So slut walk.
What's your opinion on it, are you going to join in?
Is this modern feminism?
(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:31, 293 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

You people know nothing of politics.
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2000598/Slut-walks-crude-betrayal-women.html
(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:33, Reply)

The writer looks like Jimmy Krankie

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:40, Reply)

It's an idiotic name for an important point

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:36, Reply)

Yeah slut-walk is SUCH an idiotic name isn't it, NakedApe The Merciless.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:38, Reply)

Yes it is, PyschoCHOMP

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:39, Reply)

this is true
their point is valid and the name is stupid and detracts from it
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:41, Reply)

Modern feminism appears to involve women rubbing their genitals on shiny metal poles.
Apparently that's empowering. I'm an old school feminist and have the shoes to prove it.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:36, Reply)

Are you calling kitty and apple gender traitors?

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:37, Reply)

if the high-heeled stripper shoe fits...

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:40, Reply)

We should all wear dungarees.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:43, Reply)

Yes every girl who chooses to dance as a form of exercise is a stripper.
Nice generalisation there.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:50, Reply)

don't you have to have some clothes on to start with to be a stripper?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:54, Reply)

I'm wearing three layers at the moment
it's cold and Wiggy won't let me put the heating on.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:01, Reply)

if he gave you the beating you deserve you'd be warm

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:02, Reply)

he slapped me about a bit last night but the searing heat has worn off
I might make a hot water bottle.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:08, Reply)

There's an interesting mind-over-matter trick to keeping warm
You don't have to wear loads of layers, you can even do it in just your PJs. This guy could teach you a thing or two.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:12, Reply)

I don't think he used his mind

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:18, Reply)

Is this like one of those hypnotise yourself thin things?

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:23, Reply)

The weightloss with this method is much more rapid and noticeable
Plus it stays off.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:31, Reply)

Haha, I don't think it's fair to say that all if Kity's clothes are skanky.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:37, Reply)

oh no he's right,
My skirts are SHORT
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:45, Reply)

It's not just dancing though Kitty
and to say otherwise is desperately naive. It's a form of dance developed purely to be sexually provocative to men. The fact that it's good exercise and hard to do doesn't change that.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:54, Reply)

I thought it started out as a circus skill.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:56, Reply)

Yes and yoyo's started out as a deadly weapon
so giving yoyo's to a child is BAD PARENTING
(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:58, Reply)

It depends on how you dance though.
salsa dancing can get pretty filthy but I don't judge women who do that. Women dance pretty provocatively on Saturday nights in clubs without a pole in sight and no one complains about that. I'm fully aware of the stigma that surrounds pole dancing but I'm just saying that that's not all it has to be.

I don't do it in front of men, I don't do it for men and I don't wear a thong whilst doing it. Plus if you'd seen me dancing you might change your mind about how sexy it is.

And once again you're calling me naive. Pack it in.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:59, Reply)

You post it on facebook though, you deserve to be fraped.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:04, Reply)

I still don't think the pictures are sexy though, to me it's like being photographed in the gym
but that's just how I see it, narrow minded people just see a pole and think "whore". My holiday photos are much more revealing, I'm sure you'll agree having looked through them all in fine detail.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:12, Reply)

Not yet!

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:13, Reply)

I certainly agree

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:17, Reply)

I think there's a burn in there somewhere but I'm not sure where

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:24, Reply)

keep looking

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:29, Reply)

No, it must be true, I read it in the Daily Mail.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:55, Reply)

damn immigrant strippers taking my job

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:01, Reply)

Hurr hurr
Pole dancers.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:06, Reply)

The irony of feminism is it seems to have gone full circle
It stared with "we are about more than sex" and now has become "sex is our most potent weapon lets use it to our advantage"

Something in the middle might have been best
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:38, Reply)

This sort of thing is a pendulum
It always swings back too far the other way before it reaches an equilibrium.

And regardless of whether they're men or women, there'll always be some dickheads who completely miss the point of the cause for which they think they are campaigning.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:41, Reply)

It's not though, you're missing the point
the reason it started was that a policeman said that the reason you get raped is because you are dressed provocatively. Which is not the case, you get raped because some utter cunt is a rapist.

This paragraph sums it up "Let’s be clear: rape can never be excused. Never. Yet I defy anyone to look at a group of teenage girls out on the town on a Saturday night, tottering drunkenly through the streets in micro-dresses designed to show as much thigh and fake-tanned cleavage as possible, and not feel a tremor of foreboding about how their night might end."

She says in the first line that rape can't be excused, and then goes on to say, but actually it's not surprising they get raped if they choose to look like hookers.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:56, Reply)

this is the truth "you get raped because some utter cunt is a rapist."

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:58, Reply)

although it's true that I'm probably less likely to get raped when I'm wearing 17 layers and a duffle coat
mostly because the rapist gets bored after layer seven. Rapists don't like pass the parcel.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:04, Reply)

But do you put a small lollypop or Fruit Salad between each layer?
Something tells me you do.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:07, Reply)

there's a layer of icing and crumbs
but that's just accidental from the snacking
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:08, Reply)

I hate your face.

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:13, Reply)

you hate that you love it so much

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:16, Reply)

I was watching regular ordinary swedish mealtime last night, the guy reminds me of you.

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:25, Reply)

hehe
I promised to start cooking like that didn't I?

hasn't happened yet
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:29, Reply)

I watched one yesterday where he props the bowl up sideways on the counter
and places a carton of milk in front of it, then smashes his fist down onto the carton. About 3mls goes in the bowl, the remainder on the walls.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:46, Reply)

I think I've seen that.
I might make a tribute video before I demolish my kitchen to make way for a new one.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:48, Reply)

I like this.
Don't forget the pre dinner mayonnaise! It's good for you. God that guy makes me hawt.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:55, Reply)

you should go on a slut walk dressed like that holding a sign saying "Rapists don't like pass the parcel"
it is your duty to society
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:07, Reply)

I might wrap myself up entirely in newspaper
and hold a sign that says "rape this you bastards"
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:13, Reply)

That would make "She was asking for it" a fairly good defense

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:15, Reply)

bit freudian there

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:16, Reply)

Well spotted

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:18, Reply)

WHAT HAPPENED I MISSED IT

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:25, Reply)

I don't know anything about it
I'll read your link and then answer your question.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:39, Reply)

A police officer in Canada said "don't dress like sluts and you wont get raped"
To protest the idea that the victim is in some way resposible for rape and to raise awareness about that, women are marching some are dressing deliberatly provocativly.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:41, Reply)

I think the point the copper was trying to make is that
if you're wearing a gusset-brushing skirt with a top tugged down to nipple level, you're more likely to become a target for a prowler than if you're dressed more conservatively.

Which is a valid point, but too easily misinterpreted as "if you dress sluttily, you deserve what you get".
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:44, Reply)

missinterpreted or very very badly articulated by the copper

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:45, Reply)

You'd have to pick your words pretty carefully, yes.
Emotive subject, innit.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:46, Reply)

I don't know if I agree
I bet there's some study somewhere that proves that most raped woman weren't dressing sluttily when attacked.

Until just a few years ago, a man in Spain could be discharged of rape if the woman he attacked was wearing tight jeans, as she was calling for sex with her clothes. I think it's about time men start learning to control themselves.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:48, Reply)

Women are every bit as capable of being as sexually aggressive as a male.
"it's time men learned to control themselves", is edging towards sexism.

The rest of your post I don't have a problem with
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:53, Reply)

You sound like Jeremy Clarkson
when the levels of sexual violence are spilt equally between male and female victims, then yes, you will have a point. But at this stage you don't.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:58, Reply)

Sexual aggression doesn't necessarily mean sexual violence.
Like I said, I don't disagree with most of her post. What I disagree with is her assessment that men need to learn to control themselves. I'm perfectly capable of controlling myself, thanks very much.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:01, Reply)

Yes, you are, but clearly a lot of men aren't
or there wouldn't be a problem in the first place would there. She's not saying the problem with men is that Kroney is incapable of controlling himself.

And saying that women are just as capable of being sexually aggressive is like saying that every single person is just as capable of committing murder. Or course they are capable, but they don't actually do it.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:03, Reply)

I agree
Women have to learn to control themselves too, but we're talking about rape and women dressing slutty. I haven't said anything about men dressing properly or not, so I'm not mentioning women behaving properly either.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:02, Reply)

Read it, now
I used to dress like a slut a lot. Of course, I didn't do it because I thought it was sophisticated, but because I wanted to attract a guy and have sex. The problem is that although I wanted to attract 1 guy in particular, this dresses would usually attract a lot of other not so nice guys.

Now, our way to deal with it was to never be on our own, and if one of us was off to have sex with a guy we didn't know much, we'd fix a time and a place and the rest would pick the lucky one to make sure she was ok. And we'd never let a friend go with a guy if she was drunk.

So, women should dress as they want, but knowing that they're taking a risk and act in consequence, and men should learn to control themselves. In any case, many wome have been raped when wearing non-slutty clothes, so there you are. If a man is crazy enough to have violent sex with an unwilling woman, he won't be stopped for what she's wearing.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:46, Reply)

that article confirms what I thought about mumsnet
self-important, smug idiots.

I'm gonna sign up.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:40, Reply)

Mumsnet is the best of the mama forums.
They're educated, shun text speak, can spell, and are opinionated. It's much like here but with fewer paedo jokes.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:42, Reply)

They make me sick
they use DH and DD for "darling daughter" and "darling husband"
they're worse than /links.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:42, Reply)

Best of a bad bunch.
All the other baby sites say things like "my lil bubs" instead of "my child".
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:44, Reply)

Mumsnet is brilliant, every new mother should join it
It gives them an outlet to talk about their precious little fucktrophy and thus hopefully stop them talking to me about their kids.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:46, Reply)

IF YOU HAD CHILDREN YOU'D UNDERSTAAAAAND
Speaking as a mother.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:48, Reply)

Speaking as a mother *shudder*

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:53, Reply)

they sound like busy-body cunts
as a source of advice for mums I'm sure it is good, but that doesn't mean they are right about everything.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:43, Reply)

Did you mean that to sound as patronising as it did?

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:43, Reply)

not at all
I meant it. Forums are ideal for passing on knowledge like that.

when it is based on experience, having a wide base to draw on is the best thing, particularly when everyone is a bit different.

But as successful as it is, they shouldn't take on the role of moral guardians
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:44, Reply)

What have you learnt from this place?

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:44, Reply)

to take things less seriously
that I'm not as clever as I think I am
other stuff
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:46, Reply)

I've learned about goatse and tubgirl.
You can't just get that anywhere you know.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:47, Reply)

This thread has taught me you're a lesbian.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:47, Reply)

You mean Sexface didn't tell you she was?

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:48, Reply)

*polishes MTFU badge*

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:49, Reply)

Are you suggesting that mumsnet isn't in fact chock full to the rafters
with people who think that, because they've managed to squeeze a sprog out, their opinion is somehow worth more than other peoples'?
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:45, Reply)

Not entirely.
Plenty of people just talking inane non-child drivel. Much like on here.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:50, Reply)

I maintain that the worst thing about the internet is that it has made ordinary people think
that anyone gives a shit about what they have to say.

in fact, the same goes for celebrities too.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:51, Reply)

I no, rite?
I wrote all about it on my blog, you should check it out.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:52, Reply)

as long as you follow my twitter feed

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:53, Reply)

You are still on Myspace for god's sake!

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:53, Reply)

the band is, because that is what was expected
it's not like I use it for social networking.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:55, Reply)

STALKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:55, Reply)

you and the mole on your left buttock have no idea...

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:58, Reply)

I would join in it.
if there was one held in Geelong.
(Poppet some assembly required., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:42, Reply)

It's every saturday night there, isn't it?

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:44, Reply)

no.
just I think it's not the victim's fault, and that women should be able to dress how they want without being afraid of being put in that position.
(Poppet some assembly required., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:46, Reply)

If one of them got raped along the way, would that define brutal irony?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:44, Reply)

Oh yeah, ha ha ha, that'll be hilarious.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:46, Reply)

I think you meant to say "that'D be hilarious"
Now we're all wondering which march you're planning to hit
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:48, Reply)

*reinier wolfcastle*

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:49, Reply)

UP AND AT THEM

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:56, Reply)

like it

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:01, Reply)

At no point did I say it would be funny, I said it would be ironic
irony doesn't always have to be funny, if you like i can explain it to you more fully.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:50, Reply)

Are you planning to do anything?
What are you doing on Sat?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:49, Reply)

Baby stuff; putting up shelves, buying expensive things etc etc

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:50, Reply)

Oh
I thought you'd be planning an "irony rape"
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:04, Reply)

It's about reclaiming the word 'slut', isn't it?
female empowerment and all that. I can't honestly say I feel massively strongly about it one way or another; the idea of a slutwalk tickles me though, so I'd probably go along if my friends were.

In other news, I did not get the job. Today will mostly be spent sulking.

EDIT - ah, the slutwalk isn't what I thought it was. No, I believe that you should be able to wear what the hell you like without fear of getting jumped on. No means no, no matter how provocative you're dressed.
(berk, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:47, Reply)

commiserations
something else will come along etc.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:49, Reply)

Sorry to hear that, i suggest MOAR cayke

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:49, Reply)

Sorry to hear that, you poor slut

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:49, Reply)

I'd go to one for sure
Sorry to hear about the job :(
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:49, Reply)

Me too
they were very complimentary with their feedback, but that almost makes it worse.
(berk, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:57, Reply)

Oh man, you were Friendzoned from a job interview

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:08, Reply)

This made me laugh
but that's not a sign I'm enjoying Berk's pain.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:16, Reply)

It's alright, I laughed too

(berk, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:31, Reply)

Did they have the word 'slut' in the first place?
I think it's just claiming it.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:50, Reply)

Sorry about the job
I hope you get more lucky next time.

And I agree about women wearing what they want. If a goth is attacked for wearing black clothes, everybody's shocked and ask why that happened and why people can't be more open minded, but if a girl is dressing provocatively, then, well, she's looking for it, isn't she?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:51, Reply)

If an Emo got slashed in a mugging would you say they were asking for it?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:52, Reply)

Yes

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:55, Reply)

Of course not
That's the same here. We are just giving an excuse to the attackers. People should be able to wear what they want and be as they want without fearing for it.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:55, Reply)

But that's not how the real world works though

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:57, Reply)

And there is no point in ever trying to change peoples opinions.

(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:00, Reply)

I'm glad you are finally talking sense

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:01, Reply)

I can't be arsed persuading the estate kids that gofficks are there to be loved and appreciated just as they themselves are loved and appreciated in their own home environments and amongst their peers
Perhaps you can lecture them at school and down the rec in your spare time
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:09, Reply)

Well we know you can't be arsed to do anything
which is why you spend all your time trying to make yourself look superior on an internet forum which revels in childish humour.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:12, Reply)

lol upset

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:18, Reply)

Now accuse me of being angry.

(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:20, Reply)

lolol more upset

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:21, Reply)

Perhaps
we should go back to proper decend dressing and covering from top to bottom to avoid men feeling unconfortable, as it's impossible to educate society.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:16, Reply)

It's about having some common sense and awareness of where you are, people get killed for wearing the wrong football top
It's all part of human nature and tribalism.
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:21, Reply)

Yes
But it was worse 500 years ago, we have improved, why can't we improve further?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:26, Reply)

Has humanity really improved in the past 500 years?
Adolf Hitlers European tour 1939 - 1945, Soviet Russia, and Communist China, Pol Pots Cambodia, Afghanistan under the Taliban and any number of other examples suggests otherwise.
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:31, Reply)

Yeah
the wars before were a lot better than the recent wars, eh? And before people used to complain for their goverments to start a war nobody wanted too. Yeah, yeah. And rape between a married couple was always considered rape; child abuse was always punishable; equality standards have always been the same...

And glad you mention the Taliban and such, as they live as we used to live more than 500 years ago, and haven't evolved a bit.

You and I studied different history; are you sure you're from Earth?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:34, Reply)

I was paying attention that's all

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:43, Reply)

Well
You didn't do very well. Sorry to tell you.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:49, Reply)

That's why they're complaining
I'm glad you're getting it.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:07, Reply)

Actually i was joking on this point!

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:57, Reply)

I was hoping so
I'm glad you were.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:04, Reply)

Interestingly
Female jurors are more likely to decide that "the girl was asking for it by dressing provocatively" then male jurors.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:56, Reply)

Really?
I wouldn't be surprised, I suppose, we can be very bitchy with ourselves. I think putting other females down makes us believe we'll have more males to choose from. Or maybe it's just jealousy.

I'm quite glad I grown up as I did. Some people now said I was a slut, but gladly, that's not the way me and my friends (or people in Tenerife, really) saw it. I wish it was the same every where. A healthy and varied sexual life is very rewarding.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:07, Reply)

Yeah I've heard about this at ex-work as well
women are horrible to each other.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:17, Reply)

The biggest threat to the 'Sisterhood' is other women
And sharks.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:19, Reply)

stop messing with my shark fear
It's a genuine concern!
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:27, Reply)

The problem with this issue is that
If a women dresses provocatively, gets so drunk that she is out of control and leads men on all night for a laugh, she is more likely to get into trouble. I would say this is a fact.

However when this argument is made, people scream that it's no excuse for a man to rape a woman; this is also true, however that is not what was being presented in the first point, the womans actions are not an excuse but they may be a contributiung factor.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:48, Reply)

As I said above
Would you say the same about a goth being attacked. He's contributing to the attack by wearing black, isn't he? If he wanted to be treated with respect and being ignored by crazy youngsters, he should be wearing "normal" clothes. He brought it to himself.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:53, Reply)

I am not saying he brought it on himself, the sorry fact is
if you are dressed in a provocative manner, "slut, goth, psy-trance robot" you will attract more attention from un accepting neandethals.

That doesn't make the way someone dresses wrong, it is simply the sad truth.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:56, Reply)

But that's not a reason to criticise trying to do something about it.
In fact, by criticising it on those grounds, you are actually saying that they are bringing it on themselves and are to blame.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:05, Reply)

I agree
but agree with Al below too. You should be able to dress as you want, but be sensible and know that you're taking a risk, and therefore, protect yourselve. As I said above, I'd never be on my own or leave a friend on her own if we were dressed for party. No way.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:09, Reply)

I don't know, I don't think it's the attire
it's the situation. Rapes are usually opportunistic and the woman is more likely to be vulnerable when walking home by herself, drunk, at 3am. Those are the factors that make her more likely to be raped, that she's wearing an easy-access dress and no pants is just icing on the rapecake.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:30, Reply)

Exactly
I don't think any rapist gets stopped by a trousser.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:36, Reply)

Exactly this.
It's perfectly right to say that even if you dress in a provactive way you do not deserve to be raped. I think we can all agree with that. However, dressing in a certain way will attract attention - some of it unwanted - and this can and will inevitably on occasion lead to trouble.

There is no justification for rape - at all. However, trying to claim the moral high ground by saying 'we should be able to dress as we want' isn't going to stop women being raped.

Your average rapist isn't at home, thumbing through The Guardian saying "Hmm, they do have a point. I'll no longer select my victims according to how they're dressed."
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:58, Reply)

Should we women
be back to the burka, then?

I don't know how much you've read, but in the XVI century a woman would be a slut for showing her ankles (not her chest, though) and was calling for rape if she did it.

Things change, people can be educated, and no one should act with fear and hide what they are to avoid problems.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:11, Reply)

"It's perfectly right to say that even if you dress in a provactive way you do not deserve to be raped. I think we can all agree with that."
I don't think I can make myself any clearer than that, can I?

However, the object of the entire operation appears to be to change the minds of rapists, who by definition, don't really give a flying fuck about what anyone thinks.

The protest is all very noble, but I can't see it achieving anything.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:23, Reply)

And I repeat
things were worse 500 years ago when women had to be covered completelly, and showing an ankle would be a call for rape. We have improved, why can't we improve some more?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:28, Reply)

Women didn't show their ankles well into the 1900s.
So basically not much changed for 400 years.

Again, I shall repeat, how are you going to change the attitude of rapists?
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:36, Reply)

More in my favour
Things have changed a lot in the last 100 years, then.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:37, Reply)

I see.
So by Christmas it'll be acceptable for everyone to wander about in the buff.

Well, that's progress.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:49, Reply)

Sorry to break the news
In some places, it's been acceptable for a while now. Maybe you should read the newspapers.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:50, Reply)

haha that's true,
it's not like the rapists are going to see the women's noble protest and decide to change their ways.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:30, Reply)

Exactly my point.

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:33, Reply)

The protest is not for the rapists
is for educated people who still thinks it's the woman's fault for wearing slutty dresses.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:36, Reply)

oh yeah that's true
I still don't think them getting their ya yas out is going to do much though. Most people will probably tune in to see some ass.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:48, Reply)

I think we're on the same page here.

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:50, Reply)

As all the beach volley fans.

(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:51, Reply)

that's why I watch Top Gun

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:56, Reply)

and DOA ha!

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:56, Reply)

Hahaha!
Seven Years in Tibet works for me!
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:57, Reply)

I'm guessing your average rapist isn't a stranger out prowling for a vulnerable victim.
He's more likely a husband or a boyfriend or a date who won't take no for an answer.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:16, Reply)

Exactly
And they don't care how you're dressed, they just go for it.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:18, Reply)

So what exactly is the point of the walk in the first place?

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:26, Reply)

Complaing about people
telling women that if they dress slutty they'll be raped.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:28, Reply)

Nah they're just all out on the pull.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:29, Reply)

Is it going to stop anyone being raped?

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:37, Reply)

I don't think so
but it could stop that "you deserve it" thought on society when a rape happens.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:38, Reply)

I don't think anyone in their right mind would say "well you deserved it" to a rape victim
However dressing in a certain way can be a contributing factor. To not see that would be naive.

However, I shall repeat, that does not justify rape.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:53, Reply)

A rapist
is moved by the occassion, as Kitty said. I've dressed as a slut many times and never been raped, as I was never on my own. Many women walking on their own and wearing thick winter clothes have been raped though.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:59, Reply)

I think dressing up like a slut is tacky
When I see people dressed as sluts I'm less likely to rape them.
( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:49, Reply)

it shows a certain lack of sophistication that is true

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:51, Reply)

Yes
But it usually helps you to get the guy you're interested in.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:53, Reply)

depends on the guy

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:55, Reply)

Never failed me

(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:11, Reply)

haha this is excellent

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:17, Reply)

Not if the guy was someone like me
Much as I think No means no etc I still think dressing like a slut is nothing to be proud of.
( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:56, Reply)

I agree.

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:59, Reply)

It depends on how slutty
and how you act. You have to know the guy you're going for, but I've been with different types of guys, and the right dress showing the right bits would always work.

Of course, I wouldn't be showing my nipples to someone like you, but I'd be dressing very sexy and provocative, although a bit more covered.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:13, Reply)

I suspect that wouldn't work as well as talking to him and demonstrating that you have a brain
a sense of humour and a personality.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:14, Reply)

She could try showing me her nipples if she likes though
Just saying
( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:18, Reply)

Don't know if you'd like them now
They're getting very ugly.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:19, Reply)

Hey a peeks a peek!

( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:32, Reply)

Yep, ok
but usually, to make a start, the other person needs to find you phisically attractive, at least a little bit, and the right choice of clothes helps.

Having said that, I've pulled wearing dirty track suits, so maybe I've got it all wrong...
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:20, Reply)

Phwoar! Now a good old dirty trackie get me going!

( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:33, Reply)

You see?
Only have to choose the right clothes :)
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:39, Reply)

I see your point
But I don't think rapists tend to be the sort of chap who prefers the indefinable allure of the high-necked top
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:59, Reply)

True
But I cannot deny that when I see someone dressed as a slut I instantly feel superior to them and look down on them from my massive pedestal.
( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:03, Reply)

I can understand that
Although it does depend on cup size
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:05, Reply)

Rapists
are rapists, and go for it in any case. Again, I bet more women dressing "properly" have been raped than women dressing slutty.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:14, Reply)

There a women in Afganistan being raped and they wear a tent so I think yeah! if you want to dress like that, go ahead.
But I frown on prick teasing women who dress like that to lead guys on for no other purpose than sport. There has always been provocative dressing in history, hell!, men used to go batty at the sight of an ankle ffs.

And calling it a slut walk it wrong. It implies women all dress like that because they are sexually wanton.

And modern feminism is about having the right to make choices, even if they are the wrong ones.
( girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:56, Reply)

Women are being raped in Afghanistan because Afghanistan is full of fucking mentalists

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 10:59, Reply)

Therefore
as you say, the problem is in the attacker. They want us to believe that we're calling on it, and it's part our fault for dressing as we want.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:15, Reply)

And there's nowt wrong with being sexually wanton.
You can be sexually wanton in sensible shoes too.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:00, Reply)

This!

( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:01, Reply)

Yes the two are seperate issues.
I'm all about the sexually wanton, as you know, but there are different kinds of sexually wanton. Women who use sex as a weapon and those that just like fucking.
( girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:01, Reply)

Ha, women don't like sex.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:05, Reply)

Not with you maybe.

( girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:06, Reply)

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:08, Reply)

There, there.

( girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:13, Reply)

That's a fantastic answer!

(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:21, Reply)

Our local club
Was full of sluts who just walked around kissing as many guys as they could to see who got the highest total. They were happy to grope them on the dance floor but as soon as they groped back they were crying rape.
( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:01, Reply)

I had the profound misfortune to walk into a club which was holding an Ann Summers night.
Drunk women can be every bit as sexually aggressive and boorish as drunk men.

It's not an exaggeration to say that I had to actively fight my way back out.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say that with an equal societal objectification of men as sex objects in the same way that women have been in the past, and given equal physical strength, I think rape cases would be much more equal than they are.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:07, Reply)

Worse in a lot of cases.

( girlinthehole, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:10, Reply)

Argument by annecdote is the best type of argument.

(Bazongaloid, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:10, Reply)

I'm not arguing.

( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:14, Reply)

This is true
An acquaintance of my wife was having her hen night in a club we happened to be in and they had a male stripper. The bride to be started sucking him off. I remember thinking the husband to be wouldn't want to marry her anymore if he knew. Next day she put pictures of herself doing it on her facebook! Some people deserve each other I guess.
( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:14, Reply)

wtf
that shit always baffles me.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:15, Reply)

I was hosting a hen party a couple of weekends ago
and they had a naked waiter there. I couldn't look him in the eye. He had a nice bum though. OBJECTIFICATION!
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:19, Reply)

friend of mine had specifically said she didn't want anything of that sort at her hen do
and her best friends got one anyway. Really spoilt things. The dumb bitches.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:21, Reply)

yeah this whole party was a surprise for her, she nearly fainted when I said she was going to be learning pole dancing
I think she thought I was going to strip, but on the feedback form at the end she wrote that she really enjoyed it, it wasn't at all as she'd expected and she had a lot of fun. The naked waiter was also really gay.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:33, Reply)

I specifically told my mates I didn't want any of that shit
So they took me paintballing and then got me wasted. Brilliant time!
( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:34, Reply)

I've told most of my mates that I can't stand the ritual humiliation shit
and most agree. I'll be fucking put out if they try anything.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:36, Reply)

I've said that
No veils, no L plates, no cock straws. I plan to go to Vegas in a cocktail dress.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:49, Reply)

OVER RULED!
Oh, thought this was Phoenix Wright.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:24, Reply)

OBJECTION
I love his hair.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:32, Reply)

Crazy world
She was fat too. Nothing puts you off your pint like watching a sweaty fat slut suck off a stripper.
( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:20, Reply)

It has reminded me of an incident in a club some years ago
where my mate and I noticed a girl giving a guy the most frantic handjob ever. It was hilarious.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:23, Reply)

I saw a girl sandwiched between two guys, one had his hand down her knickers
and the other and both his up her top. She looked like she was having a great time.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:24, Reply)

There's a photo from a club I used to go to
on one of those 'faces in places' sites and there's a girl sat with her legs apart and a guy with his hand right up there, I lolled.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:34, Reply)

Or the queue starting to form behind him.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:00, Reply)

Really?
WOW! That's a lot more slutty than I was! Maybe they had an agreement and the groom to be was allowed to play with his stripper too.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:23, Reply)

men don't mind being raped though

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:18, Reply)

You're probably not being serious
but that is an attitude that really fucking winds me up.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:20, Reply)

How do you rape a man, anyway?

(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:24, Reply)

Woman and Man in bed together
She wants sex, he says No. Next morning, he wakes up to find her riding his morning wood. That would be rape.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:27, Reply)

Never thought of that
but I bet next morning, when she's riding him, he's more than happy about it. He probably said no because he was tired, anyway. Otherwise, why would the be sleeping together?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:30, Reply)

So he loves it really, eh?
I've heard that exact terminology used in man on woman rape.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:31, Reply)

There's some caselaw on 4 feminists who raped someone they perceived to be a chauvenist (think Chompy)
they tied him up and stuffed a bottle up his arse for a for a few hours.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:36, Reply)

I think under that sort of threat
I would consider suspending my "never hit a woman" rule.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:38, Reply)

Yeah I think that's what we would call extenuating circumstances

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:39, Reply)

Wait, were they fit?
Oh, you said "feminists", ignore my question.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:40, Reply)

I saw that on an eppisode of Law'n'Order.... true story.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:46, Reply)

Shut your whore mouth

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:50, Reply)

Apple said to me the other day "shut your mouth before I fuck it"
It shocked me into silence
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:57, Reply)

"Shut that cunt's mouth before I come over there and fuckstart her head!"
One of my favourite lines from a film.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:00, Reply)

that's excellent
what's it from?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:03, Reply)

Way of the Gun
A thoroughly brilliant film, well worth your time. It's in my Top 10.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:11, Reply)

I'll check it out

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:15, Reply)

I've slept in a bed with females I would not want to fuck
If I woke up to one of them riding me I'd be very fucking angry.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:37, Reply)

LOOK I SAID I WAS SORRY

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:39, Reply)

Ha! In your dreams!

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:42, Reply)

You're not funny.

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:49, Reply)

Well, you make me feel bad now
but sometimes I've been told that he was too tired to start, and in the morning I've woken him up with a "good morning bj" and there was never a complain. Did I do it wrong? Should I stop it?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:41, Reply)

it depends on the circumstances
if he told you he was too tired then fine, but if he just said no, without a reason, and you started anyway without first getting permission then you could be in trouble.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:42, Reply)

But then
you're killing the surprise! (I'm just joking there)
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:45, Reply)

:-)
I'd be happy enough, but there are situations where that isn't always the case.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:47, Reply)

I know
I think I got it right every time, as I've got no complains!

To be honest, sometimes I've been told no because we were friends and the guy didn't want to break the friendship, but after a bit of talking and touching he'd change his mind, and the frienships are still there!
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:53, Reply)

rape doesn't usually involve much in the way of talking
edit: actually, it might, I've never been on either end of a rape
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:54, Reply)

'either end' made me laugh
I'm a bit ashamed.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:58, Reply)

I think you're right
I don't know much about it either.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:00, Reply)

If he was genuine about being too tired, then no you did nothing wrong
If he said "Thanks, but I want us to just be friends" then that's different.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:43, Reply)

Well, I've got that too
and he only needed a bit of convincing, really. And after that, he'd want to repeat.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:46, Reply)

if you're already in a relationship then it's not rape it's surprise sex
and I can't ever see Wiggy accusing me of raping him.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:50, Reply)

Agreed!

(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:52, Reply)

only because you are too ugly to give him wood

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:53, Reply)

he said this to me yesterday
I'm sure you two are in cahoots.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:58, Reply)

we have to be
we're setting up a timeshare
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:59, Reply)

Chain him to a radiator and forcefeed him Viagra, not let him out for several days
Unfortunately, that happened.
(Edit: possibly. Trying to find a reliable newssource)
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:48, Reply)

how is Crow?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:49, Reply)

Unraped and unsecured to his tree.
Is just pretty busy with work and stuff.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:53, Reply)

busy with work?
for shame!

how are you?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:53, Reply)

I know, I've not seen him since Saturday :(((
I'm ok, slowly recovering from exhausting myself, just need to look for a flat and a job. Urgh. How long to go on your secondment?
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:59, Reply)

only 3 weeks left!
the final two weeks I've got a guaranteed non-shit car as well which is nice.

What sort of job and flat are you looking for?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:02, Reply)

That's not too bad, I'm sure everything will seem better
then you have September to look forward to

1. 2 bed, SE London, not more than 135£ pppw
2. Anthing that will give me money, as I have none.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:06, Reply)

yeah, it's going ok
work is alright at the moment actually, other than the boredom today.

man, London is expensive.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:07, Reply)

me, trolling?

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:37, Reply)

I know. As if!

( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:56, Reply)

Say that to people in prison

( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:21, Reply)

Problem with raping men
is that the man, somehow, has to want to make it work, you know?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:22, Reply)

Apart from anal rape of course
What you really mean is "The problem with raping men is that you're raping MEN and they're all ugly and smell, women are far hotter so it makes more sense to rape them up."
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:24, Reply)

Hahaha
Maybe...

But for a woman to anal rape a man doesn't really give much sexual pleasure, unless she's into dominatrix stuff.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:25, Reply)

Rape's mostly about power, not pleasure.

( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:26, Reply)

Maybe
that's why there are more male rapists than female
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:30, Reply)

Like I said, I think if sexual objectification had been more historically equal
and if physical strength were more equal, so would the statistics.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:32, Reply)

I've got pretty strong now (thanks to my super slutty dancing)
Maybe I'll put my raping hat on.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:37, Reply)

Who said rape has to be about the rapist taking physical pleasure in it?
Some might just get off on the humiliation and degradation.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:26, Reply)

Ok
I don't quite get it. I suppose it doesn't make any sense to me to get any rewarding feeling from someone feeling bad.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:31, Reply)

Me either
That is why neither you nor I are rapists.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:32, Reply)

Thanks for the explanation
I feel much better now.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:41, Reply)

Because you're not a sadist

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:33, Reply)

As I said to Kroney

(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:41, Reply)

I went to an Afghani strip club.
It was full of blokes chanting 'show us 'yer face!'
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:17, Reply)

Yes, I am
And I've already picked out my outfit.

NSFAAE
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:05, Reply)

:(((((

( broadsword, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:26, Reply)

I'd prefer Slut Wars
with boobieguns
( broadsword, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:25, Reply)

I just got a newletter from a supplier
and on the back it says "Slag makes earth move"
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:32, Reply)

Can we have a new thread please?

( Peej, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:07, Reply)

Done.
But you can do it yourself too.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:10, Reply)