Tearaway from Media Molecule
suddenly makes the PS Vita a very desirable thing
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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:09,
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loving the art style
and gameplay looks pretty innovative as well... bummer that I a) can't afford a ps vita and b) don't have any spare time to play the sodding thing anyway
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wideeye slightly pickled, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:12,
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love everything they do..amazing ideas :)
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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:29,
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That looks really nice.
The Vita's still too damned expensive though.
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presferatu, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:37,
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Wish they would do PC stuff
I bought a PS3 for Little big planet but i'm not going to get yet another handheld that will gather dust.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:41,
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I have mixed feelings about this.
Media Molecule brilliant. This game brilliant. Vita shit.
Basically, the Vita has all these touch and tilt controls, and the touch screen on the back is a ridiculous gimick that left me thinking 'well, what the fuck is that for?'.
This game comes along and goes "THIS is what the Vita is for"....
But now the Vita is over. It has been done. Other games will just do the same ideas.
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Kung_Fu_Russ ran out of amusing signatures on, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:48,
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I wouldn't say the Vita is shit, just that game development on it is piss poor. Sony really should have pushed for a greater launch line up. Not all games have to use the gimmicky controls, as it actually has fully functional normal controls. MM seem like they might be using these extra options right, but until devs stop throwing them in their and using what makes the most sense (normally analogue sticks and buttons!) for their games not much good is going to come from it. Personally I'd like an FPS for it that doesn't do any bollocks like Resistance did and just use that back touch pad for L2 and R2.
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:39, Reply)
Looks cool,
but games that make you shout at or blow on your console (I've played a few NDS ones that do that) are embarrassing to play in public.
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Happosai _,,,,_(O ; o)_,,,, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:51,
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Update on the Progressive Insurance - who may be soulless cunts - story yesterday
Original story here: www.b3ta.com/links/Youre_just_money_in_the_bank
tl;dr version:
1) Insurance company for dead driver is accused of acting for her killer in order to avoid payout by dead driver's brother in a blog post. Social media goes mental (yesterday's link)
2) Insurance company puts out carefully worded statement saying they didn't act for the defendant
3) Court records (available online) show this is strictly true. They added themselves to the case as a "party defendant", but then argued for the accused, cross-examined prosecution witnesses, and gave a summing up speech proposing he be acquitted. So that's alright then.
This again raises the significant question of whether Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts or not.
**EDIT** When I looked yesterday evening, our thread from yesterday was the third highest result on Google for "soulless cunts". I feel this is quite an achievement.
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prince-igor si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:40,
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Progressive insurance are soulless cunts
this second story makes it very clear, had there been any doubt before that progressive insurance were cunts... now there can be no doubt that progressive insurance are cunts.
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:51, Reply)
I think your sentence in the 'message' box ^here^ strays from the point a little
Surely you forgot the word 'soulless' when saying that Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts?
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Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:01,
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Fray, play nicely...
We are a community of free thinking individuals, and while some may feel that Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts, others may merely feel that they are cunts, without necessarily being soulless. Merely repeating the words "Progressive Insurance" and "soulless cunts" in order to affect search engine results and the like would be very childish.
I'm personally going to refrain from any further mention of the assertion that Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts.
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prince-igor si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:03,
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I too will try to refrain from saying that Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts.
Even though it's clear that Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts.
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:08, Reply)
Apologies.
Any likeness between my previous comments and any statement saying that progressive insurance are soulless cunts is completeley unintentional. If progressive insurance are indeed soulless cunts, surely one of the soulless cunts at progressive insurance would have issued a press release saying something along the lines of "progressive insurance are soulless cunts". Apologies (a word which is a non-anagram of the phrase "progressive insurance are soulless cunts" by the way).
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Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:39,
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that's an outrageous suggestion. that Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts.
although if Progressive Insurance weren't soulless cunts people wouldn't feel the need. the need that is to say that Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts.
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tickle I was away, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:33,
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Whilst I might demur on Progressive Insurance being soulless cunts while still
respecting your rights to assert soulless cunts as a description of Progressive Insurance, it is the notion that progressive insurance being soulless cunts infers that progressive insurance are the only soulless cunts in the insurance game. I certainly can empathise with the position that "soulless cunts" and ""progressive insurance" are very much linked as mutually, but yet this does not preclude insurance services other than progressive insurance being soulless cunts. I agree that progressive are soulless cunts or progressive insurance are not the only soulless cunts ( in the first instance being a definitive statement that progressive insurance ARE soulless cunts and in the second instance that progressive insurance are definitively soulless cunts but not the only soulless cunts ) and it is fair to say that the statement "Progressive Insurance are Soulless Cunts" is a reasonable description of the soulless cunts that are progressive insurance and thus I hope to make it clear that Progressive Insurance = Soulless cunts +/- other soulless cunts that are not progressive insurance but the fixed figure of a = progressive insurance are soulless cunts and soulless cunts/progressive insurance where progressive insurance being soulless cunts is a constant
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unclepills Sixty 25th of Decembers, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:46,
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your very right, permit me to correct the aforementioned error...
for every progressive insurance are cunts, please add a soulless to that sentence..
therefore what i actually mean is progressive insurance are soulless cunts, the sentence should always read that way hence:
progressive insurance are +(soulless) cunts.
If (soulless) = 0 then the cunts are not progressive....
but +(soulless) then, yep progressive insurance are soulless cunts.
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:39, Reply)
le "progressive insurance" est le cunt de la soul
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wideeye slightly pickled, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:13,
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Well that makes it all OK then doesn't it.
They're not *technically* acting for the defense, but seem to be doing all of the actual work.
Yet again trying to wriggle out on a technicality. As for whether Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts; they give soulless cunts a bad name.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:15,
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Psychopathic is what it is, similar to US medical companies with their bending over backwards to
find ways to avoid paying out on those insured... grim case with a child with leukemia recently.
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:38, Reply)
but privatised health systems are the way forward
anything else is communism... i'm just going hunting with my AK47 and long clip, where i'm going to use my free speech to spout of something ignorant and uninformed USA USA....
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:40, Reply)
To be fair though,
they don't have that opera singer advertising them.
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Pig Bodine., Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:52,
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i think i'll still go compare progressive insurance to a bunch of soulless cunts :D
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tickle I was away, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:38,
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I chimed in yesterday saying that insurance companies were cunts
Upon reflection, I probably should have said that, in my opinion, Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts. My mistake for mixing up the concept of Insurance companies = cunts with the wider opinion, with which I wholeheartedly concur, that Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts.
I apologise
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:56, Reply)
I do not know any soulless cunts
I also do not know anyone who works for Progressive Insurance. There may or may not be a correllation between the lack of Progressive Insurance employees and soulless cunts in my life - this will require further investigation. Currently I can only say for sure that the ratio of soulless cunts to Progressive Insurance employees is 1:1
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A Rory Borealis here under duress, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:16,
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Did somebody say progressive insurance are soulless cunts?
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:13,
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I'm pretty sure no one said Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts.
I wasn't listening to be honest though, so someone may have indeed stated that Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts, but without hearing the exact phrase "Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts" I cannot really say whether it has been claimed by someone that Progressive Insurance are soulless cunts.
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:15,
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Tainted Goods
Roll up! Roll up! Get your soul eating demons from another dimension, here!
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:20, Reply)
mobius digital arty stuff
given the number of designers on this board, thought this might be of interest to some of you.
some videos of this guy working away on photoshop....
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:19, Reply)
Chris Addison interviewing Derren Brown
If shift-swap based insomnia has anything at all good about it, then it'd be in giving me the chance to explore the quieter corners of iPlayer and turning up little gems like this.
Thirty minutes or so on showmanship, faith, taxidermy and Hitler.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:52,
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Quality.
Really like Derren Brown's stuff. Chris Addison should get a better agent because he's way sharper than all the toss that he does (Mock The Week, those fucking awful insurance adverts etc).
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Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:56,
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Not sure if it's still available
but you might enjoy the previous episode then. That was Chris Addison being interviewed by fellow Thick Of It actor Rebecca Front.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:44,
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These things are usually available for longer
On the Friday night comedy podcast, rather than iPlayer: www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/fricomedy
You might have to trawl through a fair bit of bloody Now Show to find it.
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 20:40, Reply)
before I've watched over half of this
He's basically saying this is an instrument anyone can learn? The big plank of wood with the frets on it there have been my bigest problem on every instrument, I dont think involving a NEOGEO in it is going to aid that ;)
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Jorvic, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:53,
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Haha, what a salesman!
*cringe* Sounds pretty dreadful but with your own midi instrument it might be fun
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simbosan is too tired, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:59,
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What the shuddering fuck is that?
Why not get a guitar, it sounds better, is better to play, and isn't being sold by some strange horse fucker
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 7:51,
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That's pretty awful right there.
You'll at best make a bad sound and learn nothing about music.
I'm learning the piano and it's tricky in places but rewarding when I get past a block.
And if you want a shortcut just learn the blues scale of "C" on whatever instrument you choose.
Play any note you want so long as you cross to the next one in the scale either side of the one you just played.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexatonic_scale#Blues_scale
It's cod blues but sounds ok, and gives you a bit of confidence after you've been murdering a classic.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:26,
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give me an idea of that in a tab won't you?
your description is clashing with my learning disorders.
(i know the scale positions... and the scales... just the bit of Cod soloing you mentioned is off interest... I'm entirely self taught and a bit of a spastic when it comes to physical motor control (and impulse control)
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:42, Reply)
I don't do tabs but
www.guitaristsource.com/lessons/tabs/C-Blues-Scale-Tab.shtml
You can change direction whenever you like, and repeat the notes but don't not skip any notes.
i.e, if you're on Eb, you can play F or C, or repeat Eb again. But you can't jump to F#.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:59,
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Wow, just when you thought Mick Hucknall couldn't stoop any lower.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:32,
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That was bobbins.
Wasn't that the sort of guitar that the lead guy in Pendulum (RIP) used to play? I can't be arsed to Google it...
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Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:19,
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i dont think
that i will be trading in my old fashioned stringed instruments any time soon....
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:14, Reply)
Genuinely amusing Irish Olympic commentary
Fake as fuck, but funny.
GC? I haven't got a clue.
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waz4444 Escorts, bescorts - Come in if you're saucy., Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:37,
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GC I'm afraid... Come close to my bosom I shall hold you tight
Those that attempt to ridicule this man, eat my palm...
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Jorvic, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:47,
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I'm scared. What shall become of me?
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waz4444 Escorts, bescorts - Come in if you're saucy., Wed 15 Aug 2012, 4:25,
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Scrunt will decide your fate
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 7:52,
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Not the usual fare for here, but a moment's notice would be appreciated...
A stupid law is about to be passed, meaning that late bars in Galway city shall be closing an hour earlier from Sunday to Thursday. This means less money for pubs, which means less money for staff, which means less staff... Not to mention the similarly adverse affect it shall have on other local businesses.
I'm Irish, and have as such become used to myopic fucknuggets running things into the ground. However, this law seems pointless in the extreme, with not a single positive to be gleaned from its implementation. Yes, har har, "Irish man complains about less boozing time", and so on... But people in an already beleaguered sector WILL lose jobs because of these changes. And surely people are finding it hard enough to keep jobs as it is.
So sorry for soapboxing, but this really pisses me off. Click, sign and share if you'd like!
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:45, Reply)
signed... don't expect i help much though.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:51,
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:)
YaVW though they may catch on that Ft. Lauderdale is not in Ireland.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:08,
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What hours do "late bars" open until? well it being the 2:00 am? (it said p.m.) being reduced to 1: a.m. (again it said p.m.) Is there any extra proliferation in crime?
Not being disagreeble, its just that normal pubs shut between 11-12 mostly, late bars insinuates that you mean you would like them open later, depending on bars being open later than that, depends on when you work I guess, or possibly how prepared you are if you want a drink when you finish. Not dissing you, or your argument about jobs. Just want to know the pros and cons, also 1 am seems like quite a reasonable shut off, I can imagine with such a small amount of custom on a weekday after 12 they might lose money from licensing, insurance, police, security, staff, electric and maintenance costs. Not being animonius, but really? Please give me the pros and cons.
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:08,
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Interesting comments too, it seems there is already a law in place, not that I'm a stickler for the law..
Still some interesting comment.
Wiola Wioleta · NUI,Galway
It is incredible how much students can drink on nights out and of course the business will suffer a little if the places get closed earlier! But I believe the galway super intendants decision was primarily based on safety of galway people at night, the later the places are opened the more ridiculously drunk people there are late at nights out on the streets. I don't find it amusing to see so many young people absolutely wasted messing around and personally I approve super intendants decision, since people in galway drink so much I doubt the losses will be that big anyways... -.-
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Colm MacEoin · Inverin
But surely if that becomes the new closing time people will simply start drinking an hour earlier and treat it the same way? Pubs and clubs being closed an hour early doesn't mean people will get less drunk it'll mean they'll be just as drunk but an hour earlier. Personally I think the later the better at least that will mean there are less people out for them to interact with.
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Brendan Quinn · Institute of Technology, Tralee
The Gardai have turned a blind eye to this particular law which has been around for years, so why enforce it now?
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Dave Kilgarriff · National University of Ireland, Galway
New superintendent in town. It's a woman...
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Daniel Hartnett · Subscribe · National University of Ireland, Galway
Signed
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Aodhan Kelly · IT Carlow
In the last while Galway has received a lot of bad press most notably the Rag Week's for the colleges.
Is it not a little suspicious that this order goes in mere weeks before the start of a new term for the colleges.
The idea that you would rather have people in bed a hour earlier than arrest and teach overly drunk people(students or Otherwise).That a jail cell is indeed cold, is absolutely laughable.
Make some arrests do your job's gardai and let those of us who drink and behave responsibly have our pints in peace before they tax that to death as well.
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David Walsh · NUIG
Edit the Petition, 1am to 2am it should read, not PM..(As Eoin stated below).
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Edward Mc Dermott · Works at European Federation of Psychology Students' Associations (EFPSA)
Where can I find an article about this?
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Edward Mc Dermott · Works at European Federation of Psychology Students' Associations (EFPSA)
From reading this article it sounds like they are enforcing the law that is already in place. Most nightclubs will have had their license extended to serve until 1am - so they are not closing at 1 just stopping serving. Your petition is slightly misleading. I believe that opening hours should be extended to match those on the continent, but in this case it is just the gardai doing their job. www.galwaynews.ie/27251-garda%C3%AD-call-time-city-bars’-late-night-drinks
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Adrian Adrohan Hanley · Subscribe · Works at Dj - Producer and Remixer
Why are they only enforcing it now though? Why is it not implemented across the country!? I don't think the petition is misleading!? It's simply a petition against the early closing of pubs and clubs.
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Edward Mc Dermott · Works at European Federation of Psychology Students' Associations (EFPSA)
But it is not the Gardai that is the problem really. If you are petitioning to change the law then yes that's great, but I am seeing this as a petition against the Gardai just enforcing that law.
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Brendan Quinn · Institute of Technology, Tralee
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:26,
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You're not being disagreeable at all! Perfectly valid points.
And yes, I noticed the pm/am mix up myself... The suggested law will cover all late bars and night clubs in the city from Sunday to Thursday. A "late bar" is a bar that serves until 2am, and essentially operates as an alternative to those who do not wish to frequent your traditional night club. A group of which I am a member, as are many others :)
Your assumption that these days would present the pubs and clubs with a "small amount of custom" is one that could be shared by a lot of people. However, it is not the case. Galway is a city that depends hugely on its tourism and entertainment income... For example, each July there are three festivals running in the city. They bring enormous amounts of people to the city, and they bring money to the bars. Cut out one hour of this steady income out of all tills across the city and that amounts to a LOT of money lost. However, it's not just in July.
Galway is a student city. It is home to three third level institutions and from September to May a sizeable percentage of the city's population is comprised of students. And when do students go out? During the week... Thursday night often being the busiest night of the week, the dedicated student night. Again, one hour cut out of every night's income is a lot of money needlessly lost.
As for any proliferation in crime? In a word, no. Galway is a very safe place to go out in, and anybody suggesting cutting the hour is in the interests of safety would be guilty of hype and fear mongering. And as for the extra costs you mentioned - licensing, insurance, security, staff, electric and maintenance - on a busy night the extra hour's business would cover the extra hour's costs. Obviously, on a slow night, costs may not be covered... But at least leave it to the discretion of the premises owner to close if he or she feels it financially sensible. Don't enforce closure with some draconian nonsense!
Hope that cleared some things up for ya :)
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:34, Reply)
OK, thank you, I do know of certain urbanised areas that do suffer as a result of late night weekday drinking. I do however no little about Galway.
If indeed it's premises have a massive reliance on the tourist, student and entertainment industry it is a given that some jobs will rely upon it. Having lived in major cities, I know that you can always find somewhere for a drink, otherwise you keep some in. I'm not going to sign the petition, but I am not against it. Sorry i'm being a fucking prick and sitting on the fence. I do however find your previous comment alot more convincing than the petitions manifesto, stick it up there. I am probably being a hippocrite here, and coming across as such, but fuck it, I don't have any qualms about what you are doing, can't ratify it in my conciensce though. Good luck.
*KNOW,
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:05,
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Signed
This is ridiculous given the nature of the economy. Although, I find no appropriate time for such a law to be enacted. It certainly does hurt local businesses whether times are good or bad.
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blackhat was thrown from a fucking horse on, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:37,
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Again, thanking you!
Any pros to the implementation of this are vastly outnumbered by the cons... One would wonder if it's all an attempt to use the 'scary drunken youth' as a political football? Would any political aspirant do such a thing?
Never. Not in this country.
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:46, Reply)
Agreed with the sarcasm, and the scary drunken youth comment.
If you take the greater population into account mind you, it might just be worth delving into some stats, I understand that Galway is beneath precident, you might find some very different situations occuring in other places though. Glasgow for example.
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:12,
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Granted
Which is why I was speaking exclusively about Galway... Flexibility in legislation would be a fine thing though, eh?
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Which only exists in very specific circumstances, and yes localisation as far as legislation wouldn't be a bad thing in someways,
However, with out that truly in place it sets massive precedents to what people abide to outside that jurisdiction.
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:20,
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I find your argument simplistic
by that logic, 24 hour bars would make the most money, but in reality there a plenty of other factors in whether a bar makes profit rather than it being a simple multiple of it's open hours. Surely they don't put on an extra person for one more hour, so I doubt it will have any affect on jobs.
There are other costs to consider, both actual and social. Police have to be on late shift an hour later, residents are kept awake an hour later by returning drunks, people who drink steadily will be an hour more drunk.
Your appeal to the economy shows a fairly shallow understanding of the issue, and I'm sure when the law was proposed, there were reasons given for it's implementation that may well be valid ones if you made some simple investigations before signing petitions. Or not valid ones, but at least your objections will be informed ones
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:08,
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Thanks C M , this is nearly the point I am trying to make, I remain impartial,
until I see some evidence to support these concerns, either way. In some areas I would be totally anti, for me it depends on a literal social situation, and statistics adding up to the pro, yes I know most stats are iffy, but decently backed up they help.
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:17,
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Not to appear needlessly argumentative, but
your extension of my point is quite simplistic in itself.
"Surely they don't put on an extra person for one more hour, so I doubt it will have any affect on jobs."
No. In a moderately busy bar or club that has, let's say, just two bars on its premises. Now, let's say in that last hour, each individual bar sells just one single drink at about €5 every 10 minutes - unlikely coming up to closing time, but hey, I'm being cautious - that's €60 across the premises gone, give or take... That's a part time staff member's pay for the night. Gone. Even with a very conservative scenario forecast.
"Police have to be on shift an hour later"
Police here work night shifts, and are therefore working anyway. So no costs saved there either.
I'll concede that there are extra social factors that are to be considered, and of course, residential areas must be put at the forefront of such considerations. However, my point was made exclusively in terms of the economics of the situation, however 'shallow' it made my understanding of certain social complexities appear. And my point was also made exclusively in terms of Galway city.
I know this city. It is very dependent on its bar trade and its reputation as a 'good place to go out'. As multinational employers cut jobs here left, right and centre... We should be protecting the ones we have control of, not endangering them. And shallow though they may be, the simple mathematics of my scenario above can't really be argued with. I know that too because I worked in bars for years, and saw people lose their jobs over losses of similar amounts.
They are simple, undoubtedly, but my objections are informed. I'm talking about people potentially losing their jobs... Not writing a sociology essay.
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:44, Reply)
And if you disagree, cool :)
Because that's my other bugbear of this whole thing. The lack of discourse. People involved weren't asked. It was just decided.
Again, a possibly simplistic outlook when discussing politics and law. However, I choose to cling to any naivety I have left in me when engaged in such discussion :)
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:05, Reply)
When the pubs in our town were allowed to open later they didn't hire extra staff
I doubt closing an hour early will mean they need to sack someone, there will still be the closing time rush on the bar. Pub may make less money but it won't be that much less, they will pay an hours less wages, power, etc.
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Peej, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 7:58,
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hi rev,
it is the cascade of assumptions that I find simplistic. open more hours = more money which equals more jobs and will be better for the economy and is therefore good for ireland. each one of these assumptions could be contested.
to give you an example, let's assume you're right about the first point, and pubs make a lot more money as people binge in the final hour:
where does this money come from? it comes from students and locals and tourists, and is concentrated in hands of the pub owner who makes additional profit. Do these consumers have endless money to extract, or would they have spread this money more evenly around the local economy if they didn't spend it at the pub? How likely is it that the cafe owner will see them buying a coffee in the morning if they spent a pile of money at 2am. Will they still be able to afford that trip to the Aran islands at the end of the week, or buy that hand knit jumper. How vulnerable are the pub business in Galway and the multinational breweries compared to all the other business where the money might elsewhere have been spent and the makers of tat that supply them?
In Australia, a phenomenon called the Pokies effect has been studied. When poker machines (fruit machines) were legalised for pubs, the pubs heavily invested in them, buying 100 or more for each pub. They made big profits for the pubs, and the govenrment got good tax revenue from each pub. However what people found was that many people were spending all their spendable income in one place, and this was killing the local businesses of the town. The overall effect was reduced tax for the government and less jobs from those towns that had a pub with pokies. I'm not suggesting that the change in galway trading hours will have such a drastic effect, but I repeat that such assumptions of "good for the economy" are incredibly simplistic.
I would suggest that you are being dishonest. You want to drink later and resent being unable to, but don't feel this is a persuasive argument so you pretend instead to be concerned with the irish economy, a general source of anxiety for many people and an argument which you think will have greater weight, by creating a loose but unsubstantiated chain of assumptions whereby the opening hours of galway pubs are connected to the fortunes of Ireland.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:08,
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You make a few valid points...
And perhaps I should have been more specific when I mentioned other local businesses. Sorry, it was late :) I was speaking about businesses such as taxi cab firms (most of which are in trouble due to an explosion in taxi licenses around the city when the legislation in this area was changed), local fast food places that open late, late night cafes... Businesses that have a clear, vested interest in the pub trade. An hour less for pubs is an hour less for them. Basic arithmetic that could cause them problems financially. Granted, it's possible that it may not, but I'm saying why risk it?
I have no issue with you contesting my assumptions. If anything, I welcome it. I don't claim to be an expert on the economy. I was only speaking specifically about Galway and jobs in the bar trade. (Yes, I opened it up with mentions of Irishness and "myopic fucknuggets", but that was an attempt at angry humour. You may not have bitten, but hey, I'm not that funny.)
I have been speaking to friends of mine who work in the bar trade; bar staff, bar managers, DJs and security staff, and they are all genuinely worried about what this could mean to their livelihood... And their voices should be listened to. Hence, why I put up the link to the petition.
What I do take issue with is you calling me dishonest... That I "pretend" to be concerned about the economy because I just want to drink later. Patronising at best, insulting at worst. I am concerned about the economy. Very concerned. Many friends and family members have been directly affected by the recession... Money and jobs lost, lives altered. I've lost substantial hours in my job myself. Less money for bills, food, rent... You know, when I've not blown it all in anxious pursuit of a pint of that sweet 2am nectar.
Many Irish people feel a sense of desperation due to the financial mire this country finds itself in. There is a helplessness that permeates deep, and it will take years to fade. With this enforcement of different closing times, I saw friends - and strangers - become genuinely concerned about their jobs. More recruits to a hemorrhaging group, city and country wide. With this petition, I saw a chance to help out, in however minuscule a way.
You may not agree. And that's totally fine. I actually enjoy discussions like these. They should be a vital cog in how society works, but very often are not... At the same time though, show some respect in said discussions, and please don't label me "dishonest".
And as for "assumptions" go, how do you even know I drink?
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:17, Reply)
I assume the idea of this law is to keep people fit for work in the morning 1am doesn't sound too bad.
I thought Merkel had limited you guys to a dry sherry at christmas anyway?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:39,
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Yup,
she's sending us over three straws per sherry too... Lovely lady.
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:18, Reply)
FABIO.
Think Conan the Barbarian, only with a thousand times the sexual potency and an even poorer grasp of the english language...
Here is his album. Prepare your mind...
www.i-mockery.com/bad-albums/fabio/
^^
(, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:44, Reply)
You mean this guy?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=twqMYABS_Pg
Wonderful.
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Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:23,
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Green Fields of France
I made this!
Got bored again tonight so sang another song.
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SiX and his hat, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:08,
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click..
you have a lovely voice.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:52,
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There's a load on tits this evening...
/I'll show myself out, cheers.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:31,
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Intense psychological thriller
I can't imagine how he feels...
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:44,
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She's got a good stare...
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Extinct Jesus Dossier "...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...", Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:57,
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She's in Newsroom
the new HBO thing, her character is ace!
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:27,
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This is the top link???
How depressing
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unclepills Sixty 25th of Decembers, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:39,
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"Give me back the tits!"
Surely that's the best line in movie history. Right after "your mother ate my dog. Not all of it."
(, Fri 17 Aug 2012, 22:24, Reply)
Ahhhh reminds me of this song by Gravy Train:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SkOtE0lkyw
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lucifer101, Sat 18 Aug 2012, 14:19,
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Guy goes into the Wilderness to see if he can survive.
Virtually no equipment and no way of calling for help. Do some people need fame so badly? It's many parts but worth watching.
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JamTallons, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:52,
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that is good to hear...
but the guy in this vid won't survive three days
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:43,
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:45,
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nah that guy
can survive three weeks on his own reserves.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:17,
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Do you mean the sandwiches in his folds?
If so, I agree.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:35,
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yes Coxxy, at the very least a candy bar or two tucked in there somewhere...
and also easily a snub nosed .38 under his left tit without any need for a permit or a holster.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:00,
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The whole thing is up on youtube
If its all true, then fair play. Very interesting. Stupid but good to watch none the less.
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:50,
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he annoys me, but maybe i will give it a watch
just to see if he made it out of the garage. Golden Corrals can be terrifying.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:07,
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I saw that before, seriously makes my head spin thinking about it:
"Rocks!?! Yeah, just rocks, erm, wait a minute, those rocks are ON MARS!!! Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.........!!!!!".
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:14,
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^This, can't wait until they introduce some colour.
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:16,
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first one to spot water wins a biscuit
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Cocodaye Miasere likes chips and peas, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:22,
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I just sneezed on my screen, does that count?
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:24,
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It better not be soggy
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:39,
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That right in front of it looks like a desert wash.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:27,
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Is that slang for 'Happy Ending' in Arizona? If so, i'm seriously confused.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:28,
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I'll inform my psychiatrist of this misunderstanding, thank you.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:33,
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Your psychiatrist should never touch you in the swimsuit area!
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:37,
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But i though that was part of the thera....oh fuck.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:42,
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Brilliant
unzips and waits for three tits woman
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The Scrunt Wants a Dozen Pints, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:09,
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Spot the camera
Simple question - you can look straight down at the rover, straight up, and 360 degrees around.
And nowhere can you see what the camera is held up by.
Explanation needed for my mind has exploded.
Edit: It's clearly visible in the shadow, just... not there in the pictures.
(, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:27, Reply)
Michael Andrews - Bubbles In Space.
Not really a fan of the track but the video is really nice, more so if you watch the 'making of' video here (watch the making of video):
vimeo.com/45943083
Really nice thing to do, those kids must have felt brilliant about themselves when they saw what they'd helped make.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:04,
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Coo ur gosh.
That is indeed quite lovely.
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Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:38,
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TV Sheriff HD
My good pal Davy Force just started making TV Sheriff videos again. They used to be a live video remix band riffing on American TV commercials with live midi triggering of video samples. Opened up for Beck & Devo. Really cool live show.
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smearballs double bag it!, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:04,
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Maddie The Coonhound - A Super Serious Project About Dogs And Physics.
Been posted before but it's now come to an end and there are some new ones. Some of them are brilliant, such a totally chilled out dog.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 19:25,
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Accused Walmart Groper, 18, Told Cops He Was Powerless Against An Enticing "Booty"
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 18:59,
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Let us all join hands and admire the beauty that is before our eyes.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 19:07,
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Mark Everett
lyric sheet there I think. (before he splutters out)
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Studebaker Hawk Touch me, I'm thick, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:50,
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Hey Skelty, happy candle day.
I hope the missus made cake and is inviting the friends over.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 19:16,
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No cake, but just had a lovely chilli washed down with a jug of Pimms!
Cheers you!
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Tue 14 Aug 2012, 20:53,
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two /links today from Broward county?
*sigh* i feel like i am reading my local paper. :S
but at least he was honest in his statement to the police.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 20:28,
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I can't help but think that your proximity has something to do with it.
Like a high tension wire, or nuclear plant...
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 20:30,
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Wait a minute, i thought The Scrunt was in Ireland?
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 20:35,
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ya know, come to think of it ...
i have not heard from him today....
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:09,
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I have....
Well, this is awkward.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:22,
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I saw a Heron before.
/shit.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:35,
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hahahaha!
like moths to a lightbulb.
all of the nuts roll down to Florida.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 20:36,
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What do you expect from a state that's shaped like a hanging schlong?
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:25,
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You could say the same for Sweden and Norway.
No one wierd eve.....
Oh yeah...
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:27,
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It's the fantastic Adobe Warp Stabilizer!
Now you don't need a tripod anymore or camera skills! Yay!
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JamTallons, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 17:24,
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What a little shit, she should swipe the fucker off the table with a hockey stick.
Cunt.
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Tue 14 Aug 2012, 17:25,
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That's the cat's way
of telling you to stop wasting your money on herbal pills and bottled water.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 17:26,
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a reasonable reaction...
stop dumping your shit next to me bitch tits... now get your knickers on and fetch me some fucking tuna !
(, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 17:36, Reply)
That cat is a cunt.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 19:18,
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Not quite sure how I came across this
Possibly ripe for some creative reviews though...
(, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 17:06, Reply)
tuum nomen est Mark Walker et petere mea V Sestertius
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 17:10,
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peto, surely?
sestertii, too.
Also, you speak Latin with Yoda-like syntax.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 17:15,
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No...
certissime non carissimo conservo, i dubitare verus marcam walker esset hortari B3tans ut stipes reviews an uti google verterim ad eius latinam ...
(, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 17:35, Reply)
I'll get your coat for you.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:16,
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Has anyone seen my coat?
It was here a minute ago...
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:23,
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Quick LOOK AT THAT INTERESTING THING OVER THERE >
*runs*
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:25,
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What.... what is it? I can't see anything.....
Oh. Fucknuts
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:37,
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On second thoughts, you can have it back....
it smells funny.
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:42,
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Skeltinator is sit in his garden, and in the bed at the table.?
sat in his garden, asleep at the table?
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:19,
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You're sleeping in the garden, and laying upon a bed
Latin's a piece of piss sometimes
Sedet, as in our word 'sedate', so sitting
Horto, as in our word 'horticulture', so garden
recumbit, as in our word 'recumbent', so reclining or laying down
I guess 'in lecto' is tough as we don't really have an English common word equivalent that I know of, except 'lair', but that is quite a corruption in both meaning and spelling. In Italian, French and Spanish they use letto, lit and lecho respectively for bed, so you can kind of see the thought process when people say that learning Latin makes you accidentally learn like four other languages.
(, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:54, Reply)
Wow, I know it has alot of similarities to a few languages. Lecto is was thinking lectern.
Thanks for the explanation.
* I was thinking.
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:57,
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Old link is old
NSFW
It's an old one, but it's a good un... japanese weirdness once again. NSFW for... well... odd things.
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wideeye slightly pickled, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 16:23,
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talking of old links
i was reminded of this video the other day:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ1D0A3Ns30
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mutated monty, Tue 14 Aug 2012, 16:35,
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