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[challenge entry] So I wonder, while I wander,
if there are gods they must be drunk,

revelling in the madness you and I.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:57, archived)
# Is that some kind of weapon?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:59, archived)
# Is that a sex pistol?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:02, archived)
# no
its a FistPistol 3000
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:02, archived)
# and if I'm not mistaken it's set to..
"Swan necking mode"
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:17, archived)
# Not quite, PW,
but you're on the right path. Think Chicago 1990 instead of London 1977...
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 21:30, archived)
# Nobody?
OK, I must be the only one who likes...
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Naked Raygun
(, Sun 16 Dec 2007, 9:26, archived)
[challenge entry] I think this is an improvement on the real band
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:55, archived)
# DANTS!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:58, archived)
# I have no idea what that means
but i am going to interpret any reply as constructive criticism
DANTS! it is.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:00, archived)
# When something appears to be doing a little dance
it is DANTS TIME.

And DANTS TIME is always a good thing.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:03, archived)
# oh i see
I think i will have to adopt that in conversational idiolect.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:04, archived)
[challenge entry] I'm sorry
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:47, archived)
# binary
finary - some old house toon but can't fink of the title?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:50, archived)
# 1998
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:18, archived)
# what
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:51, archived)
# Edit: *removes clue*
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:52, archived)
# would rather
remain ignorant.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:54, archived)
# Why should I go to the effort?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:54, archived)
# I didn't say you had to.
But I decided to interpret "what" as "What is it?" not "What the hell are you doing, please fuck off" despite the blatant signpost pointing to the latter.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:55, archived)
# :D
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:58, archived)
# Got any more bunnies lined up?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:07, archived)
# I have ideas. But I also have games to play.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:13, archived)
# if i knew how
then i would've translated it by now cos it's doin me feckin head in :)

ps - jealous as FUCK that you seein aussie floyd...
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:59, archived)
# If you can get here, then:
www.plymouthpavilions.com/events/details.asp?act=765

Assuming you're an England dweller?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:04, archived)
# is it datarock?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:52, archived)
# Nope :)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:52, archived)
# is it shit?
yes
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:34, archived)
#
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:45, archived)
# assuming that that is Westlife
you should put it in the compo
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:48, archived)
# Haha
I could think of quite a few more
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:50, archived)
[challenge entry] RIP I.C.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:43, archived)
# is it Ween?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:46, archived)
# is that wayne
in a scottish accent?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:48, archived)
# The title's a.....
dead giveaway.

Should arrange those teams into a new order, mind!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:06, archived)
# haha
this sports division looks particularly joyful
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:42, archived)
[challenge entry] They changed their name

Okay, this is pretty shit but I'm not much of an animator (plus this is Flash exported as a gif and, well, it ain't great). Plus the band is fictional. In all other respects it's the greatest compo entry in the history of the board.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:40, archived)
# erm, Take That?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:46, archived)
# No
Like I said, the band is fictional. Both names are in the shonky animation...
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:00, archived)
# :/
limp bizkit?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:29, archived)
# No - but looks like it.
Starts frozen, but then it's burned away to almost nothing....

My so-called art.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 21:06, archived)
# Soft cell?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 23:44, archived)
# It's really not worth the effort
The band's called Frozen Embryos (but they became Residue later)

From My So-Called Life.
(, Fri 14 Dec 2007, 12:02, archived)
[challenge entry] Let's go back to the rock, back to the rock...
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:33, archived)
# Mary Mary and co?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:39, archived)
# Yep, them lot.
PSP wouldn't let me do the circular texty thing to put the names in. Arses.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:41, archived)
# OK,
now edited for names.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:04, archived)
# Rene and Renata?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:47, archived)
# Woooooo....
Apollo 440! With Mary Byker on guest vox.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:09, archived)
[challenge entry] One Man Band in a Dark Sedan
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:31, archived)
# snaaake finger...
da daaaaa daaaaa...
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:32, archived)
# snake arm?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:41, archived)
# argh!
that's ace/disturbing
enter it as this
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:43, archived)
# Bite click !
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:47, archived)
# he's the man, the man with the snaaaaaakey finger!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:47, archived)
# Meanwhile in Iraq...
The dyslexic special envoy on climate change made an embarassing faux pas...



Click for biggedy biggedy BOOM
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:26, archived)
# gnome?
edit: gnupiss
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:27, archived)
# Nope...
Carbomb footprint...
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:28, archived)
# haha!
im reminded os someone elses snowmen!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:28, archived)
# boom boom!
btw: clcik for big doesn't work. Don't use protobucket.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:28, archived)
# Fixed...
and why not? :)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:29, archived)
# because they have bandwidth limitations
are cranky and stop working or might close down your account if you post pictures of nameless naughty old midgets who think they are royalty and wear tacky garments in a dark shade of violet.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:34, archived)
# You mean that cunt Prince?
OMG!!!!!!!!!
I called prince a cunt on the interweb!!!
CALL THE COPS!!!!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:37, archived)
# no I mean
the cunt formerly known as
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:44, archived)
# Arf!



(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:31, archived)
[challenge entry] live in pompie?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:15, archived)
# most of the other people who did this
had him more magenta than pink too
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:17, archived)
# oop
never see'd em did i

:(
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:19, archived)
# Magenta IS pink.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:26, archived)
# I'll let you get away with it, given your user name.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:19, archived)
# ta
la
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:20, archived)
# This has been done so many times,
but I don't get tired of it
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:23, archived)
# I just found this in my kitchen
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:12, archived)
# that
is brilliant!is it 3d studio max?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:13, archived)
# Ciconiidae Ciconia espiscopus episcopus
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:23, archived)
# Did you mean: Ciconiidae Ciconia episcopus episcopus?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:24, archived)
# you guys.
episcolorum episcapae episcoputae
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:26, archived)
# you mean episcoporum episcopal episcopate
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:27, archived)
# my
latins a bit rusty.:)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:30, archived)
# Indeed
Asiatic Woolly-necked Stork wandering around in your kitchen in a box
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:26, archived)
# speak aramaic for fuck's sake
maybe someone will understand you



:-P
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:40, archived)
# You have no idea how boring typing the list i'm currently doing is:
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:47, archived)
# euscorpius
sounds like the best of all the scorpions. some mighty new scorpion that's the best that ever lived
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:52, archived)
# haha i'm going to call up the chinese food place and order "Anatidae Aix Galericulata"
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:17, archived)
# HOI SIN SOURCE FTW!!!
:)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:22, archived)
# Aww, what's he afraid of?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:15, archived)
# Green balloons
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:17, archived)
# *hides all the green baloons*
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:18, archived)
# :)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:20, archived)
# Red Box?
Compo it!


Woo yay!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:15, archived)
# FOR AMERICA!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:17, archived)
# the other one!
*goes and looks it up*
edit: lean on me
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:18, archived)
# I prefered that one, but as you proved
it gets forgotten about
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:21, archived)
# I d/l'd the album a few months back.
Sickly sweet sugary pap!!!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:23, archived)
# someone mentioned them recently
in the context of music file-sharing and record companies sitting on albums, not making them available
ah, it was this guardian comment is free comment here
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:26, archived)
# he looks a friendly fellow
but i'm not sure how i can tell
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:16, archived)
# his flaps give it away
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:18, archived)
# clonk clonk clonk
woo
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:18, archived)
# ha!
definitely the right noise
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:20, archived)
# Box!
arf!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:19, archived)
# I have the urge to make several
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:21, archived)
# for the 26th?
*badum-tschhh*
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:25, archived)
# ahhhh, I see what you did there
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:28, archived)
# \o/
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:21, archived)
# that's lovely.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:22, archived)
# SNAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKE!
...
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/GAME OVER\
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:35, archived)
# hmmm, there's a strange cardboard box lying around in this here hallway of our top secret base...
and I'm sure I saw it somewhere else just a few minutes ago...

...

meh, I don't get paid nearly enough to care about this shit.
*walks away, whistling*
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:45, archived)
# And a wolf's gone and pissed on the corner...
What am I like?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:08, archived)
# nice
would make a cool screensaver..walking about in circles
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:35, archived)
# I keep expecting a number two to leap out
most impressive
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 20:01, archived)
# splendid
hit it with bricks
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 21:01, archived)
[challenge entry] another one
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:02, archived)
# Silly daveiscoolyeah!
It's partridge not porcupine!!
God only knows what would happen if you attempted the other eleven days!

Woo BTW!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:05, archived)
# Psst!
download some porcupine tree....
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:06, archived)
# Ah well, you see,
it was not compo'd when I started my reply, and i have never heard of such band,I thought it was just a picture of a porcupine tree, so i made fun of it, like we do on b3ta.
Are they any good?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:09, archived)
# They are really quite amazing.
I didnt see the compo bit before so ignored it. As soon as I did, I got it like a paedos cock to the mouth!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:24, archived)
# TRAINS!
Best song ever!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:06, archived)
# Haha, lovely
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:15, archived)
# I'm watching people watching television watching people watching television watching peoplewatching television watching...


CLICK FOR CINEMA-SIZE! AAARRRRRGGGGH!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:02, archived)
# It' like a more exciting version of Big Brother!
:D
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:04, archived)
[challenge entry] Way too easy...
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:02, archived)
# we can dance if we want to
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:03, archived)
# we can leave your friends behind, because
*dovetails into other comment*
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:04, archived)
# your friends don't dance and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine
:D
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:03, archived)
# we can go where we want to
weve got all your....time? and mine.....
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:06, archived)
# Ssss Aaaa Ffff Eeee Tttt Yyyy
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:09, archived)
# 12" remix FTW!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:13, archived)
[challenge entry] Three for the price of one!!!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:52, archived)
# arf!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:53, archived)
# I saw them at V.
They wre shit!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:54, archived)
# Which one,
or were they all there?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:56, archived)
# Ive now seen the other bands :)
You could have at least done a bit of Ruby Tuesday ;)

I saw the mondays, they were awful....
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:59, archived)
# This is winning in my mind
'clicks'
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:56, archived)
# Black Sabbath and Happy Mondays are easy
but what's Green Thursday?

*prepares to kick self*
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:57, archived)
#
Thurs
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:58, archived)
# bah!
*kicks hard*
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:59, archived)
# that's it! work that foot!



*didn't get it either*
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:02, archived)
# Green day.

(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:59, archived)
# Ohhhhhhh
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:59, archived)
# Green Day I assume?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:59, archived)
# Jesus! I only just got the other two!
/jewish blog, mines on a Friday sundown till Saturday sundown....
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:00, archived)
# Someone did a Jewish one earlier
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:02, archived)
# NAZIS!
Are they denying the holocaust?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:05, archived)
# pssst
Thurs
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:00, archived)
# Arf!
Genius,

*click*
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:00, archived)
# wow
thats well clever- i shall make a click also
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:01, archived)
# woo
I only got one without help
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:07, archived)
[challenge entry] I tihnk the band had been done, but not like this..
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:43, archived)
# You two are busy, aren't you?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:44, archived)
# yup :P
should be getting ready to go out... but im a man so ill do it on the way
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:46, archived)
# Not meaning to be rude, but you might want to slow it down or keep it in existing threads
This kind of thing bothers the regulars as it pushes off people hard work quite quickly.

Happy thursday nights though :)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:47, archived)
# fair play
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:48, archived)
# Alls fair in love and photoshop :)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:49, archived)
# Youre just too lovely SSS :)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:48, archived)
# I know. Flights of angels and all that.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:49, archived)
# God your such a cuntnazi
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:53, archived)
# At least I'm not a raging paedo
Hello, you unfortunately named cunt
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:54, archived)
# I haven't told you about this have I?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:57, archived)
# I saw it while lurking
I laughed at first. Then I felt mild pity. Then I laughed again.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:58, archived)
# It would be funny if it was happening to someone else.
I haven't actually had any genuine stick over it, but it is a worry!

How's you anyway?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:01, archived)
# Yes, I bet. Don't worry, it'll blow over.
I'm good ta, cold and sleepy and well. Hows you?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:02, archived)
# Similar!
Job one finished for the day, just about to head off to start job 2. So tired :(
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:07, archived)
# :(
I suggest bed and little else at the nearest opportunity
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:09, archived)
# "you're"
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:54, archived)
# y'oure"""""
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:56, archived)
# hahahahaha
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:58, archived)
# You're such a pidant
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:57, archived)
# Hey!
The Good Lord is not a Nazi!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:58, archived)
# OK
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:02, archived)
#
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:44, archived)
# Psst!
his name is jimmy FLOYD hasselbaink
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:45, archived)
# is that some kind of rhyming slang?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:46, archived)
# No,
beacause hes a cunt :0
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:47, archived)
# dont make sense?
you mean you dont get them, i even leave the file name as the band name so you dont have to try too hard and die of an aneurysm :P
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:47, archived)
# A million times
But normally with the Keith variety :)

At least he isnt disgracing a Charlton shirt anymore :)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:44, archived)
# Yes,
but either way, they're an awesome band :D
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:45, archived)
# Pink Fat Eddie Murphy
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:46, archived)
# Hehe, this.
And an opportunity to post another seamless punsportastic 'effort' without wasting a thread...



I think he's probably so happy because of the size of his baws. The massive bawbag.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:47, archived)
# Arf!
I love a nice Kanga-Roo burger!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:48, archived)
# ive had one
they are lush, deffinatlt the way forwards
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:49, archived)
# i tried something like that, but it went shit
but it went shit
he was supposed to be throwing his own poo or something
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:48, archived)
# Thats just the Lizard painted Brown!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:49, archived)
# Kangarooney puny poo knee?
His head is Scotland/Scotland is his head, and Wales his, er, front bit. Political!

maybe
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:52, archived)
# it only became a kangaroo through ineptitude
it started off as a monkey, working from the german term inselaffen (island monkeys) for english football fans. he was meant to embody the spirit of the modern lager lout
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:59, archived)
# I should clarify that by 'effort' I mean mine...
Mr. Pete's is clearly ace :o)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:50, archived)
# going to see this band in a few hours
so thought i'd post it!

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:43, archived)
# Elbow?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:44, archived)
# i don't mean to be rude...
but you're posting alot of things that don't quite make any sense
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:44, archived)
# ok
its mum. ze icelandic band.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:45, archived)
# i have that song and i also can't remember the name of the band
"my mum has gone to iceland"
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:45, archived)
# AT LEAST POST
SOME BILLIE THE VISION AND THE DANCERS IF YOURE GONNA DO A SCANDINAVIAN BAND!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:46, archived)
# IT HAS RELEVANCE!
im goin to see im later!!!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:48, archived)
# I dont care
The Afghan Whigs and Billie the Vision are the only good bands! FACT! TWICE!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:49, archived)
# well
pooeee to you too saquatch rhumatoid man!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:53, archived)
# I like the sound of your chairs
I was listening to them earlier
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:50, archived)
# YOU WERE?
chairs!!!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:54, archived)
# ok, it's been a long day, I'm tired and irritable...
Please go and read the FAQ. This site is about doing pictures and animations of your own. Shopped pictures mostly, although sometimes you can get away with a photo you took yourself.

Ideally they should be funny but if not, then beautifully done, perhaps with a bit of time and effort spent on them.

I know you're new, but just calm down, watch the board for a bit and then see how you go from there.

/tetchy but helpful advice blog
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:51, archived)
# ^This
Hai Mr Toast.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:01, archived)
# see thats what i was trying to say
Thank you MR Toast
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 19:08, archived)
[challenge entry] can you tell what it is yet?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:40, archived)
# Hot patootie?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:41, archived)
# The burning mouths?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:42, archived)
# hahaha
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:42, archived)
# Vaseline on toats?
Flaming Lips?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:42, archived)
# cor-rect!
:)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:03, archived)
# That was the reference before I edited.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 18:05, archived)
# hot
lips?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:42, archived)
# Silly SiX
Thats a character in M*A*S*H. Not a Band :)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:47, archived)
# the firey gums
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:44, archived)
[challenge entry] ahem.


Click for bigger (24KB)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:40, archived)
# Done last night
But woo :)

Funnily enough, it was done with that fella from PiL ;)
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:41, archived)
# dammit!
but spooky*, woo.

*it's not really very spooky.
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:43, archived)
# daft
punk?
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:41, archived)
# ding
ding!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:43, archived)
# Erm.....
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:40, archived)
# Ha ha ha!
I really like this!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:42, archived)
# only if you remove it from my house!
(, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 17:45, archived)

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