This comment after the article beggers belief
"It is not surprising that John Hemming and NuLabour are hatching plots with tremulous fingers to defame the BNP. NuLabour are true nasties"
Fucking hell ...
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:57, Reply)
haha
to be honest it did seem a bit "nurrr bnp are such thickies, labour wouldn't have cocked up like this, if we wanted to be biggoted we'd do our research first"
EDIT: it's also quite telling of the daily fail standards that the comments vaguely supportive of the BNP have been voted up, whilst the comment that is supportive on international tolerance, trade and negotiation has been voted down...
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:00,
Reply)
Yeah, I did notice that as well ...
and voted the positive internationalist comment up and the others down :) ... gotta do your bit !
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:14, Reply)
wait a god-damned minute!
Why is the daily fail running this story? Are they going for the sob story angle? Poor old BNP once again thwarted by the army of unwelcome immigrants to our fair isle?
Funny though. They really are a bunch of retards in suits.
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Damocles wants no part of your debauchery, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:59,
Reply)
haha
EDIT: maybe it's an example to their readership "beware readers, when you choose to be racist and bigoted, remember, DO YOUR HOMEWORK!"
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:01,
Reply)
Its a very misleading headline...
but a fun story nonetheless.
And the comments are worth a read too
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Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:37,
Reply)
Butter Face [NSFW]
NSFW
Collection of pictures of women who seem incredibly attractive - until you click and drag the censoring picture off her face...
Obviously not safe for work for scantily-clad-ladyness.
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Seventh is somewhat subdued, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:20,
Reply)
Hmmm, most of them were attractive ...
apart from that horse-faced cow from 'sex and the city' and a couple of others.
Does this mean I have low standards :D
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:26, Reply)
See I wouldnt always say attractive as such
but I wouldn't say many are as minging as was implied
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:47, Reply)
Yeah - I was expecting AphexTwin-like bokes.
i.d.com.com/i/lumiere/2005/08/23/1968-1968-20050823_095846-320x240.jpg
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cupboardy, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:09,
Reply)
Thumb Drive!
I made this!
I stuck a 4GB USB flashdrive in a stoneplaster cast of my right thumb. Worked surprisingly well.
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Tribs š¦ ↓ dn ŹÉŹ sį“É„Ź ↓š¦, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:10,
Reply)
have you tried cutting off your real meat thumb
and putting the usb stick in that? that would be REAL art.
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crab_bloke), Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:20,
Reply)
if he cut off his real meat thumb
and put the usb stick in the stump then he'd not have to worry about losing it, and could probably get quite a good job with the MoD.
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Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:24,
Reply)
As long as he can type with one hand....
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:22,
Reply)
THAT is a great idea!
you could use a prosthetic thum as the cover for it.
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crab_bloke), Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:38,
Reply)
A prosthetic Swiss Army thumb.
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Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 16:07,
Reply)
How about going down a different line ...
and using a pork pie or scotch egg as the covering for the USB stick ?
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:28, Reply)
A short history of World War II, in cartoon form
"And why don't you let Libya go, Great Britain?" "Because you're a wanker, Germany, and you know it."
Apologies if this has been up before.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:04, Reply)
Yep, that about covers everything :D
Flipping brilliant that was, Do you know who did it?
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The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:10,
Reply)
Says Angus McLeod in the header...
but my work PC won't let me load any more than that as deviantart is clearly pr0n.
FAIL.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:16, Reply)
I saw that too, I tried to get at the deviant art page but it wont let me?
and the google, it shows nothing...
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The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:20,
Reply)
poooooooop this sounds pretty funny, but i can't check devart from work because artful nudity is wrong!!
take note rubens...
can someone screencap and re-host? prefferably on b3tards?
PLEASEEE!?!?!
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:41,
Reply)
Try this
Though cr3's site is creaking right now:
www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/jpg/worldwartwosimpleversionbyangusmcleod.jpg
Failing that, I've upped it to my webspace:
b3ta.smarterthings.co.uk/World_War_Two__Simple_Version_by_AngusMcLeod.jpg
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DavyBoyInGravyJoy Grey Goose Vodka on Ice, nothing finer, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:29,
Reply)
haha
that's awesome!
also:
I live in sweden's cock!
(last frame of comic)
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The little pink animal is mostly harmless, except on, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:34,
Reply)
I didn't think the dinosaur sex website would be topped
but sure enough, ive just had a laugh, and all the gaps in my knowledge of WWII have been snuggly filled.
thanks for posting!
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 6:30, Reply)
Even without sound I can imagine the noise that would've made
ouch.
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M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:00,
Reply)
Being scared witless by the looks of things...
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The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:31,
Reply)
Puppies awwww
NSFW
*Edit. Contains cute puppies and something nasty.
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Crap Little Monkey Deathstar, so good they built it twice, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:31,
Reply)
NSFW fair enough
but no need to be rude like that
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Crap Little Monkey Deathstar, so good they built it twice, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:01,
Reply)
Sorry?
You take some shock-picture, put it on here, using a joke-caption and misleading and you take offence because I took offence?
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Frisbee OG wanker, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:09,
Reply)
Its no big deal tbh ...
A few cute puppies having something to eat ... that 'something' being a pigs head.
Its not exactly Rotten.com.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:08, Reply)
^this^
I mean, what do you think's in dog food, anyway?
Sure, bit gory, but I did actually find the puppies kinda cute.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:15, Reply)
ya
that ain't so bad, i guess.
i thought it'd be pigs eating puppies.
for some reason that'd be worse?
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:42, Reply)
High power laser
I made this!
200mw laser vs. mouse. Laser prevails.
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Bad Horsey Bring back Dr. Ubes Rub!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:23,
Reply)
Wouldn't the recording
laser of a minidisc beat that thing?
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Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:24,
Reply)
Nah
They only come in at around 75mw
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Bad Horsey Bring back Dr. Ubes Rub!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:27,
Reply)
Yeah but strong enough
to put a dot on the moon apparently
Although the scale I heard was 0.5ma (milliamps)
rather than the scale you're using there...
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Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:29,
Reply)
Reptilian Humanoids in Holland!
I wonder if The Goat can shed some light on the subject? I always thought old people were dodgy...
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Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:17,
Reply)
hahah
how else would those mature adult sites harvest their content?
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Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:10,
Reply)
meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeme
images.google.nl/images?hl=nl&q=disaster%20girl&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
but nice to find out finally where she started out!
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:48,
Reply)
her brother
media1.break.com/dnet/media/2009/1/38%20Kids%20are%20Evil.jpg
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frox, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 16:39,
Reply)
This Causes Cancer
I made this!
As per the newsletter, thiscausescancer.com, for all your "What's going to kill me?" needs.
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le brian, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:06,
Reply)
Spiffing stuff
And if "B3TA causes cancer" isn't the tagline of the next newsletter, I'll eat my hat.
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Bad Horsey Bring back Dr. Ubes Rub!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:11,
Reply)
B3TA causes Bad Horsey to eat his hat
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Crap Little Monkey Deathstar, so good they built it twice, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:29,
Reply)
Delta Ebonics
after listening to some Rinkadink, i wondered about the source of a sample
in one of his songs, and found this. it's funny, because it's borderline racist.
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djol, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:56,
Reply)
Don't know who made the video, but the song is DJ Yoda from How To Cut And Paste Vol.1.
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19 Oatcake gamier than ocelot and a welcome break from swan, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:10,
Reply)
I think it's from SNL
An old SNL. Yoda just sampled it. AS he does with many things :)
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Alabaster Codify wouldn't piss on yr gums if yr teeth were on fire, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 18:49,
Reply)
David after divorce
Another David after dentist parody, but it made me laugh.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:38, Reply)
I'm quite excited about a 'summer of rage'...
but there would have to be ice cream as well. Rage and ice cream. Yes.
Mr. Brooker on why we are all meaningless blobs in the eyes of 'the man'. Well argued and hilarious as always.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:09, Reply)
i thought that said "summer of rape" first time around...
i cannot tell you how dissapointed i am now...
EDIT: i must just say, i didn't bother looking at the link, i just put a stupid comment about rape and wandered off. i've now read it and....well, dont'know what to say. he's right, i'nt he?
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:23,
Reply)
Now that would be something worth giving up wanking for.
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Brandy_Bumwinkle, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:51,
Reply)
Prints
Sticks on wall.
Alas my own feeling is that if a "Summer of rage" did occur and if we did get regime change in the UK all that would happen is we'd replace the old cunts with new cunts.
"ave vaginas novus, Licet amo vaginas vetus"
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:34, Reply)
Politics would be great
were it nor for politicians
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applehead herp derp, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:39,
Reply)
Life would be great if we were allowed to get on with it
I am finally managing to live self sufficiently, growing my own veg, brewing my own very nice beer, earning a tiny amount of money for bills and mostly being massively happy.
You would not believe how much my quiet little lifestyle seems to enrage some people in local government, the tax office, and the police.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:46, Reply)
I'd hazard that it's more the masturbation that enrages them
than the self-sufficiency ;)
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applehead herp derp, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:58,
Reply)
only the public masturbation
don't see the problem with it myself, everyone does it, why hide it?
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:30, Reply)
Explain in more detail
precisely how it enrages them? I can see how it would annoy the taxman.
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M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:14,
Reply)
When you earn under the tax threshold, and are not on benefits or disability
that sure pisses them off. I'm under constant scrutiny to make sure I'm not earning extra on the side, they just can't believe that I'm living a happy life on so little money.
Fairly soon there'll be the "pitter patter of tiny feet" and then I'm sure we'll start enraging social services as well.
Seems the whole establishment can't stand if when you refuse to fulfil your function as a cog in the capitalist machine.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:19, Reply)
But the police?
unless you sell the homebrew!
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M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:23,
Reply)
well to be honest these days it seems like the police are enraged with everyone
but my own experiences aren't great, and that's just because I went to them as the victim of crime, but when they found out my lifestyle they decided to put me under the microscope and make assumptions that I was a lawbreaker until I proved otherwise.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:26, Reply)
Not worth posting in a new thread but this whole conversation reminded of this too.
www.noliberties.com/index.htm
I saw it the cinema a year and a half ago - very good documentary detailing exactly how we were systematically dicked from all sides leading up to the Iraq war, if you're interested.
-"Right to Protest, Right to Freedom of Speech. Right to Privacy. Right not to be detained without charge, Innocent Until Proven Guilty. Prohibition from Torture. TAKING LIBERTIES will reveal how these six central pillars of liberty have been systematically destroyed by New Labour, and the freedoms of the British people stolen from under their noses amidst a climate of fear created by the media and government itself."
However, who else do we have? I don't think the first time I get to vote could be for tories. I would feel eternally dirty.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:35, Reply)
watch the old movie Passport to Pimlico
That gives me ideas, I'd like to declare myself independent from the UK.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:38, Reply)
We need to get the following to form a coalition government
ā¢Patrick Moore
ā¢David Attenborough
ā¢Charlie Brooker
any others you'd like to see on the front bench?
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applehead herp derp, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:40,
Reply)
Martin Lewis - Chancellor
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The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:42,
Reply)
Hell no, the guy is a maniac
good for tv explanation, but no good in the real world, he's not even a building designer by trade
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The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:48,
Reply)
Can Abu Hamza please
be minister for racial integration or something?
Just for shits and giggles obviously :D
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:04,
Reply)
Can we get Ben Yahtzee Croshaw
reverse deported? Or maybe he could be remotely in charge of things, I can agree with him a lot more when I can't see his face.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:59, Reply)
What would he do?
Apart from reviewing games, having a sharp hat and a funky sense of humour, what part of britain could he actually run?
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H.B.Mupps, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 15:42,
Reply)
Dunno
I tend to vote for people that amuse me and that I don't massively disagree with rather than people who could actually run a country capably. This has got me into trouble before. This is why a plastic bird in a top hat that nods as if drinking from a glass of water is currently my local MP.
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 9:56, Reply)
^what he said^
he's such a dick. He's got no training and when he tried to dip his toes in real building, he fucked it all up (ala here).
I enjoy Grand Designs but when he presents the Stirling Prize you can almost feel the room throwing him daggers.
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thiswasmyclone, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:59,
Reply)
Lets do it.
It's a about time we actually did something useful as well as giggling at kittens. Viva La Revolution b3ta!
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:00, Reply)
haha we're gonna need to work hard to get a joint manifesto together,
otherwise it'll just end up like this...
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:55,
Reply)
I think we have enough like minded indivudals
to come up with something halfway decent. I'd love baffling the general public by presenting a manifesto that was not only politically viable but also peppered with b3ta memes and in-jokes.
*glee*
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:06, Reply)
I read the article, but I found it a bit upsetting :(
So I'm going to pretend that it was about a new Streets of Rage sequel instead.
STREETS OF RAGE IV: SUMMER OF RAGE
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 13:48, Reply)
Jesus Christ sponge
lame, but still amusing.
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LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:01,
Reply)
hahaha
"Wipe your feet and stick it down your friend's pants." real lols
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:24,
Reply)
Jaboody dubs better
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bDPAOuizsQ
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Peach Motorbike I hate the cut of your jib, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:00,
Reply)
HP ScanJet 5P Easter Egg, Ode to Joy
Seeing the printer link on the "popular links" page reminded me of this rather excellent Easter Egg hidden on all HP ScanJet 5P machines.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 10:34, Reply)
I have that exact model hidden in the loft
how do I make this glorious miracle occur??
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 10:37, Reply)
I'll be too busy puking the bushel of creme eggs I eat every easter morning
can't I get a dispensation?
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 10:49, Reply)
It says so on the Youtube description:
-Turn off the scanner
-Rotate the SCSI ID selector to select ID 0
-Press and hold the green button
-Turn on the scanner
5. When the light comes on, you can release the button
After this the scanner will release it's inner creativity and play you the Ode to Joy on its stepper motor
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..wil, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 19:25,
Reply)
Who will be doing this on Friday?
B3ta's very own Scaryduck will be sitting in a darkened room on Friday and thinking about ladies large norks in the hope of achieving something magical and Gelleresque.
Will you?
*Please note, I'm not getting paid for this, I just found this funny and interesting so I've posted it.*
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chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 10:18,
Reply)
haha
'It is a proven scientific fact that thinking about something often causes it to happen. Some call this quantum physics. Others simply call it "faith."' come again??
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Brandy_Bumwinkle, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 10:21,
Reply)
It appears that allot of "scientists"
don't like Quantum Physics. I've noticed this quite allot lately,
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc
Check that out. This experiment suggests that if you observe something happening then it can change the outcome, so some people are taking that it means that you can't perform scientific analysis of everything. Which of course doesn't really make much sense...
I'm sure I've missed allot out but this is one of the main causes for argument.
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Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:46,
Reply)
That's the whole premise
of Shcroedingers cat isn't it?
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:19,
Reply)
I'm going to give this a shot
and take the next step of evolution
*starts now... NORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKSNORKS be at one with the norks*
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Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:38,
Reply)
I get that newsletter as well
and just thought "it's not really worth that hassle for a free Ā£20" which is probably why I'll never be rich.
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magnum, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 9:37,
Reply)
aye i usually ignore it
its quite a quick process. will have to wait and see how it turns out. basically you fill in an online form and send out a freepost cheque.
i suspect however the "get in quick before the loophole closes" is just marketing gimmick like that threshers offer they did a while back.
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connor, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 9:42,
Reply)
"offer is now closed"
oh well...
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Just Juan Cornetto will take you to the lo-rider show n' flaunt ya on, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:28,
Reply)
What if God disappeared?
This guy's videos are ace. Very subtle, and very funny.
And, yes, it's more one-trick atheist pony stuff from me. I'll try to find something else at some point. Promise.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 9:29,
Reply)
...
Becasue all I seem to post at the moment is atheist stuff.
Oh, well.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 9:49,
Reply)
oh, ok.....
Post more kittens. But don't judge teh kittens, they do not know either way about teh jebus.
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Kung_Fu_Russ ran out of amusing signatures on, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 9:52,
Reply)
If
they don't know Jesus then they can't have accepted Him into their hearts.
So they go to Hell. And burn.
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 10:17,
Reply)
Yeah, fuck the kittins.
I can haz eternal tortur plz?
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Brandy_Bumwinkle, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 10:32,
Reply)
urg
all this atheists vs fundamentalists stuff causes me physical pain (mostly through violent self abuse)...
Just because I find fundamentalists hypocritical, distatesful and frankly barking mad doesn't lead logically to me having to say God doesn't exist.
The one extreme is a bunch of cunts saying "Do what I say because God is on my side" While it seems to me most atheists seems to imply with every word they spout "I'm too clever to believe in God, so do what I say (because I am the smartest being in the universe)".
Seems like both sides are playing to the same end: the enslavement of their neighbours.
Shit, have I just had a 'Goat Moment'?
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 10:47, Reply)
i think you've just had a flange moment...
i was trying to put the same idea across yesteday. then i realised that if really didn't care i wouldn't have posted in the first place.
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 10:58,
Reply)
i don't think that it's an 'I'm too clever' attitude, it's just that most atheists argue that logic and reasoning are the key to disproving religion. Therefore every pro-atheism video WILL come off as smart arsed.
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Kung_Fu_Russ ran out of amusing signatures on, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:10,
Reply)
well thats my major problem with atheism
at its root it seems to be entirely based on a lack of humility. Atheists I meet, and most exemplified by Dawkins, tend to have a hugely inflated Idea of their own omni-cognisance, and totally fail to acknowledge the fact that human beings, themselves included, still have far more to learn than they have thus far achieved.
Logic and reason have brought us Nuclear Proliferation, Global Warming, and the Credit Crunch, each of these caused by some of the smartest people on the planet.
Logically then perhaps instead of choosing not to believe in God we would be better off not believing in People?
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:19, Reply)
" totally fail to acknowledge the fact that human beings, themselves included, still have far more to learn than they have thus far achieved."
I disagree with this statement. Atheists DO acknowledge that there is unimaginable amounts of things that humans do not understand.
I would argue that it is religious people who claim to know everything. They 'know there is a god', and they consider this to be the truth, which is known, end of story. An atheist should never rule out the possibility of there being a god entirely, but does not believe that it should be an assumed (and pretty much assumed without a shred of evidence) fact on which we base our lives.
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Kung_Fu_Russ ran out of amusing signatures on, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:27,
Reply)
Except they don't know it.
Knowledge is justified, true belief. They have the belief, but the justification is lacking and the truth is unlikely...
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:29,
Reply)
ok, i like what you've said
but would you acknowledge that in the past Science, Logic and Reason have all made massive errors as well?
I would put it that where on past history science has been demonstrated to be less than 100% truth, hailing it as a replacement for God is a little premature.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:49, Reply)
Of course there've been mistakes.
However, that's part and parcel of science. What survives, though, is the intellectual parsimony, and that's worth keeping.
There is no evidence at all that points to the existence of a deity. There is no evidence at all for some non-religious beliefs. However, that doesn't mean that science and religion are on a par.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:59,
Reply)
There's certainly no empirical evidence, I'll grant you
but plenty of people, myself included, claim experiential evidence. And that I'd say is the nub of the whole issue. And if you can resolve that conflict then I'd pin the medal on you myself.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:16, Reply)
I think perhaps were arguing the same side here, let me clear it up a bit
Fundamentalists are cunts because they are arrogantly believing that their knowledge is the only knowledge and everyone else is wrong.
I believe the same of atheists, and atheists who belittle those who believe in God are double cunts.
In my book, the only category of "Not-Cunts" are those who are always prepared to accept that what they believe may not be 100% correct, and acknowledge the validity of other beliefs.
Personally I believe in God: both as an explanation of fortuitous events in my life that I otherwise am unable to explain, and because I a happier existing with the belief in God than not. Alas my own modest little set of beliefs is under attach from cunts from both directions; Both of whom seems to find my believing something different to them is offensive to them personally and also some kind of act of defiance against either their superiority of faith or intellect.
Fundamentalist Christians and Fundamentalist Atheists all seem to have an agenda of thought control of their neighbours.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:44, Reply)
...
Logic and reason have brought us Nuclear Proliferation, Global Warming, and the Credit Crunch, each of these caused by some of the smartest people on the planet.
That's a really, really poor argument. Noone intended for any of those things to happen. Nor is anyone claiming that the alternative to belief in god is a belief that humanity is flawless.
Even Dawkins does not say outright that god does not exist. His claim is simply that the existence of a deity is hugely unlikely, and that there is no evidence for it. We're much better off not believing in him for reasons of metaphysical good taste. Moreover, naturalistic science can offer an explanation of the world that's much more metaphysically parsimonious and complete. So we have a reason to adopt naturalistic science.
Give a compelling argument the other way, and science ought to adop it, just because it is not based on a predetermined picture of the universe.
Moreover, your claim belies a value-intoxicated view of the world. Nuclear proliferation, global warming and so on are arguably bad from a human point of view, but it follows from that neither that they are bad, or that they are wrong.
What do you mean by believing in people? I simply can't make sense of that.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:35,
Reply)
Don't feign a lack of comprehention as a disputational gambit with me boyo ;)
Of course my closing remark was sophistry and we could play the game of poking holes at each other all day long (and I think we'd both enjoy it).
We're discussing a whole area that has been hotly debated by plenty of folks cleverer than us (an likely a lot more less so) for most of history without resolution.
My motivation in jumping in at all was to point out how this whole area of debate is polarising, as it seems to be with us here now. I consider myself a moderate, but can you see how in discussing it I am being pushed to either agree with you entirely, or to fall to countering your Scientific certainties with certainties of Faith.
Surely as the only outcome of taking an extreme view on either side is conflict. And while here today its just a bit of stimulating fun (I hope) for both of us, There are plenty who are more emotionally invested in their position that each conflict escalates from flaming on message boards through advertisements on buses until we reach a point where we are burning down churches and bombing science labs.
Who wins then? (well, if you are a bit Goatish, then the Rich White Elite win.)
As for me, I think of myself as a Fundamental Moderate: I believe that we all have a duty to defend the rights of our neighbours, even when they are are being dicks, as long as what they are doing does not hurt anyone else. This of course means that I get hit from both sides, from Atheists the accusation that I am illogical, and that my beliefs hurt progress, tomorrow I may get into a dispute with a fundamentalist Christian who will tell me I'm a sinner and will burn. Hey Ho.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:11, Reply)
that's possibly the best answer i've read so far in one of these B3ta /links theological arguments.
well done sah!
*doffs cap*
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:51,
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yep, ^^this^^
but religious peeps will argue (rightly IMO) that their faith is enough proof of gods existance, and so both sides will never believe the others reasoning, and everyone'll go round and round in circles untill we eventually end up coming to blows over it and eventually killing one another.....oh...oh dear.
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:21,
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with all due respect, 'faith' is not even an argument. I have faith and believe that my penis is 12 inches long. Therefore it is. The end. I win.
Absolute nonsense.....
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Kung_Fu_Russ ran out of amusing signatures on, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:41,
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oi, i'm not saying i agree with their faith. i agree with their right to their faith, and their right to belief that their faith is enough proof.
what i agree with is that it only matters to yourself. if you have faith in your 12" cock then congrats. i may not believe it but that's my prerogative, as it is yours to believe it.
i have faith that i'm a nice guy, i have faith that my views are correct. that's why i don't like to scream and shout about my dis-belief in other peoples views.
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:47,
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Nope.
There's no right to faith.
A belief can be false, and a right to faith would imply that it'd be wrong to have a false belief corrected. And that's just absurd.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:01,
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to be honest my brain's just blown a fuse trying to understand this reply.
therefore i offer cake and walk away, content in the knowledge that what's inside my head (which i'm not gonna share with any of you) is the only true way to live your life, and the only belief worthy of wasting your time on.
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:09,
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While I like what you've said
If you don't fight for your and everyone else's right to intellectual and religious freedom then someone else will fight for the power to tell you what to believe, either atheism or fundamentalism, and if you don't acquiesce then they will punish and/or enslave you.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:24, Reply)
that's why i wanna get as far away from it all as poss, hopefully settling somewhere on a tiny island that no cunt'll bother with.
anything to be able to do what i want without harming/bothering others or being harmed/bothered myself.
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:44,
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you like, if you've not already read it
How to be Free
by Tom Hodgkinson
Lots of nice ideas, alas a few practical flaws to my cynical mind.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:59, Reply)
So tell me
What sanctions would you resort to if someone persistently held a belief you believed was false?
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:29, Reply)
haha
I believe I can have my cake AND eat it, contrary to the popular saying, I have visited the bakery successfully many times.
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Brandy_Bumwinkle, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:54,
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What utter moronic bollocks.
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:26,
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Hmm....An interesting point, and articulated in an original and engaging way.
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Kung_Fu_Russ ran out of amusing signatures on, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 14:36,
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The dude is kind of smug.
Some atheists make me wish there was a god. Maybe one day they'll be a day of judgement, and it'll turn out there was some sort of illogical higher deity/ies that respond to worship, but they were only worshipped by an unpopular cult that died out three thousand years ago. That way we're all wrong.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:56, Reply)
Oooooh politics! But seriously, take a look at this please...
I made this!
Warning. This post will not be amusing or funny, contains lots and lots of words, and is of a political bias. It did however come from an earlier post from /links so it's only fitting it should come back here!
Still with me? Good. Gather round, lads and lasses, and Iāll tell ye a taleā¦
It all started with www.this post on /links. I read this on a Saturday morning, I was a little hung over and cranky, so I thought āyeah why not?ā, and went off to the ASA website to have a whinge about it.
Thought nothing more of it tbh. Time passed, the world moved on, and then out of the blue appeared this letter in reply
Now, donāt get me wrong ā I am not at all displeased with the ASA. The letter demonstrates that my petulant outburst was handled individually, and given full and proper consideration. Far more than it was due if Iām being honest. Full props to the nice people at ASA who dealt with this, and in my part I am sorry for taking up a small but significant portion of your valuable life.
However, there was a part of the letter that stuck in my throat somewhat. āWeāre unable to investigate complaints about advertising which aims to influence voters in elections or referendumsā.
It references their code, so I duly trotted off to their website once more to look that up. Itās pretty wordy, but in essence sets out a range or parameters by which they ensure that advertisers remain within reasonable bounds of such potentially outmoded concepts as truthfulness and substantiation. Clause 12.1, which the ASA reference in their letter, is:
āAny advertisement or direct marketing communication, whenever published or distributed, whose principal function is to influence voters in local, regional, national or international elections or referendums is exempt from the Code.ā
What? So political organisations are allowed to say whatever they like, and the ASA canāt touch them? This had me stomping off to the Electoral Commissionās website in a fit of righteous indignation to find out more about this. Turns out that up until 1999, political parties were bound by this code, but that after the 1997 election the exemption was made, leaving precious little safeguard in place to ensure that political parties are anywhere near the truth in what they advertise.
It wasnāt until 2004 that the Electoral Commission published a report on the introduction of a code on political advertising - here if anyone can really be arsed - which totally recognises the value of a code governing political advertising, but points out that it will be difficult to implement. Largely because most of the political parties would just stick two fingers up at it. Incidentally, the Lib Dems say they would support the code, which, these days, generally indicates that it is a sound but unpopular idea.
Just because somethingās difficult to implement doesnāt mean it isnāt worth trying. As far as I can see there is absolutely nothing other than woolly exhortations to play nice, that compels our political parties to be truthful or to be able to back up anything they say. NaĆÆve as my position may be, I think this is not acceptable.
So, given the proven and foolproof effectiveness of online petitions at attracting the attention of and influencing decision makers, I have set up a petition asking for the removal of clause 12.1 from the ASAās Code. I would be grateful if fellow b3tans could add their voices to my impotent online raging and even, should your views in any way mirror mine on this matter, circulate this plea round your friends, networks or general online ranting forums.
Once more - petitions.number10.gov.uk/CAPClause12-1/
There it is. Told you it wouldnāt be amusing or funny. But itās given me a fairly thought-provoking morningās research, and a faintly Mark Thomas-esque buzz of righteous indignation, and as I said to begin with, it originated from here, so you can have it back ;)
/goat
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 9:26,
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It's posted in the full knowledge that it will come to no avail...
but there is process there so I might as well make use of it, and I like to do these things from time to time just to see how far they get...
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 9:29,
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I'll certainly play this game.
And kudos for a well written argument.
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Ttssattsr, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 9:38,
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Why thank you...
I've been seething over it for 10 days while I waited for no.10 to approve the petition, so it's been through a couple of drafts ;)
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 9:45,
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Thing is barry
If parties are given free rein to fill their ads with spurious and unsubstantiated claims their efforts
will be shredded by a far worse threat than the ASA - a ravenous 24-hr media.
I say leave it. Let's see just how far they want to push the envelope. Elections swing on such dismal campaign strategies.
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Bela Lugosi's Dad, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 9:43,
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Good point, well put...
but it's the principle of the exemption that sticks in my teeth, rather than any practicalities of it.
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 9:46,
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The 'New Labour new danger' posters
spring to mind, the one with shadowy demon eyes across a ripped photo of Blair, propaganda at its best.
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Brandy_Bumwinkle, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 10:07,
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:01,
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Well you can't say you weren't warned...
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:23,
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i've read it now, i must say i almost gave up after reading that fucking twoddle over the bus ad arguments, i thought you were ranting about something along those lines..
fair point you make, and i'm inclined to agree, i am however exempt as i left the UK in a fit of pique and currently reside in the Netherlands. good luck!
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:28,
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Send me an ounce of White Rhino!
PO Box stoner, uk :)
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Brandy_Bumwinkle, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 11:51,
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bwahaha
gladly, cept you're only allowed to buy maximum 5 grams at a time from any one shop, so it'll take me while to gather an ounce...
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Just Flange, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 12:15,
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