
no knowledge of Italian necessary
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:22, Reply)

but otherwise that was amazing!
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:35, Reply)

suspect just telling her she would be blown to atoms
he never counted on Dick Smart and his prototype vespa
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:51, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 22:19, Reply)

What in the sweet jesus is going on though?
( , Sat 21 Jul 2012, 7:26, Reply)

Tom Cruise in tighty whiteys has a heart to heart with Suri.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:14, Reply)

I just remember him toadying to the royal family.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:12, Reply)

Reading news at ten and toadying to the royal family are fairly interchangeable
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:15, Reply)

Don't normally link their shit, but this is well funky.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:39, Reply)

This one's for you fans of physics and casual racism. And cheap games.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:24, Reply)

I'm not sure about that, but apparently "black hole" is!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc1zGRUPztc
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:59, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:18, Reply)

... the little twats. That's just down the road from me, every night I hear them revving & screeching their uninsured shite-heaps around the streets. Waste of skin, the lot of them.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:41, Reply)

On a busy narrow street with parked cars in your modified frontwheel drive crapheap, what could go wrong?
Hope he gets done for dangerous driving.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:12, Reply)

Started out looking for something else but this is better. I think it has aged well.
Contains some rambling, but no nakedness.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:14, Reply)

that could lead to this being 'better'?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:18, Reply)

but drinking and smoking quite heavily so all is beginning to seem well with the world
Not even looked on here for days. I almost feel I should get a letter from me mum. Did I miss owt important?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:14, Reply)

Hope it's going well?
I've not been here much either, it's all been a bit shouty and that when I have popped my head round the door, so I have been backing out slowly and creeping away and having a nice cup of tea instead.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:22, Reply)

Oh bollocks. Maybe the weekend and some sun will restore equilibrium
Off out for more beer now - have a good Friday :)
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:27, Reply)

That was the exact Strawberry Switchblade track I was looking for.
I'm sure you will like this one www.youtube.com/watch?v=teHqHmnXnhE
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 22:27, Reply)

Hahahahahah! I had SUCH a thing for Green.
This was always my favourite
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF8UTf-OFT4
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 22:43, Reply)

I went to school with someone who looked like (or tried to look like) him. I hope he got over it!
Do you remember this one? www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrKtrIxn4XU&feature=related
Better with the sound off.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 23:05, Reply)

Studies indicate this is the most relaxing song ever.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:43, Reply)

[Edit] Just noticed Enya is No. 4 in the 10 most relaxing tunes ever. *Shudders*
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:48, Reply)

sail away
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:53, Reply)

There, I've said it, I just don't care if the kids think I'm not 'in' anymore.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:06, Reply)

it's not soothing but it makes me smile and helps me forget any anxieties so that's relaxing eh? www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVqAdIMQZlk
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:52, Reply)

Blah blah blah, dum de do.....ooh trumpets! bang the steering wheel!.....blah blah blah, two minutes to the trumpet bit again...yey! Trumpets!
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:04, Reply)

though i like the rest too. the mmm mmm bits i like too! i'm grinning like a bastard as i listen/type.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:07, Reply)

Just find the rest of the song dull. Maybe I'm just the impatient type.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:09, Reply)

Do you think they are miming?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YON4IhXD0yM
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:13, Reply)

I invented it to help me sleep.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:53, Reply)

oh those were the days.
It involved white noise, and a square wave "heartbeat" roughly once a second.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:05, Reply)

Goddam people trying to make me relax PISSES ME OFF.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:01, Reply)

Then have a wank and chill.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:02, Reply)

I usually have a wank while I'm fucking people up big style. Then I relax by driving into hydrants until the engine block drops and wank again.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:08, Reply)

youtu.be/pJ-xAYOJQIc (esp. when the beats come in)
I used to love this. Though I don't like Cranes.
Has anyone noticed that youtube's adding fake tv interference when it loses the signal?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:14, Reply)

Breeders - Off You
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz2jFcc5bR4
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:24, Reply)

yeah, I know... KaC... probably GC as fuck as well but preview said no
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:09, Reply)

you can try to think of it as a video of a kitten smashing its face off a camera.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:24, Reply)

Horseplay was EXCELLENT too.
(ALSO: "KaC")
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:25, Reply)

did you have fun playing with all the lovely skinheads on the edl march?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:28, Reply)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! to. to. to. fuck. i did that twice yesterday too.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:42, Reply)

Though it did tickle me that most of them dress more gay than all the blokes at Pride.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:46, Reply)

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:06, Reply)

Go down the waterfront on a weekend and its choc full of hartcliffe boys with bleached gelled hair and tight pink t-shirts, totally after some drunken vagina. Weird.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:08, Reply)

and took a fair bit of stick for it then suddenly the same knd of cunts that hassled me were all pastel pinked up to fuck. cunts. :D
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:10, Reply)

no it was mostly a faded pastel pink vest and baggy yellow trousers. i looked like a wrong 'un. i was.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:32, Reply)

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Flump_%28blue%29.jpg
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:18, Reply)

'cos he loves you, and wants to finger your hole.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:10, Reply)

I hear he gives out on the first date and everything.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:23, Reply)

Enough with all your talk about peens and guns, here is something useful.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:39, Reply)

and subvert the technology for more fun activities
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:47, Reply)

I prefer Howard's one, it's got a tongue
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:49, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:10, Reply)

Twenty Twelve, much hummus
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:37, Reply)

Its fantastic.
New Thick of it in the autumn also:D
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:38, Reply)

* hopes you dont mind
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:43, Reply)

I had some sympathy for him but, thinking about it, he's an idiot.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:52, Reply)

I'm on his side, frankly I think it's absurd that my tax money has been spent hassling him and putting him up in free accommodation, just in case someone might see his willy.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:00, Reply)

he should be allowed to wave his cock in whoever's faces he chooses?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:06, Reply)

it's a strange image, I admit.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:07, Reply)

he'll have upset someone who wasn't wanting to see his bollocks
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:10, Reply)

it's just bollocks. Anyone who gets upset at the mere sight of a testicle needs to grow up. Unless he's doing some harm to someone he can dress as he likes, or not.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:13, Reply)

will I start finding the sight of bare ankles indecent as well?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:20, Reply)

would you really want to get the tube with a load of naked men with semis?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:27, Reply)

so it's all about social norms, is it. should the law uphold all social norms?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:30, Reply)

if not the current (well probably slightly out of date what with the slow pace of legislative change) social norms codified into a set of rules for people to follow?
hence men fucking one another in the bumhole being previously illegal but now legal. or a gentleman beating/raping ones wife being once legal but now illegal.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:36, Reply)

and those other things?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:37, Reply)

Or, let me put this another way, is this what you say, that if society at large is homophobic, that homophobia should be enshrined in law? And sexism, and misogyny and racism, all those other things that we're glad aren't tolerated anymore.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:43, Reply)

i've been socialised into THE CURRENT SOCIAL NORM so i would think that wouldn't i?
edit:ooft on my spelling.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:46, Reply)

Jeepers mister.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:14, Reply)

That is why we have laws with terms like "public indecency". The idea of what is indecent is constantly changing and this way a good judge can interpret the law in tune with current values.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:41, Reply)

as social norms do. possibly partly cos of activism of teh naked ramblers type of activism.
i'm not arguing that wearing clothes is right or wrong, just that it's a social norm and if you deviate from a social norm you will often be breaking the law and should expect the consequences. the naked rambler does expect it. i think he has a better handle on the situation than moon girl.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:42, Reply)

but I do not believe that the purpose of the law is to uphold conformity to social norms, it is to protect vulnerable people from harm.
I don't believe that wandering around naked is wrong or that it does anybody any harm and I fully support anyone's right to do it if they wish. If society has a problem with that, society has to justify it.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:47, Reply)

I think I agree with this man
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Dworkin
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:47, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:03, Reply)

I got the Wikipedia article on Law but I clicked through some links.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:08, Reply)

what a surprise.
look i'm not a super mainstream person and i think that a naked dude isn;t doing me any harm but i'm not everyone and it seems like the general consensus (in society rather than on b3ta) is that people ought to keep their clothes on. are you able to see that?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:14, Reply)

the definition is:
Law is a system of rules and guidelines which are enforced through social institutions to govern behavior.[3] Laws are made by governments, specifically by their legislatures. The formation of laws themselves may be influenced by a constitution (written or unwritten) and the rights encoded therein. The law shapes politics, economics and society in countless ways and serves as a social mediator of relations between people.
Nowhere is law defined as "social norms", do point me to the paragraph you are referring to. I hope you aren't misunderstanding the term "normative". If you look that up you will get back to Dworkin again.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:24, Reply)

with the law then they should just break it anyway, rather than campaign to change it?
There are plenty of naturist places to go if you want to walk around in the nip. This guy is just an attention seeking moron.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:59, Reply)

Well it depends on the law, I think. There are some things that the law, to my mind, simply has no right to forbid. I've spoken to plenty of people who take this line on recreational drugs, in fact I've had these conversations on B3ta.
Maybe there should be a campaign to change it, because it's a silly law, but it's also a fairly trivial issue that not many people care about, I guess.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:16, Reply)

On the tube he should probably wear clothes. On Bodmin Moor, I'd probably leave him to it.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:50, Reply)

if it was me i'd leave him to it on the tube too but i'm not everyone and i have to respect other people's views. anything for the quiet life.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:59, Reply)

Edit: "This" refers to HappyToast
Freedoms always have to be tempered with not infringing on the freedoms of others.
I could argue that I was born with the free-will and capacity to make my living by killing others and taking their food. It is only natural, but I don't think society would allow me my basic freedom. Poor me.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:15, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:23, Reply)

You're an idiot with stupid opinions.
EDIT: Thankyou to all those who have clicked this comment. I no longer feel alone.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:39, Reply)

...have you noticed that certain (well-loved) regular /linkers have stopped posting? About the same time this FUCKING IDIOT started clogging up the board?
Sadly, the two facts are related.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:53, Reply)

I shall willingly retire.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:06, Reply)

I would post whatever my opinion of you is. I've just been working hard, what with being on the game and working 9-5 and all...
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:23, Reply)

Therefore I shall be putting you on ignore for the sake of my mental health.
Please try not to start any interesting threads that people I like to talk with may be involved in.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:31, Reply)

but what have I done? I haven't swore, I haven't called people names, I'm not aware of even saying anything especially controversial. Seriously, I don't get it.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:36, Reply)

Plus you get the board's sympathy, what with the whole unfortunate size of your penis. As previously discovered.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:16, Reply)

but really?? Someone else has different opinions to you and abuse is the path you choose?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:24, Reply)

sorry i couldn't resist. i shouldn't post pissed.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:38, Reply)

she's clogging up the board with (to quote from others) nonsensical, contradictory, deliberately argumentative, sub-sixth form bollocks. She's not nearly as intelligent as she imagines herself to be, and people who actually have interesting & coherent opinions are avoiding /links 'cos they're sick of her shit.
...it's not "different opinions"- Coxxy & I disagree on virtually everything, but it's always a pleasure to read his posts, however MASSIVELY I may disagree.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:44, Reply)

To air one´s opinions, stupid or otherwise.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:05, Reply)

Needlessly provoking arguments based on logic worthy of a 6th form sociology student, is another.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:58, Reply)

that so many people here think that walking around outdoors with no clothes on shouldn't be tolerated, and if you can point me at whichever post explains why I'll be very grateful. All I've taken from this whole argument is that social nonconformity simply won't do.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:03, Reply)

It´s a device to prevent you from seeing other people´s point of view.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:26, Reply)

A law drawn up by an elected body that represents a majority of the population.
Why is it so hard to understand that an apparent majority of people have a different opinion than yours?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:24, Reply)

I just never expected this degree of authoritarianism from here, of all places.
I don't know how big a majority of people think that nudity is so bad it has to be illegal, but why is it so hard for you to understand that I think it shouldn't be until somebody tells me the reason why.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:30, Reply)

Are you really so deluded that you feel no law should be valid until *you* agree with it?
Maybe mrandrist has point.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:33, Reply)

no. Maybe I'm deluded enough to think that dissent was socially acceptable in this country. I don't have to agree with the law just because the majority do, do I?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:39, Reply)

There's a whole bunch of laws I disagree with but follow because they are the law, but I'd be deeply worried if disagreeing with them became against the law, or seeking to persuade others to disagree.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:42, Reply)

It's illegal in certain places. Like smoking.
Where would you personally draw the line? Is public sex acceptable? What about having an accidental boner?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:42, Reply)

I'm glad you're here.
It's illegal in public places, I should have specified. Is public sex acceptable? Well I'll have to go and think about that, because it's not obvious why it isn't.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:47, Reply)

We can't stand YOU. I am totally okay with public nudity, lived with a naturist, happy to wander around in the nip: PEOPLE CAN'T STAND YOU. PLEASE FUCK OFF. AND THEN, FUCK OFF SOME MORE.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:52, Reply)

sorry. couldn't resist being a prick. btw i'm leaving the nursing register for a different register. ;)
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:04, Reply)

The comparison is with the attitude that someone's right to do as they please has to fit in with the demands of society. This applies to both.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:25, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:31, Reply)

hygiene issues in restaurants would be the main issue I imagine, would you sit in the same chair as a massively fat naked woman had just vacated?
Especially if she had just been on a really long walk across the countryside in hot weather
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:33, Reply)

and is it worth making it illegal? Plenty of places have dress codes without having to get the police involved. For a restaurant to have a "no naked" policy is one thing, for someone to actually get arrested for being naked outdoors, minding their own business, isn't that a bit much?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:36, Reply)

he's never "minding his own business"
if he were, other people wouldn't be getting him arrested.
Anyway, I'm cooking dinner now, byee!
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:40, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:48, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:12, Reply)

but agreement based on dispassionate discussion, not on ancient prejudices. The onus should be on lawmakers to give some reason why the thing being legislated against should not happen.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:23, Reply)

there would be a lot of vomit to clear up
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:36, Reply)

soldiers are allowed to kill people. as are executioners in nation states that have the death penalty. and swiss doctors.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:37, Reply)

soldiers can kill people, as can armed police.
perhaps you mean murder?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:11, Reply)

I feel you are splitting hairs here. I can also kill in self-defence if I get the angle just right. But you know, generally, I can't just go out and kill someone cos I feel like it.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:25, Reply)

but, where I live, they are banning people from wearing swimwear when not on the beach or at the pool. I think this is quite right. I wouldn't want someone like that sitting next to me in a restaurant.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:10, Reply)

wouldnt be out of place mentally would he?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:00, Reply)

Stop Racist Human Skin Phobia; formerly known as The Freedom To Be Yourself
stop-racist-human-skin-phobia.org/the-freedom-to-be-yourself.html
I think all they wear is a tin hat.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:16, Reply)

Just release him in the middle of winter into the middle of the highlands. Very quickly he would either change his "principles" or he wouldn't be an issue for the state anymore.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:21, Reply)

Interesting story: my old hairdresser lady at my local barbers, called Melanie, went with him for part of that trek he did a couple years ago. Imagine my surprise to see her naked in the paper one day [I did indeed drop my monocle]
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:38, Reply)

We only put on clothes in the first place for warmth, not for decency. everyone is naked under them. Reading through this thread I actually feel quite sad that so many of you actually think there is something shocking about seeing a naked man in public. If he walked down my high street and my kids asked me why he was naked I would tell them, I certainly won't bring them up to think that its something disgusting or wrong. In the UK there is no law against public nudity unless you are doing it to harass, alarm or distress others so I don't really see what his crime is.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 21:01, Reply)

...there was a mass naked bike ride through Bristol a few weeks ago. Didn't see anyone get arrested then. In fact I saw nothing but laughs and smiles from both participants and spectators.
Make of that what you will.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 22:55, Reply)

The important thing is that they are "events".
If someone throws a custard pie at me without my permission, they deserve to be treated like a cunt.
( , Sat 21 Jul 2012, 0:50, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 21:08, Reply)

As soon as I started playing it, i had to go out and get me a copy of the soundtrack. It makes any activity 1000x more heroic.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:57, Reply)

I love the credits track (gets going at 20s):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWVij6r4QBw
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:16, Reply)

Nice short film about very good quality brandy being made.
I wish my homebrew was anywhere near this good.
Also i'm not allowed a still and have to rely on fermentation only:(
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:50, Reply)

but my throat and stomach canna take it.
Any tips?
Edit: Interestingly Irish Whiskey is also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uisce_beatha
About the only good legacy of the Monks
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:07, Reply)

A few cubes of cheese are good for lining the stomach though.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:15, Reply)

Sadly, that might also mean paying quite a bit more.
I used to be a whisky rather than a brandy person, but two things helped me get my head around brandy - both as a result of doing one of those tourist tours of the Remy Martin distillery and getting a couple of free samples at the end. First: expensive brandy. Their XO is magnificent. Second, they served some of it from the freezer. There were people on the tour who normally wouldn't like brandy, but said that the ice-cold version was much more easier on the mouth. That might be your way in.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:15, Reply)

After spending a day walking round Auschwitz I had a head full of grim.
Determined get the thought of Nazis out of my head I decided to
find the most Jewish drink I could find.
A bottle of passover sliwowica 70% plum brandy did the job nicely.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:27, Reply)

I was in Poland years ago.
You are Schutzstaffel officer Amon Göth,
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:35, Reply)

the cheap armagnac I did in Paris that gutted my lining
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:29, Reply)

I get her to pick me up decent vodka, best so far is Beluga Noble Vodka. Smooth as a top quality sake, and sweeter than you'd expect. I think it tastes of strawberries but nobody agrees with me.
Very nice indeed
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:37, Reply)

joke, what's the Grey Goose like?
The one that the Canadians make?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:39, Reply)

b3ta user sik taught me how to drink neat vodka when we lived together. you just drink it. wince. repeat.
zubrowka is good. :D
i'm going to lift some embarrassingly small weights now so i can get on the daiquiris... chairman's reserve spiced just now as an experiemnt but back to the kraken next time. i love rum. so much. too much.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:40, Reply)

i discovered that a rum and coke, ice and lime without the coke but with a wee bit of sugar is a daiquiri. i nebver knew before. delicious but dangerous. :D
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:55, Reply)

Actually, whiskey n ginger (wine) is also lush.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:06, Reply)

kraken is cracking. i like barrs cola too. but yes a dark and stormy (rum and ginger) is pretty decent and a whisky mac is good until you've had 4 then it's too much.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:29, Reply)

Though honestly, darling; you haven't lived until you've had a few mojitos served in the old quarter of Havana.
I know, WHAT a wanker.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:56, Reply)

I don't think there's anything for you. I drink all my liquor straight because I believe that's how the Lord intended us to drink them, and I have never had a stomach issue. I do find that you can cut red wine nicely with brandy, however, for a little more kick that doesn't much alter the flavors...
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:35, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:37, Reply)

except for cask strngth stuff, that needs diluting.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:59, Reply)

I always try a single malt neat before I add water, but i nearly always decide it needs it.
Anything above 40% is pretty much guranteed to need watering down.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:18, Reply)

some Benedictine liqueur, about 60/40 or to taste. It sweetens and smooths, and still takes the top of your head off.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:50, Reply)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBEQuRLTe-A
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:45, Reply)

This link has been posted before by someone else and that is a terrible thing!
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:03, Reply)

Someone should kick the skater in the balls just to bring harmony to the universe.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:23, Reply)

If he's filming the skater, why is the skateboard out of shot so many times?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:30, Reply)

Thank goodness I did.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:58, Reply)

who uploaded this does realize that you can simply rewind the fucking video, right?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 20:11, Reply)

The 16-year-old Emily and Hannah Jagger Pound, no doubt, found one of the most original outfits. They appeared among former classmates in the form of Barbie dolls in boxes in full size. Truck, where the girls arrived at the venue of the prom, too, was appropriately decorated.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:23, Reply)

OMG, so why the parents let them make fools of themselves?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:28, Reply)

Technically, covering yourself in jelly and standing in a kids playground isn't illegal. It was the winkle-flash that got him, windmilling at the police didn't help mind.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:09, Reply)

....it was a trifle obscene!!!!!!!!!!!11111 *dies*
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:45, Reply)

I can't believe you deleted your two previous posts so I look like the one who's been on the cider all afternoon!
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:16, Reply)

Boglins. Forgot about them. Brilliant. I am now going to google, wikipedia and ebay the shit out of Boglins.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:45, Reply)

Fine, you will be. Notice, of others here, who may say SPAM, taken, should not be. Welcome, fun, I hope you have, too.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:42, Reply)

youtu.be/04cbvdiPyMQ
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:57, Reply)

spam a site then make a comment like you're someone else. cheeky.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:55, Reply)

This article pretty much sums it up regarding US opinion on these tragedies.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:01, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:08, Reply)

Despite disagreeing with his philosophy, he is quite knowledgeable on the topic, although some of his data sets are politically skewed. Personally, I want nothing to do with guns of any sort outside of Xbox...
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:12, Reply)

although I don't begrudge anyone wanting to shoot for sport. I'd rather do archery.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:14, Reply)

my family has long hunted, and my uncle and cousins have given up guns for archery because it's more challenging for them. My grandfather wanted to give us grandkids his guns before he kicks and I declined my share.I go archery target shooting with them on occasion.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:23, Reply)

you have to use a shotgun :(
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:25, Reply)

is that they find out that this guy played video games....They'll sooner ban Lego Batman, than construct some productive legislation on this...Please let him have a My Little Ponies collection, or an ant farm, or a toenail collection...anything but video games...
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:39, Reply)

over here it's obvious, we'd just vent it on the guns.
Still, I don't think legislation is the answer. Society has to change.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:45, Reply)

personally I feel the agenda here is not animal welfare - a clean kill with a firearm or air rifle is just as tricky as with a bow or crossbow - but snobbery: bow hunting is much more accessible than using a firearm, particularly for those with a limited income.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:49, Reply)

self sufficiency doesn't mean technophobic.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:06, Reply)

We were having a mass debate down there but I think everyones sated for the time being.
Anyway toodle pip i've got to wash my hair.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:09, Reply)

A spammer popped up and we all got our guns out.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:24, Reply)

And it's probably going to be about my mum again, isn't it :-(
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:55, Reply)

Was trying to say that it's happening over there not here thankfully.
However when I were a lad they didn't teach Cornish at schools so have to rely on internet phrase lists.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:07, Reply)

the important thing isn't gun control, or that people have died, or even the attempt to catch the perpetrators. It is that the cinema was showing Batman.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:14, Reply)

Tuesday's murder of the entire cast, crew and audience of Keith Lemon : The Movie only made page 23 of the Yorkshire Evening Post (and that's only because Leigh Francis was from Leeds).
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:55, Reply)

Now I feel all disappointed.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:10, Reply)

A nutter is a nutter, you can get machine guns in the post if you know where to look...
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:14, Reply)

Not that there aren't many other legal things in every house which could kill in the heat of the moment.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:18, Reply)

Fox News have been reporting lately that they are now using drones to patrol rural Nebraska to spy on ranchers.
Also they broadcast things like this in their commercial breaks:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPuQ9f9IwHI
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:20, Reply)

Listen to right-wing radio, which I do just to know what the nutjobs are up to, and you'll hear numerous commercials for this company:
www.foodinsurance.com/
Which shills emergency rations for the apocalypse that Obama's supposedly going to unleash in his second term. There's also some show on Disc or TLC or something that shows people installing ultimate bomb shelters. All of the yahoos live in rural parts of the reddest of red states...
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:26, Reply)

They'll never have gun control because it violates exactly that.
Even in the face of massacres such as this, being told what to do by the Government is still more terrifying to them.
'Tis the Libertarian way!
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:27, Reply)

Their freedom is given to them by the tit of Mcdonalds and the cock of Coke.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:32, Reply)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3fWTIpc16w
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:41, Reply)

(I lie, Citalopram is mother's little helper chez Joe)
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:20, Reply)

Or they just like shit food?
And guns?
And the freedom to have both even if it kills them?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:48, Reply)

and an irrational fear of anything that looks like socialism.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:54, Reply)

They seem to be scared of the word "socialism", but they didn't shoot that chap we saw in the clip the other day who stopped and changed that "muslim"'s tire for free, did they?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:48, Reply)

it's socialism when it's enforced by the government.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:51, Reply)

I've said it before on here, but just to get back on my soapbox with "socialist" health (Health just being a good example)...
Say we all got together and paid X each for a doctor to just look after each of us as needed, that is n*X monies going straight to our care.
If we pay X each to an insurance company, who pays a private company who pays a doctor, and each "broker" along the way takes a 20% cut, that is 0.8*0.8*n*X money. So either the doctor is paid 64% of what they would otherwise get, or it costs overall 36% more.
It is basically and fundamentally flawed and wasteful.
They are so scared of paying for what they see as "spongers" that they are willing to pay a third more money so as to not ever help anyone out.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:07, Reply)

if the right wingers are as Christian as they say they are I don't know why they don't fund healthcare voluntarily through some kind of state or national charity. If they were willing to solve the problem themselves the government wouldn't have to do it for them but they want their cake and stamp on it.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:14, Reply)

perhaps even more than a third. %age of gdp spent on health in the usa is 17.4, in the uk it's 9.8. plus we have wider access. well, we did until just recently. fucking tory cunts.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:07, Reply)

But then I remember that that'd mean seeing what his response is to this story.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:41, Reply)

I found myself getting too wound up by his right-wingery. So for the sake of trying to keep my b3ta entertaining, he became the second person I've ever put on ignore.
I have to say, it's largely worked a treat.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:00, Reply)

Again, that's political. I find his cartoons horribly complacent and bourgeois, centred as they seem to be on videogames and comics.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:22, Reply)

but I can talk to him, not to change his mind, but explore the arguement, seems a decent enough chap to me, ah well.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:28, Reply)

But he annoys me all the same, and I'm under no obligation to be annoyed.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:35, Reply)

Guns=good and safety for all. Period. Then he'll post a video of some elderly woman in a coffee shop who shot some kids stealing sugar packets. How being armed in a "dark" theater would help you evade the random bullets coming from a psycho who just threw down "smoke" bombs will be an interesting problem for him to tackle. We might not hear from him until he returns from his secret underground bunker where he bathes in the ashes of Charleton Heston...
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:49, Reply)

Denver has a Concealed Carry Ban, therefore, the Gunman knew that everyone was unarmed, so therefore felt free to carry out the crime, whereas if Denver didn't have this silly law, everyone could have been packin, and the Gunman would have thought twice!
Yes, this is the kind of bilge people will/do spout...
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:58, Reply)

www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/01/the-geography-of-gun-deaths/69354/
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:15, Reply)

it was fairly friendly. would you like it?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:21, Reply)

"Enzyme, sorry you have me on ignore. Believe it or not, I have championed many "left of center" causes in my profession and even campaigned for Tom Daschle (look him up - I can provide photos for proof). I've also defended indigent capital murder defendants. But you may continue to keep your biases."
i didn't realise coxxy was a lawyer. he seems so truthful.
seems... :D
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:30, Reply)

That's an automatic Ignore! Goddamnit, where's his last post?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:15, Reply)

maybe i picked it up wrong and he defended them with his gun?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:26, Reply)

He could have gazzed me. Ignore doesn't bar that.
But it's not a matter of bias, is it? It's simply a matter of not wanting to be aggravated. I have better things to do than engage in interminable debate with someone whose mind I probably wouldn't change anyway (I'm already 10 months overdue for a book deadline, and haven't even finished the first draft).
Hey ho. I'll probably take him off the list eventually...
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:24, Reply)

if only cos i can't be bothered with the hassle of disagreeing. :D
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:32, Reply)

that this massacre could have been avoided if more peeople had guns
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:51, Reply)

The knee jerk reaction is to ban all guns and try to create a sanitary world, where we all get to have a blankie, sit in our mother's lap and be cozy. The reality is that criminals will always have guns. I just am for making it a fair fight.
Enzyme, sorry you have me on ignore. Believe it or not, I have championed many "left of center" causes in my profession and even campaigned for Tom Daschle (look him up - I can provide photos for proof). I've also defended indigent capital murder defendants. But you may continue to keep your biases.
I do not put party or dogma over common sense however, and that seems to irk some partisans. I could care less what a person believes, I just want consistency. Many of my anti-war, anti-Guantanamo friends have gone dormant now that "their guy" is in office. They say they don't want to distract from his agenda, but if it's wrong, it's wrong.
Research NY city gun laws: the impetus was a gang lord tired of having his thugs having to face armed citizens when they were doing their extortion rounds.
There was a shooting in Paducah, Kentucky. Schools are a gun free zone, so the shooter was unhindered. What stopped him was a school worker who had a gun in his car and held him at bay until police came. The massacre could have been much worse.
I would prefer that no one assault, rob, push, shove, rape or stab anyone; those that do should not whine when their victims fight back.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:34, Reply)

isn't saying that we should not ban guns because of the positive example X when someone had a gun just as reactionary as saying we should ban then because of negative example Y? Anecdotes are not data.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:02, Reply)

The thinking is that individuals have the right to their own power, even at the risk of someone abusing it, and that a state monopoly on power is unacceptable even if the state is benevolent.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:07, Reply)

then it would help to, for example, have data that the slacker the gun laws of a country, the more / less / same homicides (obviously many other factors would need to be taken into account).
Saying "Someone stopped a crime with a gun" or "Someone did a crime with a gun" is meaningless.
Ideologies don't depend on data, no, but it does give them weight.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:14, Reply)

It is the "I don't know if I'm going to get killed if I burgle this house" thought process.
My understanding is that after the UK tightened its gun laws, "hot" burglaries increased significantly. Presumably, because people weren't afraid of the homeowner cappin' dey ass.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:21, Reply)

we've never had a culture of gun ownership. Hardly anyone owns a gun. Even the police don't normally carry them. Crime rates have consistently gone down for decades.
From what I can tell from dodgy internet statistics, the rate of civilian gun ownership seems to be rather an irrelevant factor in the amount of crime and deaths by shooting.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:26, Reply)

Do you have a link to those studies?
My personal belief is that gun law makes very little difference - there are so many other ways to kill people.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:34, Reply)

you could get hold of a cheap SUV and drive it into a school playing field while the kids are out to play, or mount the pavement of a busy shopping street. A car is potentially a very dangerous weapon if you just want to kill a bunch of people.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:37, Reply)

but the theory is that if everyone has power a sort of stable equilibrium is reached by individuals protecting themselves and each other. It doesn't necessarily matter that the equilibrium has more shootings than the state-controlled society, because the principle of freedom also has intrinsic value, which is difficult to quantify.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:22, Reply)

then you need data, right? Otherwise it is guesswork.
My example was over-simplified, but there is lots of crime data that could be analysed and debated rather than just people appealing to emotion.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:29, Reply)

it's not the data that justifies the values. it's the values that give relevance to the data.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:31, Reply)

as appealing to someone's emotions and not even trying to get statistics to back up your case?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:39, Reply)

only two people with some ideological common ground can have a meaningful discussion of statistics. If one person values freedom more than life, how can you sway them by saying that their policies would result in loss of life?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:43, Reply)

then it all becomes a matter of "faith" which is impossible and pointless to argue with as there is no language to do so.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion
edit: obviously you can argue logically without data, though it helps to have some data. However, you can't argue logically if it is "emotions all the way".
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:48, Reply)

that's about right.
Our values don't come from reasoning, they come from the society we wish to fit into.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:51, Reply)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Guns,_Less_Crime
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:26, Reply)

The amount of traffic fatalities in the US each year make gun deaths look insignificant. I suppose we could ban those as well.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:14, Reply)

Googling for it returns nothing, and his quote I did find "That there are such devices as firearms, as easy to operate as cigarette lighters and as cheap as toasters, capable at anybody's whim of killing Father or Fats [Waller] or Abraham Lincoln or John Lennon or Martin Luther King, Jr., or a woman pushing a baby carriage, should be proof enough for anybody that, to quote the old science fiction writer Kilgore Trout, "being alive is a crock of shit." hardly makes him sound pro-gun (different issue to whether he thinks some people should be allowed them and not others, though).
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:24, Reply)

in the UK there are about 3500 deaths on the road each year and nobody wants to ban driving. According to the book "Freakonomics" there are more accidental deaths from swimming pools than from firearms.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:29, Reply)

Gun control isnt about 'banning' guns. It's about making gun ownership safer.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:41, Reply)

Has there even been any confirmation that the killer's guns were held illegally?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:15, Reply)

Also Coxxy, how can you not see the abundance of guns (legal or not) leads to situations like this....again & again....? This doesn't happen over here.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:20, Reply)

We could say knives cause sliced bread and it would have the same problems.
Personally I believe that the cause of these problems are more complex: the violent hero culture held up by hollywood; a mainstream culture with very shallow and unfulfilling values; a media that focuses on easy to tell stories and lowest common denominator entertainment; a political system that leaves many feeling disengage with policy makers... I could go on. These things are perhaps the bigger problems, and they are harder to communicate and to solve, so we are drawn to the easy answer - Ban guns!
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:43, Reply)

North Hollywood 1997
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejD1Gml-ZGc
400 cops with hand guns against 2 robbers with assault rifles. So where does it end, Coccy? Permits to carry rocket launchers to overcome the baddies with the armor? Then I can apply for my missile silo when the baddies one up me again...
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:13, Reply)

Shootings in Israel were daily until they passed a law allowing people to carry automatic rifles. Guess what? The shootings stopped. Then the crazies started sending rockets. It is the crazy that is the problem.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:33, Reply)

i don't know the answer but i would expect that a bigger proportion of american crooks carry guns that british crooks. what do you think?
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 16:16, Reply)

( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 13:52, Reply)

That's actually a bit too twisted.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 13:59, Reply)

You have to love the human survival instinct!
clicky
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:42, Reply)

Oh, okay. Normal moral rules don't apply. I'd like to think if I were in that situation I'd go fucking mental as soon as they said that.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:43, Reply)

But she must have signed a release form for them to broadcast this?
That, is like, so fucked up on, like, so many levels.
$X00,000 for her AND SHE'S NOT EVEN PURE.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:30, Reply)

It's French, so why even try explaining it, marked NSFW due to the likelyhood that some workplaces contain people who have lead strangely sheltered lives.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 13:52, Reply)

I will of course now murder everyone within a 3 mile radius.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 14:39, Reply)

I'm glad to have learnt that the French use the term "Fap fap fap".
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:16, Reply)

a nice Dark Knight link before it gets blamed for turning kids violent and banned.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 13:31, Reply)

its great that these posters are still painted every few weeks. i still cannot understand how they do it.
( , Fri 20 Jul 2012, 15:58, Reply)
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