sorry it's reddit
edit: a more complete - non reddit - version is here thanks to horrid ("1:56 has the rear facing footage") www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGPrHj1nPt0
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 20:16, Reply)
1:56 has the rear facing footage
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 23:01, Reply)
the rider was australian, I've forgotten his name, but we sat in their garage on pit lane and saw all the prep and all the other teams doing their thing. In the first race he won, but flew off over the handlebars at the end of the straight in the next race, and he'd fucked his arm in some way. suddenly we were kicked out back to the great unwashed, I suspect because they were about to dope him up, as he competed in the final race, the tough bastard. Im not that into it, but they fucking fly when you see them up close, like they're sitting on rockets. the tv doesnt do it justice
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 0:20, Reply)
You should write a book called "Cumquat May and the fantasmigal adventures" or something
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 7:20, Reply)
In other words: Cool story, bro.
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 7:55, Reply)
though you still occasionally work up the courage to have another crack, but these days only if someone else does it first do you put your big girl pants and try to project your own inferiority complex onto me. you think it's one upmanship because to some jealous triggered shut-in like yourself, anything I do seems that way. good
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 12:16, Reply)
it's obviously an experienced b3tan, suddenly appearing a month ago but getting stuck into arguments right away
and
*has a pretentious literary username. a frustrated GSCE lit failure like yourself just couldn't resist it
*starts posting PC gone mad stuff that would get spectator readers in a tizzy like the vid below, which crucially, prufrock doesn't comment on. nobody else goes looking for that sort of stuff apart from the places prufrock haunts where they mock anything 'woke'
*uses prufock-like tired pretentious phrases like Quelle Surprise!
*prufock like amateur internet arguing like "no you're upset". you've even mimicked the basic format of a rejoinder I used against swagatha/prufock in the attempt above, but I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery to those without the wit to be original
*gets into an argument with me and loses. classic prufrock
*prufocks main account hasn't insulted me for a while, and I'd been making some conciliatory comments such that I was beginning to think he'd found some maturity and we could put his tedious obsession with me behind us. fat chance. Suddenly he's all triggered and yapping after I argue with swagatha
Yeah, the more I think about it the more I reckon I'm right. You can't avoid or hide being a cunt by just switching accounts, prufrock. Your personality will out. Ha
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 13:12, Reply)
I love the sock theory. It’s very funny that you think that Christie’s hackneyed whodunnits are literary. I’m more John Christie than Agatha Christie. I interpreted it as a footballers’ wives joke (Rooney/Vardy).
To be fair, I had a theory about brb being a sockcooker sock. I don’t think that’s true anymore though.
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 17:11, Reply)
Right, I'll tell you an anecdote! In 1975 I was catching the London train from Crewe station. It was very crowded, I found myself in a last-minute rush for the one remaining seat with a tall, good-looking man with collar-length hair, it was the seventies - buckaroo! When I sat down on the chair, I looked up and realised it was none other than Peter Purves! It was at the height of his Blue Peter fame! He said "You jammy bastard!" and quick as a flash, I replied, "Don't be blue, Peter!" Needless to say, I had the last laugh, now fuck off!
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 13:44, Reply)
Just have a punchup or have some sweatily delirious sex with him and get it over with. Nae cunt's impressed with the constant back and forth, no wonder /links has got its reputation with posters like you two having a spasticated dick swinging contest all over the shop.
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 13:58, Reply)
I have been trying to avoid triggering him, and if you look at our interactions over the last couple of months I've tried to say some nice things to him instead for all the good it's done .But I think I've inadvertently insulted his sockpuppet and now we're back to square one, if we ever went anywhere to begin with. I'll do my best to ignore his weird obsession and not respond to his abuse, not with the button which seems a cop out, more generally ignoring him. fair enough?
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 14:17, Reply)
Dunno why you don't just join in with /talk if you don't like it on /links very much, it's a relatively welcoming crowd as long as you don't take yourself seriously.
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 14:19, Reply)
I like most of the links people, just a few odd ones I don't get on with
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 14:25, Reply)
still, it's not as if B3ta is rollicking along like it used to that I'm somehow distracting from, there's few of us left and some dweebs contribute nothing but snark. If I didn't think it might be interesting or entertaining, to some at least, I wouldn't say it. Thats kind of the point I thought, putting up shit to amuse each other. And I'm no bullshitter for all my faults, if I tell a story it's true enough. it is lockdown here, so perhaps I'm posting noticeably more. apologies if I'm hurting your eyes
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 12:28, Reply)
- when I was a Scout, and when the score board was chalk and slate and analog clocks.
The noise was fucking intense. The smell was choking, especially for the classic races. The bikes were going past so fast you couldn't see the numbers.
We were a foot or so from the track, with a waist-high crash barrier between us death. You'd start this "volunteering" (it was close to mandatory) at about 9 years old. None of us were over 15.
Health and safety? Nah, child labour, tax haven laws and millions in tourist money .
I went back a few years ago: they give them ear plugs now and have a big perspex barrier between them and the bikes.
Still all crewed by kids though.
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 17:46, Reply)
The manx tt looked mental in that doco about guy martin
(, Thu 12 Aug 2021, 12:45, Reply)
Are you still upset at the introduction of the talkies and the demise of music hall?
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Disgusting modern filth, I calls it!
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 18:29, Reply)
Best TV show ever.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 15:01, Reply)
Adultswim shall rue the day they cancelled it!
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Absolutely tremendous TV! I've heard rumours that a feature length film has been commissioned, though that doesn't do much to make up for its cancellation.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 16:31, Reply)
it's on the Channel 4 player
www.channel4.com/programmes/the-venture-bros
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 14:04, Reply)
"This system supports songwriting process, whereby artists play musical instruments, while the system listens to the audio stream via a microphone and generates lyric lines in real time to match the music being played"
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Like that hipster girl who read out random shit from magazines live cos... ART.
I shall ART too!
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 22:59, Reply)
seems highly speculative, but interesting nonetheless
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 5:13, Reply)
have anything to do with so-called gender identity. Which they don't.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 9:20, Reply)
And, of course, an XXY male is - drumroll - male. So still binary. Because that's what sex is.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 9:41, Reply)
There is no "third" where one is neither make nor female.
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but anything else seems highly speculative, such as claims like "might have viewed them as non-binary". It's a rare find and probably signifies something about the period, but I don't think there's enough to build any reliable narrative in the absence of other evidence.
If I was taking a punt, I'd hazard that in those superstitious days in non-christian european societies, freakish people were often looked on as having something magical or spirit connected about them, and that might account for the high status position, rather than some sort of normalisation of transgender roles hitherto unevidenced. Although, there is observed anthropological evidence of acceptance of transgender roles in relatively more recent east siberian hunter gatherer societies, almost always taking a medicine man/woman type role, but a congolese pygmy is closer to finland than a chukchi reindeer herder as the crow flies. and speculation should never be more than a placeholder, as people often latch onto it when it suits their own wishful narrative
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 10:44, Reply)
"Transgender roles" implies that our (sexist) intuitions about what is "proper" to which sex - and "gender" is nothing but that - and therefore about what is "transgender" by dint of defying those intuitions are both normal and normative. But I'm not sure that there's evidence for normality, and there's no basis at all for their normativity.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 12:57, Reply)
But transgender roles as I've used it just means someone behaving as a trangender person does (i.e. dressing and acting like the opposite sex) I wouldn't read any more into it than that, unless you're trying make some other point.
I just remember years ago reading a book about some polish anthropologist still in the time of the czars, before their way of life was mostly wiped out, reporting on shamanism in the koryaks and chukchis and how male shaman dressed as woman and took on feminine behaviours (and even male partners if memory serves). She postulated that shamans might have been women in the past but men took over and adopted that gender behaviour, perhaps for it's traditional authority in their culture. It's a fair bit of different to some androgynous scot posting youtube vids, granted.
And I did say mine was speculation, I just think it's more likely than their take, which has a whiff of imposing modern values on quite a different time and culture
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 13:39, Reply)
Bogoras distinguishes various degrees of 'transformation' among the Chukchee:
1. The shaman, or the sick person at the bidding of a shaman, arranges and braids his hair like a woman.
2. The change of dress: Kimiqai, for instance, were woman's clothes by order of the spirits. In his youth he had been afflicted by in illness and had been greatly benefited by the change of dress. At the time described he was an elderly man with a beard, and had a wife and four children.[5]
3. The change in the habits of one sex is shown when the man 'throws away the rifle and the lance, the lasso of the reindeer herdman, and the harpoon of the seal-hunter, and takes to the needle and the skin-scraper '.[6] He learns the use of these quickly, because the 'spirits' help him all the time. Even his pronunciation changes from masculine to feminine. His body loses its masculine appearance, and he becomes shy.
4. In rare cases the 'soft man' begins to feel himself a woman; he seeks for a lover, and sometimes marries.
The marriage is performed with the usual rites, and the union is as durable as any other. The 'man' goes hunting and fishing, the 'woman' does domestic work. Bogoras thinks they cohabit modo Socratis, though they are sometimes said to have mistresses in secret and to produce children by them.[1] The wife does not, however, change her name, though the husband sometimes adds the name of his wife to his own.
Public opinion is always against them,[2] but as the transformed shamans are very dangerous, they are not opposed and no outward objections are raised. Each 'soft man' is supposed to have a special protector among the 'spirits', who is usually said to play the part of a supernatural husband, the 'kele-husband' of the 'transformed' one. This husband is supposed to be the real head of the family and to communicate his orders by means of his 'transformed' wife. The human husband, of course, has to execute these orders faithfully under fear of prompt punishment.[3]
www.sacred-texts.com/sha/sis/sis08.htm
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 16:00, Reply)
but the only thing google threw up was that same paper (which was pretty well cited of late, i'm assuming because it supports many current agendas) and b3ta links itself which is pretty fast indexing. So I reckon she meant to say platonic but it's just a typo, unless its some rare archaic term only used by 19th century polish anthropologists
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 3:45, Reply)
"The archaeological literature is full of men and women."
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bobbins.
Gender identity is what historians call an 'actor's category.' This means that it can only be said to exist if there is positive evidence that the people of the time and place concerned both believed it to exist, and discussed their lives in these terms. There's no indication whatsoever that there was even such thing as gender at this time, let alone non-binary identity.
Sex on the other hand is a physiological category, not a cultural one. My guess is that this female was good at killing with swords, and was recognised as such by their fellow killing-with-swords brethren.
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but it's probably as likely as their own speculation, and yours sounds way cooler
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 3:26, Reply)
and lots of people demonised, tortured and killed for behaviour outside of their established norms and values, and rarer cases of people celebrated for the same.
I mean that's just super obvious.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 17:02, Reply)
So you can have a gender identity without knowing it?
What is it, then?
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 17:15, Reply)
'That's just the way things are' is how you might think about things which, as it turns out later, just aren't.
Traditional gender roles existed even if they were not identified at the time. This should be super obvious to anyone with a passing interest in, say, language for example.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 17:44, Reply)
that in 20 years' time it'll turn out that you were a 'knob' all along?
More seriously, how do you know that social roles really were gendered - couldn't females just as easily have been thought in terms of 'property', with their clothing etc as signifiers of this?
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 18:00, Reply)
I'm not saying they were gendered; the verbing of that term implies some kind of structural entity imparting gender, a concept that would not be in fashion for centuries. I'm saying that there were norms, values and expectations made of people on the basis of their sex, and that those who did not fit those roles were called queer, and perhaps burned at the stake, drowned in a river, crushed with rocks, pulled apart by horses, or all of the above.
I think the roles existed because of the universal(?) depiction of men and women having separate roles, use of gender pronouns, the existence of feminine/masculine words, and from a passing knowledge of literature and history. The division of the sexes comes up in a lot of origin myths and legends, for example.
The culture we find ourselves in evolved, no one generation's culture is radically different from that of their grandparents, and I think that rule probably holds over most of our history.
Culture ultimately emerges from biology, so the culture of our pre-human ancestors probably didn't radically change much either.
If women were thought of as property, they must have first been thought of as women. Their designation as property comes from their sexual identity.
The concept of woman is culturally loaded for us, and it would have been for our ancestors. We can point to that and describe it in terms of gender. They did not have the benefit of human and civil rights, science, freedom from religion, and magical technology to let them do that.
tl;dr: other ape cultures have roles based on sex/gender, we've probably been the same for a billion years.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 19:20, Reply)
it has nothing to do with physiological sex. 'Pointing' to the past and saying 'it was gendered' is hugely unhelpful in that it naturalizes values that should be understood as fluid. What if it turns out gender is just a completely unhelpful way of perceiving the world? We'd have to go over the whole of history and start again. If you're interested in understandinng the past on its own terms, you will appreciate that projecting present-day values onto it is a ridiculous thing to do. It's a sign of ideological inflexibility.
Also, I personally think that culture emerges from the interaction of biology with technology. So there.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 20:38, Reply)
Physiology as it was understood then? Or as it's understood now? Surely it's unhelpful to project present day scientific norms, and it's better to accept that the world really was flat, epicycles were real, and that mice and flies spontaneously generated from inanimate matter. It's just ideological inflexibility to believe that physical, chemical and biological functions as we understand them today applied to people in the past. :eyeroll:
Yes, everything we think we know will be better explained later. We will always have to keep reappraising everything as more information comes in, just like we always have done.
Queer has your definition today, but as recently as a few decades ago it had a broader meaning. I'm using it in the broader sense to describe people who are ostracised or 'othered' for behaving outside of the norm. That's not limited to whatever equivalents of the LGBT+alphabet who were around at the time, it also includes women who thought they could do more in life than what their sex determined, and men who didn't belong in the roles assigned to them either, and of course people who we'd probably diagnose with all kinds of disorders today as well.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 21:40, Reply)
"the world really was flat" - to all intents and purposes, it was. Until long-distance navigation became a thing.
"epicycles were real" - again, they were actually real. The stars went around in little circles across the sky. Without the need to think of the world as a globe it made perfect sense.
"mice and flies spontaneously generated" - not quite. Flies, yes. If you looked very carefully, even the smallest pieces of food were full of worms.
I think you'll find that queer meant sexual deviant in the time you're referring to. Max Nordau is the reference point really. You have to realize that anything out of the ordinary was seen as a transgression of christian morality, not some kind of optional cultural novelty.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 22:20, Reply)
The universe does not care how you think it works. Physical, chemical and biological 'laws'* apply without regard to the ignorance of any observer. To a MUCH, much, much, much, much MUCH lesser extent, so too do anthropological and sociological 'laws'**, even if one is not inclined to accept what we have now as true sciences.
*Whatever they truly are; the absolute truth (which may forever elude human understanding), which is wise to assume exists.***
**As above, with the assumption that the absolute fullest understanding of the hard sciences would, by inference, reveal*** and, by scientific method, confirm the truest possible understanding of the soft sciences.
***Not in a fucking religious or spiritual way, obviously.
Oh and no, queer didn't mean that at the timeS I refer to. It meant, as I say, odd, strange, peculiar, abnormal. And you will accept that that is how I'm using the word, damn you.
:)
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 23:01, Reply)
or at least moral deviance. I admit the sexual element only really came to predominate in the early C20th. The point is that it wasn't a cultural choice then, it was a moral one.
The point I'm making is that any scientific vision that doesn't see itself a temporary stopgap until something better comes along is a bunch of hooey.*
*not that kind of hooey, you pervert.
(, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 3:15, Reply)
The word I chose includes sexually 'deviant' people, but is not limited to it.
One's sexuality is widely understood to not be a choice.
The scientific method incorporates your strangely redundant point about scientific vision.
We can't seem to agree on matters of fact, or even agree on a common lexicon, so this conversation is going nowhere!
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The skunk was startled, and sprayed its musk directly into Blood's eyes. As a result of this unfortunate incident, he suddenly acquired the ability to play the blues, and he became a faith healer.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 12:18, Reply)
although the 'Skunk juicing myself again blues' might be inspired
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 12:39, Reply)
something I never knew existed. Quite brilliant
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 1:24, Reply)
Can't believe I didn't post it here, but I think I was too excited trawling to see if I could find one to buy!
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 8:08, Reply)
I'd like this, far less complicated, solution
m.youtube.com/watch?v=aYUP4x0sL44
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 13:16, Reply)
There are two types of 'nonbinary' folk, in my opinion. Those who haven't yet fully figured out their own identity, and attention seekers. So there.
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 23:11, Reply)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtviM0T5J04
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if they say "Those who haven't yet fully figured out their own identity, and attention seekers" and this person *has* now fully figured out their own identity, logically that would mean they are an attention seeker.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 10:01, Reply)
so I guess everyone posting on the internet must be binary folk with fully figured out identities, who will never develop further, and will all die screaming for attention.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 15:14, Reply)
Some lonely arse seeks internet validation from strangers by posting something in which some lonely arse seeks internet validation from strangers.
Everyone feels better and it's back pats all round
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 13:05, Reply)
Even if the music was cheesier than a giant wotsit,
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 23:24, Reply)
Unrelated link:
Tower Bridge stuck open after technical failure
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58149716
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 17:16, Reply)
www.theviewfromtheshard.com/east-view/
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 18:18, Reply)
Which was a barebones flat screen with inbuilt processor, wifi and browser, probably linux for cost, that only offers a menu of hi-def webcam feeds. An alternative to a painting or wall picture. I mean people can do it on telly and computers, but something all packaged up and simple that you can give to grandma at christmas would have a bit of novelty about it
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(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 18:08, Reply)
It must have taken you ages to type out that image source.
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 20:34, Reply)
Hairy toilet areas grappling with each other.
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 22:46, Reply)
compare a map of your neighbourhood with 100 years before, a simple tool
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 14:32, Reply)
this
If that helps.
The original link/tweet in question is still pinned here on the developers profile
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 15:08, Reply)
It's given me loads of stuff to go and look at that I have only ever seen crumbled walls and ditches of. Thanks for this :)
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 15:20, Reply)
you can select different maps:
maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=5&lat=56.00000&lon=-4.00000&layers=1&right=ESRIWorld
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 16:56, Reply)
certainly a self-assured young hexadecimal whippersnapper
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That was quite well explained. I don’t give much of a fuck what other people wear or do with their front bottoms. Watched this video and thought ‘That’s nice. Good for you.’ And then I went and made some toast.
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 14:49, Reply)
Sell them cigs to fuck up their lungs then sell them the cure for fucked up lungs
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 3:01, Reply)
Both of them have said that most of the company's spare cash is going into non-smoking products, and diversifying the portfolio to get out of cigarettes.
Of course, all that spare cash is coming in from fag sales, but they can see an end to cigarettes as a viable business.
And let's face it, the tobacco giants have been trying to diversify since the cancer connection was first identified. When my dad worked for Rizla in the 70s and 80s, they were constantly trying to get other products off the ground.
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 6:53, Reply)
The firm indicated it would welcome a government ban on cigarettes and said "strong regulation" was needed to "help solve the problem of cigarette smoking once and for all".
Yeah, but you’re not exactly taking the initiative here are you?
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 7:24, Reply)
Fossil fuel companies trying to get into renewables, tobacco companies getting out of fags, slave traders getting into modern apprenticeships.
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 8:00, Reply)
and have been facilitating mass passenger transport for centuries, much of it wind powered
*Organisation of Slave Trading and Exporting Countries
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 15:16, Reply)
What I wanna know is how people get cleanly isolated audio for these things. Do they simply have access to the originally recorded studio material, or is there some kind of digital wizardry at work?
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 0:43, Reply)
Sounds 100% just like him... and if not that's a bewilderingly accurate impersonation.
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 13:38, Reply)
Either from an acapella or derived from subtracting the instrumental version from the original, or by simple DSP.
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 14:18, Reply)
But I imagine if you have one that makes it super easy. Anything else sounds like it must be hard, and involve painstaking time and effort to tweak. Surely no software can just do this almost automatically yet?
Well, however they do it, it's nice clean work and I'm impressed.
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 14:28, Reply)
When I used them they required a lot of tweaking as they couldn't tell the difference between instruments, and sounds with frequencies in common could be mistaken as one sound by the AI, making it very hard to edit.
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 16:41, Reply)
thanks to the comments, I now know: Wildtrack.
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 17:14, Reply)
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