

(Makes a change from reposting the Virgin Trains one)

the secret of spunky island, its part of my evil character the ghost pirate LeFuck
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Yeah..sorry about that...messed up :(
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Clicky 'modify profile', and be amazed!
*yays!*
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*yays!*

on your first post?
Ahahahaha. Congratulations!
Oh, and RIS?
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Ahahahaha. Congratulations!
Oh, and RIS?

(you have to get up late in the morning to get up earlier than old ZW!)
`
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dead link without redex!
*cries*
*stops crying, blinks*
yay for world domonation
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*cries*
*stops crying, blinks*
yay for world domonation

a Honda Legend, tan leather interior PLEASE. old model legend, pref...
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But it'd be lovely.
My first car was a honda legend.
how i loved it.
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My first car was a honda legend.
how i loved it.

we can't view videos at work :(
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loved the the first time round too.
is the music from a partiucular film or is it a generic score? if its generic, where did you get it?
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is the music from a partiucular film or is it a generic score? if its generic, where did you get it?

its a nice track, fits really well with your anim
edit: make this into a game, monkey island meets fate of atlantis
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edit: make this into a game, monkey island meets fate of atlantis


She's all of teh phwoar
![Challenge Entry: If The World Was Fluffy [challenge entry]](/images/board_posticon_c.gif)

A few more months on the pills and George would have his own WMD's

to have a plugin for Photoshop 7 that would fill an area with a fur effect... I've looked for fur searching on Google, but can't find what I'm looking for.. Does anyone know of what I'm prattling on about, and can they help?
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6 was probably it...
So, can you ask fuck, or doessn't he know?
:D
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So, can you ask fuck, or doessn't he know?
:D

Thank you very much indeedy...
It was [Alien Skin] Eye Candy 5: Textures
And, I'm sure I've still got it...
.. me wonders if it'll work with CS?
/ponders, and buggers around with cds and backups, and crap
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It was [Alien Skin] Eye Candy 5: Textures
And, I'm sure I've still got it...
.. me wonders if it'll work with CS?
/ponders, and buggers around with cds and backups, and crap

you're not going to kill or fuck it after you've eaten it, are you?
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See the splendour of THE WORLD'S BIGGEST PANTS!!!
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is NOT tasteless....
EDIT: I'd go Pant Trekking if I could afford it.
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EDIT: I'd go Pant Trekking if I could afford it.

unblocked as I phoned up the user help desk and said OI!
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and indeed, why not?
I am liking this competition..
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I am liking this competition..

Why am I still up? Drugs, that's why. Somebody put me to bed.
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pack them all up and send them to me. They shalln't bother you again.
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I like the way everyone reverts to eyes and lips/teeth.. Soooooo, I've bothered your worm:

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'Tis a frosty morning here (6:25)

Clicky for biggerer
EDIT: Now it am all sunneh (7:13)

Clicky for biggerer
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Clicky for biggerer
EDIT: Now it am all sunneh (7:13)

Clicky for biggerer

you hadn't checked?
If you haven't checked... please note that I can't be held responsible for you nobbing about on a dodgy roof trying to grab-a-hold of a £50'000'000.00 note!
And, as much as I'd like to help you grab it, if it is, my arms aren't long enough to reach down the telephone wires to wherever you are...
sorry!
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If you haven't checked... please note that I can't be held responsible for you nobbing about on a dodgy roof trying to grab-a-hold of a £50'000'000.00 note!
And, as much as I'd like to help you grab it, if it is, my arms aren't long enough to reach down the telephone wires to wherever you are...
sorry!

We have thick snow up here in wales, and i just got a day off because of it! Off sledging soon ... woo ...
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When it's so lovely and sunny in Surrey...
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It makes it umm... flow better and translates the Vogonity of the disaster that is about to befall us with it's mighty wings spread and its beak of sudden disaster causing... err... disaster among us all despite us not really wanting it to and pleading for it to just fuck off.
It doesn't seem as dangerous as lawn darts.
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It doesn't seem as dangerous as lawn darts.

I must be happy after that waffle... I laughed more than I wanted to.
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Whoa. Scarey.
Edit: I may have misread this. You said traffic. So, they're more concerned with content versus volume? Scarey-er.
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Edit: I may have misread this. You said traffic. So, they're more concerned with content versus volume? Scarey-er.

but compared to most workplaces I have an awful lot of freedom. It only raises eyebrows when the total cost gets over a certain amount..
and my traffic lately has, naturally, been obscene.
I'm just glad they're not asking about specific content, 'cos then I'd really be up against it!
This month I will mostly be browsing with images, sound, and video files turned off. : )
edit: no, not particularly scary. Relatively, I get away with blue murder.

on bandwidth.
I've got a friend who's trying to get into downloading TV shows via bittorrents. He gets 10gb/mo u/d max, then has to start paying through the nose.
That'd last me about 3 days.
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I've got a friend who's trying to get into downloading TV shows via bittorrents. He gets 10gb/mo u/d max, then has to start paying through the nose.
That'd last me about 3 days.

Bandwidth is so cheap! Ick, ick, ick!
I'm in America, and my cable provider (Time Warner) gives me a 5 Mb download rate with no fees on usage. I realize it may be different elsewhere, but the bandwidth thing seems a bit extreme.
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I'm in America, and my cable provider (Time Warner) gives me a 5 Mb download rate with no fees on usage. I realize it may be different elsewhere, but the bandwidth thing seems a bit extreme.

I've got (in theory) infinite traffic - and I give that a run for it's money every month :)
New Zealand is *really* archaic on that though. I've been told it's due to the telecom monopoly down there.

That's what we get for privatising the infrastructure in the '80s, and allowing a corporate monopoly in.
I was just looking for a relevant article, since they may be dragged through the courts.
Basically, broadband over here, isn't.
However, I'm hooked into the national backbone here at work, ho ho!
This is probably the main reason I don't have a home PC, since the World Wide Wait would be frustrating as all get out.

fees on bandwith useage?
never heard of it before
we just pay our monthly cost and they leave us to use our 8mb as we damn well please...
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never heard of it before
we just pay our monthly cost and they leave us to use our 8mb as we damn well please...

I had a phone call from the IT manager (quite a senior guy) the other day,asking me how I'd managed to go to over 700 blocked sites in the last month.
I told him (in so many words) it was because I had nothing better to do and needed to sit at my desk to keep an eye on everyone.
Long story short, I'm looking at a promotion now. Office space taught me everything I know.
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I told him (in so many words) it was because I had nothing better to do and needed to sit at my desk to keep an eye on everyone.
Long story short, I'm looking at a promotion now. Office space taught me everything I know.

www.linguasphere.org/dictionary/n-78607-wallah.html
I are librarian

you were online trying to research more efficient bookwallahing techniques, obviously. Why else would you use the internet at work? I'm convinced it's actually increased your productivity, perhaps by as much as 28.7%
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Disasterous moments in history #1...

EDIT: Now with added eyebrow!
And with that, I'm off to bed. Night.
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EDIT: Now with added eyebrow!
And with that, I'm off to bed. Night.

THE EYEBROW.
Yay
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Yay

i am a bit cac at this stuff and wanna find out how to do scrolly background thingies a la www.bluetuliproseread.com/alex/bellamyzombie.gif and similar. The blurry background stuff that makes something look like it's whizzing by at a great rate of wotsits.
You know the kinda thing.
All tutorials welcome.
*edit* - i know i know.. but i asked on the talkboard and they said try here :p
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You know the kinda thing.
All tutorials welcome.
*edit* - i know i know.. but i asked on the talkboard and they said try here :p

Basically, you want to make your background a bit bigger than the image, and for each frame contract it so it loops nicely and lines up properly.
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That's probably the quickest and smoothest way of doing something like that*
*bearing in mind you've removed your brain and figured out Flash.

by doing a tween between one background and another, adding a motion blur, and then putting the contents in each frame. It could save a person's sanity by not using Flash.
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all i know is photoshop & imageready and i don't know those too well obviously, let alone using flash.
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Flash is probably the most counter-intuative bitch out there too. And I've met some real bitches in my time :)

I've still not gotten my head around it. Some of it makes sense, but I suspect I'm often doing it the hard way.
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I even got into some action scripting. I just never found it to be intuitive.
If you thought you were doing things the hard way, you were probably on the right lines.
There are a few tricks you can use to simplify things, such as animations within animations within animations, to stop you from building one huge animation at once. It doesn't get much better than that though.

and maybe it's the way I'm using it, but I'd assumed you could make an animation and then transform that animation across the screen. I've yet to find a way to do it.

Something like the above seems ideal for Flash. One pedal rotation and a transform seems like the obvious way, but it either doesn't work like that or I'm doing it wrong.
*doesn't admit to that being about 80 frames in Paintshop from back in the 'olden days'*
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Something like the above seems ideal for Flash. One pedal rotation and a transform seems like the obvious way, but it either doesn't work like that or I'm doing it wrong.
*doesn't admit to that being about 80 frames in Paintshop from back in the 'olden days'*

You set the animation in motion (such as your bike pedaling) and then you just need to set two keyframes and tween. You can have it flowing along a path too. Tweening is a bit of a bitch to get used to at first.
The tutorials really walk you through jumping through all of Flashes hoops though.

i found motion blur but that's about it
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The effect you've linked to is actually pretty tough to achieve. It was probably either made in Flash, or in photoshop CS2, which allows you to set a vanishing point (even so, it would be very work-intensive in photoshop since you'd have to make a new image for every frame that recedes, as you can't animate scaling). My advice is either to use Flash, or to opt for a simpler effect to start with, such as a looping moving background. There are lots of tutorials for those online.
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is pretty much what i'm after.. horizontal scrolly wotsit will work for now - the front to back scrolly wotsits can wait.
As much as i would love to run before i can walk :)
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As much as i would love to run before i can walk :)

I'm finding it difficult to locate a tutorial right now so hold on and I'll put some instructions together...
Let's assume you want to make a horizonally scrolling looped background animation which travels from right to left:
1) Make sure the scrolling background is about two times wider than the visible image size
2) Put the background onto the bottom layer - from now on we'll call it BG
3) Cut BG down the middle vertically and swap the left and right sections around, so that what was formerly the left and right edges are now touching each other in the middle of the layer
4) Using the clone tool and merging details from the left and right sections, fix the seam in the center. It doesn't have to be perfect
5) Now copy and paste BG onto a new layer, and move the copy so that the left edge of copy is lined up with the right edge of BG
6) Merge the layers onto BG
7) You now have the option of applying some motion blur to BG. It usually helps a lot
Go to ImageReady if you're not already there
8) Now pull BG so that the right edge is at the right edge of the visible image
9) Make a new frame, and pull BG to the right until exactly the same area is visible in the image
10) Now tween frame 1 to frame 2 - just experiment with the number of frames and the frame speed until it's smooth
11) Throw the last frame away - it will be a copy of the first frame, so you don't need it
12) There's your scrolling looped background :)
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Let's assume you want to make a horizonally scrolling looped background animation which travels from right to left:
1) Make sure the scrolling background is about two times wider than the visible image size
2) Put the background onto the bottom layer - from now on we'll call it BG
3) Cut BG down the middle vertically and swap the left and right sections around, so that what was formerly the left and right edges are now touching each other in the middle of the layer
4) Using the clone tool and merging details from the left and right sections, fix the seam in the center. It doesn't have to be perfect
5) Now copy and paste BG onto a new layer, and move the copy so that the left edge of copy is lined up with the right edge of BG
6) Merge the layers onto BG
7) You now have the option of applying some motion blur to BG. It usually helps a lot
Go to ImageReady if you're not already there
8) Now pull BG so that the right edge is at the right edge of the visible image
9) Make a new frame, and pull BG to the right until exactly the same area is visible in the image
10) Now tween frame 1 to frame 2 - just experiment with the number of frames and the frame speed until it's smooth
11) Throw the last frame away - it will be a copy of the first frame, so you don't need it
12) There's your scrolling looped background :)

(or anything that does tweening)
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ta muchly for that.
Currently sat at work supposedly doing stuff so i can't really try it atm.
I shall though and my results will appear here soon-ish.
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Currently sat at work supposedly doing stuff so i can't really try it atm.
I shall though and my results will appear here soon-ish.

www.maidenart.co.uk/scrolling-background.html
Man, I should get me some better software. I have to do shit like this by hand, frame by frame!


thanks Rapitinui - much like the helpful mofaha's instructions above but with pictures.
Ty folks.. it's all much appreciated :)
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Ty folks.. it's all much appreciated :)

haha
Although I had meant to update my tutorial to include the tweening technique at the end, as it's a much cleaner way of animating the in-between frames..
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Although I had meant to update my tutorial to include the tweening technique at the end, as it's a much cleaner way of animating the in-between frames..


(It's storm troopers racing on space hoppers)

of the scrolly wotsit thingies that i was talking about :)
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There's no background scrolly tool.
Picture the street you're walking down. Now use a telescope to view the same street. It's just magnified to get the perspective. Play with zoom to make it scroll.
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Picture the street you're walking down. Now use a telescope to view the same street. It's just magnified to get the perspective. Play with zoom to make it scroll.

I can animate gifs in Photoshop? I've used Ulead for ages...
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which is good for making animated animations.
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Moderately good. I believe Sunshine Elephant uses Ulead, so there can't be too much wrong with it.
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problems compressing to a decent size, so's that the gif will be allowed on the board (without moaning)
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Usually the number of colo[u]rs, the amount of dithering, and the number of frames. If you click the 4-up tab in Imageready, you can compare the outputs of these and try to find one that suits your needs with the best quality. I have no idea about Ulead, since I've never used it.
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there are a couple of additional tricks that sometimes make a huge difference. Not all of them work all of the time, but they're all worth trying.
If your image does NOT contain any transparency, try toggling transparency on/off
Sometimes, reducing colours by just 1 or 2 can suddenly drop 15kb from an image, so always try stepping down a few colours one at a time
Try adding a tiny amount of lossy compression - a setting of just 1 or 2 can sometimes make a huge difference to filesize without any noticable difference in quality
Obviously you can try reducing diffusion or using a different diffusion method BUT if you absolutely have to have lots of diffusion, try stepping down from 100% to 99%... odd though this is, it sometimes drops as much as 30 or 40kb
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If your image does NOT contain any transparency, try toggling transparency on/off
Sometimes, reducing colours by just 1 or 2 can suddenly drop 15kb from an image, so always try stepping down a few colours one at a time
Try adding a tiny amount of lossy compression - a setting of just 1 or 2 can sometimes make a huge difference to filesize without any noticable difference in quality
Obviously you can try reducing diffusion or using a different diffusion method BUT if you absolutely have to have lots of diffusion, try stepping down from 100% to 99%... odd though this is, it sometimes drops as much as 30 or 40kb

until I bit the bullet and started getting into Flash.
It's really nice to be able to tween scale, shape, and rotation.

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It's really nice to be able to tween scale, shape, and rotation.


Flash... and, in that particular suitcase of things.. I just know I'm gonna be laughed at for asking the question, and I know that I already have a good idea of the answer, but.. I bet the ActionScript doesn't make a damned difference to the final gif image? (in that if I move a circle across the page with ActionScript, the circle won't move in the gif? Am I right, or completely wrong?
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Obviously all interactivity will be lost such as roll overs or buttons, but anything moving (such as your circle across a page) will be exported just fine.

the problem with scripted animation in Flash is that it usually takes place on just one frame using the framerate as a kind of timed execution loop. The problem is that Flash exports to gif by converting each frame in Flash to a frame in the gif, and if there's only one frame and the movement on it is scripted, it won't export, at least not in my experience.
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Obviously gif doesn't support sound like Flash does, but the animation should export exactly as it appears in your Flash 'movie'.
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if it was part of the animation rather than triggered by an event?
I'm ignorant of it and guessing.
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I'm ignorant of it and guessing.

but everything scripted that I've tried to export has failed. Actually as a result of this conversation I may try again with more simple examples... the stuff I was trying to export was often complex, in the sense that it was randomly generated at run-time, and the objects didn't really exist in the file until the script created them dynamically. A simple scripted object movement might export, if it was done as a frame by frame incremental change and the frames physically existed in the Flash file... that would kind of defeat the object of scripting it though :)
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Where you can position an object and create new frames based on its movement. I can understand what you're saying about the dynamic creation of stuff, it's just kind of suprising that Flash doesn't export the actual animation (the output of the scripts) if they're an automatic part of the file.
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was because sometimes I do things better in programming than in imaging (why my images aren't overly wonderful), and I always, always revert to language (logic) than art.
I know that statements wouldn't be exported to a gif file, although I'm not too sure of how a gif file is built and what it coprises of (maybe I'd like to know). But, since Flash was mentioned for exporting GIFs, I just wondered how far Flash could be pushed.??????
/frowns and consitpates with concentration
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I know that statements wouldn't be exported to a gif file, although I'm not too sure of how a gif file is built and what it coprises of (maybe I'd like to know). But, since Flash was mentioned for exporting GIFs, I just wondered how far Flash could be pushed.??????
/frowns and consitpates with concentration

I've never bothered with Imageready...
...that'll be why I don't know about it.
sorry
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...that'll be why I don't know about it.
sorry

is to use a 3D program. Trying to do it in potatoshop is at best difficult.
Every time you post a thread in here without a pic, a kitten is abused:

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Every time you post a thread in here without a pic, a kitten is abused:


particularly at night.
I wasted a thread (below), but this was an honest question at a fairly slow time. I don't see anything wrong with trying to learn and asking people who might know.
This is, after all, a message board.
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I wasted a thread (below), but this was an honest question at a fairly slow time. I don't see anything wrong with trying to learn and asking people who might know.
This is, after all, a message board.

Not that there was any sort of sentiment. You'll also notice I did answer his question in a completely non-threatening way complete with helpful (IMHO) information and I did not flame him either.
If that's not good enough you can always ignore me.
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If that's not good enough you can always ignore me.

I like your stuff and you're pretty swell.
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Either way, not a problem or as the Aussies say, no worries
=)
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=)

and i promise i'll post a pic next time :P
it might even have a scrolly wotsit thingy \o/
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it might even have a scrolly wotsit thingy \o/
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