
I support patriotism. Right on, engligga.
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I support patriotism. Right on, engligga.

But talking to a smug twunt in his silly sunglasses (raining today)and his H & M jacket harping on..."oh it's all sooo dumb, it's like morris dancers and shit...."
"glarey type eyes from me..."
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"glarey type eyes from me..."

Yes, there are morris dancers and plenty of things from history which could be better commemorated, but many of these things have been shunted out by the influence of american culture.
I dare say, the smug twunt in his silly sunglasses and his H&M jacket would probably have phrased his sentence more like "Like, it's all so totally dumb, you know? Like, what? Morris dancers? Like, uh, yeh right"
It's not a pop at americans, it's just my opinion on the erosion of english tradition.
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I dare say, the smug twunt in his silly sunglasses and his H&M jacket would probably have phrased his sentence more like "Like, it's all so totally dumb, you know? Like, what? Morris dancers? Like, uh, yeh right"
It's not a pop at americans, it's just my opinion on the erosion of english tradition.

/you could also be an even smugger bastard and correct him, stating that he was in fact Anatolian, and not Turkish, as there was no such reference to the place at the time.

I didn't say it was anything to do with St George, but it is the only foodstuffs I have to hand
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Shall be allowed by appointment of the Queen for they are so yummeh !
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/realises he has 9 more and may start to feel ill if he keeps eating them...
Teacake anyone?
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Teacake anyone?

i'm going to have a great british curry for tea tonight.
Hazzar! for St. George! i'm going to buy some of this as well (http://www.goffs.biz/whiteknight.php).
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Hazzar! for St. George! i'm going to buy some of this as well (http://www.goffs.biz/whiteknight.php).

Tea = Indian
Scones = Scottish
Roast Beef = Roman
Yorkshire puddings = yummy
Bollocks to history
Also, does it really matter where St George was from? He fought a fucking dragon!
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Scones = Scottish
Roast Beef = Roman
Yorkshire puddings = yummy
Bollocks to history
Also, does it really matter where St George was from? He fought a fucking dragon!

It's not the worst, it's just one of the less good ones in Western Europe. :P
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it might not piss me off so much. As it is it tends to be cocks getting pissed and trying to kill each other before slipping one up the wrong 'un whilst they spend the night in the cells.
nice picture though (although I'd rather have Cains or Bombardier)
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nice picture though (although I'd rather have Cains or Bombardier)

When all the chairs are up, the lights are out and everybody's gone home.
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IF IT WASNT FOR THE NORMANS ENGLAND WOULD BE CALLED HENGLAND
SOME OF THIS ISNT TRUE
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SOME OF THIS ISNT TRUE

here's my response to the polotuks.
Nationalism is a shallow comfort for the part of our brain that deals with recognition of other humans as "familiar". It was useful in the feudal mid-ages of Europe, but became less useful as the world "grew smaller". Culture, and nationalism can be considered as distinguisable from each other. Or perhaps the other route would be to say nationalism is a sub-part of culture? I would recommend reading the MonkeySphere...
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Nationalism is a shallow comfort for the part of our brain that deals with recognition of other humans as "familiar". It was useful in the feudal mid-ages of Europe, but became less useful as the world "grew smaller". Culture, and nationalism can be considered as distinguisable from each other. Or perhaps the other route would be to say nationalism is a sub-part of culture? I would recommend reading the MonkeySphere...

Only to IQ deficient thugs who can't tell the difference between football and England however and considers anything or anyone that might be foriegn to be shit.
Anyway, part of the English identity is self-deprication so I don't really know what's wrong with doing that.
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Anyway, part of the English identity is self-deprication so I don't really know what's wrong with doing that.

He was serving in the Roman army in what is now Turkey. He never visited England, spoke English and probably knew nothing about England.
He was brought in by the Normans to try and stop the populace adoring their English heroes.
So, from a certain point of view, English nationalist zealots idolise an immigrant! (As do the Irish and the Scots)
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He was brought in by the Normans to try and stop the populace adoring their English heroes.
So, from a certain point of view, English nationalist zealots idolise an immigrant! (As do the Irish and the Scots)