your incomprehensible vertical use of an optical imaging unit to record something of a horizontal orientation.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 22:56, Reply)
It’s freaky, but it happened… Pulp Fiction John Travolta meets Carrie John Travolta.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:18, Reply)
Innit, Freddy
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Britain has come home from work after having a row with his boss, and kicked the dog.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:47, Reply)
YES the UK has a lot of Dunning Kruger going on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:39, Reply)
From that wiki article:
"Studies on the Dunning–Kruger effect tend to focus on American test subjects"
(, Sat 25 Jun 2016, 10:42, Reply)
a recent survey suggested that 52% of the population would be quite suitable for a job like that.
(, Sat 25 Jun 2016, 9:53, Reply)
Even down to the expression. She was also oddly flirty which to say I was 14/15 at the time seemed pretty inappropriate, she couldn't grasp the concept of mental illness at all, had to stop myself from grinning when she "sadly announced" she was moving to a different district. AND STOP TOUCHING MY LEG!!!!
(, Sat 25 Jun 2016, 16:48, Reply)
Video of a vote leave lady, the morning after the night before.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 14:13, Reply)
Makes me wonder how many have been voting off their trolleys.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 14:36, Reply)
Not sure how to feel today
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 14:49, Reply)
We could be in and out of the EU at the same time and until observed. So waking up today you would see reality according to the way you voted.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 14:56, Reply)
Well, there's a reason for that.
Has anyone told Prufrock to fuck off yet? I think he has me on mute.
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We have an elected political elite who know how the world works, yes. You don't directly ask people, the majority of whom are fucking idiots
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:18, Reply)
Plenty peeps I spoke to were voting Leave to keep the Syrians out even tho there are zero foreigns up here.
I'm guessing most people down south voted leave in the hope of making Britain great again like when we conquered all those crap countries.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:31, Reply)
Maybe if labour had addressed their concerns,pointed out where they were mistaken they would have voted differently.
Rather than leave it to the tories to make the case for remaining.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:39, Reply)
I had high hopes for Corbyn but the way he had explained his position on the EU was pitiful.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:11, Reply)
Wonder how all that new blood in the labour party that voted him in are going to respond?
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:32, Reply)
He's probably taken you off ignore, replied and then put you on ignore again.
That's what he does.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:34, Reply)
They might choose wrong.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:45, Reply)
I heard a woman say she was going to vote Yes because "they don't sell Irn Bru in England" and "the Westminster government gives people in London luncheon vouchers".
Fuck me. I haven't even heard the phrase "luncheon voucher" since 1976, and they DO sell sodding Irn Bru in England. Still tastes like fucking Tizer.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:17, Reply)
Point proved once again I believe. If you ask the masses a question they aren't in anyway qualified or educated enough to contemplate, you end up with them voting for the loudest, flashiest, most entertaining option, in lieu of a sensible outcome.
They've been trained by years of low brow phone-ins, opinion polls and voting for x-factor clones.
We've got what we deserve yet again.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 19:55, Reply)
and why I stopped bothering years ago. How can you compete with the numbers of total fuckwits out there? lol
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:18, Reply)
Or so I overheard whilst sucking hard, corporate cock.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:34, Reply)
we are not remaining. We also voted to not have conservatives, we do have conservatives. I fail to see how my vote matters in any way at this point.
Just makes me angry, so I don't bother with that shit any more, life is way better.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:51, Reply)
sure, if they are prepared to be informed, analyse the argument and vote with reason and research then yes, everyone should have the right to do that...
but if you are so disinterested in politics you want a bullet point summary of every issue, then no... you shouldn't fucking vote...
Just like I don't know anything about football, so I don't fucking talk about it, or try to do it... sure I have a right to... but we don't need to exercise every single one of our rights as a matter of course.
being politically literate takes time and it's really boring, if you ain't willing to put the hours in, fine... but then don't get involved and leave it to those who do want to take it seriously.
Christ it's like someone who doesn't cook standing behind a chef and telling them what ingredients should be going in... you have a right to that opinion but you've done fuck all to earn having that opinion heard...
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:53, Reply)
Genuine question here.
What method do you use in order to determine who is eligible to vote?
Age?
Education?
Gender?
Public service?
Parentage?
Very interested in how people here think the vote should be restricted.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:09, Reply)
In a vote like this some are always going to use it to kick the government and the polls seem to always get it wrong, so, a dry run maybe to set a benchmark? Regardless the line should have been higher, maybe 60% before any change. I also thought they should have had a "don't Know" on the ballot. For a GE I think it should be compulsory to vote which I think they do in OZ?
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:20, Reply)
If it's full of 'Criminal Case' spam, shares of Britain First memes and fucking terrible vocabulary, then turn them the fuck away.
Might seem a bit snobby, but generally these sort of fuckwits are the least well informed and easiest to mislead.
Oh, and don't allow people over the age of 60 to vote. They don't have long enough left to reap the benefits or suffer the consequences.
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Older citizens are less important because they have less time left, and generally end up being a strain on the economy.
The less well formally educated are also *generally* a bit thick anyway.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:38, Reply)
Allowing people over 60 not to vote seems harsh. Many these days will have to work to some degree into their 70s/80s to make up for trashed pensions and to pay off their 40 year mortgage or rent
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:44, Reply)
I think jobless and long term sick is around 5 million? Retired many more? That is a sizable chunk of the population.
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i'm not talking about a policy or a license to vote, i'm talking a cultural thing... we need to stop telling people "they must vote at all costs" and instead say "you don't have to vote if you don't want to take an interest, that's fine"
EDIT: to clarify i don't think the vote should be restricted, but instead we need to stop telling people they have to vote, it should be a right you choose to excersise because you have a passion or an interest, not because you have been culturally and socially bullied into it,
mainstream politics does this to "soak up" those votes and continually distort democracy, every election I hear "people died for your right to vote" and it drives me mad, people died for our right to be able to vote you know as a choice ... but there's an expectation of intellectual responsibility that goes with that....
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a cultural thing... totally something that ultimately WE need to realise.
I have a right to an opinion, but only an informed opinion has the right to be heard.
If we are honest with ourselves we know that turning on the tv is not recieving an informed opinion... that's lazy... and we know that in so many aspects of our lives that we actually give a shit about...
if you don't give a shit about politics, you don't have to vote...
I mean soon we'll be letting the Vegans choose the food for a BBQ... where does it end!
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:39, Reply)
The MP is given the vote for their entire constituency. On the run up to the referendum the constituency are able to make their cases to their MP, who in turn makes the final decision as their elected representative.
Your local MP might be a fucking idiot, but tough shit. The majority of your constituency voted them in.
Local MP's (hopefully) will have a much better grasp of the matter in hand than your average Daily Mail reading, Jeremy Kyle consuming fuckwit and so the chances of the 'right' decision being put through are higher than letting the entire population of the local council estate loose on the ballot stations when their primary source of current affairs is the Britain First facebook page because "The news is well boring, innit?"
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:35, Reply)
but doesn't work well with party politics. Suppose the government put forward a bill to ban, say, red paint, and my area had the largest red paint factory in the country employing hundreds. My MP though, is a member of that government, and boy, do they want a Cabinet post. Represent the people and commit career suicide or toe the party line?
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:15, Reply)
Many people have no idea of what candidates' views are, much less caring enough to find out instead of just voting for whichever candidate their party of choice is fielding.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 19:05, Reply)
by holding them accountable for any lies they spin or promises they can't back up, with serious penalties
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:43, Reply)
subject to the same regulations as normal ads would be a nice start... an ASA for political ads through an independent fact checking body like fullfact.org
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:50, Reply)
loves getting wound up about shit they know nothing about. There were no reasonable and fact based stuff out there, just people picking a side and sticking with it. All based on shitty tabloid bull.
This is just how life is, and always will be.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:12, Reply)
is exactly why this is how it will always be
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:53, Reply)
In my democracy I would have been able to click three times, at lest.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 23:21, Reply)
Why don't we reward politicians based on outcome?
If they keep to referendum promises and deliver them - bonus
If they keep the economy balanced - bonus
If they reduce poverty and increase permanent employment - bonus
You get the picture. Motivate to do positive change, to keep thing improving, not just ticking over or getting worse.
We also need to disassociate government from lobbying, treat it as corruption.
(, Sat 25 Jun 2016, 11:30, Reply)
by those who have deemed themselves far more competent and superior to the knuckle dragging racists who voted out.
Fact is the In campaign was a shambles of threats and scare stories. Nothing positive about Europe or a positive future in it. Having Cameron and Osborne as the two prominent faces of the In campaign was a disaster as well as so many just wanted to give them a bloody nose. There should have been a neutral but respected face to lead the remain campaign and I don't mean David Beckham.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:54, Reply)
It's all very ironic that there seems to be this attitude all over the Internet at the moment
by those who have deemed themselves far more competent and superior to the knuckle dragging racists who voted out.
I don't think it's that, I think it's that it's annoyance that people turned on the tv, and made such a complex decision as if they where watching big brother...
I have yet to find someone on the leave side who has truly done their research, and yet to find one that doesn't at some point spout a soundbite which has been proved to be inaccurate.
this was a battle fought with hearts when it should have been fought with minds.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:08, Reply)
of the benefits of staying, then whose fault is that?
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:16, Reply)
we know that misinformation is what will tried to be sown, so OUR responsibility is to pursue unbiased information, fucking hell, in the referendum all you had to do was google "completely independent EU advice" and you got fullfact.org... that's the bare fucking minimum effort, and most people just couldn't be bothered with it...
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:29, Reply)
know fuck all about the things they vote about. They get it presented in a bulletpoint list, prepared by whatever lobby/pressuregroup that have access to them.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:03, Reply)
i was talking about the general public in a referendum situation.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:09, Reply)
I thought the phrase "leave it to those who do want to take it seriously" was refering to politicians. I realise now I was wrong.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:18, Reply)
see resolution... and we did it all without either of us calling the other a cunt.
it's almost like a rational discussion can be had an a mutual agreement made!
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:31, Reply)
And they get as good whipping if they do not toe the line. Many enjoy this though
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 20:17, Reply)
more cooks than needed.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JibxHpXqAfc
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:07, Reply)
They just didn't bother to vote. Although 75% of people under 30 voted remain, too many just couldn't be arsed to vote, even with the extra two days to register.
So if you want to blame someone, don't bother pointing the finger at leavers, have a word with your mates who wanted to remain but didn't bother voting. They lost it, leave didn't win it.
Now of course they are demanding a new referendum. Doesn't work that way, sunshine, you had a chance and you blew it.
With thanks from those of us who did bother.
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Mg3Si4O10(OH)2 doesn't look very flammable to me.
Flour or custard powder on the other hand can be.
Edit: I was right, Johnson's Baby Powder contains corn starch as its first ingredient:
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 14:23, Reply)
Try blowing cocoa powder at a flame. TRY IT
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 14:29, Reply)
dust explosion
As kids we used to collect sachets of coffee whitener from cafes and pour them over a naked flame. I suppose today's kids are watching interracial cream pies instead.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 14:39, Reply)
Luckily you had your sunbed goggles on
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A petition for one who enjoys sour grapes and lost causes.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 13:35, Reply)
Bit late now.
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I suppose it could be an effort to keep the Scots in, maybe.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 13:56, Reply)
Christ. Everyone is full of gloom this morning.
Have a vintage BBC thriller/Sci-fi production. Proper scared me as a child.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:48, Reply)
However did that make you turn into one of those many raging naked drunk barbarians rampaging through the one street of your village staring endlessly at the mosquito-repellent toaster out the window of robert dyas whilst fondling an imaginary erection through their trousers pocket?? Just wondering.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:06, Reply)
Rural area overwhelmingly voted 'out' now concerned that it's gonna be fucked without annual EU subsidy. That they just overwhelmingly voted to decline.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:23, Reply)
Basically the country has woken up with a massive "Grate Birtain" tattoo on its face
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:30, Reply)
On a serious note I would expect the council to ask the government what their plans are. Hopefully not having to pay our membership dues will more than cover current funding plus the rebuilding of our fishing fleet will help get the Cornish off handouts.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:53, Reply)
Sounds like just the sort of thing the tories would do
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA............I'm assuming that didn't even manage to type that without pissing yourself laughing.
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56.5% isn't exactly "overwhelmingly". I'd wager this is the other 43.5% shitting their pants like the rest of us.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 13:02, Reply)
Voted leave but didn't think "leave" would win, now regret voting leave.
twitter.com/MetroUK/status/746272529875034114
www.itv.com/news/update/2016-06-24/leave-voter-disappointed-and-wishes-to-vote-remain/
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 14:42, Reply)
Where do they think the subsidies came from?
The money you no longer have to contribute to the EU can now be spend directly, without the rest of the EU creaming it off.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 16:24, Reply)
The leave side dismissed the rebuttals about their 350million a week figure regarding EU investment by saying, basically, "yeah but we don't get to choose what we spend that money on so nerrrrrr"
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 18:00, Reply)
Here's a simplified metyfour thing.
You give me £18 to be part of the club.
I say "nah mate, knock a fiver off that because you keep moaning about the cost"
Then I spend £4.50 on a prezzie I think you'll like.
The remaining £8.50 I spend on club maintance and some of the poorer members.
Some will say the club costs £8.50 and some will say £13 because they would rather had vouchers and bought their own prezzie.
Now times those numbers by a billion.
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Random thought for the day.
#didntvote
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:44, Reply)
Which for today is fucking amazing. 50 points to you sir/madam.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:06, Reply)
and it is essentially the same thing that is happening in the United States."
insightful, in a Miss South Carolina 2007 kind of way
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:31, Reply)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPXEdJ_Gtx0
Still makes more sense than Trump though.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:43, Reply)
i'm avoiding everyone and everything today./
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:31, Reply)
Really...Unbelievable
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quelle surprise
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 7:12, Reply)
(At least in public)
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A majority of you have shown yourselves to be absolute idiots, it's sad.
Still, at least everyone will now have jobs, houses and can be racist again (so they think).
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 8:51, Reply)
oh fuck
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 8:59, Reply)
That £350 million pounds a week* which we currently send to the EU will go to the NHS instead.
* A figure consistently debunked by the head of the UK Statistics Authority
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so they were right about it in the first place.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:24, Reply)
how it felt to be an American that didn't vote for Bush.
Some sort of combination of embarrassment/shame/doom.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:15, Reply)
that this kind of sneering, arrogant message is what lost the remain vote?
I actually shut down Twitter and Facebook for this reason, the bien-pensant "don't these ghastly people understand how wrong they are" attitude was so misguided and truly offensive.
I despair of this country when so many people look down their noses at others for not having the same opinion, casting them as racists, bigots and ignorant.
How about trying to bring people on side with a positive message and inclusive reasons? How about listening to them without lecturing and haranguing them?
This should have been a easy win for Remain and they fucked it up royally.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:05, Reply)
Do you think some people posting on B3ta may have lost Remain the vote by voicing opinions on here?
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it's an echo chamber of liberal opinions.
The problem is that those liberal voices become very illiberal if someone disagrees. I see in the replies to my post we have comments about bigots, racists and Daily Mail readers who are too stupid to vote.
So much for democracy, votes are only for people whose opinions we approve of. If that's not bigotry, then what is?
Time to look into the mirror and realise that it was arrogant, narrow minded attitudes towards the voter that lost it.
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What's the point in having people on ignore if you're going to do that?
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:05, Reply)
"Time to look into the mirror and realise that it was arrogant, narrow minded attitudes towards the voter that lost it."
And the Leave campaign really approached their targeted voters with the utmost respect for their intelligence and knowledge, not playing up to, fostering and exploiting narrow minded attitudes at all.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:38, Reply)
it was up to the remain team to put forward a constructive, positive message to win. Not "if you don't vote remain, we'll punish you with a bastard budget"
A case study in how to turn a forgone victory into defeat. Waste all your time attacking the alternate viewpoints rather than taking to voter with you.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 15:52, Reply)
It does matter what Leave did, they played up to inherent fear and prejudices and told people what they wanted to hear. A constructive, positive message by Remain would only appeal to the people who were already set on remaining, it wasn't about constructive argument or anything else, it was about who could shout the loudest and shout what people wanted to hear.
Remain should have taken a different approach but rationality isn't what people wanted to hear, they couldn't be arsed with economics or anything else, they wanted everything to be simplified and translated as 'all these problems were because of Europe and Johnny Foreigner coming over here etc.'
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"rationality isn't what people wanted to hear, they couldn't be arsed with economics or anything else, they wanted everything to be simplified and translated as 'all these problems were because of Europe and Johnny Foreigner coming over here etc.'"
Nice broad brush stroke there, how many voters did you interview before you formed this denigrating opinion?
The majority of voters really, really craved information and advice on which way to vote. Instead they were fed horseshit from both sides and had to guess what to do.
It's a complete failure of politics to inform and advise. It's symptomatic of the disconnect between politicans and who they represent. Blaming the voters by categorising them as simpletons and bigots is why they stuck two fingers up at the elites, both in the UK and Brussels.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 17:23, Reply)
I didn't interview any voters, i didn't have to.
I spend most of my time in the north and to say there isn't a huge blame game with 'foreigners' being responsible for people being unemployed etc. Is to not see the wood for the trees, especially in outer parts of Greater Manchester.
To pretend that people don't have the attitude that it's other's to blame for their own situations is being a bit naive, they were fed horse shit as that's what it was deemed they wanted to be fed, and it worked.
Leave got it right.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 18:05, Reply)
'Brown people are great, yeah, and we dont gun down your representatives'
Fucking hell
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:43, Reply)
Why it's good to be in the EU, what great things will happen in the future. What are the benefits to each individual - you know, all the good stuff that we get from being a member.
Go negative and the reaction is always bad.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:54, Reply)
Was that message not coming through?
What do you say to people who are willing to vote down a recession upon themselves?
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:08, Reply)
lower pound, exports more attractive. But the truth is no-one knows what will happen next. Even George Soros who creates choas to make money got it wrong, although he probably had a pretty good hedge running.
I was convinced that we would remain, or if it was a narrow leave vote that we would be persuaded to stay. I still think that is possible, but it won't help if we carry on insulting our neighbours for not voting the same way we did.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 13:11, Reply)
Exports not more attractive if you cant get them as easily into the market place.
All going exactly as the Remain camp claimed it would so far
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 13:21, Reply)
Its people making money on the markets, they ran exit polls and bet big on this. Everyone expected a drop on a leave vote, you have to wait a while to see where things end up once the spivs have lined their pockets.
Any trade barriers put up will hurt the EU far worse than the UK. Also, we export mostly outside the EU, so noting has changed there. A lot goes through EU ports and looks like EU exports, but it ends up elsewhere.
I would wait and see before claiming the world is collapsing
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 13:27, Reply)
Phew!!! I will certainly be waiting and seeing with the greatest of interest. Bated breath here.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 13:33, Reply)
I work in France for a large French organisation and live in the UK, so I have a very strong interest in what happens next. I also did a lot of checking before the vote and spoke with lawyers.
By the way, the French are even more eurosceptic than the UK. If there wasn't a Brexit, I would have anticipated one of the other EU countries voting to leave. There is a lot of discontent throughout the EU with how Brussels has handled recent crises.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 13:40, Reply)
I didnt speak to any lawyers but I did have the massed ranks of the world's politicans, economists, historians, constitutional experts, and business people lining up on telly every night for a month telling me it was a bad idea. Nobel prize winners, the lot
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 14:03, Reply)
For years any problem with the UK has been blamed by politicians and the media on the EU, from NHS waiting lists to wage stagnation. The positives of EU membership is schrodingers cat...without doing over 40 years without the EU any positive can be seen by opponents as irrelevant.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:10, Reply)
but the truth is, a lot of people (on both sides) are stupid, short-sighted, and ignorant. That's just the reality of things and there's not much point trying to deny it
What proportion of the British population do you think are actually smart, well-informed, and rational-minded enough that you'd genuinely value their opinion on a subject as important as this?
I reckon less than 10%.
(I count myself as part of the other 90%, by the way)
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:57, Reply)
there are a lot of racists. Have a look at the DM comments section and the stuff that gets upvoted
https://twitter.com/DMReporter/status/745964921440116736
"wiping these smelly, trouble-making immigrants off the face of the earth" and you've got people piling in to approve.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:04, Reply)
Massive investment in education system is only way. Scrap tuition fees, school building program, properly funded, none of that PFI bullshit. Will take generations. Does seem unlikely to happen soon
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:19, Reply)
The things that would make us a better society are things that will only be done by people our current society isn't going to vote for.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:34, Reply)
"People are too stupid to be allowed to vote. If they can't vote the right way then they shouldn't be allowed to vote at all."
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:09, Reply)
"If people are too stupid to vote, they shouldn't be allowed to vote."
I'm thinking of the hordes of mindless cockweasels that read the gutter press and vote accordingly. And old people who are clearly away with the fairies. "Grandma knows best." No she doesn't, she's always letting dodgy roofers in.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:26, Reply)
You? Does democracy now depend on who you approve of?
British people are on the whole very decent. We don't have race riots, we all get along pretty well in the main. We get to spout opinions on B3ta and do stupid pictures making fun of our political leaders. Our legal system is 100% better than that in the EU, innocent until proven guilty and all that. There are a lot, lot worse places to live.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:58, Reply)
That's the problem. Whether you live in Tunbridge Wells or Merthyr Tydfil it's highly unlikely you have a grasp of the true implications of remaining or leaving. Hence the vote was decided on the front pages of the tabloids; hence it's bullshit.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:10, Reply)
It was far too complex to predict what would happen next, for every downside there is an upside. Pound goes down, our exports are more competitive, but French wine and BMWs cost more. We don't pay into the EU, but instead have to pay for more bureaucrats in Whitehall to replace the ones in Brussels.
Either way it was a voyage into the unknown, so asking the question was pointless and painful. It's set half the population against the other just to avoid losing votes to UKIP.
We have representative democracy so that our MPs decide on things like this. Cameron was a fool for calling it and now he has paid the price.
Of course MPs can ignore the referendum, and that is a potential outcome. No-one on the leave side seems keen to pull the trigger yet, so it may be that more concessions come our way, then we stay in. We shall see, it's not over yet.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:30, Reply)
Exporters certainly dont seem to think they will
Imports certainly will cost more so the cost of living will rise which will fuck the poor who voted for all this hardest. Well done everyone
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:39, Reply)
Also, the terms can't be worse than WTO rules, which were not far off EU tariffs.
My guess is not much will change.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 13:13, Reply)
with a Tory party only 25% of the population voted for. There are shades of democracy and us...with a Queen...a House of Lords don't have what many people think we have, we don't have a referendum on every law. There is an expectation that we elect people to make certain decisions for us...you know because they are meant to know what to do and read up on all the dull facts.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:21, Reply)
Democracy in the UK is shit, so the result is invalid?
Or would you say "in your face Farage, loser! Democracy prevails!"
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:33, Reply)
I just mean it is all democracy, democracy, democracy but once you drill down it is all about boarder controls, foreigners, harking back to a past that never really existed and some mong wanting to get their blue passport back.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:43, Reply)
and would have been quite happy if it never happened even if they won it
In fact I think most of the remainers would have been shitting themselves even if they had won, seeing how close they came to the idiots taking over.
"congratulations you won with 52% of the vote. Now enjoy your life in a country where nearly half the population hates your guts."
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:56, Reply)
But just squeaking in over the line like this… too many people are too thick to understand the consequences of their actions.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 13:21, Reply)
...sneered at...is an idiot.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:01, Reply)
...people really do believe what these people say...like a greasy used car salesman.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:46, Reply)
welcome to US style trump politics… get the thickos out who normally don’t vote, and get them riled up with an argument based in nationalism and emotion… the death of information… all of our elections will now be fought on “who can shout the loudest” and the “honey pot” for politicians is going to be “the thick, the disenfranchised and intellectually lazy”
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:52, Reply)

(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:10, Reply)
Now that the UK is about to leave the EU, there is no longer any reason to have an UK independence party, is there?
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:29, Reply)
Time will tell if Labour can reconnect with their traditional voters.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:34, Reply)
Echo!
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:21, Reply)
Echo!
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:21, Reply)
"massive nazi wankers party" and continue their real agenda.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:26, Reply)
He never should have been asked that question anyway, as it's not his place to give a committed answer?
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:50, Reply)
Another tale of cops and rubbers.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 5:05, Reply)
10 hours on one fight scene would tick me off as well.
(, Fri 24 Jun 2016, 4:52, Reply)
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