Hello B3TA
Last week I posted a message for the QOTW about the time I put some chilli powder on my cheating girlfriends Rampant Rabbit.

I have recieved a lot of messages about this - most have been pretty positive - a couple have been from femails who done the same to the BFs Y-fronts when he was caught with his pants down. 6 messages told me that I was a "wanker" (Yup!) with a small penis (depends on outside temperature) and a Cunt (Yup). One message I was sent went like this

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No doubt a few people have dropped you a line to tell you what a complete cock you are, but I felt I just had to be one of them.
I was raped by my partner when I attempted to leave him. It wasn't the first time, but he followed up by- you guessed it- a handful of chilli powder. There were other aspects to the assault, but I won't bore you with them.
It may interest you to know that you are in no way original. My experience with survivor groups of sadistic rape is that bleach and capsican are fairly common.
Now, let me tell you something you may not be aware of. This hurts. It burns like hell, and it did not stop burning for days, despite the yogurt douche that I, like your unfortunate expartner, was administered.
Capsican-based inflammation of the vagina and labia is much more painful and potentially dangerous than exposure to eyes or penises. This has to do with the fact that the vagina is a tight tube that maintains a high temperature, rather than an exposed area that can be flushed easily.
Quite aside from the traumatic aspects of intense genital pain, the constant stimulation of nerves in the vaginal area can trigger temporary or permenant vaginal dyspareunia, making sex anywhere from extremely unpleasant to impossible.
You are an irresponsible, violent man. You committed sexual assault by proxy upon your expartner, and appear to think this was clever and admirable. I hope the woman you injured reported it to the police.
Relationships end. Relationships overlap. Adults deal with heartbreak and anger in many ways. Deliberately harming your partner is never an appropriate reaction.
If you have a moment, please indulge me by picturing a woman you love- your mother, sister, grandmother, a close friend- confiding in you that a man had deliberatly harmed her by forcing a capsican-coated sex toy inside her. Picture her telling you how much it hurt, and how nothing seemed to stop it, and how the burning was so intense that she could do nothing but cry in a cold bath, rocking back and forth. Picture her telling you how worried she was that the pain would not stop, that it might damage her in some way or hurt her fertility. Picture her telling you that even though she's now physically fine, she worries that this man might become more violent, might do something else. Picture her being uneasy or uncomfortable with sex.
Then picture yourself, going round to her attacker's house in order to congratulate him. Afterall, that cunt probably deserved it.

And now, go and fuck yourself, you privileged, raping piece of shit.

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(Persons username witheld for obvious reasons)

This is my post for "Sex misconceptions"

I posted a story of (what I thought was) harmless sexual revenge on QOTW and NOW I have been branded a rapist by several people

EDIT: Just want to say thanks to all the people that clicky me to the best page - Woo you

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On next weeks show we have Live DNA test results - only on QOTW

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KMWIP
( KISS.ME.WHERE.I.POO Signed the sex offenders register on, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:16, 81 replies)

Well,
this was sort of the point (in reguards to pain) I meant before, as I have had chilli in my piece once, although it was an accident as we had been cooking it FUCKING CANED and I couldn't sit comfortably for ages.

Your not a rapist though, thats bullshit.
(Turn that bloody gramaphone down has incorrect spelling in her username *WINS*, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:26, closed)

So...
did the FBI know that Internal Affairs were onto them?

Edit - Just messing. It doesn't make you a rapist. Perhaps you should have used a less powerful substance, like tabasco sauce or that Ragga Ragga stuff?
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:29, closed)

Racist?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
(Turn that bloody gramaphone down has incorrect spelling in her username *WINS*, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:42, closed)

Damn, you noticed
I changed it to 'rapist' as soon as I realised. Doh!
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:44, closed)

hehe
Is a yoghurt douche like one of those new fangled yoghurts with a corner of fruit or rice crispies?
(powervator and NONE SHALL PASS, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:33, closed)

Incidentally...
I wonder if the person that left the message is aware of the definition of the word 'rape', and are they also aware of the psychological term 'transference'?

Interesting.
(powervator and NONE SHALL PASS, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:35, closed)

Very good
You hit in one sentence what I was trying to get across to KISS ME in several PMs. Well done.
(TDub Nunc id vides, nunc ne vides on, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:39, closed)

so obviously 'not clever'
I didn't see your initial post, or see if you seemed to have 'bragged' about it..but obviously someone has experienced this and it sounds close to torture.

(Why then post their message? It only makes you look even more of a Cunt. I would recommend you delete this).

People get angry, people do horrible things.. the thought of somebody else's cock inside her..and her enjoying it, must have been eating away at your insides.

I have heard some horrible 'revenge' stories, and 99% of them are by women..doing whatever to their mans house, clothes, car..then body nasties such as hair, cutting him or even chopping off his penis. Though Bizarrely.. thats classed as 'OK', because its 'a woman scorned' and all that...seen as almost their 'right'.

I condone the above as much as I condone your post.
(TheRiddler Hmmmmm... I concur., Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:36, closed)

I disagree
He should keep the response. It's a valid point of view, and as long as he's not mocking it that's fine- it shows that sometimes doing funny things can have unexpectedly godawful results.

Anyway, enough moralising!
( uberdeity Wondered why Owen Lars knew of the term "hell" on, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:40, closed)

Hey
I am not mocking her. She has clearly been through something tough and I am in no position to mock or judge.

What I done to my ex was wrong, but, people do stupid things when they are angry.

Do you think that her response is a fair response to make to someone who has pulled off a childish prank??

My logic behind the prank was this. Me and the ex had unprotected sex. After 8 years of a relationship - protection against a disease is not important. I had unprotected sex with my ex girlfriend after she had had sex with another man. The first thing I said to her when i found out that she had cheated was "Did you use a condom"

She had not


My revenge was nasty and childish. It would never of killed her. Her actions could of led to my death or infertility. Using chilli on the vibrator was perhaps, in the twisted logic of my brain, a way of teaching her the importance of protection
( KISS.ME.WHERE.I.POO Signed the sex offenders register on, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 17:14, closed)

That should have been
"could have led to your death or infertility"

other than that, sounded like it was well worth it!
(Tyraen, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 17:07, closed)

Fucking hell...
I may be a wanker because of it but that person sounds like a fucking prick.

Just because they've had a hard time does not mean they can accuse everyone they feel like it of horrible things. You didn't commit rape.
( vix0r was not Matthew on, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:40, closed)

not rape?
he did however commit a sexual assault.
Any kind of assault can really mess someones life up.

Granted this was not (I hope) the intention.
(googlebot, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 17:28, closed)

what always gets me...
with messages like that is that the poster would feel totally vindicated in labelling KMWIP (and presumably all other men) a "rapist" for doing something that was intended to be a prank, yet if it was a post in which a girl had nail-gunned her cheating boyfriend's scrotum to the table, they'd probably be posting "hell yeah, you go girl!".

I don't believe that KMWIP was intending to do anything potentially lethal and (whilst painful) chilli up the flange is not life-threatening, whatever anyone says - oh, and the eye is far more sensitive to damage than a fleshy tube, so if we can use pepper spray, then it's non-lethal. Sore, yes, but that's the idea - maybe it'd have stopped her swinging from cock to cock like tarzan for a while.

However, at no point did the emotional cripple who posted that unpleasant rant say anything about the cheating girl who lied and hurt a guy who cared for her just to satisfy her lust. In fact, the poster is almost saying that women are going to lie and cheat, so men should just accept it and not feel like they have a right to feel hard done by or wish for some sort of retaliation.

So, my question is this - who does more harm to Womens' Rights? The guy (KMWIP) who admittedly acted in a petty act of revenge after being hurt, or the man-hater who has just effectively labelled all women as selfish nymphomaniacs who have no conscience?
(Chad, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:46, closed)

this is such bullshit
in other words,

"I was raped, your story has some similarities to my rape... therefore its all your fault"

To be honest i saw your original post, although i saw it as a slight over reaction - and yes, probably harmed her, i have heard of similar stories women have done to men. But thats ok so it seems.

she might have given you an STD - but did anyone think of that? hhmmmm no. I would say that is FAR worse than anything you did to her.

But no, apparantly YOU are the rapist... for your story.... which you were the victim in... for which you didnt do anything to provoke....

yes...
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 16:55, closed)

rape
mate of mine calls it 'surprise sex'. He maintains that as long as you shout 'SURPRISE!!!' before you do it then it's ok.

I have never raped anybody or attempted 'surprise sex' but that's still pretty funny.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 17:02, closed)

its that old joke
man one: i can have sex with any women in this bar
man two: hows that then?
Man one: im a rapist!
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 17:08, closed)

or
When chatting to a girl:
you - We're so having sex tonight!
Her - How can you be so confident?
You - I can run faster than you...
( Moonraker isn't the droid you were looking for, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 17:41, closed)

alternate endings to that one being
"I'm bigger than you"

and

"I've got a knife"

:)
(Kendal, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 18:57, closed)

also, it's not a surprise if you shout "RAPE!"
you know, fair warning and all.
(Stu Moo winner of five nobble piece prizes, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 19:48, closed)

This person is obviously an idiot
Also I don't undersatnd the "privilaged" bit.

Perhaps if the respondant didn't take such a casual attitude to cheating and generally being a slut bag she may find herself less likely to be in the situation with dickhead rapists.

Obviously I'm not condoning rape in any shape or form, just saying she has in no way helped herself to stay safe.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 17:17, closed)

Was the person's username
......Millie Tant?
(powervator and NONE SHALL PASS, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 17:37, closed)

From a female point of view (and it's no secret I've been raped before).
Putting chilli powder on her dildo does NOT make you a rapist.
In fact, as much as I wouldn't like it done to me, I laughed my arse off reading the original post and clicked!

Was it juvenile? Yes, but hell, we've all been there and done something silly over a breakup.
( Batshitmentalist is sane for once, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 17:54, closed)

I'm with everyone else
FFS, his girlfriend of 8 years cheated on him. Without a condom. That is a huge breach of trust, and effectively negates 8 years of your life. I have no issue with a selfish little shit like that being taught a valuable lesson.

Whoever wrote that gaz has clearly been fucked over to a massive degree, and that's terrible. But it is not the same thing.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 18:34, closed)

KMWIP
As a girlie all I can say is what you did to your ex was inexcusable, you must have known what the outcome would be when you put chilli on the sex toy. Not good and definitely not clever.

But to the bead, scarf and bangle wearing vegetarian paid up green party member who got a bit grumpy about it. What would you do if Tarquin, your transgendered, quasi-bollocked partner had done the same thing? Would you have swapped his tofu for quorn? Would you have shaved your armpits so you were less then Germanic? Or would you have made his life the misery it deserved to be?

I can't believe you would have had a sip of green acai tea and let the world revolve as it has always done
( no longer a user, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 18:49, closed)

I concur

Best reply ever!
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 9:28, closed)

KMWIP
Hello KMWIP,

I am a male and was with my ex partner for 2 years. In this time, she stripped me of all my self confidence, used me for money, cheated on my numerous times and was incredibly volatile..so much so that she lashed out at me (I have been strangled in my sleep and she once hit me with an iron) time and time again. It wasn't until one fateful night that I confessed to myself that I was in an abusive relationship.

One thing people have to remember, is that b3ta QOTW answers can be 100% made up, or a minor fabrication of the truth, or even a real story. You can not come onto a site like this and try to preach to someone else and then accuse them of something as extreme as rape.

I have tried my utmost to keep my sense of humor - I laugh at jokes about babies, people of a different race and jokes which are in bad taste/are not PC.

Even though I did not get revenge on my ex, I sometimes wish I did just to feel a little bit better about the situation. Your posts always bring a smile to my face - and I for one can tell the difference between something jovial and something which was intended to permanantly damage another in a sadistic way for self amusement.

So, this was a long winded little note to say that not all of us who have had bad experiences think you are a cunt, or twisted, or whatever else people have called you. I'd keep your chin up and stand your ground - it was a prank..and best of all, it's one for all the lads who have been walked all over!!
( mango_charlie, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 18:54, closed)

Interesting
Whilst the tragic experience that the person that messaged you is particularly harrowing, she seems to miss the point.

You didn't 'forcefully' do anything. If she wasn't cheating on you with another guy, it wouldn't have happened - different from you doing anything directly yourself. Whilst the pain would've been less than nice, I would have thought that the memories of close physical contact with the person maliciously doing the act would've hurt more.

I feel for the postee, but I didn't once think reading your post that it was anything other than sweet revenge that would pass within a day.

Just unfortunate for yourself that what you did as a final 'fuck you' awoke some dark feelings for somebody else.

I'm sure if I wrote a message describing how I forced my little brothers to fight me in a 'Tag Team WWF Match' as a kid, I'd have somebody snarling down the broadband having a go*

(to lighten things up)

Q: How do you turn a fruit into a vegetable?
A: AIDS

x

* This did not happen if this has awoken repressed memories of Hacksaw Jim Duggan
( elgordo, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 20:18, closed)

People who allege rape when there is no rape deserve worse than a chilli dildo;

( idonthaveafunnynickname Drink-Aware? Sure. I'm aware I want another drink., Mon 29 Sep 2008, 20:29, closed)

why
are so many people making the assumption that this girl is saying it would be somehow acceptable if this (or similar) was done to a guy?

I'm getting a bit f**ked off at the nasty little vein of misogyny i've seen creeping into the qotw lately. I don't think KMWIP's original tale is one of them - it was mean, yes, and reckless, but in the context of someone who's been badly hurt it's not that terrible, and it certainly isn't rape. Unfortunately, it obviously awoke memories of a horrible (but very different) experience for the girl, and she's responded overemotionally. But nowhere in her message does she even hint that it would be OK or even somehow applauded if a woman had taken a similar kind of revenge on a guy. I don't know any woman that thinks like that, thank God, so please don't stereotype us all as that kind of vile human being.

And as for that bilious little line about bead and shawl-wearing-vegan-etc-yadder-blah, what a shame you couldn't do better than some lazy sneering caricature. I for one feel sorry for this girl, though I don't condone groundless designations of rape. She's been through a pretty horrific experience, so maybe a bit of old-fashioned charity might be nice. She might have said something a stupid and OTT, but it hardly makes her Robert Mugabe, does it?

/rant
(jennymnemonic, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 21:15, closed)

That's a valid point
but I am confused as to where this "nasty little vein of misogyny" is?
( Bazongaloid, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 22:05, closed)

I know
it's in a willy.
(powervator and NONE SHALL PASS, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 22:09, closed)

is it misogony..
to say that if it was a girl saying "I put a used tampon in my cheating fella's herbal tea" (potentially toxic), which we have had on here recently, then all the ladis would be whooping and hollering, but if a guy says "my girlfriend of 8 years, who I loved, cheated on me and potentially exposed me to a life-threatening STD by acting like a slut, so I played a prank that was childish but ultimately non-lethal to teach her a lesson" he gets a kicking from all the weirdos who crawl out of the woodwork in order to label any man who does anything either a rapist or sexist bastard, primarily due to their own mental issues being projected onto every man they come into contact with?

Or, alternatively, are we now seeing an upsurge of post-feminist PC-thought control where we can only post if we allow bunny boilers and cheating girls to live a consequence-free life and take all the emotional blackmail, mind-games and psychological torture their actions can bring and act as if everything is just fine with it?

I'm not saying it was the correct/mature/sensible thing to do, but what she did was, in actuality, much worse - not to mention the fact that, as this is a web site, these posts could be total bullshit in the first place?
(Chad, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 22:37, closed)

Hmm..
Are you a vegan? Are you? I bet you are. Do you wear shawls? Do you? Are they nice and comfy?

You're not allowed into my vegetarian, scarf wearing cariacature; I'm afraid you'll have to stay in the one you made up all by yourself. So there.

Oh, and the bilious bit. There's nothing more bilious than the reply KMWIP got; accusations of rape, images of family members, the use of the nasty C word. If indeed the replyee was going through a repressed trauma, she's definitely at the angry stage and not the weeping into her jumper (or shawl, or scarf, or non-gender specific woven garment) stage. If I were a bloke I'd be shitting myself I'd be the next on her shag-list.
( no longer a user, Wed 1 Oct 2008, 7:42, closed)

*appluads you KMWIP*
the person who Pm'd you sounds like my ex.
messed up bunny boiler. (who also calls me a rapist as i thought her sister was fit)

it may be the case the person has had a bad time but to call you a rapist.. is not on.
( hooker1uk Filth monger of the lowest degree!, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 21:23, closed)

jennymnemonic
finally injects some balance into this series of replies. Thanks, I would have put it far more clumsily myself.
(LickOutTheJamsMotherfuckers!, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 22:09, closed)

And the nasty
vein of misogyny is in people immediately assuming that because this girl made comments about Kiss.Me's actions being outrageous and tantamount to rape (which I don't agree with), that she would hypocritically believe that equivalent actions against men would be justified.

Nowhere did she mention or allude to any attitude towards men that could be considered a double standard, in fact she didn't even mention reactions towards men at all.

Instead, repliers wished to label her as a bunnyboiler and an irrational hypocrite, a misogynistic stereotype of an overly self-righteous woman who believes men are at the same time pigs and deserving of painful revenge. From what I have seen, she is not.
(LickOutTheJamsMotherfuckers!, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 22:15, closed)

that's not the point...
the point is that we see post after post of women saying they did X or Y to a fella they thought was cheating and the (predominantly male) board laughs along and takes it all in good humour, yet the minute a guy says he did something silly to get back at a girl who hurt him, betrayed him and potentially risked his health, he gets slammed by some nutjob with a grudge (whether real or imagined), who then gets the unconditional support of female posters based on the simple fact she is female, thus any male poster who criticizes her must be a sexist pig.

I'm not a sexist, I just think there is a huge double standard at work here.
(Chad, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 22:46, closed)

I think...
Cheating on your partner is wrong,

I think assault on a woman's genetals in whatever form it takes is fucking REALLY wrong.
(Slyph, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 0:36, closed)

This
.
(Slyph, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 0:38, closed)

Gender
We're assuming KMWIP is a bloke.....

....discuss
(YourLocalGP, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 7:42, closed)

Clearly not rape.
And as for violent? Surely if it's anything it's passive agressive rather than violent. Easy revenge rather than a hunt for women to hurt. To honestly compare what you did to rape is madness, and while the person who sent the message has issues that I don't want to belittle, the reaction in itself seems a bit disrespectful to victims of actual violent rape to me.

Yes it was childish and clearly painful but has the person who sent the pm made the assumption that physical pain trumps emotional pain? An odd assumption for a rape victim when many such victims pinpoint the domination and curtailing of free will and choice being the more painful and terrifying thing about rape. Its the emotional elements that linger, not the physical.

AND....Basic Sex Toy hygiene! Why didn't they give them a quick wipe down after moving from one partner to another? Not saying people should keep toys under lock and key to stop a chilli attack but surely a good deep cleaning when moving partners is sensible. If anything the cheating ex sounds like the reckless one, reckless with their own and your sexual health.

Hmmm. I rambled a bit. Basically, go Kiss.Me.Where.I.Poo!
(Peljammy Watching Godzilla, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 23:03, closed)

good point...
the fact is that every time I've been with a girl who used toys, they'd give them a wipe even if they'd been in a drawer for a week or so - no-one wants old fanny batter up their chuff, after all.

I've got zero sympathy for the cheating girl, to be blunt.
(Chad, Mon 29 Sep 2008, 23:12, closed)

Soooo,
What you're suggesting is that, because she's "dirty", she "asked for it"?
(Slyph, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 0:38, closed)

in a way...
yes, in that she hurt her boyfriend and it was foolish to think that anyone would take such actions with a pinch of salt and a "well, I should just understand and accept it". That is a naive and idiotic viewpoint.

She was in the wrong to do what she did, but I don't think that the chilli was necessarily the right thing to do - I just think that it is ridiculous to think it's horrible for a guy to exact some petty revenge on his cheating missus, when everyone would find it ok if a girl did it to a cheating guy. (the cup of tea/tampon trick, etc, that everyone found hilarious).

The fact is that some psychologically damaged individual has accused the wronged boyfriend who had been hurt very badly and reacted in a petty childish manner (by his own admission) of being a rapist and somehow evil and a bunch of do-gooders jumped on the bandwagon. Am I the only one who sees this as somewhat hypocritical when no-one jumped on the bandwagon to condemn the "I go revenge on my ex-boyfriend" stories?
(Chad, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 1:16, closed)

again,
who is saying that 'everyone would find it ok if a girl did it to a cheating guy?'

Exactly. No-one. It wouldn't be OK. It wasn't OK when that girl went on about deliberately breaking her boyfriend's leg either on a previous QOTW, and if I'd seen it in time I'd have said something to that effect. You've obviously concocted some caricature of a militant proto-feminist group 'whooping and hollering' when one of the sisterhood gets revenge on the evil patriarchal conspiracy, but once again, no-one is saying that.
(jennymnemonic, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 10:07, closed)

really?
The fact is that we have had posts on the revenge QoTW threads where women have done cruel things to men, but I didn't notice a huge backlash at them for it (again, the tampon-in-the-tea story from last week, rings true here), whereas the minute a guy has admitted to doing something he himself admits was childish and irresponsible in an act of retaliation at being treated horribly by a partner, he is tarred with the same brush as Hitler and Josef Fritzl.

Also, the fact that we have had women on here who have a) been attacked and, b) read KMWIP's story and they haven't jumped on the hate bandwagon, tells me that maybe they are being fairer when they say "yes it was stupid and probably wrong, but it made me laugh". But no, we are drowned out by the bunny-boilers and the Emos looking for the moral high-ground.

I'm married. My wife was in an abusive relationship before we met, so I think I know how to be sensitive to upset women who have been vulnerable, yet if I dare question the mental balance of some of these arguments being thrown around on here, I am accused of being a misogynist. The truth is that most of the people throwing the accusations around are either too young to really understand what a relationship actually means, or what life is about, or they are just jumping on the moral bandwagon, as the fact is there is no factual basis for most of the vitriolic statements made and no answers have been given for direct hypocritical examples that I and others have given.
(Chad, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 16:17, closed)

seems to me
you're the one bringing the vitriol to this discussion. Nowhere have I condemned men in general, cos I don't deal with stupid generalisations, or (how many times do I have to say this before you twig) suggested I was in support of women taking revenge against men. Naturally that would be hypocritical.

I didn't even say I objected to KMWIP's original post, because I didn't. The reason I was moved to comment on this thread was that I felt it was being unfair on women in general and on the replier in particular. Just trying to bring a bit of balance to the discussion, as belms kindly noticed. If that makes me a 'do-gooder', well, I'm happy to say that I have the courage of my convictions, just as you clearly do. But at least I do people the courtesy of reading their replies properly, rather than through the filter of my own frantic over-wrought notions.

And by the way - it's very easy to trample over the argument of someone you disagree with by yelling 'PC' at them a la Daily Mail, but it's a pretty weak manoeuvre, and it certainly ain't accurate.
(jennymnemonic, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 17:56, closed)

Surely
the women who made posts about harming ex-bfs might have had the same backlash, but they didn't post their PMs on the qotw?

Not that I'm saying KMWIP was that wrong in what he did, nor that he was wrong in posting the response, but I think you're eager to see a double standard here.
(LickOutTheJamsMotherfuckers!, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 18:01, closed)

A physical assault
Especially a sexuallised physical assault, no matter in what passive-agressive, roundabout way it was performed is not an appropriate response to being cheated on, in fact, it's a psychotic thing to do. I don't think people should be prosecuted for cheating, I think people should be prosecuted for assault.

You made this about gender. If this was something that had happened between a gay couple i'd still be totally against it.
(Slyph, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 10:20, closed)

So by your definition
a "Do-Gooder" is somebody who doesn't assault people?
(Slyph, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 13:28, closed)

I
think she's right. I think you're a complete piece of shit. I don't want to debate the semantics of rape, but sufficed to say I think you are a horrible fucking person.
(Slyph, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 0:25, closed)

"I don't want to debate the semantics of rape"
No, you just want to go along with labelling someone a rapist or a sexual-assaulter because it makes you feel better. For what, who knows? I doubt you are a victim, I tend to think you're more of a bandwagon-jumper, but maybe you're a cheating partner and don't like the idea of someone finding you out and doing something similar. To be honest, I don't care, but I think that in order to aspire to your level of piety and self-righteousness, someone would need to be a blood relative of Jesus himself.

If you don't want people to pick up on your bigotry or pick holes in your arguments when they fail to follow you blindly, don't post on this board, as it is full of cynics and people who use logic instead of rhetoric and dogma. If you make a point, be prepared to back it up and face up to people disagreeing - don't spit out your dummy and start name-calling or making sweeping generalizations, as it will just make you look like a fool.
(Chad, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 15:02, closed)

for someone who is so keen to point out hypocrisy wherever it may lie
you might want to reconsider throwing accusations of using rhetoric and dogma and sweeping generalisations rather than rational argument at others...
(jennymnemonic, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 19:03, closed)

2 sides to this...
Firstly, KMWIP, I thought what you did was very funny.

Secondly, KMWIP, I what you did, although funny, was ultimately wrong and your ex probably would have grounds to claim you assaulted her. YOU are NOT however a rapist. I trust the person who messaged you is a new user and has never vited sickipedia....

I can sort of see both sides to this - whoever messaged you did a spectacularly bad job of making their point, but still...

I found out last week that my current missus was repeatedly raped over a number of years by a member of her close family. That has made it very hard to laugh at many of the things on this site that usually have me pissing myself.

I admit, that if had I the opportunity to hurt that member of my girlfriend's family I'd happily do the same and worse. The thought of her scared, hurting... and I guess I'd brag about it too.

From that position KMWIP I can't (and try not to) judge you. Having said that, and acknowledging that others have probably made the point better, there are 2 sides to every coin.

In this case I see, on one side, a cheating partner who acted in a shameful way and deserved some sort of retribution along with a hurting partner who, on the spur of the moment, did something silly out of spite.

On the other side I see a woman (albeit in this case through her own bad choices) in a vulnerable position (you had unrightful access to something you knew she'd be using for sex) being purposefully sexually hurt (a different kind of hurt to you scratching all her favourite CDs, I think you will admit KMWIP).

So, there you have a collection of, in retrospect, quite rambling and not particularly coherent thoughts/arguments.

Please forgive me - its been a draining week.

To close, I'm clicking this because, for the discussion alone this deserves to be on the first page.
(ComplexStuff Was confused by life on, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 1:05, closed)

Sorry KMWIP
But I'm afraid you lost the moral highground the second your "brain wurred into action" for that plan.

What you did was a calculated form of torture that could have seriously scarred her ability to feel pleasure, to feel secure and sexual. And when you heard her screams down the phone, you laughed. This is someone you cared about for 8 years?

I don't know your emotional state at the time, but your actions were not an emotional outburst - they were planned.

What she did to you was wrong.

And you're no rapist.

But what you did puts you right on her level.
(Adamish Time of death, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 1:06, closed)

??
hello, thought id add my two cents.... cheating hurts, ive been cheated on alot. But ive never gone and 'got revenge'. I think thats just me, even tho people around me might be cruel i never stoop to there level. I hope i never do. Maybe this makes me an unhealthy person but whatever. Revenge of the physical kind is just not on. Maybe you should have cut up all her clothes and scratched 'slut' into her car bonnet?
(Serbitar Has a furry shit canon called Whitey., Tue 30 Sep 2008, 1:15, closed)

KMWIP...
...I've had a meeting and we all agree you are not a rapist.

Lighten up you miserable pricks this is B3ta not some channel four helpline opened because of a controversial Hollyoaks storyline. I've read things on here that I have thought were horrible and made me upset too...but...it's my choice to visit this website and thus my fault for reading it. You knew what you were signing up for!

If you dont like goatse...don't look at goatse, simple really.

As a footnote my ex partner was raped while we were together and although it tore our relationship apart through her lack of self confidence and ability to trust anyone, its got fuck all to do with you people...or me anymore for that matter...so grow up or go play The Sims.

cunts!
( Supersam11 Can I go on the slides please?, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 2:50, closed)

Can I just ask...
Was the girl seriously or permanently injured?

If not, and I'm imagining she wasn't otherwise she would have A. Reported it and KMWIP could have been in serious legal shit. B. Because I doubt with the benefit of hindsight he would brag about it.

So what the fuck is the problem? If he had slapped her when he found out would anyone really be THAT offended. Whats the difference?

As far as the rape bit, that doesn't even warrant a reply its so stupid.
(Bam Bam McPenis will change all this when he is fuhrer., Tue 30 Sep 2008, 3:20, closed)

You complete and utter shite.
You committed a sexual assault.

You deliberately caused someone you used to love excruciating pain. Just because she hurt you first does not make it alright.

Jails are full to bursting with stupid bastards muttering "Fuckin bitch got what she deserved".

You are not a rapist ... but you are not far short of it.
(Que?, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 4:00, closed)

hahah
Baaaaaaaaaaaaw

Kiss.Me.Where.I.Poo this is brilliant. Well done you. Next time, use fire ants.
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Tue 30 Sep 2008, 6:45, closed)

Dumb ass
motherfuckers.

KMWIP did something a bit daft, but so have a lot of other people. He is in no way a rapist or even close to being a rapist.

Chin up bonny lad, she wont make that mistake again, and hopefully the mad bint who sent you the message can get her self sorted the fuck out, and stop trying to blame evevryone for what happened to her. I once got chilli in my eye, which is a bit somilar to her, ergo I raped my self. Stupid motherfuckers.

This is b3ta people, get a grip and expect some stuff that is a bit close to the knuckle. On a lighter note:

Whats the difference between Paula Radclife and Hitler?
Hitler tried to finish the race.

(This quite probably makes me a Nazi Rapist Stormtrooper of Death)*

*However this being b3ta I am more likley to be in trouble for telling an old joke. I love (most of) you guys.
(Commander Cool, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 8:50, closed)

A joke in poor taste
Is not a calculated sexualized physical assault.
(Slyph, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 10:21, closed)

Calculated sexualised physical assault
Is that what you call it when KMWIP finds he has HIV? Or syphilis?

There's a side to this story that you're deliberately ignoring in your attempt to demonise KMWIP and canonize the cheating bitch.
(DigitalRaven will have to make do with gin, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 13:01, closed)

Canonize?
Oh I see, sooo, there are like, Whores, and Madonnas, and if we disagree with the sadistic torture of another human being for rewenge we're automatically categorizing that person as the latter?
(Slyph, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 13:14, closed)

get over yourself
I didn't "make this about gender", as you state, I merely pointed out that we have had numerous revenge stories posted by women that are viewed as fine by yourself and others (because people haven't posted the vitriol you have on this topic), but the minute it is a guy doing something similar to a cheating girl, there is huge stream of people telling him he's psychotic, abusive and a potential rapist. I just stated that I felt this was a huge double-standard, but obviously things can only be labeled as sexist by you and the others like you if it's a man doing it.

If someone wronged you, no doubt you would feel justified in feeling aggrieved and by maybe making a gesture of defiance, but if someone else does it and they happen to be male they happen to be some evil swine.

The pompous moralizing seen on this thread beggars belief when it is taking place on a website that enjoys regular jokes about madeline mcann, gary glitter and other potentially offensive subject matters with full support of its members.

Frankly, this has just highlighted the hypocrisy of some members who see no problem in females "assaulting" males in tales of amusing and petty revenge, whereas they go ape-shit if it's the other way around. If you are truly a morally-pure individual, you should have been posting on the stories where girls have humiliated and taken revenge on guys, as the correct stance would be to only be concerned about the human suffering, yet I don't see many tales of girls taking revenge on guys having 30-odd responses along with some truly vitriolic comments. Do you, or could it just be that your views are predjudiced to say that girls can do what they like and it's all a good laugh, but guys must always act with christ-like restraint?
(Chad, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 14:01, closed)

Slyph
I promise to buy you a front row ticket to the next "My Chemical Romance" gig - only if you promise to stop posting on this QOTW

Deal?

KMWIP
( KISS.ME.WHERE.I.POO Signed the sex offenders register on, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 14:10, closed)

that sounds..
a bit rape-y...
(Chad, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 14:13, closed)

no-no its fine
I will shout "Suprise" First
( KISS.ME.WHERE.I.POO Signed the sex offenders register on, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 14:17, closed)

Actually
it wouldn't have been either calculated or assault if the girlfriend either hadn't considered the possibility that she might have an STD.

On the other hand, what KMWIP did was calculated. Not saying it wasn't amusing, but it was intentional.
(LickOutTheJamsMotherfuckers!, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 15:23, closed)

Quick blow the drama horn!
www.marriedtothesea.com/013107/its-my-turn-to-blow-the-drama-horn.gif
( M o D, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 9:31, closed)

Just to say
Mostly what everyone else says - perhaps a bit childish but one very valuable lesson learnt.

I'm sure it did hurt like hell, but if I cheated on my husband, I would expect some sort of retribution. It probably hurt as much as finding out she cheated on you.

How many of us wouldn't exact some terrible revenge? I know I would, and as the media have pointed out several cases over the years too.

We're only human. He didn't permanently wound or kill her - and definitely didn't rape her - so back off!
( VandenPlas can't think of anything clever - no change there!, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 9:36, closed)

Thoughts
I have a pretty clear opinion of what KMWIP did but I'll leave it to the end to avoid biasing people for/against the following thoughts:

KMWIP, your ex was (and probably still is) a cunt, no question. I've been cheated on in some pretty unpleasant circumstances and I know that it hurts, not just psychologically: sometimes you're in so much emotional pain that it actually physically hurts. However, you do get over these things.

Importantly, *your ex didn't do what she did in order to hurt you.* She did it because she's an idiotic bitch with more libido than sense and, if your relationship was worth anything, she would regret it pretty quickly (if not, then you're clearly better off without her). Her primary thought was to get laid, not to cause you pain (albeit that would have been a predictable outcome). You on the other hand deliberately set out to cause her pain and derived pleasure from her suffering. That, as far as I can see, makes you a sadistic piece of scum.

People cope with far worse emotional pain than this all the time, and they manage to do so without inflicting physical sexual pain on people. Your utter failure to man up and deal with it, without resorting to such sadism, is pretty sickening (as was her cheating). What you did was not a prank (burning all her underwear would have been a prank), and I think you're pretty lucky to have avoided legal consequences.

Please note that this is not due to gender bias, I think that the female poster who broke a bloke's leg in 2 places because he cheated on her should have spent quite some time in jail.

So in summary, you're a cunt (although not a rapist) KMWIP.
(flimflam_machine, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 10:57, closed)

^^ this
yes.
( rofl harris, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 15:51, closed)

My Thoughts...
When I read the original post, I laughed.

Not because of the pain it caused. Not because KMWIP laughed about it afterwards.

Because it was a funny fucking story.

I won't turn round and say she got what she deserved, but she should have known better than to do what she did.

However, I don't like the method of revenge, possibly a step too far.

Therefore, to all of you, don't follow his example.

Just kick her in the cunt til her tits explode.

/coat
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 12:02, closed)

common sense at last...
assuming that the story was, in fact, true, it was just that - a story. No different to those about wiping blood/snot/shit/semen on someone's food because "they looked at me funny", or the one's where people got revenge for perceived slights.

At worst, some cheating bitch (and before the feminists strike me down, let's be honest - cheating on your partner of 8 years, be you straight, gay, lesbian, male or female, is a shitty thing to do) found her tunnel of love feeling a bit warm for a while. Given the emotional trauma her actions were likely to have caused her partner, I think she got off lightly - after all, how many stories have there been of women stabbing husbands or stealing their life savings, etc, based on them hearing a rumour that they might have been cheated on? Let's not forget all the girls who went "yeah, I'd do that to you if you cheated" when they read about John Wayne Bobbit, either.

At the end of the day, the story itself made me laugh. The resultant backlash just made me realise that even on supposedly non-PC site like B3ta, there is always a bastion of the card-carrying thought police wherever you are. Shame.
(Chad, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 14:12, closed)

Under the circumstances
would it not have made more sense to put the reggae reggae sauce on the new bloke's cock?

As she wouldn't have had time for the rabbit by the looks of it.
( browser still relating boring anecdotes into a void on, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 12:10, closed)

oh for fucks sake.
put it this way,

8 years? you'd have got less for murdering the bitch. (and some good behaviour - obviously)

it's in teh past, no amount of hippyness is going to change that.
(Grahamey Lagroin For Its a grand old team to play for..., Tue 30 Sep 2008, 13:19, closed)

Not a rapist
I feel I should comment as I commented on KMWIP's original post, which I thought was funny. Which it was. It wasn't a nice thing to do, but as I recall the subject of the QOTW wasn't 'Post a story of something nice you did for someone'.

KMWIP did a bad thing, but the QOTWs are littered with tales of bad things done to other people. Let's have a sense of perspective and context, please. Did anyone who posted a laxative story get a similar flame accusing them of being a miscreant? What about the tales of pubes, or jism, or any other bodily fluids being surreptitiously introduced into people?

KMWIP did a bad thing, but it was also quite funny - and a world away from rape. If he's a rapist, everyone who's sabotaged food is a poisoner or potential murderer.
(uncle whippity, Tue 30 Sep 2008, 13:25, closed)